It's funny, I don't think they changed it's damage all that much over the patches, but in a single patch that changed it's FP usage from 9 to 3, msking people go from "ehhhh it's ok, kinda niche but you could run it sometimes" to "holy shit if you're a FTH build and are not running it you're playing the gane wrong"
If having faith was easy then everybody would blindly do it without understanding why they have faith. This holy build is for those who can go through with it for better and for worse to show who really has faith.
I sorta understand what you’re trying to say but IMO a lot of people just pick a build early game and stick to it regardless. Like idk how good a faith build is personally because I never sunk enough points in to find out how much damage it does.
@@monhi64 Its pretty bad. I beat the tree sentinel at the start of the game so just kept using the golden halberd for the whole run (so a STR + FAI build). Only found out much later that the holy damage part did almost nothing when I watched youtube videos and so on, and even with me investing mostly into strength I saw how much more damage other builds (like bleed) got (and remember the golden halberd has built in golden vow)
Same experience here as @phenix2403 with the golden halberd. The difference for me is that I switched to the Godslayer Greatsword and instantly had a better time as it deals fire damage and has a great AoW. I also never used a faith spell again except for elden stars, like, once.
Beat everything except Radabeast, he did Radagon but not Elden Beast since it was impossible including 10 starlight shards… (I was a viewer for all that challenge run hehe (Tyler Ninja Blevins is the goat))
I get the feeling Miyazaki coded holy into so many things yet made so few things weak to it not just for the story but because the idea behind the dlc resulted in the dlc being thrashed by it
Hey you know Litany of Proper Death can at the very least one-shot Deathbirds in NG+7 with the right set-up! Other than that it's pretty worthless even against Catacombs. I always just use the Golden Epitaph...
It's honestly sad because golden order incantations are some of the coolest looking incants in the game, but almost all of them are virtually unplayable
>drink this >golden vow >howl of shabriri >switch to sacred talisman >2h the shield >use the jellyfish ash of war >drink a blue >one hand the seal >get a discus >deal the same damage of a +3 Claymore
Golden order greatsword truly shines against enemies that can be flinched like misbegotten and omen. You flinch them with the initial blast and the follow up knocks them to the ground.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing tbh like it deffo makes the run harder but I'm sure it was significantly more boring to play and it's not particularly interesting to watch because that would suck with most damage types, there's so many bad weapons
I did all of NG+ with discus of light and triple rings. Yes many bosses are resistant to holy, but only like 20-40% more than the other affinities. It is only a few bosses (and mobs like certain giants) that are extremely resistant to it to the point where you want to use something else. The vast majority of the game dies just fine to holy damage and in many cases is actually weak to it.
@@cesarbernardi1646 Sacred Blade is actually a fantastic ash of war for a large portion of the early game. It does suffer at higher levels, but it's fantastic at lower levels.
Not using his ability was getting me stressed. Unlockable blade does HUGE poise damage for a fist weapon. Abuse the poise breaks and cast discus of light.
45:35(waterfowl spam), yeah I did a character that uses only gold lightning spells and used just spear lightning for Malenia cuz it casts the fastest. Since it was my first ever ranged attack build (I always use melee) imagine my shock to see her throw out a waterfowl dance almost always after each attack. Was easy to dodge cuz of the range but it dragged the fight (phase 1) for so much longer than it shudve. I also noticed all bosses fight different wen u use ranged builds. Like Morgott kept spamming dat jump and stab down with crossed spear and sword attack.
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@@haku8135 no The Black Blade incantation, the Destined Death and Blade of Death skills all deal Holy Damage but they also have the effect that deals damage over time based on max HP and the max HP reduction The goal of the video was beating the game with only Holy Damage
@@kubomagico8853 That's still holy damage. The damage being dealt is being dealt by holy damage. Calculating the damage differently doesn't make it not holy damage. If you actually wanted to cherry pick the run you'd point out how he hit Loretta with a spear. Only the spears from the ground in that AOW are pure holy damage, the spear itself hitting deals physical damage.
