U-DRAG: BMW M8 Competition vs. Shelby GT500
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- Welcome back to Edmunds U-Drags, our series of down-and-back drag races! In this episode, two big, high-horsepower coupes hit the track as our long-term 2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 takes on the luxurious 2023 BMW M8 Competition. Can the GT500’s raw American muscle outrun the M8’s sophisticated German engineering and all-wheel-drive system? Find out with Edmunds’ Clint Simone in the video above!
BMW M8 Competition pricing & review: edmu.in/3ourqDC
Ford Shelby GT500 price & review: edmu.in/3NtoqyZ
00:00 Intro
01:04 The Numbers
01:48 Race 1 Prep
02:50 Race 1
04:55 Race 2 Prep
05:48 Race 2
07:04 Stats Recap
08:29 U-Drags Leaderboard
08:54 GT500 In-Car Run
09:42 Edmunds' Take
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Do you think the BMW M8 Competition is an underrated supercar? Let us know in the comments.
Let's get the Raptor R and TRX out here!
Yes it is
Hell yeah. I have the M850i and it is way underrated, so the M8C is a even more so. Now, having driven the M8, I chose the M850i because of price and better ride quality. But that extra 90 horsepower delta is crazy. The M8C is one of the best on the market.
@@MatthewParksSrI’m buying an M8C Convertible next mount. Just wondering why the M850 has a better ride quality
@@younesshojaiebecause it has a softer suspension so it’s better for long drives, the M8 comp has stiffer suspension, anti roll bars and it sits lower so the ride quality is compromised but it’s stable at high speeds and it stays flat while taking corners
the 2nd launch on that m8 was brutal
Yes it was...advantage of the AWD, which like the GTR, is just awesome!!!
And that second launch of the GT500 was horrible... He did better on the second half than the first guy did
The M8 Competition is absolutely insane
IN-SAAAAAAAAANE.🤯
IN THE MEMBRANE!!!!!!
That M8 is one of the last good looking BMW’s that haven’t fallen victim to massive over sized grille’s and overly blocky designs (my opinion) so it’s nice to see that it can talk a big game in performance too!
Could anyone imagine U Drag DRAGSTRIPS all over the country? It would sell like wildfire guaranteed.
Yep! True measure of performance
Better build in large aprons…lots of morons with cooked brakes would never make that turn 😂.
Like hotcakes
Oh yeah it would definitely be alot of hurt feelings from the usual braggers 😂
FOR SURE! LETS BUILD AIRPORT RUNWAYS WHEREVER WE WANT!!!!! Goddamn idiots
The M8 is one of the underrated street weapons most people are not familiar with in the car game. Modded those things reach 900HP+ really freakishly quick rides, especially around a course. 10 second car that can comfortably handle a family is insane and a long trip. GT500 is a great car but the M8CP to me is the sleeper you dont expect to be that quick.
AWD is the only thing helping that car.
@@yusufgta4341 Don't forget the ridiculous powertrain.
@@yusufgta4341143hp more in the shelby makes up for it I guess
@@yusufgta4341 Really the only thing? So a twin turbo V8 with over 600HP underrated with a different TQ curve isn't helping at all? Let me try to race that GT500 with a VW Tiguan AWD since thats should yield the same results being the only differentiator. #BRUH
@@RandenMontalvo You just went full fanboy science. Do a little more research and try to gain a better understanding of AWD systems before arguing.
The top end power on the GT500 is breathtaking. Couple that to the lightning fast shifts from the DCT and it becomes hard to process how quickly you get up to speed.
The M8 is good but the GT500 is just impressive
@@yoseeev8306I mean it should be, especially in the straights, since it not only has 143hp more, and also weighs more asw, along with it being rwd, so less % of power lost in the transmission, so a greater proportion of that 760hp actually makes it to the wheels. Very impressive stang indeed
@@_ph4nt0mzz_47 You failed to mention the AWD system on the BMW. That's a great equalizer. More power means nothing, if it can't get it to the ground. Plus, launching the GT500 at 1500 RPM is insanely low.
@@_ph4nt0mzz_47 Weighs more? The Shelby?
