xQc Asks Destiny For Big Help
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2022
- xQc asks Destiny for help following his debate with Andrew Tate...
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Date: 17 Jul, 2022
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I'm glad for xQc that even after being a succesfull streamer for so long, he stays true to himself and speaks completely unintelligibly
i was about to say the same. i can't understand the fuck he is saying lol.
Are you the real Yang?
@@dickmcwienersonIII yes
iirc actually old old xqc was a lot more understandable in the way he spoke, there's a few clips out there
@@Morkva yea but hes said many times that its only because he was trying extra hard to be appealing.
Andrew Tate vs Mr.Girl is going to be wild.
"You have duty to protect your woman"
*Long silence*
"What if she's 14, do you then have a duty to protect her from yourself"
Mr.Girl will most likely agree on everything tate says and close it with "i agree but i don't like it, i don't think women should be treated as such" something like that.
When is this supposed to happen?!?
There’s no debate or idea exchange with Tate because the way he engages is like a troll so he’ll alter to ‘I was exaggerating’ and say his point was something we all agree on.
The bigger issue is that the Mano-sphere is a funnel to republicanism. I’m hoping destiny goes on FnF, he’s conquered twitch this should be his next big project.
🔫😏 Take off your panties.
@@zinoubensalah8939 probably not mrgirl hates infantalsiing women but that’s all tate does
Destiny be careful two of your padowan have already turned to the dark side. Train this one with caution.
XQC is a safe bet because he actually respects Destiny. This isn't the first time X came to him for advice or a convo.
Indeed, although i dont think xqc is that kind of person
Also, technically, XQC already has 5x Hassan’s followers. He doesn’t need new follows.
@@kuro2797 omg how many subs does he have on twitch?
@@cosettapessa6417 something like 11millon. XQC is like one of twitch’s biggest streamers.
last time destiny "trained" anyone he created vaush and hasan, let's hope the fact that x already has money and clout makes a difference
I’ve got a good feeling about X for some reason .. he doesn’t seem like those two in all honesty. Let’s hope third times a charm XD
@@GeekyC X isnt there to leech, he genuinely wants to learn for the sake of learning. Hes not the same as those two slugs haha
X isnt really very political and is already known. The other two wanted to be the leading political figureheads from the get go. Very narcissistic personalities as well. So it was inevitable.
@@jahajachrist2448 In that case my advice would be "why are you debating politics in the first place? Just stop."
Wait Destiny “trained” Hasan? For real?
XQC: Are you saying I won't get mad?
DESTINY: I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to.
that was a good quote, damn.
I really like that .. so good !
My girlfriends's father called me a p*do *just because* I'm 33 and she's 22... completely ruined our 10 year anniversary.
Xqc: I know tongue-fu
time stamp?
XQC having a heros journey where he learns to debate properly and go from a beginner to a master at making/communicating good points, from an old rejected sensei like destiny, would be gigachad content.
Edit: so I guess we didn't get that, but we got nick and sneako irl, lots of aba content, with a helping of stupidity and insanity from Mr girl and some of the women orbiters in Destiny's community, all the way up to fresh and fit, and even jidion. Amazing.
Vagabond feelsstrongman 😭
And then grows to hate Destiny and cuts off any engagement with him.
@@Chris-ui4vl if that was going to happen it should have happened already
Learning debating from destiny is poor, he himself is a lot of times dishonest and dodges uncomfortable questions by grasping at straws for excuses, he is also gulity of doing hypothetical gymnastic all the time because it has become his crutch.
@@Jekiterio what are some examples
XQC shouldn’t ask destiny for help. He is using a girls name FFS. Somebody save XQC
Thanks Obama, very cool
Thank you for your service Mr President
obamna
Very cool Mr President, on another note would you mind telling us your last name?
facts
XQC with Destiny: 😌👱
XQC with anyone else: 🤬👿
its probably because he respects destiny's skills and how hes actually a good debater and is never fake in terms of friendships. also xqc is always more chill off stream tbh
@@matts9587 and because destiny didn't hurt his ego.
Hasan is currently writing a rant for X talking to Destiny instead of him about debating.
X picked the right person for it lol Hasan is a terrible debater.
@@cngotham4111 Thats why Hasan always resolves to instults whenever he gets confronted. Even if its from his own community lmao.
Hasan couldn't even beat Christian walker
@@cngotham4111 hasan is just a terrible person all around lol literally all stats set at 1
"I don't care, I don't care if Xqc talks to some pathetic little dweeb I GENUINELY dont care I don't care I don't care I don't care."
