The idea of buying a battery that suits you and being able to pay a fee to get the biggest battery for long journeys or holidays is such a good idea. Would protect the value of cars as you have options. Swapping to speed up charging seems over kill but getting bigger battery when you need it would be a huge benefit.
NIO is doing more than 75,000 battery swaps daily on average. The number speaks for itself. For customers, there are several advantages of battery swapping and I don't see any disadvantages: - if you don't want to battery swap, then don't swap and use a charger instead - comment - "If you go to the restroom while charging" - is one directional scenario and should be expanded with - "What if you do NOT go to the restroom". In that case, the battery swap is obviously superior. The vast majority of the people in the cities/towns do NOT go to the restroom at gas stations. - 4th generation Power Swap Station (PSS) - total time (park, swap, exit) is 3-4 minutes - 4th generation PSS supports driverless swapping - 3rd/4th gen PSSs (will) have vending machines - you can rent a high-capacity battery for longer trips Besides, there are advantages for the community/environment: - PSS supports grid balancing - battery degradation is lower - they started installing solar panels on the roofs of PSSs - batteries can be charged during the night when electricity consumption/cost is lower - each battery is carefully inspected after the swap
The reason why it sometimes takes time to start the swap process is because the station needs to flash the battery software to match your cars software version. So if someone has an older version on their car and refuse to upgrade this will cause them and others to have delayed swaps. It can take 10sec to 1min to flash the batteries. The 100b batteries have more memory to avoid this
Me also want to see Zeekr 001, Polestar 3 and 4. But what I see in the early past is the test a some cars from Tesla and VW group, which is for me boring and not intresting.
Are you gonna take a look at the renewed ET7 with the ET9 suspension when it comes to Norway? A quick experiences video would be nice, so we get your thoughts on the upgrade/update
@@Hakkolinen I spoke to some Nio salespeople and they claimed it would be coming. Propably for the MY2025 as our models don't line up with chinese new year (that Nio at least uses)
if you buy with baas is the monthly payment for the entire life of the car or does it have an expiry date what are you entitled to how many swaps + free energy?
@@bjornnyland Yes, but if i get a very good battery, i can keep.. I have ev. After a few years i need change battery.. This is expensive. I not want change car. BR
@@perfectsoundpursuit007 paying 170€ oder 230€ per month, than you can calculate yourself how uneconomical your idea is 🤣 Nio loves people, who cant calculate
@@perfectsoundpursuit007 you pay 170€ per month, 2 swaps per months are free. You pay the energy per kWh which is reswapped. After 2 free swaps, you pay 10€ per swap + energy. This are the costs in germany. It is insane expensive.
Give me the ET7 with battery swapping and I'd keep my car until I die. 620 mile range today. What will we get 10 years from now with battery swap? 5-10 min to swap battery gives me time to pee and coffee. Yeah I like.
People will realise what alot of smart guyes figuring out, the problems of value, range and warranty is solved trough the leaseing of the battery. Dont think it as expense but as insurence. You get cheaper inurence fee also, and a cheaper starting price. factoring in reduction of finance loan, if you need it its a verry good for nio owners. Ask Tesla owners with out of warranty cars, its like getting molested.
@@YSKWatch some have been partnered a long time with nothing yet to show for Also many sign up to get access to their rather extensive charging network (alliance almost by now) But looking forward to this no longer being true. Rooting for Nio. They're good cars ngl
Swapping is as expensive as hell and an ecological disaster. NIO itself claims that 1.2 to 1.5 batteries per car are needed, but I believe these numbers are heavily sugar-coated. This system, like battery rental, will not gain traction.
If you keep your "traditional" EV for example 10 years, integrate/structural EV battery is toast or at least your integrate/structural EV battery health is a lot less which means your EV resale value is at least toast because the battery health. This means money away from your pocket or at least very high battery replacement cost. With NIO and leasing the batttery - no battery degradations worries - car resale value will remain - no battery replacement cost from your pocket. Of course in future, if manufacturers will offer 20-30 years full battery warranty, this will change the game.
While I really like NIO I do not like the battery swap for economical reasons - since the depreciation of the car must be taken by the amount of the car only, the rent will remain the same, thus depreciation will hit hard when selling the car. Same happened with the Renault Zoé with rental battery, hundreds sitting at the dealers since the battery rental cost is about the same as the leasing for a new Renault Twinto Electric - dealers are crying.
perfectly right and seen this with a guy who has lost a huge amount on a rather new ET5, he is really mad, in the aftermath he would have bought the car with battery
@@colinwiseman a car never has a ROI since a car never is an investment, it is a money drain. And this purchase can be done clever (less lost value) - or not so clever (lots of lost value).
how exactly does the swap work do you pay a monthly fee for how many years? what does it entitle you to? free swaps? I read that Nio gives free swaps and energy with the swap is it true? small battery 169 E monthly including taxes? for the entire life of the car?