What do you mean the BMW is good but...... It's smoke. The five hundred all the five hundred could do was look at his tail lights.@yoseeev8306
That M8 is ridiculous🤩
It’s pretty much German engineering at its finest. 😂
Probably my next toy can't wait
What about a "progress based u-drag" like a last gen GT500 vs your current one?
That's actually a really good idea
Yeah I’d love to see a c7 vs c8 corvette U-drag
@@cashmoneycockburn9502 I'd be interested to see if the last gen z06 could keep up with the stingray. Simply because of how much the z06 struggles with putting it's power down so much.
Stingray to stingray, it would be a pasting of the c7.
That launch on the M8 is lethal. I'd still take the Shelby for half the price and that soundtrack. But a sub 11 second 1/4 mile run is nuts
the gt500 is faster (10.1 quarter), just needs a driver who knows their ass from a hole in the wall
@@freddarau Or, as they said a prepped surface?
@@Steve-yr5vi you can easily fuck up even on a prep surface. The gt500 bogs under 3000 rpm. The launch control should be set to hold 3000 rpm instead of the 1500 they did in the video.
Try a few of those $500 oil changes and see how you feel
@@lanemorrow7417 if youre spending so much on a car, you can guarantee maintenance will be expensive, too
Latest Gen M8/M4/M3 all launch soooo hard. 🚀
Even though the GT500 is traction limited in these recent races, it's always violently chasing them all down. GT500 is a monster of acceleration!
Monster of acceleration but can beat BMW even on rolling start?!?! American manufacturers build cars about numbers but when it's about racing they flops big time
@@s4petti439 I don't doubt there's some truth in your last statement. But how much are you spending on your BMW to take out Ford's most powerful pony? The M4 is AWD and more expensive than the GT500 and isn't beating the Ford anywhere except off the line. The M8 is twice the price and look how close these races are.
@Fmandan77 well the M8 is a luxury car with 2 Tons... it's not really comparable I would say, still a fun drag race
@@Fmandan77the biggest difference is the luxury, clearly you are paying for luxury with the 8 and it still outperforms the more powerful American car in a race.
@@daveaglasgowThis has to be the most ignorant and biased answer.
This set up is absolutely perfect for AWD set ups and absolute dog shit for RWD.
The question isn’t, can it catch the M8… the question is how much roadway does it need to reel it in and gap it.
I don't know about anyone else but im really proud of how consistent that gt500 is
how consistently they lose
@@moderngrub1876 have you watched the same videos I have or you just trolling my guy 🤷
@@moderngrub1876 I've seen only two losses for the GT500 in all their races.
Would really love to see the Porsche cayman GTS. It’s in the same price category of the C8 corvette and also mid engine. Would be cool to see them go head to head. LOVE the U drag races
Cayman gts is 95k corvette is like 70
@@PQ28120in Europe the base c8 costs +120k
@@Steven-re3id it costs Carrera s money in my country
I would love to see a roll race between the GT 500 And the Z06 and also the GT 500 versus this M8 competition. I’m pretty sure the Shelby would smoke both of them. The only reason why both of these cars win is because of the launch with the M8 being all wheel drive, and the Corvette being mid engine. That Shelby was reeling in that m8 so fast it was ridiculous
Keep making these. Their a great undiscovered secret in car comparison
The launch on the m8 is neck breaking😮😮
It REALLY is.
Wow!!! What a race! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
M8: "My brother has been avenged."
Absolutely love this concept. Subscribed immediately.
FANTASTIC RACE GUYS AS EVER--BEST DRAG RACE CHANNEL TOO
I asked for this specific race, thanks for making it happen!
You should've ask for a Cobra Jet vs Hellcat Demon, , those Mopar fans will definitely get scared
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr- On a bare concrete airstrip? Both cars would blow the tires off.
@@danmyers9372 and that Demon will be screaming help me after that Jet leaves 1st degree burns
Would really love to see a Viper ACR vs a C8 Z06.
Ooooo that would be good
As much as I love the ACR.... it would get stomped by the C8 Z06. Less HP, way more drag, manual transmission, dated technology in comparison to the C8.... If there were a few more turns it would be a better fight and the ACR could give it a run for its money.
the viper is going to lose
ACR still does well on tracks. Not so much in drag racing.
