4 Ways to go from COPPER to PEX! (full video in description)
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Here's a COMPLETE guide on how to transition to PEX, copper, Polybutylene, CPVC and galvanized piping. If you are doing renovations at home and are looking to do some plumbing work, you absolutely need to watch this video!
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A quick trick to keep your solder from running down the pipe while doing a vertical joint from the bottom is keep a dry rag handy and give the pipe a quick wipe after you heat it up when the flux runs down before you solder it, we call those dog balls over here
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We. Call them bird shits
Are you from St.Louis :)
@@fluffynutz730 Vancouver bc
Good old monkey nuts , gotta be able to distinguish between apprentice or journeyman. I've moved back into monkey nuts as I'm an RMP , lol . Gotta make the apprentices think they have a hope , 😆
I just did a bunch of plumbing for my landlord yesterday, and while I was messing with the rings I asked myself "what would got2learn do?" So I squished the rings a little to keep them in place. I probably watched the old video a long time ago.
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Landlord of the rings
Tell your landlord I told them to jump off a cliff.
@@huntingwithcheney8671 eye c wut u did thare
Use the rubber handles on the pump pliers to pinch the ring in place before final crimp. It keeps the ring from getting galled.
That pre crimp is such a f****** pro move
Then follows it up with a sharkbite 😂
I just hold the clamp in place with the crimpers. Why score it with teeth?
@Eggugat It can be awkward to align everything in a tight space. Just one less thing to worry about. Less chance it slips too high or low and you need to redo the bisch.
@@jamesrohal368 true, i swapped to an electric crimper so i reduced the struggle drastically. Do a lot more pro press and solder though
I’ve been watching this channel for a long time now. It is by far the most useful source for plumbing information on YT. Well done!
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I totally agree, this guy does a great job.
I've done the sharkbite a few times and it makes life so much easier, a few years down the road now and all of them seem fine. We'll see.
I have been using Shark bites since they were available for purchase to install water treatment equipment and never had one leak if you debur the copper pipe.
The people who complain about them are plumbers upset that they can’t charge $400 for something that would take 15 minutes with shark bites, or DIYers who say “eh, I don’t need a cutter or deburr tool, I can just use my hacksaw and deburr with the box cutter!” and then have leaks.
They’re code approved for walls and burial. Do it right and there’s no problem. If soldered pipe never leaked plumbers would only work on new construction sites.
@@manny9323 honestly bro plumbers never debur pipe. I have yet to see it happen in the 4 years of plumbing. I’ve been at 2 different companies too. Sharkbites are convenient for cpvc to copper, when the other methods are threading plastic into copper or brass threads which always leaks eventually yet is considered a permanent fix lmao. You just gotta have finesse is the biggest thing I’ve noticed/learned in the trades. You can do something the proper way the code book says but if you suck and got no finesse you’re still gonna have ugly or leaking joints etc.
@@manny9323shark bite is not approved for commercial or burial. Idk what state you’re in but in Florida and Texas they are not allowed. Just be a man and learn to soldier. Or pro press. Takes 3 minutes to soldier. Shark bites have barely been around so you have no idea the problem they can have over years of use. Just like poly-b. Takes time to see the problems. Shark bites are a last resort. Only because they go off of the putter diameter of the pipe, meaning they can be used to get off of polybutylene onto copper, cpvc.
@@am3rikan84I think we found our butt hurt plumber
Compression fittings just entered the conversation
For home owners just use a shark bite 😂
Man sharkbites are terrible. Plus the cost of one will get your joint soldered any day.
Pro press anyone…. 😂
As a maintenance guy for apartments I used sharkbites and never had problems. Pretty nifty. Now I do tile and wont touch that stuff.
As they should.
What's funny is that I've seen enough of your shorts to now know you've changed your recommendations. Don't crimp the pex with the teeth of the pliers, use the handle. Measure the bend in the solder based on the dimension of the pipe so you know you're using enough. This is not a dig or negative comment, I'm personally happy with myself for recognizing that, since it means I'm paying attention.
