I also have a Low Rider ST and my bars have the same exact issue. I thought I was crazy at first, but I’m glad you posted this video confirming exactly the same thing.
Have you guys mentioned this issue to HD Dealer or make a complaint toHD corporate so they can recall and replace that handle bar. I did check with my riding buddy on his Low Rider Standard but that 2020 and also the Street Bob 2022 and both of them are even and balance. Just my suggestions.
I had the same thing. Its the rubber bushings the risers are mounted into. However, i turned my bars all the way to the left and gave them a hard jerk several times until they were straight. Now they're perfect. Im guessing it's caused by the "assembly line" order in which they instal things.
Same same. Saw this video long before I got my bike, and it was the first thing I noticed when I got on it due to this video. Thanks for posting… since it’s a common thing, I’m not at all concerned. May try to center them better when I change the riser.
This may be a redundant HD key fob request, but I suspect your ability to give clear instructions is superb. Can you please make a vid on how to set your pin to start the bike in case the battery in the fob dies?
Yep, just got mine today. Bars are aimed to the right slightly. It’s a bit annoying, but not concerned as this is clearly a common “thing” with these bikes. May try to adjust when I swap to a taller riser. Otherwise… just gonna ride and enjoy.
I ordered a bar/riser set up from Thrashin recently and I got some new riser bushings as well. I'm hoping the new set up will force everything straight but we'll see!
Same crooked bar bug as my ST, the problem is the riser, the fix is just loosen not take off the 3/4 riser nuts ,take the bar off, put the top clamp back on without the bar tighten to hand tight all 4 Allen clamp bolts, then re tighten the 3/4 nuts, once those 3/4 nuts are tight re install the bar in the clamp and re tighten the 4 Allen clamp bolts. Problem solved on my bike with this process. Good luck.
I’m not a fan of that gauge setup. Especially integrated into the clamp. On a test ride i had some problems seeing the speed in the sun. My other problem is the shorter bag because of the duals. The fairing is nice and the 117” is smooth. I’ll probably wait till next year and hopefully they change those issues.
My bars sit crooked to the left and bike actually pulls left and vibrates at about 75mph ! It’s a 23 with 9.5 thrashin pullback risers and aggressive mid bend bar.
Thanks, great video, that’s strange about off set bars. The risers do look 😊 great. Key to lock the steering , same as pannier key ? Is there a 6 th gear light ? Love the bike 🤩🤩
I like everything about the ST except those gauges which I would like to replace with the single round gauge of the S. The gauge off the S looks as though it belongs on a motorcycle. If it's not possible to swap the gauges, I'd buy an S with the ST fairing. I don't carry pillion passengers but I do have a Givi 56 litre top box on my current bike which I find indispensable. Side panniers get in the way when filtering through traffic and I'd only put them on the bike for extra carrying capacity on interstate trips. I prefer the look of the bike without them on. Shoulder high thick bars that drop away that Harley make would replace those standard bars. The Milwaukee 8 is still the engine I prefer, though I'd like to explore gravel backroads on a Pan America.
I've heard that the round gauge from the S is a direct swap which is super convenient! I agree about the top box, I just received my tour pack mounting rack in the mail a couple days ago so that I can fit a box of my own. The Pan America is an awesome bike, I test rode one before I put a down payment on this bike and I was highly considering grabbing one of those.
People have done it the other way round and fitted this Street Bob type gauge to the new Low Rider S. It was done with risers and mounting plate from Thrashin’ Supply. When fired up, the new display showed all the correct info such as mileage etc. without any further input. Harley claim they used this gauge on the ST to allow more room for devices that riders use on a tour, such as Sat Nav, phone, drinks holder etc. Others think it’s to help with the aerodynamics of the vent.
@@aunoates6617 I just don't like the look of those gauges preferring the Round,traditional,single gauge look - same as Harley have fitted to the Nightster and Sportster S.
