FRANK ZAPPA - "THE ADVENTURES OF GREGGERY PECCARY" (reaction)
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Who is making those new brown clouds? Billy the Mountain. And a mountain is something you don’t want to fuck with.
Never thought about it before this, but I wonder if "Billy the Mountain" might have been an absurdist take on the inertia of innocent stupidity.
And don't fuck with Ethel.
@@SalamaSond When it came out in 1972 there was still conscription in the US and I was personally looking into Canadian citizenship at the time. I always imagined the song had something to do with the anti war anti draft movement and Billy and Ethyl represented that.
You saw what just happened to that guy with the flies ....
Who else but Frank can make you laugh with really good, intense music. Who else would even try. As a little kid you are introduced to "Peter and the Wolf" to instruct you on the instrumentation and emotion of an orchestra. This is that .
You guys are going deep with Frank, it’s great to see. Yes, this one is definitely a cartoon for the ears (and a thought provoking and fun story). The music is absolutely insane yet it makes sense somehow!
during the solo in Inca Roads, Greggery Peccary is in the claymation sequence by Bruce Bickford
By The Way..... I'm not sure but I THINK that you guys are the ONLY guys on youtube to sit through this 26 minute long masterpiece. It takes a certain amount of respectable patience to sit still and listen to that much heavy concept stuff for so long... it's true that the complexity is disguised by a Cartoon feel... but it's a thin disguise. When it get's serious... it's fucking serious. So if I'm correct... you're in a group of ONE. Which is pretty cool... I think.
Awesome! Thanks Chris!
You two looked bewildered when the song ended. Speechless! We get that a lot in Zappa land. 😂
This Is pure,pure,pure Genius,thanks sooooooooooo much my friend Frank Zappa soooooooooo great musician and composer and a very,very,very special man, greetings from Treviso Italy
Greetings Luciano! Glad you enjoyed!
More than 40 years ago I lent this record to my English teacher for comments. He said that his family forced him two wear headphones, and even his teenage children couldn't stand the "dreadful noise". My teacher, though, faithfully listened to it and gave me his honest opinion which was not at all dreadful. I guess that is why I still keep him in a good memory
probably the greatest composer of the 20th century...
with out a doubt!
definitely, not probably
Absolutely, along with Philip Glass.
FZ stood on the shoulders of the giants who came before him. Ravel, Bartok, Varese, Stravinsky, Boulez, Stockhausen. Ligeti, Xenakis, Penderecki, and Takemitsu. To his credit he loved and understood their language and contributed to modern music with his own superb compositions.
@@reidwhitton6248 that's the story of humanity isn't it? Aren't we all building upon what our predecessors did? True artists take what is there and transform it with their unique signature, hopefully laying the groundwork for the next evolution.
cartoonesque/orchestral/seemingly off the cuff lyrics but often quite deep/great musicanmanship and compositional qualities/fun/humour/lots of genres mixed, sometimes being played simultaneously/conceptual continuity (Billy the Mountain). All this and more. Frank does more in this one song than many famous big bands did in a whole career. Without the aid of drugs. His mind was awesome.
@soup n old clothes The English psycho, who thought he was "looking at his girlfriend"?
The music is astonishing, but I’m laughing very, very hard, I can assure you. Sped up vocals, serial classical music, pop culture, etc. He was so on it. Thanks for even considering this musical marathon.
@soup n old clothes I did, of course!
@soup n old clothes I think the record artwork is great, even if Frank didn’t approve.
This song was originally an orchestral piece. The story popped into his head and he made something pretty good of the union of the two. BTW Billy the mountain has his own song ala this one. It’s on the album Just Another Band From L. A. It’s also long but with a more rock feel.
Frank never thought of his group as a band, they were an orchestra, Frank would be found several times during a show with a little baton conducting his orchestra, all of the comments are from true and loyal Zappa fans. Keep on digging there so many great works.it would take you my lifetime to hear it all. I'm 68yrs old been listening to Frank since 1966. Enjoy the trip.❤️👍👍👍
Yes Ruth on percussion and George Duke on keyboards.
