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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • So far Season of discovery without a shadow of a doubt has been one of the best things blizzard have done for a long time. It makes me for once very optimistic about the future of classic wow.
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Комментарии • 814

  • @MetaGoblin
    @MetaGoblin  6 месяцев назад +37

    If you have any further questions guys Vostok has agreed to answer messages on his alt discord account vostok0005.

    • @TeddyBelcher4kultrawide
      @TeddyBelcher4kultrawide 6 месяцев назад

      Go live and I’ll sub

    • @Makanoyasha
      @Makanoyasha 6 месяцев назад

      So, very big reach on the link between gold farm and irl drug ring, it devalues the overall video. Trying to state that "they use it to start up selling drugs" is equivalent to "working at wendys" or "being a tutor", you can replace it with anything and it would hold true for most professions.
      Said you wanted to clear some stuff up, made it seem like there was a sense of urgency to correct something, but you literally said the same thing everyone else did. So what were you correcting?
      So in MMORPGs if the number of buyers goes down, demand goes down, price goes down. Even if there is 100 buyers, gold gets injected into circulation. Someone suggested personal loot for SoD, and while there is a lot of complications to get it to work, it would change gdkp, and seems interesting.
      Fly hacking is something they can easily correct by adding boundary boxes, if player is in boundary for "x" seconds, flag account for review, rinse repeat until its verified to avoid false bans and effective enough to catch some bots.
      Some said adding a box price would hinder botting, but it's a similar scenario with monthly, regional pricing. It raises the price of gold, but doesn't do much.
      What blizzard needs to do is have repetitive path recognition, AI recognizing AI behavior, object routine that risk assess accounts, etc etc.
      Risk assessing is easy, how often does account post message, is it guided, any friends, done unique content. Bots only have single focus, and adding layers to filter would murder farms that run major setups. Small time botters would be difficult to spot, but, they are not the massive threat yet.
      I think I understand where you were trying to go, but the video fell short imo. Have a good one.

    • @alistairbolden6340
      @alistairbolden6340 6 месяцев назад

      Very thankful I ended up on Wild-Growth EU, dosn't seem to be any bots here, I guess Americans buy far more gold. The sick thing is with the small number of servers in SOD it would only take one payed gm working 40 hours a week to remove almost all the bots from every server. Every private server can do it without any issue, just fly around and ban them. As a GM you very quickly learn where bots like to hang out, where they level up ect. Bizzard like to be able to say to investors we have x number of players, and they like the money they are getting from the bots. If Blizzard wanted to they could end botting tomorrow.
      GDKP's thankfully are American only.

    • @Lmhafu
      @Lmhafu 5 месяцев назад

      ​​@@alistairbolden6340you are very wrong and very right at the same time.
      Yes, they could end botting easily.
      Yes, they care about the numbers/amount of players.
      No, the players that bliz earns the least on are bots.
      No, Wild Growth has PLENTY of bots (got 8 chars there).
      No, GDKP's is not only an American issue, it's on your realm almost daily.

  • @IBradFrazer
    @IBradFrazer 6 месяцев назад +309

    The thing is, due to how powerful classes are in SoD, it is easy to make gold, and yet, people still choose to buy it. I think the modern player has become incredibly lazy. You want gold? Buy it. You want gear? GDKP it. You want rep? Pre-made it. You don't enjoy questing? Zygor/RestedXP. You want to level faster? Buy a boost. Arena? Buy a carry. The modern player has purchased all the fun out of the game.

    • @compulsive_curiosity
      @compulsive_curiosity 6 месяцев назад +61

      People playing games they dont even like by paying real money to speed run it is some peak idiocy

    • @icebox1954
      @icebox1954 6 месяцев назад +13

      @@compulsive_curiosity If they just want to get BiS and beat the latest content then it makes perfect sense to just swipe the card. It's far more efficient.

    • @thecookiemeister5374
      @thecookiemeister5374 6 месяцев назад +19

      “What do you mean, now we can play the game”

    • @106adamm
      @106adamm 6 месяцев назад +10

      This is society in general

    • @roberteltze4850
      @roberteltze4850 6 месяцев назад +8

      It would have been interesting if another change they made for SOD was to disable mods. Make those raid fights a little harder without an addon announcing the bomb or other mechanism you have to react to.

  • @hazardpay8560
    @hazardpay8560 6 месяцев назад +47

    Thank you for the Journalism MetagGoblin
    Also, absolutely LOVE the art style you're using in your edits!

  • @aessedaiclassic
    @aessedaiclassic 6 месяцев назад +4

    Love this series dude. Keeps me coming back. Great job editing!

  • @CowsLovesCake
    @CowsLovesCake 6 месяцев назад +35

    The best thing about playing on living flame - eu right now is that it's been locked for over a month so there's almost no bots as they can't create characters (this can be seen in the pricing). I made an alt on Lone wolf (not locked) and you can see the difference just by standing outside SFK and literally 50 rogues a minute are running out and back to reset and that's just on one layer...

    • @Monnisti
      @Monnisti 6 месяцев назад +2

      True. If you /who rogues on all dungeons there are no bots at all. Economy is perfect, 10g split in bfd is also considered good lol. When they open the server im afraid we are fucked

    • @icebox1954
      @icebox1954 6 месяцев назад +1

      You can still make characters on Living Flame. You just aren't able to do so if you didn't have one already. They are still here.