Thanks for that information on the dash. I am getting one myself but I Sam curious if there is anything in the fairing as far as a cigarette lighter or a glove box like on the street glide?
There's nothing in the fairing at all but there is an option to install a Rockford Fosgate speaker which takes the place of the front plastic panel. I'd love some glove boxes but there's nothing in there from the factory. There is a USB port on the frame near the fairing though which is convenient.
A lot of Harleys come like this if you put solid riser bushings in it’ll take this away it’s not the bars bent or the risers crooked it’s the soft bushings kind of cocked to the left it’s always to the left
Yes, it's for the stacked Exhaust Pipes. Of course, if you switch to a 2-1 pipe, it'll probably be even more noticeable? Some guys would just rather have 2 smaller bags...
The grips aren't terrible but nothing special either. The stock seat is actually really comfortable! It holds you in nicely when riding aggressive as well. I'll be swapping it out for the SDC seat so I can have the back rest but if I didn't want that then I'd probably just leave it.
Just could sit on a 2022 Low Rider S in UK showroom, had the feeling that the heavy breather intake would be in the way of right leg once I install forward controls? Your view? Similar on ST?
Yes that is definitely a concern if you plan on using forwards or highway pegs. I can position my leg underneath it so it's not really in the way but I can't bend my knee at all or it will hit it. This was the same way on my Sportster with the stock dished intake. Not ideal but I'm used to it at this point.
I have the moustache engine guard with highway pegs. If I try to put my foot on the actual engine guard, the air intake definitely gets in the way. The way I have the highway pegs adjusted, my leg is a couple inches away from the intake. If I had forward controls on, I could see that MY leg tucked underneath the intake. However, I am short, 5'5".
Something like this might work well for you: www.speed-kingscycle.com/collections/18-softail-handlebars-and-risers/products/kraus-t-rex-pull-back-plate?variant=16802328150114 You can also try rolling the bars back which will give you a little bit of a shorter reach but I personally don't like how it feels with the bars at that angle.
@@MikeBaker___ not gonna change on my 2020 S. Just worried about the new 2022 I ordered. I asked Harley and they said they haven't came up with anything because all the electronics is built into the handlebars. So I'm wondering if it's even possible to change the bars or do a riser on the new 2022 s t
@@hatersgonnahate6222 Yes you can certainly swap the bars and risers if you'd like. I've seen a couple people with the Thrashin pullback risers on their ST. You'll be limited in how high you can go because of the stock cable length and it's kind of a pain because all of the wiring is internal.
I've had multiple people's tell me that if you take the bars off, loosen the riser bolts, put the top cap on (without the bars), re tighten the riser bolts, and re install the bars, then it should straighten it out. Haven't tried it yet but if that doesn't work then poly bushings should do the trick.
I'll try to show it when the bike is running so you can see how it really looks. I used it on my first ride as you're not supposed to exceed 3k rpm for the first 50 miles and it was very easy to see and use.
@@MikeBaker___ Bar is crooked just like yours on my new ST. Doesn't look real easy to loosen the risers to try tweaking it... A video on that (if you try it and it works) would be awesome!
I really have to ride it more and complete the break in before I can comment accurately on that. So far I've only been able to ride it twice and in those 80 miles I've used 1.25g. So far so good!
I went on a long ride last week with my best friend who rides a 2018 Heritage. Depending on the conditions, I averaged over 45 mph/gallon and in one stretch out of the mountains my range was nearly 250 miles. My friend thought it was ridiculous how fuel efficient my bike was compared to his. I did have a tough section between Amarillo and Lubbock with 40 mph headwinds that definitely had a negative impact on the fuel efficiency.
Yes, there is a USB port on the left hand side below the gas tank. Very handy! There is also an SAE connector down by the primary for a battery tender or heated gear.
From what I've been seeing, it ranges a ton from dealer to dealer. I've heard of people paying straight MSRP and others being quoted $5k+ over. Personally I paid about $1k over, so $22,800.