...If you keep your "traditional" EV for example 10 years, integrate/structural EV battery is toast or at least your integrate/structural EV battery health is a lot less which means your EV resale value is at least toast because the battery health. This means money away from your pocket or at least very high battery replacement cost. With NIO and leasing the batttery - no battery degradations worries - car resale value will remain - no battery replacement cost from your pocket. Of course in future, if manufacturers will offer 20-30 years full battery warranty, this will change the game.
I don't really like that battery swapping. Takes a bit longer than 5 minutes and you need to stay in the car. If you go to the restroom after that, charging a modern 5C charging car would be faster because you only need to plug it in and then do your stuff.
Then, when you need to relieve yourself and you're not in a hurry, you skip the swapping station and charge at the charging station at the same location.
Personally I would never see this option as a plus. Every time I quick charge i usually go to the toilet or get some food. Then I would need to swap first, then do my business. Most of the time I am done charging before my other tasks.
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The idea of buying a battery that suits you and being able to pay a fee to get the biggest battery for long journeys or holidays is such a good idea. Would protect the value of cars as you have options. Swapping to speed up charging seems over kill but getting bigger battery when you need it would be a huge benefit.
NIO is doing more than 75,000 battery swaps daily on average. The number speaks for itself.
For customers, there are several advantages of battery swapping and I don't see any disadvantages:
- if you don't want to battery swap, then don't swap and use a charger instead
- comment - "If you go to the restroom while charging" - is one directional scenario and should be expanded with - "What if you do NOT go to the restroom". In that case, the battery swap is obviously superior. The vast majority of the people in the cities/towns do NOT go to the restroom at gas stations.
- 4th generation Power Swap Station (PSS) - total time (park, swap, exit) is 3-4 minutes
- 4th generation PSS supports driverless swapping
- 3rd/4th gen PSSs (will) have vending machines
- you can rent a high-capacity battery for longer trips
Besides, there are advantages for the community/environment:
- PSS supports grid balancing
- battery degradation is lower
- they started installing solar panels on the roofs of PSSs
- batteries can be charged during the night when electricity consumption/cost is lower
- each battery is carefully inspected after the swap
The reason why it sometimes takes time to start the swap process is because the station needs to flash the battery software to match your cars software version. So if someone has an older version on their car and refuse to upgrade this will cause them and others to have delayed swaps. It can take 10sec to 1min to flash the batteries. The 100b batteries have more memory to avoid this
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Where are the tests for the Zeekr 001, Polestar 3/4? All are currently available to test drive in Norway
Me also want to see Zeekr 001, Polestar 3 and 4. But what I see in the early past is the test a some cars from Tesla and VW group, which is for me boring and not intresting.
There is quick connectors for the cooling. Similar to Tesla, but they did not implement the swap concept
Tesla Model S up to 2019 or so is equipped with all that stuff and Tesla did make one swap station. However, they decided it wasn't worth it.
Less than 5 min to change the battery is pretty great !
Onvo L60 is even in 2min and 30 seconds. It’s blazing fast
Where is part 3-4-5 and 6? ;)
Are you gonna take a look at the renewed ET7 with the ET9 suspension when it comes to Norway? A quick experiences video would be nice, so we get your thoughts on the upgrade/update
Will it come to Norway? I do not think so.
@@Hakkolinen I spoke to some Nio salespeople and they claimed it would be coming. Propably for the MY2025 as our models don't line up with chinese new year (that Nio at least uses)
@@SomeoneAbstruse I don't see why they would. That model does not fit our market well
@@Hakkolinen o the et9 will not come, I thought you meant the updated et7
ET9 doesn't make sense for europe. Totally agree. Sorry abt the confusion
NIO is the best Chinese EV brand out there.
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Does Nio sell in Norway? In Denmark they were failure and has more or less given up. So far this year, they have sold 3 cars, three.
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Nio got the closest software to Tesla
What is the sound system like? Meant to be very good!!
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if you buy with baas is the monthly payment for the entire life of the car or does it have an expiry date what are you entitled to how many swaps + free energy?
They need to work on a way to make it so you can leave the car from any door during the swap. 😊
I'm sure they made it, you can leave the car before the swap as the car does it all anyway...
Very good this mode, swaping battery, no problem with battery degradation.. I like that! 👍
Degradation is there, even on brand new cars because of battery swap.
@@bjornnyland Yes, but if i get a very good battery, i can keep.. I have ev. After a few years i need change battery.. This is expensive. I not want change car. BR
@@perfectsoundpursuit007 paying 170€ oder 230€ per month, than you can calculate yourself how uneconomical your idea is 🤣 Nio loves people, who cant calculate
@@LittleSpot i thinking battery swap was free.. I remain to my ev, in this case..
@@perfectsoundpursuit007 you pay 170€ per month, 2 swaps per months are free. You pay the energy per kWh which is reswapped. After 2 free swaps, you pay 10€ per swap + energy. This are the costs in germany. It is insane expensive.
EC7 test please!!
Give me the ET7 with battery swapping and I'd keep my car until I die. 620 mile range today. What will we get 10 years from now with battery swap? 5-10 min to swap battery gives me time to pee and coffee. Yeah I like.