Pieces like this truly set Zappa apart from the crowd. It's generally a rock opera mockury with a considerably sophisticated, non-repeating story and orchestration. It's also interlaced with jazz, rock ditties, and musique concrete. Zappa makes musical references to Herbie Hancock's Chameleon during the "very hip young people" section, John Cage when they have their radios tuned to different stations, even refers to the TV show My Three Sons during the honky-tonk piano section. Not something you're going to go to often, but it's certainly interesting for a few go throughs.
Yeah, it's a weird piece, like Billy the Mountain. They should do Thing Fish. That would blow their minds.
Yup, something YOU’RE not going to go to often ;)
@@bubblerap7176 Are they ready for Briefcase Boogie?
@@bubblerap7176 I'd love to see their faces as they watch Thing Fish. 😄
I love watching both of your expressions! As a life long Zappa fan, I feel like I’m rediscovering many of these songs all over again. Bring on Billy The Mountain! Thank you!
Thanks for watching Joseph!
Loved your reactions. You definitely wouldn't want this to be your first Zappa reaction. The fact that you have listened to a wealth of his material prepared you for this experience. Pray continue. Love you guys.
Frank said it was a “cartoon for the ears.”
100 percent!
The "establishment" got kicked in the pants ,again. Classic zappa style
Hahaha you did it! I love the silence at the end. You are officially nearing the bottom of the rabbit hole but you’re not there yet. Billy the Mountain is like a sister song to this. Way to be so open minded and find something to enjoy. I loved it!
Studebaker Hawk!
"We have got the answers to the things that might bothering you. We have got your little toys, we're busy making them, busy making them, just for you." - Big Swifty
The brown clouds is reference to a track from the 1971 "Just another band from L.A. album where one side is Billy the Mountain, a mountain that one day decides to collect the royalties from all the picture postcards that have been sold with him in it, lol.
I have been listening to Frank since the early seventies and he always is my go to muscician and composer. During watching your videos I noticed that over the years I started to get a bit blase about his music. Seeing your reactions and hearing you talk about his music relighted my fire. I can not thank you enough for that. I'm rediscovering my hero one vid at a time
Thanks so much for watching!
The music was originally going to be the soundtrack to a piece of animation by Bruce Bickford that was never finished. Bits and pieces of that animation have turned up here and there on various other Zappa video projects, especially in his 1979 concert film Baby Snakes.
That makes sense! Would’ve loved to have seen the finished product
Actually, work had begun on a claymation movie for this with Bruce Bickford. A couple of scenes were completed and have found their way into various movies, like the car chase scene, the pile of transistor radio exists, as do the hippies with their LSD eyes, Greggery himself exists, too. But it never got finished. Sadly.
I'm 61 and I've been listening to Zappa since I was 15. At the time of my passage to the net 2003 I threw myself on all that Zappa and others, made available. I would have liked to choose and where to laugh the archives from. Music tracks are very important to me.
HEY GUYS...Here's another conceptual continuity...THING. On the album cover ABSOLUTELY FREE..(.the second album by FZ)... if you look carefully... there is a small red volkswagen rolling down the street with one word written above it..."Vdnn!!!" That album is from 1967... this album is from 1978, and a large part of this music was the music played during the Petite Wazoo shows (in 1972 and 73 )and also appeared in an abbreviated version with Jean Luc Ponty... however... ALWAYS instrumental, and in fragments... this is the one place where all the elements of Greggary Peccary finally came together how Frank saw it in his mind.
Frank said for many years that THIS was his favorite piece of music that he ever made.
Iwas very happy watching you guys react to this... it's a looooooong song.
Pretty sure it was Ruth, and George Duke on Keys AND Walt Fowler on MOST of the horns. And now.... someone MUST request Billie The Mountain... WHICH WILL PREPARE THEM FOR fillmore live 71
Check out ;Just another Band from L.A. b side Billy the Mountain
This piece belongs more in the realms of avant garde classical music with references to some of his early works like "Big Swifty" and "Billy The Mountain". Jst one more lengthy Frank Zappa masterpiece. Looking forward to more and more of your reactions to Frank.
So many times people are amazed in Genesis recording Suppers Ready. Greggery Peccary was just 2 years later.
At about 5:20 they sing about "Big Swifty and Associates" from the Waka Jawaka album - even get a few measures of Big Swifty. At 7:00 Zappa even wrote the strikes for the 3 typewriters. And "Who is making these new brown clouds", 16:30 was another example from the album. Billy the Mountain at 12:30 from Just Another Band from LA. The Toads of the Short Forest. Yet another reference from an earlier album.