Yes, there is a USB port on the left hand side below the gas tank. Very handy! There is also an SAE connector down by the primary for a battery tender or heated gear.
@@MikeBaker___ You need a separate harness that attaches directly to the battery for heated gear. Heated gear draws too many amps for the battery tender harness. It's a bit of a pain in the rear to get to the battery, but the good thing is is that you do not need to take the battery completely out to attached the harness that comes withy your heated gear.
Mine are definitely crooked and I left Harley with 1 mile sooooooooo,why the f&$# are my bars crooked? Oh yeah Mikes Harley said it’s normal??? Really man??
What are you talking about? I literally said that "it's wild that on a brand new bike you have that" when talking about the crooked bars. It's not like I'm saying it's normal, I'm pointing out that it's messed up from the factory.
@@MikeBaker___ I think he’s referring to mikes Harley dealership(perhaps in ct) telling him that it’s normal. Coincidence in the name and misunderstanding perhaps.
So they made a Sport glide with a fairing with a Street Bob speedo for just 30K and called it Commiefornian Low Rider ST edition?!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Enjoy your bike my friend but all jokes aside and for what it’s worth the better buy here is the Standard Low rider S with the 117 that you can sell the motor buy a 131 crate motor do a killer paint job and now you have a better waaay better bike than a CVO that’s worth 50K for maybe 30-35 grand. Yuup go get em CVOs🤣🤣🤣
Sportglide had rubbish rake, single disk, and a terrible fairing. Literally the only good thing about it was the detachable bags. Thank god Harley made this haha.
I also have a Low Rider ST and my bars have the same exact issue. I thought I was crazy at first, but I’m glad you posted this video confirming exactly the same thing.
Same, it is driving me nuts.
Have you guys mentioned this issue to HD Dealer or make a complaint toHD corporate so they can recall and replace that handle bar. I did check with my riding buddy on his Low Rider Standard but that 2020 and also the Street Bob 2022 and both of them are even and balance. Just my suggestions.
I had the same thing. Its the rubber bushings the risers are mounted into. However, i turned my bars all the way to the left and gave them a hard jerk several times until they were straight. Now they're perfect. Im guessing it's caused by the "assembly line" order in which they instal things.
Same here. Haven't tried to adjust yet.
Same same. Saw this video long before I got my bike, and it was the first thing I noticed when I got on it due to this video. Thanks for posting… since it’s a common thing, I’m not at all concerned. May try to center them better when I change the riser.
Same as Street Bob. I have a 22. I actually love the dash. Everything you need and looks clean. ❤️❤️❤️
This may be a redundant HD key fob request, but I suspect your ability to give clear instructions is superb. Can you please make a vid on how to set your pin to start the bike in case the battery in the fob dies?
That should be in the Owners Manual. It’s kind of like playing Contra on Nintendo.
Yep, just got mine today. Bars are aimed to the right slightly. It’s a bit annoying, but not concerned as this is clearly a common “thing” with these bikes. May try to adjust when I swap to a taller riser. Otherwise… just gonna ride and enjoy.
I ordered a bar/riser set up from Thrashin recently and I got some new riser bushings as well. I'm hoping the new set up will force everything straight but we'll see!
Same crooked bar bug as my ST, the problem is the riser, the fix is just loosen not take off the 3/4 riser nuts ,take the bar off, put the top clamp back on without the bar tighten to hand tight all 4 Allen clamp bolts, then re tighten the 3/4 nuts, once those 3/4 nuts are tight re install the bar in the clamp and re tighten the 4 Allen clamp bolts. Problem solved on my bike with this process. Good luck.
Hell yeah I'll give that a try! That does make sense as a way to kind of force everything straight. Thanks for the tip!
I had the same issue with my ST. I just did what @eric Huston said to do. Worked perfect. My bars are straight now. Thanks for the tip. 👍
Gear indicator only shows when you're moving, though. Not when sitting still.