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People will realise what alot of smart guyes figuring out, the problems of value, range and warranty is solved trough the leaseing of the battery.
Dont think it as expense but as insurence. You get cheaper inurence fee also, and a cheaper starting price. factoring in reduction of finance loan, if you need it
its a verry good for nio owners. Ask Tesla owners with out of warranty cars, its like getting molested.
With NIO and leasing the battery - no degradations worries - car resale value will remain - no battery replacement cost from your pocket.
Looking forward to see the 1k km challenge!
NIO is the future
Nio seems to have improved a lot. Good for them. I wonder if they are profitable yet?
Their most recent numbers says no. Wonder how sub-brand onvo/ledao is gonna change that
6 other manufacturers signup to use the technology, probably that will reduce the operation cost.
@@YSKWatch some have been partnered a long time with nothing yet to show for
Also many sign up to get access to their rather extensive charging network (alliance almost by now)
But looking forward to this no longer being true. Rooting for Nio. They're good cars ngl
Swapping is as expensive as hell and an ecological disaster. NIO itself claims that 1.2 to 1.5 batteries per car are needed, but I believe these numbers are heavily sugar-coated. This system, like battery rental, will not gain traction.
It's only 1.03 batteries per car.
If you keep your "traditional" EV for example 10 years, integrate/structural EV battery is toast or at least your integrate/structural EV battery health is a lot less which means your EV resale value is at least toast because the battery health. This means money away from your pocket or at least very high battery replacement cost. With NIO and leasing the batttery - no battery degradations worries - car resale value will remain - no battery replacement cost from your pocket. Of course in future, if manufacturers will offer 20-30 years full battery warranty, this will change the game.
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While I really like NIO I do not like the battery swap for economical reasons - since the depreciation of the car must be taken by the amount of the car only, the rent will remain the same, thus depreciation will hit hard when selling the car. Same happened with the Renault Zoé with rental battery, hundreds sitting at the dealers since the battery rental cost is about the same as the leasing for a new Renault Twinto Electric - dealers are crying.
perfectly right and seen this with a guy who has lost a huge amount on a rather new ET5, he is really mad, in the aftermath he would have bought the car with battery
Stop buying cars for the ROI and buy a car to use?
@@colinwiseman a car never has a ROI since a car never is an investment, it is a money drain. And this purchase can be done clever (less lost value) - or not so clever (lots of lost value).
how exactly does the swap work do you pay a monthly fee for how many years? what does it entitle you to? free swaps? I read that Nio gives free swaps and energy with the swap is it true? small battery 169 E monthly including taxes? for the entire life of the car?
...If you keep your "traditional" EV for example 10 years, integrate/structural EV battery is toast or at least your integrate/structural EV battery health is a lot less which means your EV resale value is at least toast because the battery health. This means money away from your pocket or at least very high battery replacement cost. With NIO and leasing the batttery - no battery degradations worries - car resale value will remain - no battery replacement cost from your pocket. Of course in future, if manufacturers will offer 20-30 years full battery warranty, this will change the game.
Swapping >>>> Fast charging and it isn't close
im First for a Bjorn video?
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@@thomaswestin9987Schnell!!!
I don't really like that battery swapping. Takes a bit longer than 5 minutes and you need to stay in the car. If you go to the restroom after that, charging a modern 5C charging car would be faster because you only need to plug it in and then do your stuff.
Bring a bottle.
Then, when you need to relieve yourself and you're not in a hurry, you skip the swapping station and charge at the charging station at the same location.
It takes 3 minutes in gen3 stations.
4th gen (only in China atm) supports driverless swapping. After swapping the battery, the car parks close by. So this wont be a problem for long. (y)
@@mrTRONDRgreat!!!😊
Personally I would never see this option as a plus. Every time I quick charge i usually go to the toilet or get some food. Then I would need to swap first, then do my business. Most of the time I am done charging before my other tasks.
Yes, you are one of these toilet people. Almost 55 000 000 swaps have already been made. They didn't need any toilet.
battery swap takes some times, when the chines is going true your log 😆
Bjorn, you made unnecessary joke about Nio sending data to China, which reinforce the bias against Asians people, remember you are one of them.
Why so serious?😅 I hope people understand humor. Any car sends data to its manufacturer's homeland or at least to the manufacturer, that's a given.
@@armini0 not true if there is local data law
he also say often: sending data to germany... No bias, just a joke about all the cloud stuff
No, no, Bjorn. You cannot compare a Chinese car with Mercedes and Bmw.
Yeah you really can't but it's hilarious to watch two of those in a race to the bottom.
Of course I can.
I would rather buy Nio, Xpeng, YangWang/BYD than Mercedes, and especially BMW.
Ofc you cannot, the last 2 are profitable and do not hemorrhage investor money.
@@ptarh404 I would say that you cannot compare NIO company to Mercedes/BMW company but you definitely can compare NIO cars to Mercedes/BMW cars.
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