You mentioned Frank's compositional ability. This was just one side of one album that was originally to be released as a 4 album box set (later released as Lather) and to complete his contract with Warner Bros. They wouldn't accept it, and released 4 seperate albums , most compiled without Frank's approval, to keep Frank tied to Warner Bros. That's why you got that narrative on Titties and Beer about the Warner Bros legal dept, lol
If you really dig into the history by looking at contemporary Zappa interviews, it turns out that the separate records came first and were re-edited into Lather after Warner Bros had rejected them. Frank had dropped off the masters for Zappa In New York, Studio Tan, Orchestral Favorites, and Hot Rats III (which was renamed Sleep Dirt by Warner Bros) at the same time, which the suits took as him trying to try to get out of his contract quickly by submitting four rush jobs. Of course, that wasn't the truth, as they all hold up very well as albums. Frank sued them for breach of contract and signed with Mercury/Phonogram and only at that point did Lather come into being.
@@buddygripple7512, from Frank's own mouth, they were delivered to Warner Bros as a 4 album box set and already, so Frank said, called Lather.
If you really dig deep into the history by looking at contemporary Zappa interviews, you would know this, lol. Check this link out then maybe an apology for trying to show someone up is in order! lol. ruclips.net/video/5KFwtbI9NUE/видео.html
Have a nice day.
@@paulfenwick8767 "Warner Bros. [...] released one album called Live In New York, and they just released another one down there called Studio Tan, and they have two more albums that I delivered to them, Hot Rats III and Zappa Orchestral Favorites. [...]
Läther was made out of four albums. Warners has released two of them already and they have two more that they're probably gonna release." - Frank Zappa interviewed by Keith Elshaw, CFNY, Toronto, Canada, October 2, 1978
@@buddygripple7512, lol, pity that because in December 1977, Zappa, on KROQ radio, Frank brought in the 4 albums, which he encouraged listeners to tape for free which he himself called "Lather"
Also, if you've ever seen "Baby snakes", filmed Oct 1977, a fan sends a note to Frank, which he reads out "Play some Lather". Either that fan was a visionary, lol, or, for Frank, "Lather" already existed!!
Doesn't matter what Warner Bros did, isn't this about what came first, Zappa creating a quadrouple album called "Lather" or what Warner Bros did.
Lather came first. Just move on and get over it, lol.
Oh man! One of the best thing ever, especially as a kid without tv after midnight!! Thank you so much.... Our bass player used to whip out the "Brown Cloud Theme" in the middle of songs at least once a gig, and we all would wait for it! This whole album, hope you get to it all, personally, I think my favorite, which is a huge thing to say in Zappa'a world. Much appreciated!
Glad you enjoyed the video Robert! It was our pleasure!
"It's a movie for your ears"---F. Zappa
That silence was priceless LOL
My favorite part is the jazz-waltz in the middle, "Thiiiiiiis is Big Swiiifty's" which was originally part of an older piece called "Farther Oblivion" that you guys would love. Frank was fortunate enough to play these pieces with larger ensembles on a few occasions, most notably the Grand Wazoo tour from 1972 featuring a 20 piece band!
Thanks Tim!
I loved the silence after the hearing. ;)
I still enjoy watching Dan's spot on Zoolander facial expressions as they listen to Zappa😙
Lol he wishes he was Zoolander!
"The Eons Are Closing!" The Adventures of Greggery Peccary is most definitely a Zappa conceptual continuity masterpiece.. FZ played this (a different version no less) on WPLR (Connecticut) in 1975 and said it wasn't the kind of tune you'd want to do the dishes to. Nonetheless, this commercial rock station did play all 20 minutes of it and as a kid of 14 listening to this work thoroughly blew me away. And I loved Warner Bros. cartoon music! It's interesting to note that on the version played in 1975 there was extended "Philostopher" dialog that went in tandem to the musical events happening from 18:10 - 20:07. Don't know why FZ took that out. It really added to the clap trap of some guy trying to sell you on registering for some philosophy class. In fact, it was originally Quentin Robert DeNameland greatest living "two headed" "philostopher" known to mankind. Pretty wild, imaginative composition. FZ worked on the music for a bunch of years eventually solidifying most of it in 1972 (as it was played live with his Petit Wazoo Band). Here is some more background on it: ruclips.net/video/3Y-BkmZdjo4/видео.html
@Bookhouse Boy Unfortunately it is not.