Great info video. Hoping to find one soon. Assuming that holding down the 'top left' button will reset the trip mileage.
Yep, just hold it down for a few seconds and it resets
Same issue on my ST. Swapped the bushings, and riser, didnt fix it. Found this video googling to see what others have done.
Good info about the codes. Thanks!
I’m not a fan of that gauge setup. Especially integrated into the clamp. On a test ride i had some problems seeing the speed in the sun. My other problem is the shorter bag because of the duals. The fairing is nice and the 117” is smooth. I’ll probably wait till next year and hopefully they change those issues.
The bars on my bike seem off too, I was like well that’s weird on a brand new bike, but was honestly too happy to be on it to say anything 😅.
I'm in the same boat hahaha. Glad to know it's not just mine though!
My bars sit crooked to the left and bike actually pulls left and vibrates at about 75mph ! It’s a 23 with 9.5 thrashin pullback risers and aggressive mid bend bar.
Wow sick bike‼️
My st has the crooked riser look as well.
Thanks, great video, that’s strange about off set bars. The risers do look 😊 great. Key to lock the steering , same as pannier key ? Is there a 6 th gear light ? Love the bike 🤩🤩
Thanks! Yep, same key for the steering lock. There's actually an indicator that tells you what gear you're in at all times, 1st through 6th!
I like everything about the ST except those gauges which I would like to replace with the single round gauge of the S. The gauge off the S looks as though it belongs on a motorcycle. If it's not possible to swap the gauges, I'd buy an S with the ST fairing. I don't carry pillion passengers but I do have a Givi 56 litre top box on my current bike which I find indispensable. Side panniers get in the way when filtering through traffic and I'd only put them on the bike for extra carrying capacity on interstate trips. I prefer the look of the bike without them on. Shoulder high thick bars that drop away that Harley make would replace those standard bars. The Milwaukee 8 is still the engine I prefer, though I'd like to explore gravel backroads on a Pan America.
I've heard that the round gauge from the S is a direct swap which is super convenient! I agree about the top box, I just received my tour pack mounting rack in the mail a couple days ago so that I can fit a box of my own. The Pan America is an awesome bike, I test rode one before I put a down payment on this bike and I was highly considering grabbing one of those.
People have done it the other way round and fitted this Street Bob type gauge to the new Low Rider S. It was done with risers and mounting plate from Thrashin’ Supply. When fired up, the new display showed all the correct info such as mileage etc. without any further input. Harley claim they used this gauge on the ST to allow more room for devices that riders use on a tour, such as Sat Nav, phone, drinks holder etc. Others think it’s to help with the aerodynamics of the vent.
@@aunoates6617 I just don't like the look of those gauges preferring the Round,traditional,single gauge look - same as Harley have fitted to the Nightster and Sportster S.
Thanks for that information on the dash. I am getting one myself but I Sam curious if there is anything in the fairing as far as a cigarette lighter or a glove box like on the street glide?
There's nothing in the fairing at all but there is an option to install a Rockford Fosgate speaker which takes the place of the front plastic panel. I'd love some glove boxes but there's nothing in there from the factory. There is a USB port on the frame near the fairing though which is convenient.
@@MikeBaker___ Thanks for the information I am planning on putting the speaker system in .
A lot of Harleys come like this if you put solid riser bushings in it’ll take this away it’s not the bars bent or the risers crooked it’s the soft bushings kind of cocked to the left it’s always to the left
Polyurethane bushings are a good option. More rigid but still absorb vibration.
Question whats the deal with the bags? Are they different sizes?
Yes, it's for the stacked Exhaust Pipes. Of course, if you switch to a 2-1 pipe, it'll probably be even more noticeable? Some guys would just rather have 2 smaller bags...
Great bike. I think the lack of a nice analog tach and speedo on this bike is a real miss. I’d rather glance than read.