I think the balance is the absolute obscenity of how much Holy does to undead, so it has to be trash everywhere else. Tibia Mariners and Death Rite Birds don't stand a chance. And yeah, Malenia spams Waterfowl Dance more often if you're staying at range and using projectiles.
litany of proper death seems to have some weird hidden property where it's not only pure holy damage, but its also specifically only effective against "those who live in death" or whatever like others say, its absolutely insane against revenants, deathbirds, skellies, and the various other undead mobs around the lands between, but literally nothing else for me personally, i love the spell. fits really well with the cleric/white mage type of roleplay to me, which i always gravitate to RPGs. in final fantasy 1 dia/diara/diaga does amazing damage but only to undead enemies and doesnt affect the living at all, i just treat it like that. i always keep it slotted
Honestly I don’t mind that holy damage isn’t that good for pve because faith builds in general are super overpowered, especially when you’re pairing it with another stat like str, dex, arc, or even int
Holy damage isn’t the weakest damage type. People only say it’s weak cause some endgame bosses are resistant to it. I’d go far to say the only bosses weak to holy are main bosses but most things die quick to holy damage
Very entertaining, you aught to try stars and bubbles against really large hitbox targets, when you get full value they do a ton of damage excusing the long cast time. Better for co-op or summon tanking
I'm on my first playthrough and just killed Morgott with my holy-imbued godskin stitcher and my discus of light because I think the idea of holy damage is cool, I had no idea it was shit 😭😭
ehhh, it’s not an issue because there are holy weapons and incants that can deal like any damage type, i mean holy damage specifically yeah it falls off a little late game but it isn’t unbearable for anyone but elden beast
the ash of war sacred ring of light, miquella's ring of light, golden land, sacred phalanx have a swing animation which hitbox deal the split holy/physical damage that you hit with, doesnt really invalidate the run but wanna see if you are so cracked up enough to re do it out of fussiness.
I just played Elden ring for the first time recently and was enjoying holy incants alongside melee and Litany of Proper Death was a MAJOR letdown. Insanely low damage and that slow casting...it should be buffed.
@@swag8724 if you want to keep using holy and want something that will make you feel better about the low damage from litany check out my most recent holy damage video
I don't think you understand how to use Elden Stars. It explodes at the end, which is where all the damage comes from, but you can't recast it while it's doing its thing or it will replace itself.
@@firestargaming9521it doesn't really matter. He still beat literally everything else with pure holy damage, and I doubt that little bit of physical damage made any difference in the outcome of the fight, let alone the run
It's a pet peeve of mine to know people dont believe that holy dmg can be good, my favorite build is a fundamentalist build i've made, the discus of light shreds enemies hp and only costs 3 fp and has great range, litany of proper death shreds deathbirds hp very quick, to me it felt easy mode ...right untill radagon where I had to let go of the spells and use my magic erdtree knife 😂😂😂
I can’t follow what those buffs are for the life of me. Why tf is surprised when basically glitched the game buffing with the shield twice. Like how tf do you even
Fun Fact: Discus of Light is unironically the most FP efficient spell in the entire game.
It's funny, I don't think they changed it's damage all that much over the patches, but in a single patch that changed it's FP usage from 9 to 3, msking people go from "ehhhh it's ok, kinda niche but you could run it sometimes" to "holy shit if you're a FTH build and are not running it you're playing the gane wrong"
It was also a total waste to use it on the first required boss.
@@ZacUAXWell it seems like he didn't know how awful the t-pose spell is.
@@Monkeylighthouse idk I at least like that it at least instantly kills skeletons if your scaling is high enough
@@lmaonoyou465 so do holy water pots and those only require a tarnished sunflower and a mushroom and dont take up a spell slot
If having faith was easy then everybody would blindly do it without understanding why they have faith. This holy build is for those who can go through with it for better and for worse to show who really has faith.
I sorta understand what you’re trying to say but IMO a lot of people just pick a build early game and stick to it regardless. Like idk how good a faith build is personally because I never sunk enough points in to find out how much damage it does.
@@monhi64 Its pretty bad. I beat the tree sentinel at the start of the game so just kept using the golden halberd for the whole run (so a STR + FAI build). Only found out much later that the holy damage part did almost nothing when I watched youtube videos and so on, and even with me investing mostly into strength I saw how much more damage other builds (like bleed) got (and remember the golden halberd has built in golden vow)
@@monhi64 Its pretty good and offer a lot of versatility in its spells and a fuckton of weapon for STR + FAI or STR + DEX
Same experience here as @phenix2403 with the golden halberd. The difference for me is that I switched to the Godslayer Greatsword and instantly had a better time as it deals fire damage and has a great AoW. I also never used a faith spell again except for elden stars, like, once.