    • @runemichaeljensen
      @runemichaeljensen 6 месяцев назад

      That is not the experience I'm having lol. I see bots everywhere in certain zones.

    • @Monnisti
      @Monnisti 6 месяцев назад

      @@runemichaeljensen only see some herb bot druids at hillsbrad and thats it tbh. Any other server has hundreds of rogues in dungeons etc

    • @viktorhhh1
      @viktorhhh1 6 месяцев назад

      where? i got 4x25 chars and play alot, and i think i have only seen 1 bot. The prices on AH are way more normal. Thunderbrow ring is like 30g, on lone wolf it's 150+ @@runemichaeljensen

  • @andrewkauffold4100
    @andrewkauffold4100 6 месяцев назад +47

    Love your work man. You're the only person on the internet reporting this kind of stuff that I'm aware of. The journalistic approach to these videos is really spectacular.

    • @TheRealCeeJai
      @TheRealCeeJai 6 месяцев назад

      Preach has done a few videos fairly recently on RMT and gold-buying. IIRC, he made a series of it where he actually interviewed a gold-seller. Bellular has also done a series on gold-selling within the last year.
      I'm not replying with this to "You're wrong!" you, just letting you know there's other (large) channels out there doing deep dives into this problem as well should you wish to read/watch more about it.

    • @loyalitaeter
      @loyalitaeter 6 месяцев назад

      There are actually thousands of videos about this, there's not really something new in this one.

    • @andrewkauffold4100
      @andrewkauffold4100 6 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds good. Like I said "that I'm aware of". Will check this other stuff out homie.@@TheRealCeeJai

    • @mercy_nt1602
      @mercy_nt1602 6 месяцев назад

      Also he's the only hypocrite guy who using bots and is an user in every single bot discords and use them .

  • @Enslavedgames
    @Enslavedgames 5 месяцев назад +2

    This is a great video. Can really tell the time you put into creating it!

  • @ewave9643
    @ewave9643 6 месяцев назад +1

    I appreciate you man. Thanks for your hard work your videos are super easy to watch

  • @Nickey90
    @Nickey90 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for raising awareness towards this MetaGoblin. This is is good work

  • @PulsatingHyena
    @PulsatingHyena 6 месяцев назад +3

    Awesome vid and awesome editing! I really hope a lot of people see this

    • @dflowers6771
      @dflowers6771 6 месяцев назад +1

      he stopped wearing his hawaiian shirts..
      went from vice city to vice

    • @PulsatingHyena
      @PulsatingHyena 6 месяцев назад

      @@dflowers6771 lmao

  • @byrdmaan6171
    @byrdmaan6171 5 месяцев назад

    Keep up the great work man 👍 loving this series and the miami vice vibe it has. 😎

  • @oldtoby2194
    @oldtoby2194 6 месяцев назад +18

    A good message, on deaf ears. 2019 classic release was a wake up for me. The players give no Flux about anyone but themselves. The normalization of gold buying, hacking, and cheating is done. The amount of cheaters FAR out numbers the legit...by a long shot, sadly. It is true in all of gaming these days.

    • @MorrowProduction
      @MorrowProduction 6 месяцев назад +5

      I've ran BFD lockout probably 125+ times across 6 alts. All pugged, all random people every time.
      I've ran into way more humans playing the game normally than I have botters or "cheaters."

    • @BrokenToyAnimations
      @BrokenToyAnimations 5 месяцев назад

      @@landon7974there’s far more pug groups being advertised then gdkp runs for starters. Your delusional if you think there’s more cheaters then casual players

  • @ronzoni83
    @ronzoni83 6 месяцев назад +46

    I really feel like becoming a gold seller at this point. Seems like a great side job.

    • @randomthrowawaychannel1389
      @randomthrowawaychannel1389 6 месяцев назад

      I do it. Get into the GDKP communities; very low risk, same buyers

    • @davidcardinal3654
      @davidcardinal3654 6 месяцев назад

      It’s a mafia. I’d be careful. They will send you viruses and ddos you.

    • @ktas7408
      @ktas7408 6 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah bro, seems like “the game” is to make some cash selling gold lol

    • @davidcardinal3654
      @davidcardinal3654 6 месяцев назад +2

      Dam my comment on gold sellers got shadow banned.

    • @seanstreck2669
      @seanstreck2669 6 месяцев назад +6

      Sounds like you could outsource it. Pay a bot farm in a poor country $20/day/account to run as many accounts as your budget can afford. The broker then uses whatever means they have to drum up accounts at a cost of, say, $10/day and then you are wired the proceeds in Crypto and they pocket $10/day/account. Say an account lasts 20 days on average and you buy 10 of them. You invest $200/day and they return you $300 to $400 per day, costing you $4k after those 20 days but realizing $6k to $8k, or 2 to 4k profit in 20 days. Of course this would require immense trust in your broker, but the formula seems to be there.

  • @YoIomaster
    @YoIomaster 6 месяцев назад +2

    Never did GDKP because of exactly this. Good Video, well done.

  • @chriso2553
    @chriso2553 6 месяцев назад

    This is your best content by far. Keep up the hard work.

  • @SVOLOCHQT
    @SVOLOCHQT 4 месяца назад

    daamn its soo easy ? thanks for info , i had no idea how easy it is to start , thanks for ur video , i think u helped a lot of us getin started

  • @Absurd000
    @Absurd000 6 месяцев назад

    great video! thanks for making this one. It truely is a huge issue.