I've actually heard that the analog gauge from the 2022 LRS is basically a plug and play swap. Pretty cool option if you don't want the digital!
@@MikeBaker___ Lol…I’m certain I could rebuild the bike if I wanted to. Give me some real gauges Harley, for $22k, not a wrist watch.
nice close up! thanks! how the stock grips? stock seat?
The grips aren't terrible but nothing special either. The stock seat is actually really comfortable! It holds you in nicely when riding aggressive as well. I'll be swapping it out for the SDC seat so I can have the back rest but if I didn't want that then I'd probably just leave it.
My bars seem bent also. Took it back to dealership to fix and still not fixed. Another bad design product from Harley
The lower indcator lights seem in their own housing. Can this unit be moved/fixed above the speed display?
They are definitely separate units so I'm sure you could relocate it if you wanted to!
Just could sit on a 2022 Low Rider S in UK showroom, had the feeling that the heavy breather intake would be in the way of right leg once I install forward controls? Your view? Similar on ST?
Yes that is definitely a concern if you plan on using forwards or highway pegs. I can position my leg underneath it so it's not really in the way but I can't bend my knee at all or it will hit it. This was the same way on my Sportster with the stock dished intake. Not ideal but I'm used to it at this point.
I have the moustache engine guard with highway pegs. If I try to put my foot on the actual engine guard, the air intake definitely gets in the way. The way I have the highway pegs adjusted, my leg is a couple inches away from the intake. If I had forward controls on, I could see that MY leg tucked underneath the intake. However, I am short, 5'5".
Will this speedo fit on the 2022 Low Rider S? I like the clean look.
Yes I am fairly certain it will. I know for a fact that you can put a LRS speedo on the ST so I would imagine it works the other way around as well.
Hey buddy what is the height of the stock bars on the ST
Very helpful. Thank you.
My 21 lowrider s came with the bars like that also
Pull back risers?
@@MikeBaker___ no the bars are off also. Now I have 10inch pull backs and replaced the bushings but yeah the bars are crooked or at least look to me
@@wpnevox451 So wild! Thanks for confirming that it's not just my bike haha
hi just wondering could you put speakers into faring
Yes, Rockford Fosgate makes a drop in speaker which fits in place of one of the plastic panels. The fairing is pre wired for it. Cost is $1k.
I ordered the new st. Haven't got yet. However on my s im reaching even with reach seat can the bars on st be moved? To reach better?
Something like this might work well for you:
www.speed-kingscycle.com/collections/18-softail-handlebars-and-risers/products/kraus-t-rex-pull-back-plate?variant=16802328150114
You can also try rolling the bars back which will give you a little bit of a shorter reach but I personally don't like how it feels with the bars at that angle.
@@MikeBaker___ not gonna change on my 2020 S.
Just worried about the new 2022 I ordered. I asked Harley and they said they haven't came up with anything because all the electronics is built into the handlebars. So I'm wondering if it's even possible to change the bars or do a riser on the new 2022 s t
@@hatersgonnahate6222 Yes you can certainly swap the bars and risers if you'd like. I've seen a couple people with the Thrashin pullback risers on their ST. You'll be limited in how high you can go because of the stock cable length and it's kind of a pain because all of the wiring is internal.
@@hatersgonnahate6222what did you end up doing? Just ordered a reduced reach seat but would like new bars (I think)
@@MikeBaker___ had all new cables to reach with the bars 12" and everything is perfect.
💯👍
Any luck with a fix for the crooked bar? Mine is crooked and it bugs the hell out of me as the bike is brand new 😡
I've had multiple people's tell me that if you take the bars off, loosen the riser bolts, put the top cap on (without the bars), re tighten the riser bolts, and re install the bars, then it should straighten it out. Haven't tried it yet but if that doesn't work then poly bushings should do the trick.
@@MikeBaker___ make a vid when you try it please. Lol I just don’t see how that will fix it.
While doing that install polyurethane bushings too.