I've been using a str/fth build since ds1 and I'll be damned if I'll stop now
Skumnut beat the entire game using Litany of Proper Death only, so yeah, you technically can kill stuff with it
That poor guy lol that sounds miserable haha
@@bryceinator13 he just cant stop climbing
How do you even do that? If you use it on the elden beast, it probably heals him
Beat everything except Radabeast, he did Radagon but not Elden Beast since it was impossible including 10 starlight shards… (I was a viewer for all that challenge run hehe (Tyler Ninja Blevins is the goat))
@@VeilSideZ32 Maybe with the new fp regen talisman in the dlc, it'll be possible
I get the feeling Miyazaki coded holy into so many things yet made so few things weak to it not just for the story but because the idea behind the dlc resulted in the dlc being thrashed by it
Hey you know Litany of Proper Death can at the very least one-shot Deathbirds in NG+7 with the right set-up! Other than that it's pretty worthless even against Catacombs. I always just use the Golden Epitaph...
Yeah that spell is a deathbirds worst nightmare but definitely quite one dimensional lol
Litany’s real purpose is killing mariners skeletons and death rite birds
It's honestly sad because golden order incantations are some of the coolest looking incants in the game, but almost all of them are virtually unplayable
Have even tried discus and triple rings?
@@yunuss58
They did say “almost all”.
@@systmerr9445 true, I only took the offensive ones into consideration.
@@yunuss58 All three offensive ones are good plus a strong weapon buff. I don't know what's not to like.
>drink this
>golden vow
>howl of shabriri
>switch to sacred talisman
>2h the shield
>use the jellyfish ash of war
>drink a blue
>one hand the seal
>get a discus
>deal the same damage of a +3 Claymore
Golden order greatsword truly shines against enemies that can be flinched like misbegotten and omen. You flinch them with the initial blast and the follow up knocks them to the ground.
I wish you didn't limit yourself to one thing per boss, it seems very boring.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing tbh like it deffo makes the run harder but I'm sure it was significantly more boring to play and it's not particularly interesting to watch because that would suck with most damage types, there's so many bad weapons
Destined death for malekith is kinda crazy
This guy deserves way more credit, great quality content, fun to watch
I appreciate that bro and thanks for watching!
I did all of NG+ with discus of light and triple rings. Yes many bosses are resistant to holy, but only like 20-40% more than the other affinities. It is only a few bosses (and mobs like certain giants) that are extremely resistant to it to the point where you want to use something else. The vast majority of the game dies just fine to holy damage and in many cases is actually weak to it.
I'm surprised you didn't use the basic Sacred Blade ash of war, since the beam it throws is pure holy damage also.
he uses some physical anyway so idk y not anything else
Just looked it up. Honestly missed it in my research or I definitely would have used it!
@@cesarbernardi1646 Sacred Blade is actually a fantastic ash of war for a large portion of the early game. It does suffer at higher levels, but it's fantastic at lower levels.
Me actually using the cypher patas my whole playthrough as my main weapon :/
To be fair it's a cool looking weapon! And 0 weight so its also very convenient in that regard. One of my favorite weapons appearance wise for sure
Not using his ability was getting me stressed. Unlockable blade does HUGE poise damage for a fist weapon. Abuse the poise breaks and cast discus of light.
45:35(waterfowl spam), yeah I did a character that uses only gold lightning spells and used just spear lightning for Malenia cuz it casts the fastest. Since it was my first ever ranged attack build (I always use melee) imagine my shock to see her throw out a waterfowl dance almost always after each attack. Was easy to dodge cuz of the range but it dragged the fight (phase 1) for so much longer than it shudve. I also noticed all bosses fight different wen u use ranged builds. Like Morgott kept spamming dat jump and stab down with crossed spear and sword attack.
the montages are always hilarious. great video as always
Love cipher pata, it’s ash of war is really nice vs invaders/npc enemies
I get so excited every time I see an upload from you and you just know you got a good 30-60 minutes of great entertainment! Much love from Sweden and keep it up!
Thanks for the kind words and I’m glad that you enjoy the content! Much love to you as well
The DLC really needs to bring some super powerful holy incantations.
I did a faith build all the way through with a sacred blade longsword. You will notice a lack of damage against Maliketh, but you won’t struggle.
For a run idea maybe do a run where you beat the game without attacking, like fires deadly sin or other things
DO NOT DO THIS
One word: ZIP
Bro you are so underrated I just watched three of your videos in a row I love how long your videos are but they don’t feel dragged out and boring
Happy to hear that you enjoy the channel and I appreciate the love!