When I first heard this one I mostly found it kind of overwhelming but it’s really grown on me. FZ was originally interested in being a classical composer, and this song in some ways feels more like a classical piece, but made easier to digest with all the cartoony stuff - plus some jazz elements too! It really feels like a very ambitious mixup of different genres, which is in some ways what zappa’s music was all about exploring
Absolutely!
He was without a doubt a classical composer and will be taught in the music schools of the near future
You two are a gift. I look forward to everything you're doing. You seem to get his stuff without any orientation to the time, too.
Thanks so much Matt! Glad you like the videos!
It takes 100 years of life to get an idea of the notes Frank was putting on paper at that time. "Music comes from composers!" (FZ).
Frank heard Close To The Edge and said, “Oh yeah, I can do that!”
Most of this was instrumental music for the Wazoo (Great and Petit) outfits in 1972. So he toured with this music. This is not either group, this is Bruce Fowler and Ruth Underwood and others a few yrs later, I'm not sure when these sessions occur. I think it would be parts of it over years, actually.
Studio Tan was released behind FZ's back, it's hard to know what happened, no liner notes.
I’ve always considered this a song for hardcore Zappa fans. You seem to be assembling a nice collection of them here on your RUclips channel.
I love this piece but apart from my wife I’ve never been able to get anyone to sit through the whole thing with me.
You guys did well.
For a nice contrast to this, you should flip the vinyl and drop the stylus on Lemme take you to the beach. I’m not a dancer but it always makes me wanna get up and move.
Keep up the good work and like most others are saying,
Bring on Billy The Mountain.👍
One of the most purely Frank tunes of all.
Matt Groening of Simpson's fame loves Zappa. Ian Anderson from Jethro Tull was heavily influenced by Zappa. George Duke, Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, you could keep going. Albums with Tina Turner singing back-up? Frank is going to go down as one of the greatest cultural icons.
Big silent smile.
Frank was so pissed that WB screwed with this collection and split the 4 albums into separate releases - some with cover art Frank didn't approve before printing and release - that he went on an LA radio station, played all 4 LPs and encouraged people to record them and not give WB their money. Prince was not the first performer to think WB sucked. There's a live album from like '78 where Frank just plain says 'WB sucks'. This is a great song though, I love it.
This is one of the Frank albums that I had in my collection. I have listened to this in the triple digits. Something about it kept me coming back again and again and again. You may find yourself remembering parts of it and thinking I want to hear this again. And again and again.
Studio Tan was the first of 3 releases, in rapid succession, to get out from under his contract with Warner Bros, after he successfully sued them. Next came Sleep Dirt, and Orchestral Favorites. Very unlike FZ, these albums contained no information whatsoever, as far as personnel, recording dates, etc. A lot of fans didn't care for them, but I loved them all. Thanks.
If you're curious about the Billy the Mountain reference, check out the Just Another Band from L.A. album.
One cannot fully appreciate the section about Billy the Mountain, maker of the brown clouds, without having heard "Billy the Mountain" from the live "Just Another Band from LA" album featuring Flo and Eddy. It's another cartoon adventure for the mind that just goes to show, and it will show you once again, that a mountain is something you don't want to fuck with
I remember when I got this album and the best way to listen to this track, you prepare yourself to do nothing, and make sure your alone, and of course you must have a very good stereo system, at approximately 40 percent of maximum volume, make sure you are straight ( no alcohol, etc) and totally relaxed, and if you have the opportunity, try the original vinyl ( or the zft cd release) when starting the track, sit comfortably still in a comfortable chair 💺, and listen all the way through, and don't do anything while this is playing ( don't even have a sip of water like Dan does during these videos) just let yourself experience this track, but you must use focus, in order to hear the music and the developmental stages of the piece, if you follow all this, you should feel exhausted by the end, and that means you absorbed it all, ( I forgot to mention that I close my eyes for the entire piece, it is optional, but I feel more high doing this) afterwards you can ponder everything for awhile, my personal favorite thing to do after listening to this masterpiece, is to go to bed and sleep, frank was the best
Black napkins and so much great material thank you
Oh yessssssss!! Thumbs up already clicked.... I'm sure it will be awesome!