Destiny should just build a little parkour course to run while he has these discussions, Better than running circles of the farms lmao
Honestly! Although I am here mostly for audio preference, it would be very entertaining to see him go through some basic - complex parkour trials while people try to tear into him.
What server or modpack is he playing?
@@5bigdonkey couldn’t tell you. I have been on a few servers with rpgish leveling though.
xQc training arc. Let's go. The debate anime
How long until we get Destiny clone nr.47 that will burn bridge when theyve learnt enough? 😄
@@jahajachrist2448 doubt it, x already has the clout and money, already is controversial and destiny is already exiled to the youtube lands
@@jcnom6606 X has always supported Destiny tho on the low key side sadly but he'd come and asked methstiny about the Ukrainian stuff or like Corona I thinks he also asked some questions.
cringe
@@yofedstyhrega4594 Again in english?
Writers came up with a spinoff show after the mid-season finale 'Manifesto Destiny'.
Never would have guessed, top tier writing 10/10.
Manifestiny was my favourite episode yet
Frfr this new Dgg Dojo arc is pretty cool
Destiny training the next Twitch Debate Warlord
Hope it doesn't go the same as his other two
Two of his padowan already turned to the dark side
@@sedpepo397 but XQC is a normal human from Canada. We are a lot more chill with race and don't allow others excuses for race. Ie. You can't speak ebonics and the gvt gets shit on when they make race specific policies here.
nah, this dude doesn't seem to actually grasp anything they're talking about, he's only looking for confirmation.
He is more pure! I can feel it! Already years tempted by clout and come out ready to be our warlord!
Good my man is acknowledging his limitations and asking for help 😂😂😂😂😂
bad hes asking for help in wrong spot lmao
@@iaqh after seeing him get trounced I commend him. Though you don’t like asking for help hence why you’re unhappy with your wife
@@iaqh what the actual fuck are you talking about?
Damn, was he that evicerated during that stream xD? I guess he can't take the L threads everywhere lol
@@iaqh you are constantly giving money to people who don't need it. You do it every time you get your nuggies from McDonald's
I have to respect XQC’s humility with regard to debating. It’s a rare sight among the twitch community.
not really. he just knows Destiny is a blackbelt and wouldn't shit on him maliciously.
He’s just an amazing communicator unlike Tate KEKW
I think it's more the fact that he's talking to Destiny. He seems to be one of the only people in the space X actually fully respects.
@@DerelictCountry nah, I'm guessing you're not a jooser. XqC is this way to a lot of people.
He's doing what a logical person would do when wanting to learn any skill. But Twitch is illogical in general. Look at who is a veteran in the political debate sphere, Let's see, we have Destiny aaaaaaand.. maybe Vaush [don't screech at me d.gg.]
Teaching XQC to debate is gonna be like watching someone teaching a German Shepherd to use chopsticks. This should be fun.
He picked up chess really fast, I think he's going to be great
Why? Lol
@@jasonmacfarlund2703 And all we remember from that arc is him getting scholared by Charlie.
@@jasonmacfarlund2703 didn't he get beat in 2 minutes by Charlie?
@@bennymountain1 he did get scholared but honestly he was improving a lot. He just choked
I'm all here for the senpai Destiny Arc training our boy Naruto.
@@0doublezero0 Did he actually do this I didn't watch the whole thing because I knew it would be a shit show
Is it too late to get a better protagonist? This one's got an obnoxious catchphrase in the dub for some reason.
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor Who even watches dubs for anything? It's just bad most of the time
What Destiny still didn't explicitly explain, is that XQC should have baited Tate into making prescriptive statements. Asking him stuff like "how do you think people should manage their relationships?" or "should you allow your girlfriend to have male friends?" and once he answers, then you can grapple the things he says. Otherwise he's just floating around in weasel land and he does this shit to you instead. Tate kept asking X what he would do and kept criticizing what he says.
Except that with Tate, you already know what he would do so you don't even need those prescriptive statements. You already know that Tate would throw himself into danger to protect the people closest to him. He's never in a situation where he refuses to answer a question or speak his mind.