Viper ACR came out 8 years ago
I have to say I like this channel, it’s entertaining and you can see how fast the cars are going. Not to name any other channels but I was watching one and you couldn’t really tell if the cars was going 50 mph or up
The M8 SCOOTS of the line 😮💨
It's insane. It almost feels electric in how instantaneous the power hits.
Any xdrive bmw scoots in a dig race, AND their bullshit power #s
Best race format ever
Great video! I love the BMW M8, I am going to get one soon! I would love to see the new Z06 vs the BMW M8 Competition Coupe. Keep up the great work guys, I am loving the U-Drag Race Videos!
I second this, the AWD vs 'mid engine' rwd launch capability and raw power of the c8z would be a nice comparison.
Ford just make it awd I love you but yeah
@chamhadcoler5079 there was a rumor they were going to use a similar variable awd system that's used in a lot of cars. It's less restrictive to be able to disable the front after you get up to speed.
M8 is the best everyday allaround+practical supercar . You can go to a family vacation with that car and enjoy the ride all the time . Like me with my wife and the kid . 500l lugagage space at the rear. What do you need more?
I have a M8 GC, amazing car can only recommend it, perfect daily 🔥
Gotta rename yourself to M-Pilot now 😅
Great job! BMW never get the launch control right on their RWD cars, but with the AWD they did it perfectly!
The M3 is rapid in rear wheel drive
It's called more traction from two extra drive wheels, it has nothing to do with launch control.
Brilliant show best ever 😊thank you very much
M8 is a beast.
I remember when i raced a M8 and i was on my superbike. I remember being very impressed by how fast they picked up and went for their size. Definitely a fast spooling turbo system with a great transmission. Theyre several leagues beyond anything american around their size.
mustang owner here. if you want a better launch from the gt500 leave it in normal mode with traction on and don't use launch control or even brake boost it, just hit the throttle and you should get a good 0-60 almost everytime
Or sell it for a Camaro zl1 🤝🏻
M8 is in the wrong trans setting if you have to shift manually;do everything you did in the vid except put the trans in S3 and it will shift at redline in each gear...UNLESS you lift off the throttle (even slightly) then you will have no choice but to shift manually. You're leaving a lot on the table performance wise(E.T.&MPH)if you don't use S3
Wrong just wrong. Launch control puts the tranny in manual mode. Stop talking like you have a clue.
@@executiveinvestments yes it is, thats the sport transmission mode where it aggressivley shifts for you at the most efficient point.
@@cha7269 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️. Wrong once again. Full throttle has zero effect on transmission mode.
@@cha7269 and no, S is MANUAL mode you turd. Tell me your clueless without actually telling me.
@@executiveinvestments I didn’t say it did? I was just saying there’s diff transmission modes, and he wasn’t in the sport trans mode
The M8’s 1/4 time of 10.8 at 128 matches the current Tesla Model S Long Range (not Plaid)…pretty impressive.
To be fair the M8 is actually as fast as the Model S plaid. They got about the same Nurburgring time. 7:31 vs 7:32
@@prettycoolcat7039 M8 is much better than Plaid actually
@@Smzxe No it's not. M8 is an 11 second car where S Plaid is 9.3.
@@prettycoolcat7039 BMW really delivers in terms of performance.
@@mrb2349 lmao 🤣 quarter mile times doesn't matter nobody goes that fast on streets M8 has much better interior much better engine sound billion times better build quality than trash Tesla's
No, the cars come how they come. Using all the car’s abilities is what should be done. I don’t understand this whole making concessions for the mustang talk in the comments. If it can’t put its power down that’s no one’s fault but the engineers 😅🤷🏾♀️ it makes 0 sense to handicap a car just to make it “fair” nahhh fam nahhh
I could see doing a roll but I agree. The whole format of the race includes the launch. No point gaming it for one car
Agree. If m8 has to run in rwd, then the mustang has to run with 625ps too(which of course impossible)
The GT500 is a track car.
The M8 is not.
An Eray will beat a GT3 in a drag
Doesn't mean that's fair . 😂😂
a m5 cs would also be interesting to see here
vs a M5
It will demolish everything
Wow, that M8 costs twice as much as the GT.