That's neat. What length do you bend for 1/2 inch?
I’ve used shark bites in my house before. I would recommend using them as a temporary fix. I had 2 of them break before I just had all the old piping replaced
I've been using them for years. I've never had an issue. Ya had a bur, bent or 😐 installed it incorrectly. Now sounds like you bought a Gatorbite.
master plumber Roger wakefield said about 80% of his calls are to repair sharkbites. So it doesn't surprise me you had issues as well. Sharkbites also don't hold up well to high psi. Around 600 psi for sharkbites, where as solder is around 20,000 psi.
@@411Adidas that master plumber is full of BS he might have a few good tips but most of what I’ve seen was just pure BS shark bites work fine if you do it right I’ve been using them for 10 years and I have yet to have one fail
@@411Adidas yeah, because you're going to see over 600 psi unless you don't have a frost proof hose bib
@@derekv275 They are technically a more temporary fix, according to basically any plumber. But, I've also had no issues. We've hit a couple water pipes when installing vinyl siding (well, when doing rotten wood replacement before the siding) Fuckers cut out notch in the foundation and then stucco over the pipe so you can't see it's going through the baseplate. The funniest is the one or 2 times in 20 years when hit electrical wires. One house had this aluminum foil covered plywood that we went over, so it electrified the entire fucking outside plywood. We started getting shocked when touching nails and arc when we got near the plywood with our hammer haha. Was nuts. Electrician found it really quick.
what I like about pex is when I take it apart and inspect it ,it's clean on the inside where copper or galvanize there's always some black slime or rust on the inside .
Pex has barely been around.
@@am3rikan84 Long enough to compare.
@@am3rikan84you sound gay, pex has been around for over 20 years, and shark bites have as well. You sound like you only want to sweat copper in every job you do, leave it to the people who do plumbing everyday bud.
@@yolisurich4025Pex also leaches into the water over time. A phosphate system on the water supply should protect copper well enough that it outlives you.
Sweating copper is so satisfying. Worth the extra effort in my opinion.
pex-a is the best I prefer the expansion rings over crimping, much stronger hold. also much faster in my opinion.
Replumbed my master bath last month, connected it to copper by sweating on a copper-to-PEX adapter. Didn't even consider any other method
I really enjoy your idea of taking channel locks and crimping the ring into place so it doesn't slide before you use the tool love it thank you I will use that method!
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good thing to note is that most code recognizes sharkbite fittings as unions, meaning they require a permanent access point. good for fixture shut offs, not pipe replacement or retrofit.
Can you post a reference to this?
"Crimp your Pex" sounds like the the ultimate workout bro slogan.
Use the handles of your pliers, so it doesn't score the ring
Or a knipex pliers wrench with them nice soft straight jaws
@@rickyspanish9625 ya this. Or I will put a small dab of plumber's grease on with the ring... which keeps it from moving and makes the tool come off easily every time.
They now make an oval stainless clamp that stays put, pretty cool
It’s plumbing not decoration it doesn’t matter
@@JacobLeeson-zk1ol what a horrible mentality. To have pride in your work is a fleeting asset for many, unfortunately.
sharkbites are nice if you do it right. You have to make sure the pipe is cut square and you seat it all the way down on the sharkbite
Use a rotary tube cutter. They are cheap and always cut square. You just need to clean out the internal burr though many don’t bother.
Your videos are very educational. Sharkbite should not be used inside walls. They are only recommended for exposed pipe couplings, as well as exposed faucet and toilet valves.
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Not simply recommended but by code in almost every jurisdiction in the US and I believe Canada as well , it's not allowed at all in inaccessible locations. But , my word , you ought to see some of the DIY inventions ... repairs folk do with those sharkbites . Life savings spent on sharkbites to keep from calling the plumber , but still ends up calling us . 🤣
Pretty sure I've got about 4 different types of sharkbite on my truck for the various plastic pipe that we get here in Australia
Shark Bites are a gift from heaven. A Home Depot guy said the inventor is on a beach sipping Mai Ti's for the rest of his life. Good for him.
