IS ANYONE ACTUALLY WATCHING "THE ACOLYTE"? | Film Threat Versus
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
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I'm convinced the only people watching it are the Hollywood press, reviewers, and RUclipsrs.
The press clearly is not watching either. This time around Acolyte have been getting blaster for fair reasons and not 1 of them made an argument as to why the fans were wrong.
At this point i wouldnt be surprised if these "journalists" have a few pormpts ready to use AI to blast the fans.
New Rockstars & Carly King & many media shills are still watching The Acolytes & gave it great review.
The Acolytes is one & done show to watch & to never to be rewatch again.
Pretty much Paul Tassi from Forbes is the only one who likes this crap. All about those clicks I guess.
More people than watched Chris Gore's movie that bombed with critics and bombed bad at the box office.
I'm sorry to say, there are some die hard fans that anything star wars related is all good. Unfortunately I know some of them....
Just because something is talked about does not mean people are watching it let alone enjoy it. Gotta love how they tried to start a petition to renew for season 2 and it got barely 2,500 posts. That is really, really sad.
I am sure they voted with multiple accounts as well, so it is even fewer than that
2,500 posts, not 2,500 people.
Lol Chris Gore's movie bombed and nobody talks about it. He is a failed filmmaker
Nerd Cookies is so right - Caprica should have been an object lesson: do NOT mess with the fundamentals. Little pushes, a bit, here and there.
NOT turning BSG into Space Wine Moms in Orange County. NOT pretending the High Republic is anyone's Star Wars.
Bingo. To increase your audience you need to give your existing audience everything they already loved _and_ add something more. Not pulling a milieu on like a skinsuit on top of a completely different skeleton.
Disney, I will watch your show. My price is $350 per episode and I am allowed to watch them at 2x speed.
Shall we crunch the numbers? The viewing minutes works out to about 6m viewers (for E1/E2). For a $180m budget, and realistic $5 per viewer profit (after service costs and taking into account their savage discounting deals), the even if those viewers are subscribing to D+ for nothing else except the Acolyte, they need to retain them for _6 months_ in order to pay for this. They're financial incompetents.
Episode 3: I'm the worst episode
Episode 7: Hold my thread
Episode 8: Oh my sweet summer child
I’m not. But I’m 42 years old.
What should concern Disney is that I’ve got 2 sons, 8 and 5 years old, who could not care less about Star Wars.
In my extended family, the boys are checked out, but the girls are still there. And the moms are still buying grogu merch for everyone
None of the children in our entire extended family pays any attention to SW. It's not on their radar AT ALL.
_SW_ going the way of _Flash Gordon , Buck Rogers_ , etc: something the old man loved when he was younger.
As long as Headland pushes Disney's social engineering, she will keep her place like KK. Expect a Season 2 based on that.
I haven't watch a minute. I am female.
Would’ve forgotten this existed if RUclips channels didn’t talk about it.
Star Wars girls are not watching Bridgerton and we don’t hate other women. Since StarWars is now terrible we are watching RUclipsrs hate on it and looking for new Sci Fi.
No. I am waiting for the hilarious breakdowns from all of you! I couldn’t get past the 3rd episode. Thank you for your sacrifice in watching this garbage.
My friend is watching it. He says it's the most woke nonsensical dog-piss-tier show he's ever seen.
It's objectively bad, but just because there's the Star Wars name slapped on it he keeps watching.
Me and some other friends kinda got mad he's helping Disney's numbers on that one.......
They took the open ending of Episode 6 and closed it down to one person. So, they went back and shoved a bunch of stories in between other stories. It's like publishing a four comic book series that takes place between X-Men 106 and X-Men 107.
My "theory" is that the show's finale will almost assuredly be the show's finale
What I have seen of this series are the clips used in reviews. I feel that to be a worthy enough effort.
They should call out more that this is based on 5.5 weeks for the Acolyte but even doubling it is not really making an impressive picture.
Stopped after Episode 3. Started watching _The Expanse_ . Binged all (5 years?) in a couple weeks. Time well spent.
The Expanse is peak Sci Fi. I really wish that had kept going.
I'm watching the recaps from actual SW fans who are watching it and making content about it. That content panning the show is actually watchable and worth my time. Thank you for your service.
I don't know the numbers but I would say the old EU did more to grow the audience than the prequels. The prequels were a let down for most but provided a foundation for others to build off of. The games, cartoons, comics and merch that came out of it were what kept Star Wars fresh in the minds of fans and kids. It is a testament to how bad Dissney has bungled Star Wars that people are looking back so fondly to the Prequels now.
Everyone is too busy watching it get torched.
I definitely am not watching this show, as I don’t subscribe to Disney+, nor desire to, even if I could afford it.
Even if I did have it, I have no desire to watch a show that gleefully ignores or trashes cannon for the sake of personal, agenda-driven fan fiction.
