I tried zip ties, for some parts they work. But i found out i can not arrange the sheets of playwood like i can do with copper wire. So i simply used what works best for me.
"Easy" is a relative term. If you know what you are doing, then the job at hand may be construed as "easy." On the other hand, it may not be so easy if you don't have a clue or possess the right tools. Since you felt it necessary to ask such a question, it's possible you may find things a bit difficult. This shouldn't deter you though. Your project may be a learning experience but will build confidence in your abilities as you tackle future projects. The first step is to get off the couch, start making sawdust, and don't worry about making mistakes (most can be easily corrected).
Typical Wharram owner. Thinks they can tack on more cabin space, cram more into a small boat, destroy the resale value, DECREASE load capacity with more structural weight, wreck the sailing qualities of the boat.... Why didn't you just sell the boat and buy the next size up : a Tiki 38?
Wow - what a comment. I did it because it is my boat, I built it, I like to do it and if it's not working it it was my decision and my responsibility. So in that way you are right - a typical wharram owner...
@robertgrafl it is just this attitude that has given Wharram catamarans such a bad name in the yachting world. There are so many 2nd hand Wharrams out there that have been butchered by their builders - bits chopped off, bits added on, scantlings ignored, landlubbers wet dreams brought to life.... I've owned 3 and when built to spec and kept within their load limits, they are fast, responsive, seaworthy and reasonably comfortable. But, hey, like you said it's you're boat and building a boat obviously makes you smarter than the designer.
Hi Ron, since you are interested in this topic: I think wharrams are for a very small group of sailors. You have to have a very particular mindset to build one. I have build a Tiki 21 and this Tiki 31. I sailed the Tiki 31 in the Mediterrenean for 2 Summers. I startet to build this boat when i was 24 years old. It was great sailing - but i missed some comfort. Especially when it comes to bring your family on a longer trip. Selling the boat an buy a bigger one is a good idea. The only problem: There is almost no resale value on a 25 year old Tiki 31 - at least here in central europe. I could have sold it for less then a set of sails worth - maybe 5.000 Euro if i am lucky. Why? Because there are a lot of nice Monohulls on the market in the 10meter / 31 ft range which are sold for sometimes 10.000 Euros; And this Boats offer more comfort then the Tikis / Pahis in this range. And another important point: Keeping a boat in a Marina is expensiv. A berth for a 10 Meter boat will cost you between 3000 and 8000 Euro / Year. For a Catamaran 50% more. So you will pay 5.000 to 12.000 Euro / Year for the Tiki 31 just to keep it in a Marina. Thats more then the value of the Boat! So that is why i decided to modify the Tiki in a way i thought it will fit my needs: Make it comfortable enough for some months of cruising, bring it to the water, sail it and then bring it back again. If i had the money to buy and maintain a Tiki 38 or a Tiki 46 i would do so. But unfortunately i cant afford any one of them. And have Wharams a bad reputation in the "yachting world" - i dont know. Maybe somebody could leave a comment on this topic.
@robertgrafl G'day Robert. I appreciate your desire to sail further. The missus and I cruise the Great Barrier Reef as liveaboards on our 36 foot bridgedeck catamaran. But the fact is, you cannot cram a big dream into a small boat. We carry 150L of fuel, 85L of water (& a watermaker!), 3x3.7 kg lpg bottles, 3 weeks provisions, 100 kg of deep cycle batteries (lithium), an inflatable dinghy, bedding, tools, fishing tackle, anchors, chain, rope, etc, etc & the cats and there is only 2 of us and our biggest hop between ports is 200 miles. The load carrying capacity of a Tiki 31 is 1000 kg. That's dry weight - no engine, no fuel, no batteries, no toilet, no water tanks, no stove/gas, no ground tackle - and your boat has less now that you've added more structure. Two adults and 2 children with food and water and a bit just in case - how far can you go before you need to reprovision? Cruising the Med sounds comfortable; any further sounds like an ordeal. Monohulls are made for carrying weight; multis have to be large to come even close.
@@Ron-dx9wq Have you seen modification to Wharram where people add a cabin and remove the beam to transform it into a modern design? I think the open deck and the beams are increadibly wastefull in space and comfort and weight. They could be replaced by flooring and roof and some bulkhead like all the other cats. I had an iroquois, 32ft with 18" of draft and folding rudders and centerboard. It was great but a bit too small for a family. I am thinking of salvaging a Wharram and creating something more modern with a forward cockpit at the front of the cabin.
those children faces as they joke with each other and you :) , that is what pure joy looks like , they are a credit to you sir .
Great plan!!! Thanks for sharing and fair winds to you
Looking forward to see the end result. I agree that for most people a centre cabin is a good modification to a tiki 31.
Interesting video! Can’t wait to see more.
Excited to watch more...🙏
Jeder sollte einen Katamaran im Schuppen haben 🤙
nice job!
This is so niceeeee
Nc video...
Gela and robert
Mac poge...😎
Keep it up 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you - I will. Just waiting for the spring.
🤟🤟👍👍
use zip ties instead of copper wire, easy to remove, cheap, zero damage to workers or tools.