I'm sure he is but I would only use them on a temporary basis, and never covered up in a wall.
@@Acxodarksun 25 year warranty on them. Stop being afraid of the future.
@@flybackrs haha the warranty is on the price of the fitting. Not the 50k+ water damage😂
@@ashenmoonclash I've never had a leak. They work fine. Truly if your afraid your shark bites are gonna leak you should be just as afraid of anything that isn't hard line copper 😅 Pex and shark bites are a gift of engineering. I'm gonna use them as much as possible.
@clayp3036 I agree. I never run copper in residential anymore. There is no need to pay a higher cost for a more problematic material since copper thins over time. PEX all the way, less chance of bursting if frozen too. I only use copper in commercial.
Great stuff, love how educational your videos are 😅
Ive used them all. Most expensive fitting is Sharkbite. But its the easiest and quickest. Also very reliable
No. No they are not.
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Are too, are too, are too
shark bite good for temporary fix.
type A is the way to go or pro press.
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You don't know anything about it. They're not what plumbers can charge for because they're quick and easy to use . BUT THEY ARE PERMANENT REPAIRS.
Finally someone on here that knows how to plumb...
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Yeah...sharkbites aren't permanent repairs. Don't put them in a wall.
Also don't forget to pull out the insert if you do use them for a temporary repair on copper.
Who says they aren’t permanent? They are approved to be in a wall
I'm getting sick of seeing these comments. Look up code requirements. Sharkbite fittings are approved in walls, crawlspaces, in ground, and anywhere else you may join pipes or pex together.
I've never had good luck with shark bites on copper. They seem to work fine on PVC and pex but I just replaced one under a friend's house that blew apart and going from copper to CPVC
I like my Milwaukee cordless crimper it also dose refrigeration lines , water lines , galvanized, gas pipe
That can all be done with a standard compression fitting too ✌
Dude - you have to stop making solder look so easy. It’s not fair - my goodness, make it look like it would look for the rest of us. 😂
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His solder job is crap so being that sloppy is easy soldering is super easy even the proper way
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The trick to not having your solder run down the pipe like that is to wipe the runs of Flux off the pipe after you heat it, then solder it
Take your time with it and wipe the joint while it's still hot.
You forgot to mention the Sharkbites are also removable.
They aren’t good for much else.
@@jordanhenshawI heard they weren't good at all
@jaimevargas-mora8453 let me give ya some real world experience with them. They work an hold up well. I know most will hate me saying that but it's true people hate it cause they take a trade learned skill an make it a useless task that anyone can do. they are great to have on a hand an hole up very well. I've seen a house with them hold up very nicely
They do work, they are just prone to leaking a random amount of time later, Ive seen sharkbites that were years old and still not leaking, and I've seen them start to leak before I could get out of the driveway.
@@jordanhenshawwell ill be honest as i worl building maintenance. Ive seen the pros come in with the pro press fittings atleast a dozen times now and ive had to call em back atleast once per repair due to a leak. Keep requesting a solder job but the claim is this is the new "leak proof" technology. Sadly i dont get to select our contractors.
Short, affective, and not begging for my "like" and subscription. Bravo
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Pex-A for the win.
As a boiler change out/install tech daily there is a perfect method for soldering on the vertical either to brass or copper. My trick is to never solder joint while tourch is on the joint at the same time. So il heat up the fitting i want the capillary action to go to and once the joint starts dripping out flux down the pipe il take the tourch and burn it off and then go back up to fitting with tourch and once you find that sweet spot of temperature il wait one or 2 seconds with no heat on it then itll glide right up that joint with no runs and no leaks even with the 180 degree water. I hate the look of dripps and flux still on all joints from 30 years ago its disgusting
People hate on shark bites but I think it’s because they lend themselves to lazy or lack of knowledge types… or general misuse. if you take the time to clean up the pipe, you aren’t reusing one you pulled off another job, and it’s seated correctly, it will work fine. Either way, most if us don’t bury them in walls if we can avoid it…
No eventually the o rings will fail. My plumber says on running a test on them they have blown off and failed. Would not take a chance on something behind walls that aren't accessible
I hate shark bites because the people who install them suck. I dont do it myself but always have them leaked like all the time 🤦🏽
That's how I do it. Simple. Cinch clamps and the Ryobi power cinch tool.