  • @Warchrist
    @Warchrist 5 месяцев назад

    incredibile, questo è un vero e proprio documentario su questi "abusi" in game, bellissimo video, veramente complimenti per tutte le descrizioi dettagliate, ma sei italiano? ciao sento sempre xD

  • @ingolf82
    @ingolf82 6 месяцев назад +33

    of course the players are to blame, they are to blame for everything, from the fact that you require 350 gear score to even enter a level up raid to botters ruining the economy

    • @ivyr336
      @ivyr336 6 месяцев назад +2

      There's an obvious way to fight it though, organize. Make guilds that do not do GDKP nor requires every consumable an WB imaginable

    • @DoctorFlux
      @DoctorFlux 6 месяцев назад +5

      GDKPs not only ruin the economy
      But also make insane huge gatekeeping for WoW
      imagine being preraid BIS for a raid but 100% unable to join a raid becuase you dont have enough gold to put in the pot for gear and they invite someone with 10k gold but gray items over you
      OR you need to be a "carry" with already near BIS raid gear
      thats the longterms effect of GDKPs : 2months as a preraid ICC BIS mage looked everywhere for just 1 run but cant find one for 2months that dont require me to be already BIS gear OR having like +50k gold
      and to get that gold : i cant becuase of botters / hackers
      the game is legit locked if you dont buy gold with how much GDKP is the meta so everyone only do GDKP runs : why i just cant make my own since non joins that run

    • @hiiipowerbass2337
      @hiiipowerbass2337 6 месяцев назад

      Also to blame for all the success with that logic

    • @bicknerry6762
      @bicknerry6762 6 месяцев назад +1

      Form your own raids

    • @simionpaul3935
      @simionpaul3935 6 месяцев назад

      Farm ur prebises and ur good to go. But i have to admit lately I have seen some bear naked green geared guys joining without even a single prebis. If you are like that ofc ppl won t take you

  • @seanomac792
    @seanomac792 6 месяцев назад +19

    This was the best video ive watched about SOD gold buying and bots period. Real journalism and hard facts. You sir are a legend! Keep up the good work!!!

  • @shmrgn3160
    @shmrgn3160 5 месяцев назад +1

    Kind of surprised no one has made a bot catching bot.. seems simple enough to program on the surface.

  • @brandonwayne7761
    @brandonwayne7761 5 месяцев назад

    Dude I love your channel, but I need to call out that parking job in the bmw… brah, white line was miles to the left 😂

  • @brandonvietheer4126
    @brandonvietheer4126 6 месяцев назад

    Great video metagoblin thank you

  • @PedsHouse
    @PedsHouse 6 месяцев назад

    the Drive reference for the intro, that gets my like ALONE

  • @alex-suciu
    @alex-suciu 6 месяцев назад

    thank you!
    you hit the nail on the head about the seed! too bad not many people like to admit it

  • @qu3nt
    @qu3nt 6 месяцев назад +2

    ohh i remember the good old days of Honorbuddy i was making 1 mechano hog every 2 days, never sold gold tho.

  • @ChrisMisMYhandle
    @ChrisMisMYhandle 6 месяцев назад +2

    These styles of videos are great. 👍

  • @chainclaw07
    @chainclaw07 6 месяцев назад +8

    I don't understand that there are actually people who pays money for gold and to "manipulate the RNG" play GDKP and because they bought gold, they have an "unfair advantage"...

    • @hiiipowerbass2337
      @hiiipowerbass2337 6 месяцев назад

      Don't play GDKP?

    • @chainclaw07
      @chainclaw07 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@hiiipowerbass2337 I don't quite understand what you're asking but, no I don't play gdkp. My notion of endgame fun is not selling an hour of my time each reset for gold

    • @golvellius
      @golvellius 6 месяцев назад

      'dont play gdkp' that doesnt make sense@@hiiipowerbass2337

    • @majkelo81
      @majkelo81 6 месяцев назад +1

      You cant understand why people have money and buy stuff they want ? Farming 500g and compete with players and bots takes time, buying 500g takes 5 min. Buying is 100% worth your time and money

    • @chainclaw07
      @chainclaw07 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@majkelo81 I don't understand why people take a videogame, and raiding of all things and treat it like a competition or proffesional job. It's just a game. Why throw away your money to people who obviously disregard the rules and obtain the gold illegitimately? The fact that those players exist in the mmo makes me not want to play it

  • @Myrkee1
    @Myrkee1 5 месяцев назад

    Awesome Vid!! Incredibly work bro!

  • @ranger-du7gk
    @ranger-du7gk 5 месяцев назад +1

    I occasionally buy gold in retail. As I’ve gotten older I just have way way way less time to play. I can buy 300k for like $11. Which means a couple of extra hours at work saves me hours and hours of in game gold farm time.

  • @MurdersFPV
    @MurdersFPV 5 месяцев назад +1

    As much as gold farming/buying is ruining the community, it doesn't help that the other side of the coin is when people running raids ask for "LF1M DPS, must have 7/7 experience. Checking parses" so that new kid is like..."how do I get the experience if no one lets me in their raid without experience and what is a parse?"