Take it away Frank!
congrats to your patreons.... they have been slowly preparing you for this Adventures.........
so many references... i liked the little "the who"-piano-quote (26:56 - i think from "tommy").
Yes!
It's hard not to smile at this story. And the horn section is very overwhelming, in a kind of Grand Wazoo way. Enjoyable little radio play. There's more to enjoy from this album, with instrumentals only in "Revised Music For Guitar & Low Budget Orchestra" and "Redunzl" (with more of Ruth's marimba!).
Thanks Bob!
Hooray, what a nice surprise to wake up to - I've been waiting for this one!
Reminds me of radio theater
For yourselves you should watch "200 Motels". It isn't really suitable for first listens unless you do the whole thing, so just treat yourselves. I mean, you get Keith Moon in a nun's outfit and Ringo Starr acting as Frank Zappa. And the London Philharmonic Orchestra. Best "road" movie ever.
But, if you want another long story song similar to this? "Billy The Mountain". An absolute classic.
And then there's "Thingfish", his "off-broadway" production. Heh-heh.
Blessings.
200 Motels turns 50 in the first week of Oct.
Thanks!
At 12.23 and at 16.00 there are examples of conceptual continuity in Frank's music. The mention of a mountain with a cave half way up and a little tree growing off of it's shoulder, references the story track Billy The Mountain, from the Mothers Live Filmore East June 1971 album.
From the same album, check out Revised Music For Guitar and Low Budget Orchestra. It's a beautiful piece.
Gregory Peck was a famous leading man back in the 70s. Just the name of this tune makes me chuckle.
@Jim Carlson - Peck was most active from the '40s through the '60s.
Funny how Greggery thinks that the "new brown clouds" are some kind of cool trend and not just airborne dust.
You guys just made my night.
Thanks for watching!
'Big swifty and associates' 😁
Aural picture making. Genius work, not for everyone. Reminds me of the Air Force barracks I once lived in. Peace.
Thank you for your service!
Yep, I would call it a "tone poem," a classical music term for an orchestral piece that is meant to evoke a story. Frank was into a lot of contemporary avantgarde classical music (I always hear echoes of Stravinsky and Prokofiev in this piece - but tempered with a bunch of Frank-style musical joke-stuff). As for cartoons - some of the claymation clips that turn up in some of Frank's videos/films illustrate actual bits of Greggery Peccary - like the car chase for example - I believe that clip shows up in a live performance video of Inca Roads that I *think* you reacted to at some point. Cheers!
Gerggary Peccary is a record company executive and any like ilk who Frank hates . This was actually written in the 60’s and is an absolute masterpiece of tape manipulation. {-
Indeed!
greggery peccary, my favourite imaginary musical world to reside in , i love this side of zappa, like uncle meat ,weasels ripped my flesh ans 200 motels , he had a big influence on my musical life,they most have been laughing their asses of making this , thank you Mr Zappa
I really would like to see this animated.
Check out "The Adventures of Greggery Peccary (edit attempt)" here on RUclips. It's stop motion clay animation from award-winning animator Bruce Bickford. The video was pieced together from clips from the movie Baby Snakes. It's pretty cool.
Yes it's his magus opus
A little twisted tree with eyes on it... followed by the jingle from billy the mountain lol
I'd like to think that Frank was watching TV one evening, saw an ad for an Air Hockey game, wondered to himself, "Who the fuck thinks these things up?" . . . then ponders the emergence of TRENDS in general, his imagination going hog-wild (figuratively AND literally), so that he dreams up a sinister building with an office in it where the people who work there think up all the waste-of-time things and fads and trends that so many people in society allow to dominate their minds. It practically writes itself -- but only if your a crazy genius like Frank.
A word of advice: next time you have to fart, and you're in the presence of other people, just let 'er rip and then sing, 🎵"Who is ma-a-aking those new brown clouds? Who is ma-a-aking those clouds these days?" etc. 😜
😂
I love listening to that track and never more than while watching you two enjoy it too. Have you got the Zappatite for Billy the Mountain soon? We will ask the philostopher and see what he says!