Might do the shark bite fitting to have hot water go to the kitchen. Real tight fit. Had a pipe leak and someone just cut the copper pipe and fold it back. Was told he would come back but he never did.
If you’re gonna use PEX, use PEX-A and Upinor fittings. Forget crimp fittings.
You've up-talked me into it.
I like using shut off valves that have transitions built-in
You always pull the plastic flare ring Out of the shark bite That goes to the c p v c Or pex pipe And you leave it in the shark bite when You're hooking it to copper .
I have a few shark bite fitting on my lines. They’ve been installed for 3 years and never had an issue. Hell I was taking pipe out of a wall at work and some of them had shark bites on them and I know they’re over 10 years old and never failed.
yep
1 thing sharkbites don’t do is transfer cpvc to pvc unless maybe you have a bigger cpvc pipe but 3/4 to 3/4 it obviously won’t work
The only time you want to use your SharkBite fitting is if you want to have leaks. You could put it in fot the guy that you really don't like. As is in about 4 years he's going to have a flood do to that PEX fitting, or possibly sooner than that
Super “easy” shakes while taking the pipe off makes sense
You should Debur copper pipe before ever putting a shark bite on your pipe and make sure you seat them all the way. You should also clean the cut edges of pex so you don’t tear the washer.
Yeah, like he said in the video....
Hahaha you just improved my life so much with rhe pliers hack
Like all your videos this is excellent. One correction is that I would not use the term shark bite as that is now a brand with multiple technologies. Which you are talking about is called push to connect. SharkBite makes push to connect but they also make pex adapters etc. So using SharkBite can be misleading
True, thanks for the correction 🙏
They sell rings with plastic gaskets don top that don’t allow it to move and gives perfect gap they are a little more expensive but save tons of time
Don't use crimp ring pex. Only use expansion pex-a. Also never use shark bites.
Use the pex that expands and shrinks on to the fitting
I'm a big fan of expansion pex with the expansion pex rings. No rings to fail.
I've been seeing a lot of failure videos of those lately.
I'm getting ready to remodel and replumb my house. I think I'm going to go with the stainless crimps.
@Jetmech-tg4hl just an FYI the stainless rings were failing bad enough that there is a lawsuit against one of the manufacturers. If you buy Google expansion rings and put them on right they work great. Buy them from a quality company not the internet
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Guess there's nothing safe anymore, lol. I have sharkbite installed right now, but that was literally a stop gap just to get water to where I absolutely needed it after a bad freeze burst a lot of PVC.
@Jetmech-tg4hl
I'd say you're right. Especially with manufacturing today cutting corners every way they can. Can't we just get back to quality products that don't let us down!?
@Jetmech-tg4hl I've been thinking. Dangerous, right? Haha. I wonder if the expansion rings or the fittings came from Home Depot? The only time I have ever seen a failure was a home supplied plastic 90 from Home Depot. The 90 was a touch to small, and the fitting leaked. Went back the next day with one of our fittings and fixed it. So I was curious.
Stainless steel rings are guaranteed to leak over time. Never use them. The black crimp rings are the way to go. Push to connect should only be used in places that aren't sealed in a wall.
Oetiker clamps are good enough for automotive uses, what makes you think they'll leak for household uses? Unless crimped improperly.
Wow they bringing this method back? Huge lawsuits in Santa Clarita regarding this method of joining PEX. PEX was initially outlawed but the oil companies kept suing the state of CA until they finally relented
Compression or wirsbo would be my choice
I do a propress copper coupling with a brass fitting adapter and uponor expansion pex with an expansion tool
I ordered online a big bag of copper to pex adapters that are actually made of copper not brass. They sweat on MUCH easier.