@@JonezBBQ ok cool aid huffer. I'm obviously not talking about him parading his obviously performative and "good" takes that he can't fucking wait to rub into people's faces whenever he gets a chance to. I'm talking about the shit he cleverly disguises behind thirty layers of "hey man, you do you, I'm just doing things my way, are you telling me how to live my life?" which always end up being the more spicy or controversial stuff like "women should not be allowed to go to clubs alone" or "women should not be allowed to have male friends". Whenever those come up in conversation, it's always in relation to his personal preference. He'll always say that that's just how he likes to negotiate relationships, that his girlfriends always agree to this, that it's just his own way of doing things and that he by no means is telling you how to live your life, so let him live his.
Except he is telling people how to live their life. He implies it with every word. He judges you for living it differently than he does. But because X came out swinging, he came off as attacking Tate's personal way of life and belief system, while in reality what X meant to criticize is the advice Tate gives on how people should live their life, his "prescriptions".
That's why you NEED him to EXPLICITLY state those prescriptions, otherwise he'll pretend they aren't prescriptions, and that's just a free optical win for him. But as soon as he codifies them, then you have an actual basis to call him out in the first place. If you think that Tate was just being honest and forthcoming the whole time and didn't absolutely try to manipulate every single word in his favor, you're a sheep. X didn't make it very difficult for him, but Tate 100% lead the narrative exactly the way he wanted to.
This doesn't really do anything, because he'd have to prescribe behavior to others and that could be even more catastrophic since it would actually open up the line of questioning to be pointed at him even more, like xqc refusing to say that he would save his girlfriend from getting SA'd and looking like a weasel, I think everyones too generous saying he was just trying to be tactical when he dodged 3 separate hypotheticals that were very clear to everyone else. He would then always end up directing the question at xqc, and xqc doesn't have an established or well thought out worldview so he'd always crumble.
He probably just shouldn't debate since he has no perspective and isn't planning to go big into politics or debate since he only operates off 'well this feels gross', because he will either end up mudwrestling with tards or people who are better equipped than him and have spent a lot more time on the topics.
@@schizoflowstate7481 Bro, you guys are so easily memed on. It's like the only thing anybody remembers is X getting dunked on with the go downstairs hypothetical, and we're ignoring the hour and a half of prior bullshit that Tate was spewing about how he's superior to women and how he's always going to be the one in control and with all the responsibility. If he made prescriptive statements like "You should always aim to be the provider in the relationship and take responsibility for your woman" then you've got him by the balls because he basically just openly admits to misogyny with extra steps. All of the building blocks for exposing his take as completely dogshit were all there, but because there was no foundation ever established, you couldn't take the house apart, cause it was never built. You know exactly the house he's gonna build, you see the blueprint, you know it's a dogshit house, but he hasn't built it. X was trying to show everyone how dogshit the house is, but the house wasn't there. There were only bricks and floorboards scattered on the ground.
Bottom line is, Tate is taking advantage of abandoned white males, selling them snake oil about what life they dream about and how to get it, when in reality it is neither the life they want, nor can they even attain it using his prescriptions, but that's what they want to hear, so they eat it up. If you stop to think about it from a perspective of a normal fucking person, Tate's world is fucking insane. He is just super good at concealing that reality. The only way to expose it is by contrasting it against the average Joe, and you can't do that, because Tate never said this was meant for the average Joe. That's what the prescription is for. The second he gives advice and a general outline for what to do, he takes the framework of his life, and he applies it to the viewer, the average person. The moment he does that, you can hold up his life, and hold up normie Norman's life side by side and you fucking realize that everything Tate says is just fucking useless. But since he hasn't done that, the contrast was lost, and you get sucked into his world of gigachad harem owner millionaires and hot chicks who do anything for you because of how gigachad you are.
@@Mike23443 “You should always aim to be the provider in the relationship and take responsibility for your woman.” I don’t see how that’s misogynistic.
This is like Obi-Wan training Luke after his last apprentice turned to the dark side...
That is hilarious.
xQc will turn hasan back into the light?
@@dadtaro9202 Hasan was always in the wrong lol.
More like Obi-Wan training Jarjar Binks.
@@SpicySiopao Jarjar was secretly a sith lord though.
XQC needs training from JLP. Only an acronym can teach another acronym.
MonkaS not after the recent allegations
Then I guess xQc is going to have to be trained by all of DGG.
AMAZIN'
@@cmoerike01 JLP militant progressive arc incoming AMAZIN'
Just call everyone who disagrees a beyta
Gigachad
xqc and destiny is the collab we dont deserve
It's the collab we deserve... just not the one we want
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor I wanted it, just a gaming collab not political
@@Riku-hg9ke oh. I don't watch other people play games, so I'm not interested
xqc and destiny is the collab xqc dont deserve
I can bearly understand what xQc is saying, plz no more.