  • @Ben-ek6pj
    @Ben-ek6pj 6 месяцев назад +2

    The logic most golf buyers use is
    1) I don’t find farming gold fun
    2) I can make $100 in a day easily but could never farm 800 gold even if I play 24 hours straight.
    3) I spend 1 day working extra and now I get to enjoy the game (raid & pvp) without ever having to farm.
    Some extend this to „I don’t want to do the same raid 10x“ and a GDKP buyer is born
    I personally never bought gold but I can follow the logic

    • @lashaxoperia5917
      @lashaxoperia5917 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah farming gold is annoying, I have never ever bought gold, but farming it is very boring and when you play Classic wow you need sooo many consumes that at some point you have to farm gold. That is why my Best expansion is the Legion. SOD is fun at some point but if it becomes this GDKP bullsh... I will quit the game.

  • @littledoseTM
    @littledoseTM 6 месяцев назад +6

    Friend complained to me today that he had to buy gold again cuz everything got so expensive 😂 they dont even realize whos the problem

    • @pearltheboomkin1247
      @pearltheboomkin1247 6 месяцев назад

      When things are expensive is the best time to make gold hahaha

    • @wiliestrogue2924
      @wiliestrogue2924 5 месяцев назад

      Report them. Cheating hurts everyone.

  • @Samogen
    @Samogen 6 месяцев назад +11

    If you are within a raid and under lockout you shouldn’t be able to trade large amounts of gold. Extend that for two hours after you leave the instance as well and bam no more gdkp raids.

    • @barackbanana9786
      @barackbanana9786 6 месяцев назад

      they probably have to buy in advance 1 or 2 days for the specific ID and get their share back later. How about not being able to trade gold in general? Would fk up proffs like enchanting tho, maybe limit to 1g/hour

    • @Samogen
      @Samogen 6 месяцев назад

      I thought about that too but I don’t think players trust each other enough to do that. Too many people would ninja the gold.

    • @shiro2400
      @shiro2400 6 месяцев назад

      GDKPs are fine. I see them as gold making after u get BiS, of that phase. The issue is paying/charging so much for fake BiS gear lol. Idk why ppl even buy gear. Takes away so much of the fun that classic is built on.

    • @lumbermill8588
      @lumbermill8588 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@shiro2400 major mana pots are 45 gold on Era. The game is unplayable unless your swiping a credit card or acting as a carry for people who are swiping.

    • @Burlehmangus
      @Burlehmangus 6 месяцев назад

      This would only harm legit people. Many gdkps just mail you the gold a day later anyway.

  • @benellis8844
    @benellis8844 6 месяцев назад +1

    Another banger in wow journalism. Thank you

  • @sanderverhagen3659
    @sanderverhagen3659 5 месяцев назад

    In serbia the price is still 13 euro for 1 month where is the price lower?

  • @geekygreek7
    @geekygreek7 6 месяцев назад

    Nice job on the video! Keep it up!

  • @OGSnoberry
    @OGSnoberry 6 месяцев назад +1

    I don't necessarily see GDKPs as a problem but a symptom of the problem. I participate in them myself with a group that's set up specifically for them that vets players to weed out actual RMTers (although there's a lot of memes about it) and I do it for the same reason most others I've run it with do: You make money.
    Look at it from the perspective of the casual gamer or the dedicated but not sweaty gamer. You spend time grinding for consumes and buffs for a raid so you do well because like it or not parses/logging are here to stay and are now a litmus for whether or not you're "good", you get into a BFD maybe it's a guild run or a pug and it's a MS>OS or some other traditional run. You spend 30-60 minutes in the raid in addition to the time you spent prepping, and you lose the rolls on gear upgrades or someone ninjas and sours the experience or the group fucks up and wipes enough times that they disband and you're stuck with a partial clear lockout. You just spent all that time for nothing. Maybe you lost your buffs and/or had to use more consumes than you should have had to (a run taking an hour to reach aku or a single death means you have to burn a 3rd 30+ silver firepower pot for example).
    Conversely, a GDKP. Yeah, there's absolutely the chance that you've got a real money trader in the group if the organisers don't care or aren't paying attention. And yeah there's still the chance you don't get any upgrades or loot because you don't have enough money to outbid someone that has deeper pockets, or you're a priest or a warlock and you're bidding against a mage who Farms. But, when it's all said and done, you have three things going for GDKPs that really appeal to players: because of the nature of them, the groups running them tend to be more competent and care more so company are better and you clear faster with fewer/no deaths, ninjaing is super rare because GDKP organizers make gold doing it and ninjaing ruins their reputation, and even if you don't get gear you get a payout at the end. I would rather spend 30 minutes in BFD and walk away with 10-25g for that 30min than nothing.

  • @branidev
    @branidev 5 месяцев назад

    I remember friends using bots on private servers and fly hack was working there and then around Pandaria times fly hack was detecable right away on retail offico servers and straight banned other bots was working fine for them (fishing,lvling,dungeons leveling,profession etc) but now in SOD times fly hacks work again?!

  • @carlosmonteiro4784
    @carlosmonteiro4784 6 месяцев назад

    Also there was a bot that played for me called PQR rotation bot. Player just need to move to targets. Top dps or healing meter in raids easily and in arenas to auto cc´s etc etc etc

  • @alphagootube1234
    @alphagootube1234 5 месяцев назад

    where is the sub only video with the description?