Because everything outside of the drivetrain on the Ford is trash. That's all you're paying for
@@PlayafromtheHimalayasincorrect u give the gt500 a all wheel drive
Game.over
@@snow-uq4gxNo, Ford could never excel as the German engineering.
@hassanger8128 u presenting a seperate argument
Again u give the gt500 all wheel drive
Game over
Also all wheel drive is not German engineering 💩
@@hassanger8128there's nothing special about German engines lol and they lie about the power and weight of their cars. there interiors are only better. When Germans make the same power to weight ratio as American they always lose.
M8 launches like a damn rocket without a hiccup. Bmw matched the transmission, awd, and launch control all in a perfect order 😋 Thats very very impressive.
More UDrags! Love it!
Looks like two mustangs racing because that BMW has a similar profile to the stang. Great race.
Would love to see a U Drag race between the GR Supra and Nissan Z 🏁
Supra wins! Period!
The Nismo is coming next year for about the same money as the Supra 3.0, but this time has more hp, improved suspension, lighter weight, more aggressive gearing, better tires, etc.
@@ytsux9259would be best to save the Nismo Z for a matchup with the GRMN Supra (if it ever actually comes out!).
@@ytsux9259Supra GRMN shares the same S58 engine fitted on M4 CS..i can say the Nismo stands no chance...s58 is a masterpiece of engineering art.
No competition. Supra FTW
A m8 doing a 10 sec. 1/4 mile is nuts.
Well, it's AWD. Not surprising
Proper drivers have gone 10.6 @ 135 in the 500s
@@yusufgta4341so wtf does awd have to do with it? So all awd cars have to be fast right?
@@yusufgta4341ur so mad fanboi. 150hp less and 150lbs heavier and smoked the 500. What’s that an 11.4 1/4 mile? Pathetic. 🤭🤭🤭🤭
@executiveinvestments Yeah. AWD have a traction advantage so they're going to be faster accelerating.
Loved this format of racing.
Always a good video. I would have loved to have seen a "blooper" run where you spun the mustang wheels to 100mph.
Traction trumps power, in this case. 760 hp means nothing in a sprint like this if you can't put it to the ground. That M8 is an amazing car.
500s have gone 10.6s @ 135mph with competent drivers
This is merely one day and one outcome. The 500s are simply more powerful
@@chadkent1241 oh no doubt. Just saying in this particular case, on an unprepared surface, the AWD is gonna have the advantage.
Without awd the M8 isn't putting
It to the ground either
@@WindyCity1992 like I said...traction trump's power in this case.
@@WindyCity1992That's why it is perfectly engineered to be an AWD
M8 almost 160k
GT500 81K
I was literally shocked at the slinky buses the m8 pulled ahead on the start! Crazy! I would have expected a Plaid to do something like that.
I am German and own a M340i which is almost a perfect car. I recently travelled to California and rent a Mustang convertible from Hertz. Hertz added Shelby parts - most importantly the exhaust😮 Fun and Emotion wise the Mustang is much better than my M340i. The Emotion with the BMW comes when you really push it to its limits. Then xou realize what fantastic xar it is. But you will find rare occacasions to drive like a maniac, especially in the US with the speed limits
I'd love to see the Shelby GT500 with the Carbon Fiber Track Package.
Bruh shut up
The cup 2 would be a bigger handicap on that surface, not enough time to get any heat in them. Plus it's slower with the aero. Road course would be a different story between the two 500's.
@@DonkeyEvo CFTP is actually CUP2 R's. And sure the launch might not be much better, but the braking and handling would be much improved. Plus this isn't high enough speeds for long enough for aero to really drag it down.
@matt0198922 that is not true, you need to check your facts on the tires, They are cup2's. You can check for yourself, they'll be cup 2's with FP on the sidewall... as far as aero, wickers and rear wing better be doing something at 140+, mph or they are completely pointless..
@@DonkeyEvo Yes, it IS Cup 2 R tires. And I said that they're not going high speed FOR LONG ENOUGH. Sure, a 1 mile drag would matter, but in this race they're slowing down just as they hit significant speeds.