Destiny acting like he doesn’t remember the debate then giving verbatim arguments to protect X feelings is so brolike
This convo actually made my evening when I watched it live. As a long time xQc and Dgg lurker, I've always loved it when you guys talked on stream, so I'm glad that some of the recent drama brought you guys together for a chill talk again. Looking forward to the next one in a few years.
Andrew Tate is one of the douchiest people I have ever seen, and I disagree with a lot of his views. But my god, he destroyed xqc in that debate. I love xqc, but he needs training, thank you destiny.
Xqc should have done his research. You can tell that this Tate guy is a high-functioning person. Atleast have some notes and basic concepts thought out.
True but I don't understand how do you argue against the worldview that men are better than women? Like arguing racial supremacy, there is one side that argues that selective statistics should be used to prescribe the attitudes we hold for certain groups of people, and they do have certain stats that if you are cynical and materialistic could convince you.
The other side argues from an idealistic I could even say "Christ-like" position that the more people have more rights and are treated kindly the better the world becomes. He lost the debate because he is not a debater and has problems verbalizing his thoughts in english. He is a good person who is more emotional than a bunch of 15 year olds not yet developed the parts in their brains responsible for empathy that confuse not getting worked up by a topic that doesn't effect them as them being rational. It was frustrating.
@@MikchNick I think what he means when he espouses his worldview, is rather than male supremacy, men take more responsibility, as well as more accountability.
That part when X talked about running away in the face of danger instead of protecting his girl was pretty rough..
You have to admit though he's Dunning-Kruger-ed out the wazoo when he tries to
“The Dark Side Of Debate Tactics Is A Pathway To Many Abilities Some Consider To Be Against TOS.”
Made me blow air through my nose
I started watching both of you two-ish years ago.
You guys had me waiting two(ish) years for this unique chunk of pure gold that I trust leads to even more interesting, philosophical, life and hypothetical/practical conversation/coaching/brainstorming stuff content.
...Passed in a blink of an eye, too! At least from this perspective. :)
Thanks for the content!!! I truly admire and appreciate you.
Debate “tactics” come naturally whenever you genuinely hold a view. If you are playing with politics and PR you’ll always get burned.
XQC is focusing on the wrong things😂
I’m glad xqc is getting coaching. He made _all_ the mistakes in that debate. All of them.
ok, i like xqc
seeing him be real instead of tilting with games only in silent feels great
There's a reason he became a pro esports player, he knows when he needs to improve at something.
“I want to learn how to debate”
Also: “I don’t have any viewpoints on that thing I was arguing with him about, I’ve never really thought about it”
is it not kinda part of learning to debate it ? now he know he have to learn more about it.
@@OdinWannaBe If you don't actually have an opinion on something, you shouldn't be debating someone about it. You have nothing to base an argument on, you have no supporting arguments, you will struggle to find examples that support the arguments you don't have and you will just be floundering against someone who HAS thought through their position. You'll look like a fool trying to string together ideas, which is EXACTLY what X looked like in his debate.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if you haven't actually thought through your opinion you should just keep it to yourself. "I don't know" or "I haven't thought about it" are two perfectly valid positions to hold, and they won't make you look like a moron for trying to attack a position you know nothing about.
Yes, I was hoping Destiny was going to explain why he chose not to debate with Aqua Professor: when you research your opponent, and they’re just no match, it’s okay to say ‘I want to learn or pick your brain, I have no perspective really’
@@kyle8971 🙄 Obviously Xqc has an opinion on it, he literally said in this video that he didn't have it clearly written down to be able to explain it on the fly.
Everyone has a worldview, if they don't know. They just have to realise it. Did you not infer that from the convo between destiny and xqc? Same goes to the commenter whose comment we're replying under.
@@A_000 But that comes down to the foundational reason why xQc lost, and feeds more to the reason of what we’re his intentions with debating Tate in the first place.
It is quite obvious that xQc doesn’t agree with Tate’s worldview, but the problem is that he doesn’t have a coherent worldview in which to challenge it. He is just going from the gut: “this looks and sounds bad so someone must attack it”. Which is why he mostly just attacks the hypothetical and makes highly charged statements. He had no alternative prescriptions for which to present.
The best avenue of attack he has, is that the advice that Tate is giving is toxic to Tate’s audience, as they are likely not in the same position that Tate is in, to which the counter argument is Tate’s whole platform is trying to “turn boys into competent men.”