I've been in love with Faith build since Dark souls and very great video! you earned my sub
Technicly destined death isn't holy damage but it would be HELL without it for Elden Beast
Destined Death IS holy damage. It has an extra damage over time effect and hp reduction effect attached to it, but it is dealing holy damage.
@@haku8135 no
The Black Blade incantation, the Destined Death and Blade of Death skills all deal Holy Damage but they also have the effect that deals damage over time based on max HP and the max HP reduction
The goal of the video was beating the game with only Holy Damage
@@kubomagico8853 That's still holy damage.
The damage being dealt is being dealt by holy damage. Calculating the damage differently doesn't make it not holy damage.
If you actually wanted to cherry pick the run you'd point out how he hit Loretta with a spear. Only the spears from the ground in that AOW are pure holy damage, the spear itself hitting deals physical damage.
@@haku8135i think he hit fire giant with the sword he was using but who really cares, pretty sure it only did a fraction of the spell either way
I think the balance is the absolute obscenity of how much Holy does to undead, so it has to be trash everywhere else. Tibia Mariners and Death Rite Birds don't stand a chance.
And yeah, Malenia spams Waterfowl Dance more often if you're staying at range and using projectiles.
Cipher Pata is the nr 1 reason I'm doing a faith build now, cuz it just looks sick lol
Babe, get up, Bryce dropped another video
Watch Messmer be weak to exclusively Holy damage
Bryce uploads really carrying my week
Love to hear that! Thanks for always watching! Sorry about the lack of great stars in this video lol
@@bryceinator13 it'll be back
litany of proper death seems to have some weird hidden property where it's not only pure holy damage, but its also specifically only effective against "those who live in death" or whatever
like others say, its absolutely insane against revenants, deathbirds, skellies, and the various other undead mobs around the lands between, but literally nothing else
for me personally, i love the spell. fits really well with the cleric/white mage type of roleplay to me, which i always gravitate to RPGs. in final fantasy 1 dia/diara/diaga does amazing damage but only to undead enemies and doesnt affect the living at all, i just treat it like that. i always keep it slotted
just saw your account. Congrats on the come up
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Honestly I don’t mind that holy damage isn’t that good for pve because faith builds in general are super overpowered, especially when you’re pairing it with another stat like str, dex, arc, or even int
Cipher Pata is actually really fun, the ash of war does incredible poise damage, and just good damage in general.
Holy damage isn’t the weakest damage type. People only say it’s weak cause some endgame bosses are resistant to it. I’d go far to say the only bosses weak to holy are main bosses but most things die quick to holy damage
Very entertaining, you aught to try stars and bubbles against really large hitbox targets, when you get full value they do a ton of damage excusing the long cast time. Better for co-op or summon tanking
Litany of proper death is only really effective against undead enemies (skeletons, mariners, deathbirds etc).
Regal ancestor spirit doesn't count as undead in the game
Description: Litany is used to help slay Those Who Live in Death.
Guy, using it on Godrick: Wow, this is ass...
this dude wears the same 3 shirts in every video. subbed
Holy damage is great, and it has been even before the DLC
The disc spells are insane and theres are tons of ways to buff it
Hi love your vids keep up the good work this would suck
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TIL in Bryce's home univers it's the step-BRO who gets stuck and the step-sis who goes 😈
Holy damage is the lowest damaging spell? Hello elden beast wth how dare u 2 shot me
I'm on my first playthrough and just killed Morgott with my holy-imbued godskin stitcher and my discus of light because I think the idea of holy damage is cool, I had no idea it was shit 😭😭
The cipher isn't that bad if you actually have the stats to use it and use the ash of war. It gets much better lategame, too.
Elden stars would be a good distraction if you combined it another weapon or spell.
Me, steamrolling the trash mobs in the DLC with dual Golden Order Greatswords & 50 FTH 30/30 STR/DEX:
I’m sure it can’t be that bad…..
ehhh, it’s not an issue because there are holy weapons and incants that can deal like any damage type, i mean holy damage specifically yeah it falls off a little late game but it isn’t unbearable for anyone but elden beast
Please tell me you followed that up with demolishing things with the Sacred Relic Sword's Waves of Gold. Would've been therapeutic.