You're right. However, when I look at the trap speed on the return, the Shelby had a higher trap speed than the M8 Also generally speaking, a rolling race will be more appropriate when AWD is put up against RWD IMO....even the playing field a little bit :)
GT500 had its chance on the straightaway. I prefer the GT500 but it’s giving up too much on the launch
Great! keep em coming
With some of these u drags, a theme becomes apparent. When you're in a talent and traction limited setting (99% of us aren't pro drivers), AWD is a massive massive advantage in all phases of hooning your car, save for from a roll. That's important to remember since 99% of the "racing" you'll do against someone else on the streets will be from a roll.
Didn’t look like a real hard launch from the M8 we have seen that car buck and spin do to how brutal and fast the launches are I have honk if Matt Watson from Carwow was driving it would have been a much larger gap.
Launch control is not supposed to induce wheel spin. It’s no skill full computer controlled efficiency.
It doesn't get any better than that launch in the second race. It hooked and booked. And I hate to burst your bubble, but Matt Watson is not a professional driver. I've see him blow far more launches than he's perfected. His only saving grace is when he gets behind the wheel of an AWD car.
2:53 - if he was any closer to the steering wheel he'd be kissing the windshield!
That's the way to do it!
Man I love these videos
Great race!!
Wow, look at the leaderboard. Cars keep getting quicker and faster each year. I'm pretty sure one day these leaderboards will be at 200 mph finish speeds.
Yooooo. That mustang pulls😳
Love these
on certain models of BMW turning of DSC actually turns off sport mode though for launch control I believe you're supposed to have it off. But that could be why launch mode might actually be slower than not using it.
The BMW is brutal but for the money I’m going with Shelby all day long
Good luck hugging a tree or crowd
@@hassanger8128too be fair BMW is up there with terrible drivers. Most of their buyers are pompous asshats that cut you off and don’t use blinkers on the highway… and crash, but just my two cents.
I have owned both and there is no comparison. The build quality on the Shelby is crap.
so your gonna spend more and get a shelby? the m8 slightly used is 80-100k.
@@hassanger8128
Dude, that joke is older than the dinosaurs. You’re lame.
I'd love to see the M5CS up against the M8
Great job!
I love U-Drags man! I wish we had that track on Assetto Corsa!
I want to see them udrag the plaid with the track pack!!!
Tough to beat awd. Would be more interesting half mile.
Here we go, half mile, then mile, etc
That would not be interesting at all lol. We all know that the GT500 would beast the M8 in a half with all its high end torque
@blazeboy6634 yes but by how much 🤔
Need to see a Carbon Fiber Track Pack GT500 in these soon.
Great race
That M8 is no joke.
Kurt is a demon on the brakes. That Mustang was squirming under hard braking. I would still buy the Mustang GT 500.
I have been introduced to the wonderful world of U-drags.
Welcome aboard!
U-Drag is cool. Throw in some awesome cars from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and 2000's to U-Drag each other!!!
That old guy is such a beast of a driver lol my dsm would 110% break and I have welded diffs so forget turning but I'd love to see one of the shop Evos we have do a U-drag
breaks my heart💔 everytime i see the shelby go down😢
AWD cars have an advantage
Yeah…but in a world where electric cars are simultaneously quicker and less fun than everything, true thrill machines like the GT500 (all of the generations) will always be desirable and fun.
What else would you expect from a company making rainbow trucks?
1200 rpm launch in the 500 was a waste….
It didn't go down, was $77,000 less without massive BMW depreciation
um just search youtube and recreate every drag race out there😅but u-drag is so engaging and entertaining. I'm invested in the races bcus its like those other types of drag races dont matter, like just look at the 0-60-100 and you'll know which car will win. but u-drag is different, its great.
That was a great race. AWD and smoother acceleration from the start definitely saved the BMW from the fire breathing GT500. That Shelby is an incredible car!!!
Would love to see this race from a 40 roll
That wouldn't be a race
40 to what?? 40-140 wouldnt be a race. 40-160 might be close though.
@@RS7evenSLDR same race, just not from a dig
Why ? You're just salty gt500 lost. What do you expect to happen on a roll with 150hp difference
@@snowman2834 Why not?