  • @kylehofmeister6906
    @kylehofmeister6906 6 месяцев назад +4

    Start banning people buying the gold and youll solve your issue

  • @jshack461
    @jshack461 5 месяцев назад +1

    Anytime someone advertises GDKP in trade chat I immediately block them

  • @ChannelRojaxx
    @ChannelRojaxx 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'm on lone wolf and In a 10 minute span I seen at least 300 + bots run into SFK

  • @kasplat5874
    @kasplat5874 6 месяцев назад

    It seems strange that Blizzard controls the servers, the clients, has all the account information, activity logs, auction house logs, records of all player trades, in-game emails, chat logs, etc. and still allows their system to be corrupted. They know which parties are selling GDKP runs, they know which players are buying GDKP runs, they know which players have activity that doesn't match a human player and more importantly gold amounts that don't match regular activity. Even looking at in-game emails and player trades of gold amounts of say 1000 or possibly as low as 100 in a short period of time and flagging the players to look at other activities would make it pretty clear who is buying and selling gold. They aren't even trying.

  • @juanvargas201
    @juanvargas201 6 месяцев назад

    Love the "Drive" reference

  • @xaphanofthenightfall1257
    @xaphanofthenightfall1257 5 месяцев назад

    im on Mankrik, ive been around sc. 2007. If my memory is to be believed, the prices of things on the AH are about the same as they were back then.

  • @SgtZak_
    @SgtZak_ 6 месяцев назад

    What is GDPK?

  • @HappilyEverAfterGaming
    @HappilyEverAfterGaming 6 месяцев назад

    I took your instructions and clipped it up and put it on my channels shorts feed linking to this video. I hope blizzard can get it under wraps.

  • @Alex-ov5tx
    @Alex-ov5tx 6 месяцев назад

    Baneto has made me a lot of gold, I would recommend you make your own profiles for it though.

  • @compulsive_curiosity
    @compulsive_curiosity 6 месяцев назад +4

    I cant imagine why you would byy gold... Im a fairly casual player and have made about 40g on each of my 3 max level chars just from questing, which has been more then enough to buy anything i needed. Also prices are going down and have beem for a while, at least on the consumables and quest items ive bought. Sure there are insane 15g greens on the ah, but you literally have no reason to buy it. People have like, brain worms or something making them do this weird stuff for like 1 extra stat on a ring

    • @MrXiphix
      @MrXiphix 6 месяцев назад

      i buy gold so i dont have to do quests at max level or any farming for consumables to raid or enchantes, also to level my professions. if i couldnt do this, i wouldnt play the game at all. I have about 4 hours i can play a week, and im not gonna waste a second of it farming.

    • @oldjak
      @oldjak 6 месяцев назад +2

      so you ruin the game you are trying to enjoy for 4 hours? Brother you need an intellect buff @@MrXiphix

  • @106adamm
    @106adamm 6 месяцев назад +2

    I'm convinced this bloke is a gold seller himself, it's all he talks about

    • @106adamm
      @106adamm 6 месяцев назад

      @@koreanzombie6697 don't be cringe ya little fool

  • @pazgodx
    @pazgodx 5 месяцев назад

    Just throwing this out there at 12:55 - some guy is running through 1k needles with his alts on follow, tabs to one to move it to the left and start hearthing then continues to run, if you look at it it is quite obviously individual key strokes and the guy reports him for "botting"
    We are seeing an incline in player stupidity and willful ignorance - that is not botting, and they likely truly think it is and will continue to do so.

    • @pazgodx
      @pazgodx 5 месяцев назад

      Oh wow, looked closer and realized it was YOU that reported them lmfao. If you'd like me to explain how that isn't botting let me know - think its a little misinformative on your part but I really loved the rest of the video

  • @mazzith
    @mazzith 5 месяцев назад

    Bots generally drive down gold costs of consumes as there too many being posted for a few people to buy and control the market. We saw this in classic wow vanilla with devilsaur on Skeram. One guild farmed it out and killed anyone who tried to kill them. They drove the price of the leather up.

  • @manajerr
    @manajerr 2 месяца назад

    Only way you will be able to stop gdkps is personal loot with no trade ability with random players ie a full guild run can allow trading of loot even then that can become a gdkp.

  • @tmyrdal
    @tmyrdal 5 месяцев назад

    At 5:01 and 8:54 in your video, you use video clip from the streamer "moorevariety" did you ask to use it or do you credit him in end credits txt later?

    • @gazmoo9772
      @gazmoo9772 4 месяца назад

      No but does it matter Karen?

  • @ewave9643
    @ewave9643 6 месяцев назад

    Bro the intro video is killing me lmaooo

  • @samooniyaksaman9509
    @samooniyaksaman9509 6 месяцев назад

    What is the music name in 2:30 ?

    • @johngear1415
      @johngear1415 6 месяцев назад

      It sounds like dance of the dead. One of their songs maybe

  • @SNARE_DESECRATOR
    @SNARE_DESECRATOR 6 месяцев назад +1

    dont get why people do gdkp's i just do 2x soft ress runs with my guild and my shaman is almost bis geared and my warrior alt is getting pretty geared as well. with only a couple of consumes bought lol.

  • @padddy48
    @padddy48 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the guide mate, why shouldnt i do bots? i just did it now.

  • @bpkdasbaum
    @bpkdasbaum 5 месяцев назад

    12:11 I sometimes I banned bot accounts manually due to player reports or for fun and found some that were running for 3-5 days straight. That 16 hour self imposed limit of botters is just to extend the life time of an account as they know that it's one metric that is looked at by Blizzard, but there still needs to be a ban wave for the metric to be looked at, which could take months in retail or Wrath. So some botters would farm 24/7 to maximize gold yield, knowing that they would get caught anyway due some other metric. Others who were more confident in staying under the radar adn thus remained under the 16h played per day. I don't know the current status, but I would assume hunting bots is not a priority currently with the Microsoft restructuring, since even before that hunting bots was just a side quest for Blizzard. I reckon with 1900 employees fired the other day, some of them were from the risk analyst team and lots of GMs that would ban bots as a fun time activity at work.