Shark bite is the very best and most reliable 5 years and no issues!
That's subjective.
Pro press x pex adapters, changed my life lol
Propress to pex. That’s easy also
The no special transition fitting needed is the first thing I’d see that I like about pex tubing
Propress a pex adapter
Pre crimp with the rubberized handle instead of the jaws
Yes, best trick!
I solder my transition, but a compression valve I might've done in hindsight.
You can use the crimpers to make the ring stay in place.
Crimp vs cinch. GO!
First mistake was using shark bite second mistake was not using viega rings
Push fittings should only be used by homeowners until a plumber can come out
Lol
Sharkbite push fittings are to code. Job complete.
He’s another Internet expert
First is my go to
Excellent
Awesome job buddy!
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you gotta have the right tools for the job
Thanks I'm learning 👍
My house was built in 1983. I don't believe I'll have to ever worry about pex.
True!
REHAU and Fränkische ALPEX for life
After the Flux melts from the initial heat- wipe the pipe with a rag...... then the solder won't drip like in this video
Wirsbo be the way to go
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Shark bite looks like the best way to go :)
I'd say easiest is sharkbite to go Copper to pex
Shark bites should never be used for anything other than a temporary fix... they fail way too often for the risk to be worth it.
I definitely prefer Viega pex if I'm going to run plastic, fittings are a bit more expensive but the collar and tool are super convenient
If you absolutely have to use a shark bite, I find that they grab on copper way better then pex. So get a shark bite that has one end threaded, then put a pex fitting on that.
I prefer to stainless steel rings because you can break them off and replace them easier than the copper rings.
Forget those rings and use Uponor Pex A with the proprietary expansion collars
Amen brother
You also need a special sharkbyte to go from pvc to other types.
Cause copper is cts, pvc is ips
When I flipped my house I used pex and sharkbite when those seemed relatively new to me.. I just kinda went and picked up sharkbites 1 or 2 at a time as I needed them, and after a couple of weeks when I was finished I realized I spent like $400 on sharkbite fittings. :(
It's. So good thanks for your effort
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Thank you very much for the info
Sharkbite for the obvious win. It's been tested in debunking vids and has a large money warranty if it fails. The company obviously trusts it. Every plumber that hates it only hates it cus it means it saves people money while taking money from the plumbers.
Problem with sharkbite is that it can not be covered by the sheetrock or any other permanent coverage. It must be accessible forever.
I like to use copper press adapters.
Nice sweat joints 🤠
clean, if possible try sweating with the fitting upside down, it flows like butter, your first example was professional
Yes!
Hey Boy! You need to clean up that solder Boy! Back in my days we took pride in our work Boy!
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Do it! 😂 Remind me ben Stiller in dodgeball... Do it, Do it😂
The volume lost from those adapters is nuts. And shark bite is for homeowners who don’t know how to plumb.
Copper sweat as much as possible eliminate all other mechanical joints whenever possible and you will have a forever system.
Mark Insertion depth? 😅
If you can sweat pipe use all copper
Not a plumber here. Genuinely curious why plumbers don’t use expansion Pex more often. At least I don’t see many videos, maybe they do. I got the Milwaukee expansion tool and plumbed my entire barn (probably incorrectly and poor) but was super easy, quick and haven’t had a leak so far. Just wondering.
Don't use sharkbite fittings behind wall , they have replaceable rubber o rings that can be cut or perish over time also if you have to remove the fitting and then refit it will mess up with the internal teeth that keeps it in place . The phrase I heard was "any idiot and a sharkbite fitting " not judging anyone 😉
never use pex, or press fittings. pex will eventually break down, and leak, and press fittings will leak. Especially under high pressure.
I tend to agree , copper will lasts 40 /50 yrs and more
The solder ran down the pipe because you overheated the pipe and also overfilled the cup. Next time, preheat the pipe and then heat just the fitting and use less solder. Making sure the fitting only has a thin film of flux will also insure the solder will not adhere to the pipe as it runs down
Sharkbite and comp fits