That GT500 went wide in the U-Turn in that first race.
Yeah. No offense, but neither of these guys are good drivers. They said they drive cars for a living? They mean they talk about cars for a living. Lol.
Great analysis !
Can you guys make a Camaro ZL1 vs Gt500?
A ZL1 has no chance against the gt500. Lots of videos on RUclips to back that.
If y'all have the track length, would you consider doing standing mile or half mile runs?
The bigger issue is how much faster that length allows the cars to go, which leads to greater safety concerns. You never know though!
I agree. I think you should do at least a 1/2 mile. I believe in you guys!
@@edmundscars 1/2 mile would be nice to let the cars stretch their legs. Really shows off the hp difference rather than which car launches better
992 Turbo s vs. Z06
992 Gt3 vs. Shelby Gt350
992 Carerra S vs. Stingray vette
Those will be gooood match-ups to see next. Make it happen U-drags!!!😊
I would love to see a mk7 Golf R vs mk3 Audi TTS go at it.
or other race that i think would be good to see
is the corvette C8 z06 vs m8 competition
How old are the tires on the GT500? New tires won’t save it against the M8 AWD but just curious since the GT500 has done multiple races on the channel.
Keep crying for your American muscle
This is one of the best test I have ever seen, the M8 is just like the Mustang, very similar exterior design. Very close in proportion and size. To me the Mustang is the best value, the difference in this test is that the M8 has all wheel drive and that gives it the edge at the start, but in the end the numbers are clear, the Mustang crosses the line just 1/10th of a second later, but at over 10 mph faster, that shows how fast it closes the gap between them.
Again, very similar cars one costs almost twice more than the other and very similar performance.
Not twice more, a 2 door M8C is probably around 135k-140K, the GT500 is just over 100k I think. Except in reality you can still get an M8C for an MSRP, good luck getting the GT500 for less then 150K, much more limited car to buy.
Cool test
This is brilliant
I’d like to see that GT500 vs the last gen GT500. That would be interesting.
Need this
The M8 will go through all the gears on its own if you use launch control properly. You must be in manual to launch it, and it will change the gears on its own in manual when in launch mode...
Facts. In Fact, It is better to let the car shift, as the transmission shifts very fast and the AWD is near flawless.
@@executiveinvestments No, the car shifts on its own after launch, ONLY when you let off the gas pedal it'll switch to manual mode. Launch control is the only time the car shifts automatically despite being in S3. I have an M5C so I know.
@executiveinvestments Yes S3 it's the most aggressive or dynamic setting for transmission in manual mode, in automatic mode it's D3. You can set it D1, D2, D3, S1, S2, S3. For launch control the transmission needs to be in S3. Dumbass.
That M8 Comp. Is jus mad crazy!!! 😭🔥
Love the idea, i have only seen one other channel do this every now and then! However…. I no drag… I race!
It sure would be nice if you guys were able to put the cars you test on the same dyno and give us the crank and wheel HP numbers, it would kind of put 2 variables to rest, and there are others like tires, but i guess that's for a perfect world. In either case, both of them are fast. Switching drivers and lanes eliminates 2 other variables. Great reviews.
Yes that would be more accurate. Especially with the likes of BMW , Porsche. They under rate the true power of their vehicles.
TRX vs Raptor R please 🙏
I would love to see that on a U-drag. Excellent idea!
Thank you i was of the people who complained last time the M8 comp is a bit closer to the shelby gt500 though its like a 100hp down on power bt im happy
The xdrive is the winner
Trap speed reveals hp.
Predator > Bavarian
@@chadkent1241 The Predator engine is worth more then the entire BMW company. its not even a contest. best part is that it doesnt even make the top 5 best ford engines
The comeback of that GT500 was unreal!!!!!
Hey Edmunds, I have a Porsche 992 911 Turbo S and a 2023 Audi S8 that you guys can use for a U-Drag.
Golf R vs Type R next?
Great video. I enjoy these videos. Next race, BMW M3 comp xDrive vs Mercedes AMG C63 E Performance.
That M8 is sick 10.8 😱
I'd like to see the models plaid with the new track package.