It would be so fun to see Destiny coach xQc on debate tactics for a few weeks and then see xqc put it all to use live and stumble his way to a W. It'd be like an anime training arc where Destiny is the wise sensei teacher the spaz kid how to fight.
Holy shit who is this guy? I agree with everything he's saying
I'm used to internet only having leftists that are disconnected from reality, and right wing red pillers.
Which one?
He's the only sane leftist
He's the only sane leftist
That is exactly how I felt after dsicovering him yesterday
I'm guessing were referring to destiny here. There are very few things I actually disagree with him on tbh. I find that he often verbalizes things I never really thought about and I think that's nice to discover. Probably the main reason I've been watching him for 3 years now
Another problem XQC had that is going to be an extremely tough one for him to overcome is it can genuinely be impossible to follow what he’s saying sometimes due to his accent,plus his tendency to talk lightning fast
I’m someone who watches X often and even I have issues understanding him in that debate. There’s no way he’d be able to win people over when they can barely follow what he’s saying.
Probably could use some public speaking,English classes.(not condescending just simply for a tool if he wants to be more persuasive in future debates)
Ya I don't watch twitch much but I remember the first time I heard XQC in a clip and it was near impossible to understand. After hearing him a few times since then and realizing how he talks, now I can understand better, but that's definitely a disadvantage to him in a debate where most people aren't used to his way of talking.
X's problem is that his mouth mind moves faster than his mouth but not necessarily in a straight line. If he wants to get into debating he needs to learn to consolidate his thoughts and lay them out from point A to point B. He tends to just skip around and if you know the arguments he's trying to make, you can follow; but if you don't it's like trying to catch someone who is teleporting. His juicer mentality is actual detrimental to him since his energy is WAAY too high even before he gets heated. The second he gets heated, he gets flustered and he loses any composure he may have had, which leads to breakdowns in his thought process that subsequently just makes him look delusional, unorganized, chaotic and lacking direction.
He wants to emulate Destiny, but Destiny can take on a room full of people and STILL get his point across. X can't handle a SINGLE person with wildly differing points of view than him without getting heated. He has a LONG way to go before he should ever be debating people.
You’re correct but X is being wise by recognizing that his biggest problem is strategy and cognition. Once he enhances his debating mindset, then it makes sense to focus on how he sounds.
Thing is he shouldn’t debate because his manner of speaking is too fast and unintelligible. He should stick to gaming, that’s his forte. Not being condescending by the way, we all have strengths and weaknesses but unfortunately speaking isn’t his best trait. Hard to engage in debate if people don’t understand you.
I think his English is fine I think he just needs to speak slower. When he started streaming his English was very good and he just had a mild accent and that’s it. He probably just needs to be ok with talking slower and he’d be fine.
1:12:46 - 1:18:14 most important and helpful part of this training video imo; explains how to handle worldview debates (which can be debating a single point as part of a much broader topic such as how anecdotal evidence isn't nearly as useful as empirical evidence)
1:57:57 is also good
I'd love to see a Rocky montage of Destiny as Mickey yelling at XqC while he's debating against people across a table
"AAAADEEEEEPT" "AAAADEEEEEPT" after losing though. He'll given it his all and we'll all still be proud!
i really wanted you to help him out after watching the tate debate but X is impossible to reach out to from what i hear, glad he's passionate enough to get help to do better in debates
Shout out to “Every Frame A Painting”! Now I have to rewatch every single thing on that channel.
High af and listening to the audio of this. I’m playing Minecraft and was actually panicking because I kept hearing ghost creepers and skeletons. It was terrifying. I’ll never recover.
He will never be good at debates, if he is too stubborn to at least try to understand the opposing views. He even argues with Destiny when Destiny tries to explain him what Tate meant, even though Destiny doesn't agree with Andrew Tate at all.
Yeah, Destiny is like trying to teach xqc what Tate probably thinks and he immediately wants confirmation that Destiny doesn't believe that. He can't understand a hypothetical situation even during this conversation. He won't mull over the idea or even consider it long enough to find why it's faulty.
@@marudoethiopia He's not looking to get better, he's just looking for validation.
Great job man this is a hungry young mind, direct that energy. Let’s make the world a better place!
I feel like the one big thing that nobody does that more people should do in debates like this is asking for time to think.
Tates self help shit is literally a pyramid scheme
It is lmao, hes a professional scam artist. Just look at his cam girl business
Ain't they all?