I tried zip ties, for some parts they work. But i found out i can not arrange the sheets of playwood like i can do with copper wire. So i simply used what works best for me.
Hallo Robert wie geht's dir ich bin Frank Feldhaas dein vor langer Zeit nachbar in rainfeld bist nicht mehr in Österreich? Was treibst sonst so ?
Hallo, bin schon seit längerer Zeit wieder in Österreich. Weiteres gerne auf Facebook. LG Robert
I get noxious when the background music is unnecessarily, suddenly and extremely loud, why do loud?
I plan to build a Mana 24 but modified - without cabins to have a very large cockpit like the Wharram Islander 39. Do you think that's easy?
"Easy" is a relative term. If you know what you are doing, then the job at hand may be construed as "easy." On the other hand, it may not be so easy if you don't have a clue or possess the right tools. Since you felt it necessary to ask such a question, it's possible you may find things a bit difficult. This shouldn't deter you though. Your project may be a learning experience but will build confidence in your abilities as you tackle future projects. The first step is to get off the couch, start making sawdust, and don't worry about making mistakes (most can be easily corrected).
Did you make any progress on the Mana 24, am considering one.
Typical Wharram owner. Thinks they can tack on more cabin space, cram more into a small boat, destroy the resale value, DECREASE load capacity with more structural weight, wreck the sailing qualities of the boat.... Why didn't you just sell the boat and buy the next size up : a Tiki 38?
Wow - what a comment. I did it because it is my boat, I built it, I like to do it and if it's not working it it was my decision and my responsibility. So in that way you are right - a typical wharram owner...
@robertgrafl it is just this attitude that has given Wharram catamarans such a bad name in the yachting world. There are so many 2nd hand Wharrams out there that have been butchered by their builders - bits chopped off, bits added on, scantlings ignored, landlubbers wet dreams brought to life.... I've owned 3 and when built to spec and kept within their load limits, they are fast, responsive, seaworthy and reasonably comfortable. But, hey, like you said it's you're boat and building a boat obviously makes you smarter than the designer.
Hi Ron, since you are interested in this topic: I think wharrams are for a very small group of sailors. You have to have a very particular mindset to build one. I have build a Tiki 21 and this Tiki 31. I sailed the Tiki 31 in the Mediterrenean for 2 Summers. I startet to build this boat when i was 24 years old. It was great sailing - but i missed some comfort. Especially when it comes to bring your family on a longer trip. Selling the boat an buy a bigger one is a good idea. The only problem: There is almost no resale value on a 25 year old Tiki 31 - at least here in central europe. I could have sold it for less then a set of sails worth - maybe 5.000 Euro if i am lucky. Why? Because there are a lot of nice Monohulls on the market in the 10meter / 31 ft range which are sold for sometimes 10.000 Euros; And this Boats offer more comfort then the Tikis / Pahis in this range. And another important point: Keeping a boat in a Marina is expensiv. A berth for a 10 Meter boat will cost you between 3000 and 8000 Euro / Year. For a Catamaran 50% more. So you will pay 5.000 to 12.000 Euro / Year for the Tiki 31 just to keep it in a Marina. Thats more then the value of the Boat!
So that is why i decided to modify the Tiki in a way i thought it will fit my needs: Make it comfortable enough for some months of cruising, bring it to the water, sail it and then bring it back again.
If i had the money to buy and maintain a Tiki 38 or a Tiki 46 i would do so. But unfortunately i cant afford any one of them.
And have Wharams a bad reputation in the "yachting world" - i dont know. Maybe somebody could leave a comment on this topic.
@robertgrafl G'day Robert. I appreciate your desire to sail further. The missus and I cruise the Great Barrier Reef as liveaboards on our 36 foot bridgedeck catamaran. But the fact is, you cannot cram a big dream into a small boat. We carry 150L of fuel, 85L of water (& a watermaker!), 3x3.7 kg lpg bottles, 3 weeks provisions, 100 kg of deep cycle batteries (lithium), an inflatable dinghy, bedding, tools, fishing tackle, anchors, chain, rope, etc, etc & the cats and there is only 2 of us and our biggest hop between ports is 200 miles. The load carrying capacity of a Tiki 31 is 1000 kg. That's dry weight - no engine, no fuel, no batteries, no toilet, no water tanks, no stove/gas, no ground tackle - and your boat has less now that you've added more structure. Two adults and 2 children with food and water and a bit just in case - how far can you go before you need to reprovision? Cruising the Med sounds comfortable; any further sounds like an ordeal. Monohulls are made for carrying weight; multis have to be large to come even close.
@@Ron-dx9wq Have you seen modification to Wharram where people add a cabin and remove the beam to transform it into a modern design?
I think the open deck and the beams are increadibly wastefull in space and comfort and weight. They could be replaced by flooring and roof and some bulkhead like all the other cats.
I had an iroquois, 32ft with 18" of draft and folding rudders and centerboard. It was great but a bit too small for a family.
I am thinking of salvaging a Wharram and creating something more modern with a forward cockpit at the front of the cabin.