Billy the Mountain from Just Another Band From L.A.
I knew you would be surprised. I thought what was going through his mind when he wrote this . You guys are first to react to this song.good job.
Thanks!
This is a true gem.
Shout out to Dan for wearing a Dweezil Zappa tee shirt!
Good eye!
A prime example of conceptual continuity. The song is laced with small quick references to other songs both his and of other's. The mention that Greggory works at Big Swifty Inc. is a reference to his composition called Big Swifty that comprises a full side of the album Waka/Jawaka (1972). New Brown Clouds is a small segment found inside of his composition For Calvin (And His Next Two Hitch-Hikers) from the Grand Wazzo album (1972). Billy The Mountain, like Greggory Peccary, is a complete story song that comprises a full side of a vinyl album, in this case Just Another Band From LA (1972). There are a number of other musical references the easiest to spot possibly is the riff to Louie Louie.
Here's another bit of information for those curious about the timeline of his music. Although released in Set. of 1978, the track Greggory Peccary (not all of the Studio Tan album) as well as all of the tracks on the album Orchestral Favorites (released in May 1979) were recorded during a three day period, September 17-19, 1975 at Royce Hall on the UCLA campus with conductor Michael Zearott. There were 2 nights of live concert performances and an additional day of recording sessions without the audience.
@Marc Ribe - Greggery was constructed from recordings at 3 locations.
Caribou Ranch, Nederland, Colorado
December, 1974
FZ-guitar
George Duke-keyboards
Ruth Underwood-percussion, synthesizer?
Chester Thompson-drums
The Record Plant
January 3-14, 1975
FZ-guitar, vocals
George Duke-keyboards, vocals?
John Berkman-piano
Michael Zearott-piano
Pamela Goldsmith-viola
Murray Adler-violin
Sheldon Sanov-violin
Jerry Kessler-cello
Edward Meares-bass
Bruce Fowler-trombone
Don Waldrop-trombone
Jock Ellis-trombone
Dana Hughes-bass trombone
Earle Dumler-oboe
JoAnn Caldwell McNab-bassoon
Mike Altschul-woodwinds
Graham Young-trumpet
Jay Daversa-trumpet
Malcolm McNab-trumpet
Ray Reed-flute
Victor Morosco-sax
John Rotella-woodwinds
Alan Estes-percussion
Emil Richards-percussion
Tom Fowler-bass
Chester Thompson-drums
Royce Hall, UCLA
September 17-19, 1975
Abnuceals Emuukha Electric Symphony Orchestra
i love this ... you guys are "wow ... nuts ... that thing "
and in the comments its all divisions of support for philosophers and musicians screaming about how HARD it is to write this
and all that crazy stuff
I would seriously consider donating a kidney if it could result in a team of brilliant animators creating a visual production to go along with this as its soundtrack.
Think of the little things: like when Frank the Narrator describes Greggary going up in an elevator to the 83rd Floor -- and the music complements it by a wild rising crescendo ending with a >BING!< You can practically SEE either a glass-elevator in some vast enclosed lobby zipping up up UP to a cartoonish rebounding stop at the 83rd Floor, OR maybe a clockwise arrow-dial starting at the Lobby and spinning wildly but then stopping on a too-big #83, the arrow-dial quivering like an arrow that has just been shot into a target . . . crazy visuals like that. I would LOVE to see this bizarre little story rendered into an animated short film. Whether they used digital animation like in a Pixar production, or as an old-school hand-drawn animated type of show -- like "THE POINT" (with the song "Me and My Arrow" -- seek it out if you've never seen it before) or an old Ralph Bakshi movie (from before his "Lord of the Rings" adaptation). Think of how visually bonkers that clay animation was for Zappa's "Inca Roads" video; I'm pretty sure that Frank allowed that animator to just go wild interpreting the song with those crazy visuals. It'd be cool to see what a team of talented animators -- who are also Zappa enthusiasts -- could make out of this, "The Adventures of Greggary Peccary"!
Frank NEVER disappoinks...but what IS the poink? There is no poink but the journey itself, imhohohahahrmph.