Ponzi scheme
the worst part is, he mixes in just enough technical "truth" and rhetorical skill that his audience is willing to swallow the entire load of horseshit. a truly talented scam artist.
I would never buy what he's selling, but I don't think people know what a pyramid scheme is. His company is not a pyramid scheme.
finally someone says that about validation, everyone thinks they're beyond validation it's unreal
xQc has a VERY VERY long way to actually become even slightly competent in debates. The problem is even if he becomes good at debating, he still has such a juvenile outlook and experience with life and politics. If he genuinely wants to improve though it will be super interesting to see what he might be able to achieve with time. If anyone can help him it's destiny.
Yeah, I was reflecting earlier about Destiny’s comment that “Some people like me just naturally love it and think about it all the time. Then there’s people whose job is related to it, like Tate who sharpens his talking points day-in & day-out, to sell their programs. X, you’re neither so you’d need a lot of preparation to outdo a Tate type of guy.”
If we read between the lines, Destiny is saying “no matter the training, if you don’t naturally enjoy and study this stuff, you will probably never be able to go toe-to-toe with a Ben Shapiro, Destiny, Aqua Professor, Tate, whatever - even Charlie Kirk or Lauren southern, they’re all obsessing about their message while X isn’t naturally drawn to this path of argumentative content-creating
@@ichtozavuzovsky8370 he lacks compassion, he tries to reason but the people watching the debate sees him as an autistic person who has no compassion or understanding for other and tries to weasel his way into a cheap point win.
Guys like thise can never become good debaters no matter how much training, the only way he can improve is his reasoning, which doesnt mean much unless you have compassion and other great traits that the common man can relate to.
Sending down ur girl to take a bullet for you, just because shes a tiny bit better with guns then you.. Pathetic
xQc can not follow a conversation, he can't build any sentence without falling over his words.
Pretty much: He is failing at most basic things, debating is out of the question for him.
@@Sprite_525 Irrelevant for xQc. He is lacking most basic thinking and communication skills, no need to talk about advanced debate theory.
A "juvenile outlook and experience with life and politics" is a prerequisite for the American Leftist so XQC will be right at home in that regard.
53:54 during the debate Andrew Tate said “Why the fuck would I go through her phone she should already be fully aware not to do certain things that are against my morals or boundaries” as in he doesn’t check his girl phone as he has told her from the beginning some deal breakers and if it happens then it’s over
Destiny is x's piccolo to his Gohan
I wouldnt presuppose X has potential
Men and women are created to compliment each other. Men in general are attracted feminine to women and women are generally attracted to masculine men. Why is that so hard to understand?
because the definitions of feminity and masculinity varies from person to person?
A woman who is into bikes and fixes her own car isn‘t traditionally feminin. However there are men who are indeed attracted to women with „traditionally“ masculine traits. Why is that so hard to understand?
@@iamwritingrightnow8217 femininity and masculinity are viewed pretty much the same across almost every single human. the only people who say otherwise are the transgender weirdos on the far left.
Great observation and take on debates.
@14:50. You are adding the "all" to the statement. When people in the real world talk about groups, they rarely use the two pages of qualifiers that internet people expect before every statement. Of course they aren't referring every single person in that group. They are usually referring to the big round section of the bell curve.
I went looking for this comment and had to look way too long to find it. People need to get outside a bit more frequently if they can't understand this basic of communication.
I love how Xqc talked about how clubs are fun and they are in a VIP section 😅 For the average woman, they will mostly need a rich guy in the club to get them to the VIP section. And that guy or other guys in the entourage are looking to f***.
Training arc gonna go crazt
Its gonna be so hype when xQc betrays Destiny and makes his own far left twitch channel
Oda tier foreshadowing. 10/10
X is not that type is person, period.
@@realslushy “its not about individual facts, its about building a narrative” ~ Destiny 2022
If we look at the statistical trend presented by Destiny, 100% of people that he tutors in debating will betray and disavow him. Long ago many people would have said the same about hassan and irish laddy.
There was a time when hassan refused to go to parties because destiny wasn’t invited. Now hes the one removing his name from the list.
Don’t judge X by the man he is but instead by the man he will statistically become after being coached by destiny.
Sasuke going up against orochimaru💀
That’s in season 4
xQc comes off as just wanting reassurance that he wasn't wrong from Destiny.
exactly
this sums up the video perfectly
These two I could listen to for hours. No idea why but just them shooting the shit made me happy.
back to back peak content
Bout to take a nap thank you Agusta for the sleep asmr
awesome, good stuff!