  • @yzwme586
    @yzwme586 6 месяцев назад +1

    What is worse: the toxic parsing culture or gold farming/buying?

  • @tunaxo6703
    @tunaxo6703 5 месяцев назад

    2:15 Nice Park job LOL

  • @taylorshin
    @taylorshin 5 месяцев назад

    Great educational piece. But greed is overwhelming humanity everywhere..😢

  • @deserable
    @deserable 6 месяцев назад

    Haha that hogward express made me laugh😂

  • @amalgam5107
    @amalgam5107 6 месяцев назад +1

    The modern gamer just wants the best of the best with no in game effort. They aren’t worried about the journey getting there. Just want the nice shiney things so they can show how good they are at the game.

    • @taylorshin
      @taylorshin 5 месяцев назад

      I think it is the other way around. Those games are already too old and the player base is already deepened too much.
      So for modern gamers who joined later or returned after a long gap, they cannot catch up those old ones anymore. And WoW always needs a raid leader to invite those newcomers as its system.
      So, they have no choice but to use a shortcut method to catch up.
      I think WoW should have been wiped out for WoW 2. But nope... Cashcow is so ludicrous.
      Compared to newcomers, the old ones already have interstellar numeric stuff and want to keep it that way.

  • @nicolefrench2968
    @nicolefrench2968 6 месяцев назад

    Your accent had a funny consequence in your last statement since I can’t really distinguish whether you said “stop” or “start buying gold”. Lol.
    Good video. I feel like gold buying is way too accepted by the general populace considering it literally ruins the longevity of the game for everyone. I know many don’t care about the games’ longevity, but if you do, don’t accept that behavior from people around you.

  • @Warchrist
    @Warchrist 5 месяцев назад

    gg metagoblin like every video, btw i actual stop all my farming profession and start doing quest at level 25, the ah price of stuff is low than the vendor of stormwind, cuz i have exalted and sergeant, is a shame :(

  • @Manhattan_Marty
    @Manhattan_Marty 6 месяцев назад

    where the hell were those bots going inside that tree?

  • @DavidM-hz6rd
    @DavidM-hz6rd 6 месяцев назад

    why don't bots use the in-game "randomise" for their names, rather than gibberish? wouldn't that be less suspicious and result in less player reports, with zero downside?

  • @Followtheham
    @Followtheham 6 месяцев назад

    Make GDLP illigal = ban all who does it
    Hire a handful of GM's to look for ppl who cheat and bots = WOW SAVED.
    (But i know Blizzard will not listen)
    Rly good video Metagoblin, keep them coming!

  • @Bastyyyyyy
    @Bastyyyyyy 5 месяцев назад +1

    I did a single GDKP run on my pala tank, got paid 50g flat at the end of the raid.
    didnt need any items, but the 50g were a nice boost for me :) - but that system is not for me , glad they banned it now! even more excited for phase 2

  • @xenophane_
    @xenophane_ 6 месяцев назад

    Instant sub. Great content!

  • @inHell-rb
    @inHell-rb 6 месяцев назад +2

    the real problem is the inflation and its a death spiral.
    sooo many people buy gold and the inflation goes up because of this more people think about buying gold...
    i guess it's not helping either that the player audience is generally speaking guys 30+ which would rather job an hour and spend their money buying gold instead of farming ingame hours and hours.

  • @sheerolife
    @sheerolife 6 месяцев назад +1

    there is no reason to not buy gold. people dont have anymore the time to grind all day gold. blizz can implement the token if they want to stop it

  • @burgersbeansandchips
    @burgersbeansandchips 5 месяцев назад

    Bots aren't just being used to farm gold, there are guilds using them to farm resources. Lets see if any of them will come clean about it.
    Also a lot that's in this video was covered at Def Con over 10 years ago!

  • @Shokadezz
    @Shokadezz 5 месяцев назад

    The ad for this video is Kingboost 😂😂

  • @stickyone11
    @stickyone11 6 месяцев назад +4

    I've always thought GDKPs were lame af haha, even when I played a lot more than I do now....I never understood paying gold for gear I just earned a chance at by killing the boss lol.

    • @orion6742
      @orion6742 6 месяцев назад +1

      The bidding is fun. I do a lot of GDKP's and don't buy gold. I usually alternate between getting paid one run and then using that gold for gear the next.

    • @biyao9465
      @biyao9465 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@orion6742 you accept gold bought from a gold buyer you are part of the problem. No matter how often you say I don't buy gold.

    • @dflowers6771
      @dflowers6771 6 месяцев назад

      doesnt matter, gdkp is not the problem
      the problem is RMT sites and the company's inability to go after them

    • @gregpenismith1248
      @gregpenismith1248 6 месяцев назад

      @@biyao9465 cool story, kiddo.