A minute or two into this I was thinking "Carl Stalling", the only composer of accompaniment for surreal early cartoons I could think of. An ODDyssey, for sure, a total trip, a sign to many of us back in "the Day"(!) that Frank was seriously high most of the time, 'til you come down and realize it ain't necessarily your most productive time or headspace, revelatory of who knows what as it might've seemed. 200 Motels also comes to mind. What a phenomenal musical mind. Hugely enjoyable journey, Sifa And Dan, sad it's over for now, looking forward to more. Cheers. ;>D
I will also join the calls recommending Billy the Mountain.
As great as this song is, Dan's physical reactions throughout it just made it better. And Sifa, even you could not maintain that stoic pose that is you hallmark (don't get me wrong, I love it, it's almost like a comedy duo with you as the straight woman) ;-) It is an opus, pity you have not heard Billy the Mountain first, he made an appearance in this story that would have been even funnier if you knew it. Sifa, as to your assertion that GP is us, Frank has a lyric in a very old song of his that answers that, 'You think we're talking bout someone else...' That sort of sums it up, and as I said before, his musical genius overshadows his true mastery of language. The man could tell a story...
Glad you enjoyed!
YES!!!!!!
Go check out its prequel…Billy the Mountain (from Just Another Band from LA)
Billy the mountain!👍
"The eons are closing"
To understand the New Brown Clouds you need to listen to Billy the Mountain from Just Another Band From LA
Gosh, OMG. I don't think I've heard this since the mid '70s. Word of the day: Trendmonger; too true! Our minds have been expanded! Or, something.
OK. Greggery is silly. So is Peccary. Gosh. Gosh, that studio tan is everywhere (...did my check bounce, then?) ... ... more ... ?
It goes to Frank's genius that this IMMENSELY minor piece is nevertheless a far greater piece of music than anyone produced in the century just past or this one. It was just something in his vault he was forced to turn over to the record company in settlement of what kept him bound to them contractually, yet there's not a composer on this planet for whom this would not have been their crowning achievement. Frank, meanwhile, wasn't even going to release it. He was astonishing.
@Sublime Music Channel - Actually, Frank spent a year putting Greggery together the way he wanted and it was definitely going to released.
YAAAAASSSS! THANK YOU, FRIENDS!!!
YASSSSSS OF COURSEEEE
24:39: It was pretty simple?! You really should give it a second listen. And a third. And then a fourth and fifth. Start paying attention to the details. It's one of the most complex musical pieces in Zappa's catalogue.
@Zolar Czakl But the same goes for "Big Swifty", for "For Calvin (and His Next Two Hitchhikers)", where the New Brown Clouds theme first appears in a studio recording, and prefferably for an assortment of live performances from the late 1960s and early to mid 1970s ("Ballet Music", "Die Neuen Braunen Wolken", and of course "Farther Oblivion", and I'm sure there were more). Zappa has been building up to this piece for a decade.
The conceptual continuity is strong here! But... does the magic momma with the Camarillo Brillo still rule the toads of the short forest, or is that Billy & Ethyl's domain now?
@Sight After Dark For clarification listen to side 1 of _Just Another Band From LA_
It's a "graphic novel" sort of album side similar in style to Gregory Peccary.
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Keep in mind that were no octave or pitch shifters back then. Still trying to figure out how he did it.
Couldn’t he just speed up the tape?
@@SightAfterDark Which is in fact what he sometimes did.
This is very reminiscent of Oral Hygiene Dilemma from his movie 200 Motels. You need to watch the video to truly appreciate that one.
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It is actually very deep philosophic concepts he is dealing with here...
If you want to show someone what Frank is all about play Greggery Peccary (then play Shut up 'n play your guitar for the guitar playing). I think this is truly a masterpiece of last century's music. It seems like every style of music gets the chance to play a part. And it works beautifully. Plus, you have here perhaps the best example of the typical zappaesque mixture of nonchalance and serious musical composition and playing. You could miss the greatness of the music by the ridiculous lyrics. But, on the other hand, much of Frank's appeal comes from the fact that he never presents himself as an intellectual kind of a guy. Some people think he's just clowning. He isn´t. He means serious business. Something else must be mentioned though - Frank's voice and narration! There's an orchestral version by the amazing Ensemble Modern with two well known singers and they ruin the whole thing. I guess nobody else could sing along as effective as Frank. In the end, his voice here is what makes everything else work.