As much as xQc has embarrassed himself, I'd still consider this as a net positive for him. It's probably one of the rare confrontational times that his beliefs were challenged or heard another opinion that's outside of the Twitch echo chamber. As much I also disagree with some Tate's messaging this is one the things that'll help ya become a man - adversity and through trial by fire or some sht lol
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Is there a destiny podcast or something? Usually listening as i work and would be less battery usable if its on podcast form.
Great video destiny
Some girl is 100% gonna play xQc and take half his streamer net worth by the time he is 45
I mean xqc can learn new strategies, but either way the points he was making in that tate debate were just simply terrible. He should go out and understand how most males on Earth think, not try to pretend like they’re extremists for holding pretty normal beliefs…
"women are malleable" is not a normal belief lol, that is a creepy generalization made by someone who has enough wealth to play this high stakes dating game where he can find young women willing to be treated like actual children in return for the financial/social status that comes with dating a retired athlete turned internet celebrity, he talks about how twitch streamers have "effectively won the lottery" while being in a position of overwhelming privilege that 99.9% of the fatherless virgins he preaches to will never experience.
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Facts
Eat crap, a hundred billion flies agree. Just because an opinion is common, it does not mean it is right or decent. Had a black coworker talk about their experience in china, racism was pretty much the status quo there, but if you think about it, it is the status quo in most of the world. Doesn't make it right.
Well they are from USA and Canada so you cant really expect normal word views from them but its funny how the culture they are promoting is so bad that it cant even have good childbirth rates
XD @ "do you know what a cylinder is?" Out of context that just made me lol. Idk why
This should be a show fr, the main character (xqc) losing the fight against an antagonist (tate) and asking the sensei (destiny) for guidance and also the dishonored students (hasan and vaush) that the sensei trained.
Looking through a partner's phone is evidence of a relationship with zero trust
xQc is right... Whenever I see a Dave Smith or a Steve Johnson in YT chat i know I'm about to learn some wonderful FAX about how MRNA vaccines are actually gene splicing 🤣🤣🤣
Firstly respect to xqc being humble enough to ask for help with being as big of a streamer as what he is.
Secondly this is the most I have ever heard from Destiny. The dude seems very smart and has many good points. You gained a new listener and subscriber in me today.
100% Agree
Props to x for recognizing the debate for what is was and trying to work on getting better
@@dogeatdog6157 did you watch the part of the video where destiny did exactly that? or are you just hunting around for more Taint confirmation bias?
@@dogeatdog6157 ofcourse not, because even xqc agreed that a protective instinct exists. his argument was that this instinct isn't necessarily exclusive to males, especially in the case that someone has more experience with a given situation. if your female partner is significantly more experienced with a firearm and is willing to confront the present danger, you would be a moron to decide that you need to be the one holding the gun.
@@dogeatdog6157 X’s argument was to protect your significant other so wtf you talkin bout lmao
how can he not he's getting flamed all over yt
@@NameGaming
"i'd love to see someone argue X's point successfully"
"did you not see destiny do that?"
he sent her downstairs...would love to see Destiny argue that lol
got to be honest, whenever Xqc has one of this talks with destiny, you find out, he is actually a pretty stable, down to earth, maybe I would say even pretty smart guy. He never showcases this side of him when speaking with anyone else.
I don't think he is smart at all to be honest, i think destiny in specific asks questions in a way that animate him to think of what he says. XQC is very inconsistent with his views in a way.
@@imyournme6632 Not many people sound smart debating their second language.
@@michaelh878 What i critized has nothing to do with the fluidity of his speech. English is not my first language either, you can bet your ass i can articulate my opinions not only better but also more consistent and coherent, which i critiqued. He says women are equal to men yet when pushed by aba he dismisses it with "i'm not even going to go into these hypotheticals" Why? Cause you claimed something that wasn't consistent with what you believe maybe.
omg do people not understand he puts on a character even just a little bit when he streams
If you know english well enough to communicate your point and it still doenst make sense it probably is because your point doesnt make sense
I love the cylinder analogy. def gonna steal that
Can't wait to see a montage reel of xqc's training two years from now
right into my feed 😎🤙
Tru
Funny how there's several people who say first who isn't even first. Your the true first
xQc has NOT intellectually outpaced Destiny
It would be awesome to see you debate tate!