    • @orion6742
      @orion6742 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@biyao9465 lol cry more

  • @harrydalgleish8464
    @harrydalgleish8464 6 месяцев назад +2

    Park like a true BMW driver

    • @MetaGoblin
      @MetaGoblin  6 месяцев назад +1

      I wanted to swing it in fast without hitting that pillar 😂

  • @loopuleasa
    @loopuleasa 5 месяцев назад

    Finally, actual investigative journalism

  • @jowebb7
    @jowebb7 5 месяцев назад

    Another thing that people don’t consider is that when you are downloading these “bots” or hacks for any game in general, you are always opening yourself up to malicious actors installing malware on your machines.
    I do not support booting in any means but if you unless you are spinning up VMs in the cloud, you should never download any software(booting and other game hacks included) that you don’t trust the developer of.
    If the developer makes bots for gold farming, it’s only a few steps removed from adding some lines of code which can side load malware onto your computer!

  • @geckoztom
    @geckoztom 6 месяцев назад

    I was farming herbalism as a casual dad but competed against 4 bots, i ve never seen bots before. I've reported them everyday, trolled them, ganked them for hours, but it had 0 effect and the next day theyre there 24/7. It was an instant un-sub for me, i dont believe Blizzard is actually banning that many

  • @Complication84
    @Complication84 6 месяцев назад +2

    Blizzard is actively fighting against this. Players who buy gold are being banned, and or having their gold and items they bought with the gold removed from their accounts. Which might be better at stopping the bots since the coders always evolve. If they severely punish every single player who buys the gold it may be a good enough to deter others, which would then hopefully kill the market for gold and drive the bots out of the game. Hopium!

    • @MikeyPaper
      @MikeyPaper 6 месяцев назад

      No theyre not. Theyre not punishing anyone. Bots are literally running rampant!

    • @Complication84
      @Complication84 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@MikeyPaper yes they are. Just had one of the guys in my guild get banned for 2 weeks and had all his gold and items stripped because the dude bought gold. He was on our raid roster now he's fucked.

    • @Numl0k
      @Numl0k 6 месяцев назад

      @@Complication84 I really doubt this. If he did get banned, I'm going to guess there's more to the story. Blizzard has been extremely lenient toward gold buyers historically. If someone gets banned and gets their stuff taken, they're very likely to end their sub. Blizzard doesn't like losing money. SoD may be different, but I really doubt they're going to choose right now to take a hard stance when they're in the position they've been moving towards for years.

    • @Complication84
      @Complication84 6 месяцев назад

      @@Numl0k Doubt all you want. He posted the screenshot of the email they sent him in discord when we asked him if he was lying, and or got caught using a hack or something. It directly stats in the email he was in trouble for BUYING GOLD, and stated his gold and items bought with it were removed from his account. If he returns after it ends we will have to see how severely it set him back. He may not come back though lol.

    • @TheTacoRich
      @TheTacoRich 6 месяцев назад

      He is lying, they don't ban gold buyers unless the buyer is dumb and only getting gold and not an item to come along with it. You buy gold and never get it from a person directly, gold comes by mail and never take only gold from mail unless it comes with an item. No ban since 2003.

  • @drblackwar6243
    @drblackwar6243 6 месяцев назад

    i play with "GDKP" myself from time to time but i'm actually "full BIS". i put on my bait gear always have 150g with me and bid everything up to squeeze more money out of people, is that already support or just self-enrichment?

  • @TheUhmmmmmmmm
    @TheUhmmmmmmmm 6 месяцев назад +1

    As much as I pray SoD will be different, I see it being the exact same XD

  • @R_a_X
    @R_a_X 6 месяцев назад +6

    1. Get more talented coders for anti-cheats.
    2. Implement non-kiting systems in dungeons like they did in SoM.
    3. Disable trading/mailing gold for all players in a raid for as long as loot items are still tradable (and change the raid loot trade timer to real time instead of in-game time).

  • @rimonshamon8607
    @rimonshamon8607 5 месяцев назад

    well since season of discovery is like another mode for wow classic. as you see classes are altered in their roll like shaman able to tank for example. if thats case then why wont do some changes like earning gold at starting level , able to use summon stones rather long walk. add talent points from level 1 instead of level 10. anyway gold farming will ramine in the game so think of it as extra option to earn gold . use it or don't its up to you.

  • @SpankersTTV
    @SpankersTTV 6 месяцев назад +2

    I’m in this video at 12:00 but
    1.) I don’t sell gold I just make content ❤️
    2.) I can only play about 6-8 hours a day cause I get GF Aggro 😂 but thanks for using my clip!

    • @diogenesalbuquerque7366
      @diogenesalbuquerque7366 6 месяцев назад +1

      you mean u run a bot application to make content? Secondly u play 8hrs a day and u have a GF? you are one of a kind sir...

    • @SpankersTTV
      @SpankersTTV 6 месяцев назад

      @@diogenesalbuquerque7366I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not

    • @imswooshtv
      @imswooshtv 6 месяцев назад

      @@diogenesalbuquerque7366 Ive raided with him and live watched him 1 pull RFC

  • @Levelity
    @Levelity 6 месяцев назад +1

    People need to start taking accountability for the community problem of gold buying. It’s their fault not the gold sellers. Good sellers don’t exist without the market.

  • @dropthebeat1139
    @dropthebeat1139 5 месяцев назад

    Can someone explain to me please what makes stolen credit cards money worse than other money in terms of getting financial benefit for blizzard? I don't get it

    • @MetaGoblin
      @MetaGoblin  5 месяцев назад

      The money has to be refunded.

  • @chainclaw07
    @chainclaw07 6 месяцев назад +4

    Blizzard still gains the sub fee - even if it was stolen by the botter.... still Blizzard makes money

    • @SirKanti1
      @SirKanti1 6 месяцев назад

      It's not just the botting accounts that Blizzard wants. It's the 2 or 3 players who would quit the game otherwise.