Had to comment as a fellow Bryceinator. GG
the ash of war sacred ring of light, miquella's ring of light, golden land, sacred phalanx have a swing animation which hitbox deal the split holy/physical damage that you hit with, doesnt really invalidate the run but wanna see if you are so cracked up enough to re do it out of fussiness.
thank you, you inspired me to be... unholy XD
I just played Elden ring for the first time recently and was enjoying holy incants alongside melee and Litany of Proper Death was a MAJOR letdown. Insanely low damage and that slow casting...it should be buffed.
@@swag8724 if you want to keep using holy and want something that will make you feel better about the low damage from litany check out my most recent holy damage video
It’s a shame holy falls off so hard, because it probably has some of the best looking spells and weapon arts in the game.
It's not bad, doing a faith run that's mostly holy damage and I'm doing good
second youtuber today I have heard call the spell Law of Casualty instead of the correct Causality
Running a holy build in New Game plus 4
Yeah holy damage really sucks lol, tho it's very fun to use
I feel like peeps miss out on the kindred black blade gs, black knife, and destined death gs
shouldve used the long horn on platy, it melts since all bubbles hit
5 months later holy is the best infusion in the game
Didn't you hit Maliketh with the melee part of black knife skill which probably deals physical damage? Cool challenge btw, holy items look great
"Holy is by far the worst magic type in the entire game." Me just starting the game for the first time trying to go for a holy build: 😐
Holy has had the come up in the DLC I will bring your holy dreams to life with my upcoming max holy damage run soon
I don't think you understand how to use Elden Stars. It explodes at the end, which is where all the damage comes from, but you can't recast it while it's doing its thing or it will replace itself.
Im late to the show here, but did he change up the rules later in the run and just use the Sythe?
Holly damage is great for beating the game with these few steps :
Step one : get end game items....
Holy is a good damage type (especially for pvp) till you are fighting Maliketh, Radagon, and Elden Beast. Then its virtually useless.
I think you could used silurias vow i think is called, the crucibl3 knight lance, or ordovis sword alsp crucible knight weapon
Does the weapon swing part of the clean rot weapons aows do pure holy too?
No, it does slashing damage. He single-handedly killed his run with the Loretta fight
@@firestargaming9521it doesn't really matter. He still beat literally everything else with pure holy damage, and I doubt that little bit of physical damage made any difference in the outcome of the fight, let alone the run
Golden order greatsword is a way worse darkmoon greatsword lmao. That had to suck so bad
It's a pet peeve of mine to know people dont believe that holy dmg can be good, my favorite build is a fundamentalist build i've made, the discus of light shreds enemies hp and only costs 3 fp and has great range, litany of proper death shreds deathbirds hp very quick, to me it felt easy mode ...right untill radagon where I had to let go of the spells and use my magic erdtree knife 😂😂😂
Not gonna lie but sacred/holy is the main magic talked about in the story or something and yet it doesn’t do any effects
46:16 AYO THAT MOAN!?
You definitely can bruh
this guy's sus not using the horn properly
I got questions about that radahn kill....
Black blade: 🗿
Hey you are a realy good youtuber
8:32 Oh. Nostalgy.
faith is kinda niche tbh its only good for undead enemies
Now do it with no magic bs no buffs and cave man sword only like I did
imagine dealing damage
black knife is no longer a legendary for i got the achievement for getting all legendary weapons without having black knife
Make holy damage great again
Holy damage bounced back in the DLC don’t worry
Why does bro sound like Mini Ladd?
You should do sus rage...
NOW!
Goldmask's rags are best female armor in the game, cause side boob
I can’t follow what those buffs are for the life of me. Why tf is surprised when basically glitched the game buffing with the shield twice. Like how tf do you even
17:40 bro ain't aizen 💀💀😭
You'd have a much better time with the Fai/Int build if you leveled Mind more, just sayin
The black blade incantation would have been a cool addition instead of reusing the black knife for the final boss.
I don't think black knige ash of war is 100% holy damage
do you stream on twitch?
Not yet but I am planning on setting that up in the near future
I beat it with holy. Not that bad
yow discus of light is my favorit spell
Discus of light was solid!
kill the dragon first.
Man this aged poorly
I mean he was right for two years 😑
11:37 you hit the Draconic Tree Sentinel with Physical Damage, run invalidad
6:08
11:37 phisical dmg
yeh im confused abt that aswell
Good catch I didn’t even notice. Good thing I didn’t kill him that attempt lol
@@bryceinator13you did however hit Loretta with the cleanrot spear which does physical damage