Regarding the opening bit, while it is true that one danger in discussion is the tendency to present a narrative that is compelling emotionally rather than compelling on the basis of comprehensive evidence
There is a danger from the other side: when someone with a powerful narrative derived from the totality of evidence/experience presented to them, is confronted with a compelling set of facts that they have not yet considered, they might mistakenly yield on a vital point
For instance, there is a general narrative of discontent towards energy laws that particularly harm the most vulnerable members of society
Many of these people feel like they are being presently sacrificed to preserve the future environment
In counter to this anger, one might bring up the fact that wind and solar energy are now remarkably cheap, and therefore there is no conflict between providing energy for the poor and creating 100% renewable energy grids
Of course this ignores other facts about renewables, like how they're much more space costly (nearly 400 times more than fossil fuels) and extremely inconsistent (which means that they require reserve energy, which is typically fossil fuel based)
Of course, if someone was encountering the fact about the apparent cost of renewables for the first time, that could perhaps completely take the wind out of their sales, even though they are actually right as far as the totality of evidence is concerned (though they cannot know this at the time of encountering a novel set of facts)
All this is to say that the worldview built up by a person across their lifetime, the one they stake their hearts on, is at times more reliable than a set of contradicting facts.
Productive conversation must weigh both these bad outcomes against each other in its pursuit of answers
Big Todoroki working at Endeavor's agency vibes
X has no potential, at least todoroki is op af
Holy shit this man needs a lot of work to debate for sure
Xqc got spanked by tate in that debate. Top G. Where he went wrong was that he didnt want to protect his girl when every guy knows that when it comes down to it you put others before yourself when it comes to family thats is the responsibility of a man. I hope Destiny trains xqc real good. Would love to see Destiny vs tate 🔥
Destiny V Tate would be prime Mohammed Ali v Jake Paul
That’s just abuse tbh
@@roejogan2585 i agree heavy. And to be honest i agree with both of them to some extent. I dont believe in cheating like tate but i also dont believe in my girl banging other guys like destiny😂 there is a healthy more normal medium
xqc and destiny podcast would actually be good never thought i’d say that
So instead of XQC questioning some of his beliefs after losing the debate so bad. He instead goes to destiny to learn better debate tactics, this is sad.
he lost the debate because he sucks at debating
XQC is the embodiment of "tell me what to think and I'll think it" lmao.
One of my favourite people for destiny to talk to
Why did august get rid of the timestamps?
Can't wait for the 20hr manic debating sessions and everybody in that area being afraid to call him out as an asshole.
New forest, plenty of new leaves to turn. It will be a entertaining disaster.
xQc bridge yet to be burnt 😎
It won't
I thought it'd be burnt after the twitter thing
@@BornInsane0 What twitter thing?
xqc is smart enough to not be convinced into a radical political position
@@Veneficus1996 xqc defended qt on Twitter about not allowing other people to restream her event. Destiny replied and called out xqcs hypocrisy about it. Nothing big came out of that tho. Nothing at all.
The correct feminist answer XQC wanted to give to Andrew's question was "if your girl is more competent with a fire arm she should go down and deal with the treat while you wait upstairs". At least I can see MrGirl giving that answer. But most people would consider you a coward including most feminist. Also dam the disgust that Destiny has for more traditional women is out of this world lol.
Yeah, it's a 3rd+ wave feminist view of women. Usually they talk aboit choice and opportunity, but when a girls doesn't go for this "better" lifestyle, they really look down upon these women.
I really think, that they think those women haven't really chosen, because they can never choose that "wrong", when they have all the "freedom", they themselves love so much.
It's kinda a hate against their perceived unwillingness of traditional women to parttake in the revolution, they fought for.
You are both getting triggered by his using of the word "obey". What he's actually saying is that parameters are set and she has to work within them in order to be with him, which is absolutely normal and every couple has to abide by some rules.
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Notice how his first approach is to find something to counterargue, even though the point is valid.
If a point is valid just agree, don't be a stupid contrarian.
Also XQC was acting like an overemotional child
And making GARBAGE hypotheticals
Anyone else realize that it says ominiliberal instead of omniliberal in the intro
People pay for boxing matches, We the People want to see Destiny vs Tate debate. Will break records plz make it happen
Destiny earning that A tier placement
X gave us more attention then destiny has in his whole career
The omIniliberal. Extra I in the beginning Mr. Editor.
From leader of the feared Daliban to respected sensei
Cool to see that XQC knows he isn’t good at debating. That he wants to learn