    • @chainclaw07
      @chainclaw07 6 месяцев назад

      @@SirKanti1 there is no straight correlation, especially when there exist players that buy gold and still play wow..

  • @Shinyshoesz
    @Shinyshoesz 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this Meta. Please, people, share this stuff.
    It's so freaking lame. Gold buying sucks. Period.
    Especially in SOD when items are relatively easy and not as time consuming to get -- you really don't need to arbitrarily buy gold.
    I do hope Blizz invests a tiny amount in manual review. If there are choke points where farming is evident and abundant, why not place a person there every few hours that looks for evident bot behavior and does massive waves of bans?
    Another method they could explore would be to track huge gold increases in accounts and investigate those and possibly reduce the gold to zero in those people's accounts.
    If you buy a grey item on the neutral AH that is vendor trash for 400g maybe that should be investigated lmao. You have no benefit of giving up 400g or buying that item in the first place.
    Or just track when someone's profit goes up arbitrarily.

  • @arek2102
    @arek2102 6 месяцев назад +1

    Liked and shared, because thanks to publicity Blizz acttualy started to do something!

  • @Itsslumpii
    @Itsslumpii 6 месяцев назад

    great video!
    it sucks to see that the player is taking their own fun out of the game by buying gold, but I'm not surprised.
    I even saw a discussion in world chat the other night, two people were arguing, and one of them said "the economy is fucked, you HAVE to buy gold" which...simply isn't true. It's very easy to get gold in SoD right now without botting for gold farming. 25s for a shadow protection pot isn't exactly expensive. However, it WILL get to a point where you have to buy gold, if everyone continues to buy gold and fuck the economy. its a self fulfilling prophecy. buying gold in the long run means that you'll probably have to buy more gold in order to sustain everything, as the economy will only get worse.
    It's frustrating. It really feels like the people who are too lazy to work for the gear, (and it really doesn't require much work in SoD) has fucked the game for the rest of the player base who don't want to or can't play several hours a day.

  • @pedropierre9594
    @pedropierre9594 6 месяцев назад +2

    By the time we hit level cap, the economy will be messed up

    • @pearltheboomkin1247
      @pearltheboomkin1247 6 месяцев назад

      Maybe theyll add longboy as a gold sink lol

    • @Volkain10
      @Volkain10 5 месяцев назад

      Already is. Gold is cheaper now then it was at 60 in MC/BWL. The inflation from quests is insane.

  • @TKJoyRide
    @TKJoyRide 5 месяцев назад

    I can see Metagoblin is a big fan of the movie Drive, awesome movie btw.

  • @daganperretti8617
    @daganperretti8617 6 месяцев назад +1

    I've been complaining about bots ever since I couldn't make money off gathering anymore. It's not fair to the players.

  • @Archy516
    @Archy516 6 месяцев назад +4

    I'm confused why are GM's checking the Y axis for fly hacking, in 3D space XY are the horizontal plane axis and Z axis is the vertical.

    • @hitoriwa
      @hitoriwa 6 месяцев назад +1

      The Y Axis refers to the place on the 2D map. i.e. 0,0 first floor, 0,1 second floor, 0,2 third floor, 0,-1 under ground

    • @karlohlen9320
      @karlohlen9320 6 месяцев назад +1

      depends on what engine you use

    • @FeribHellscream
      @FeribHellscream 6 месяцев назад

      pretty optimistic here, I bet he meant GM's are replaced by automated systems that check for such metrics 🙃

    • @hironobu64
      @hironobu64 6 месяцев назад +1

      They're checking the Y axis cause it's the vertical axis and people who say Z is vertical are wrong. 😊

    • @BreakerBeat
      @BreakerBeat 6 месяцев назад

      @@hironobu64 They are not wrong. You can have either y or z as the vertical axis, and both are commonly used. There is no one "right" way to do it, you just need to be consistent.

  • @pr0llicious
    @pr0llicious 6 месяцев назад +2

    As long as people play 16h per day, i will buy gold to surpass them in level/gear progress, with pocket money from a highly successful career :) The social benefits per month for the regular neckbeard is like a one days pay for us real gamers with careers. Im glad gold sellers are there for the people who dont sit on social benefits to play a video game 16/h day

    • @chl2161
      @chl2161 6 месяцев назад

      Precisely.

  • @Mattykek
    @Mattykek 6 месяцев назад +6

    Unless Blizzard does something about GDKPs soon, SoD will be ruined before level 60

    • @tyhyhh
      @tyhyhh 6 месяцев назад

      It won't be ruined lol it's so easy to make a normal raid

    • @Ghork1
      @Ghork1 6 месяцев назад

      it's not really that prevailant though, and tbh i just ignore those and play with my own guild

    • @Mattykek
      @Mattykek 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@tyhyhh It is for now. Its a snowball effect. Look at classic era. Elixirs going for hundreds of gold. Your raid pots will cost 1000g/week unless you make an alchemist. Then you can't afford sappers, etc.

    • @gregpenismith1248
      @gregpenismith1248 6 месяцев назад

      @@Mattykek what are you even on about? It is so easy to make gold in SoD. The GDKPs are totally within ToS and are not the problem. Keep crying, peasant.

    • @icebox1954
      @icebox1954 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Mattykek Buying consumables and getting 300 buffs for baby content is the real joke. I don't feel bad for the people who buy all these sweaty unnecessary things to beat a raid toddlers could do.