Mine is crooked too and also not centered.
I'd love if you could show the rpm read out. I'm trying to determine if I'll miss the classic gauge. I use it to know when to shift 🤣
I'll try to show it when the bike is running so you can see how it really looks. I used it on my first ride as you're not supposed to exceed 3k rpm for the first 50 miles and it was very easy to see and use.
Going to check my bars now lol
Let me know!
@@MikeBaker___ Bar is crooked just like yours on my new ST. Doesn't look real easy to loosen the risers to try tweaking it... A video on that (if you try it and it works) would be awesome!
Hows the fuel economy with the 117? just curious how much it is compared to a 107 😁
I really have to ride it more and complete the break in before I can comment accurately on that. So far I've only been able to ride it twice and in those 80 miles I've used 1.25g. So far so good!
@@MikeBaker___ Thank you for the response 🙌
I went on a long ride last week with my best friend who rides a 2018 Heritage. Depending on the conditions, I averaged over 45 mph/gallon and in one stretch out of the mountains my range was nearly 250 miles. My friend thought it was ridiculous how fuel efficient my bike was compared to his. I did have a tough section between Amarillo and Lubbock with 40 mph headwinds that definitely had a negative impact on the fuel efficiency.
I just did a 3,000 mile road trip and got 50 mpg most of the time
Does it have a usb charging port? If so where is it located.
Yes, there is a USB port on the left hand side below the gas tank. Very handy! There is also an SAE connector down by the primary for a battery tender or heated gear.
@@MikeBaker___ awesome! Thanks.
How much markup above msrp is dealer milking the customer?
From what I've been seeing, it ranges a ton from dealer to dealer. I've heard of people paying straight MSRP and others being quoted $5k+ over. Personally I paid about $1k over, so $22,800.
@@MikeBaker___ That's my favorite of the new models.
Is there a USB connection to charge phones or gps units?
Yes, there is a USB port on the left hand side below the gas tank. Very handy! There is also an SAE connector down by the primary for a battery tender or heated gear.
@@MikeBaker___ thanks so much. great video
and great information. I cant wait for mine to get here.
@@MikeBaker___ You need a separate harness that attaches directly to the battery for heated gear. Heated gear draws too many amps for the battery tender harness. It's a bit of a pain in the rear to get to the battery, but the good thing is is that you do not need to take the battery completely out to attached the harness that comes withy your heated gear.
That digital watch looking thing from the 80s got to go.Needs traditional gauges. Otherwise a nice looking bike.
Lol my.bars are cocked to the side too
Mine too wtf
The bar is bent
Yep. Yours isn’t the only one with crooked ass bars. Fucking Harley can’t do anything right
Mine are definitely crooked and I left Harley with 1 mile sooooooooo,why the f&$# are my bars crooked? Oh yeah Mikes Harley said it’s normal??? Really man??
What are you talking about? I literally said that "it's wild that on a brand new bike you have that" when talking about the crooked bars. It's not like I'm saying it's normal, I'm pointing out that it's messed up from the factory.
@@MikeBaker___ I think he’s referring to mikes Harley dealership(perhaps in ct) telling him that it’s normal. Coincidence in the name and misunderstanding perhaps.
So they made a Sport glide with a fairing with a Street Bob speedo for just 30K and called it Commiefornian Low Rider ST edition?!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Enjoy your bike my friend but all jokes aside and for what it’s worth the better buy here is the Standard Low rider S with the 117 that you can sell the motor buy a 131 crate motor do a killer paint job and now you have a better waaay better bike than a CVO that’s worth 50K for maybe 30-35 grand. Yuup go get em CVOs🤣🤣🤣
Sportglide had rubbish rake, single disk, and a terrible fairing. Literally the only good thing about it was the detachable bags. Thank god Harley made this haha.
@@jimmyrustles8118 those bags are trash cause they have the same bracket like the Heritage that’s why I got the Road King Special 🤣🤣