Lucas’ VII-IX or Nothing
Having been following the show but the pirated version. Normally, pirate websites quickly try to get the newest episodes and movie on their site, but with the Acolyte I seen mutiple pirate website be very slow to even try to post it. You can wait days before they do put the show on and some don't even bother to get the episodes name right.
I'm not interested in hate-watching something for the sake of it and every channel's take on it episode by episode has really started to over-stay its welcome. My YT feed is filled with trash. RLM's was the only one I was able to stomache, but maybe it time for me to move on from this space. Endless rage-bait is bad for my soul.
I can't wait for Disney to give Leslie Headland 1 trillion$ to make Season 2 where, Yoda marries Osha and give birth to Kermit the frog.
Lez would have to step in for a guest appearance as Miss Piggy.
@@deepzone31 That would be a disgace to Miss Piggy
wtf kind of dirt or leverage does Leslye have on those higher ups at Disney that they gave this show $180 million ?? And how much of it was "hush" money actually to keep .....""hushed". Hmmmm 🤔🤔
More money laundering.
The fact Andor exists is a complete enigma
I liked Andor - I like all Star Wars shows - it got shit 50% way through Ashoka - thats when writers just gave up and used AI to write rest of the series - and the Acylote is unwatchable - they need to make a documentary on the making of it - like the room
@@SPM2206 Yes. Asokha was the tipping point. Long before the Acolyte they made the world between worlds a thing. It's essentially the Heart tree network from GOT and Asokha is Bran and can know and see everything ever. And they don't need ships anymore because hyperspace whales. WTF?
I'm sure there are at least a reasonable amount of younger people who fit the the "content consumer" profile, who just watch any show that comes out with a reasonable amount of advertising/press behind it whether it's really any good or not. I wouldn't say enough to make a show like the Acolyte a big success, but enough that the people making shows at places like D+ say "See people are watching" and decide they can keep making more of the same mediocre/bad crap.
And there’s enough to shill just about everything they make. That or they’re bots.
Disney's sequels killed it for me, the TV shows were weak - I'm out - and I was a die-hard - F-them!!!
Imagine if your business model was: "We won't make products for our already built-in massive fan base. We'll make products for the few people who aren't already fans."
INSANITY
There's nothing wrong with that, but you make it a splinter project and not your CORE PROGRAMMING. It's mindblowing that so many executives retain jobs at this point. Accountability used to be a thing.
@@deepzone31 That's what I meant, and yes, it's a wonder so many executives still have jobs.
So basically the Star Wars shows Disney made got worse with each one.
Survey says, no.
so X then?
cus title's a question and you can't get a ding off the question?? lolz but to go along with the family feud bit
most average fans who liked SW: i stopped after SW8 ding
me I hate everything Disney has done with SW ding [it is about the only legit extreme response out there that a mass audience might answer]
but i do get the survey says bit and is a good comment lol
I was done when the best episode (#5) was still unbelievably dumb. When the guy threw his lightsaber and cut the trees at a forward-sloping angle, they still fell over backwards. Disney Star Wars is so stupid they forgot how gravity works.
I think the surge in backlash has spurned high rate of views
"The Acolyte only has 5.5 weeks of data."
I love hearing 8 ppl argue….
Yeah Andor is great
I watched it because I was astounded by how bad it was; not because I liked it. And while I thought those last violin notes conveyed the creeping feeling of "cringe" perfectly, the only good thing I can say abut Episode 8 is "At last! It's over."
I watched it. The Acolyte is a 3/10 show with a 8/10 fight choreographer. And they doomed my boy Plagues to the indefinite backlogs, never to be seen or heard again.
Best case scenario is they delete or just like they did with willow. But they won’t, even is the willow show cost less, had more audience and better public score.
the new rumor is they're gonna do live action clone wars TV series LMFAO!!!
just like Irish Spring, Ahh, the mouse never quits!
[slogan for the soap was ahh, the Irish never quit]
Again with SW...She can use force choke ...Without training
ANDOR is an amazing piece of writing from Tony Gilroy. It has good dialogues, great character development, and an amazing casts. Its central message is about rebellion against an oppressive gov't. Very relatable to real world oppressive gov like the CCP. As if ANDOR exists in a parallel universe where Star Wars don't suck!!!! LMAO
I'd just like to say that Andor's viewership went UP as the series progressed because it is the only series of any quality produced during these "dark times" of Disney Star Wars.
No, no I am not watching the Assolyte! I'd rather play Free Safety against a MAC truck.
No and thank you for taking one for me. Via con dios~!
Why would I? This isn't Star Wars.
Before George Redefined the Jedi into Baby-snatchers, Jedi Men and Jedi Women got Jedi Married and had Jedi Kids. No Snatching Necessary.
We are all watching it through the RUclipsrs that are complaining about it.
What is The Acolyte?
Every Star Wars show is losing more and more viewers lol. But for acolyte, it fell off a cliff. Disney is truly an example of what not to do.
That graph... minutes watched for first 12 weeks. ... Subheader (still in pretty large letters) then says Acolyte only has 5.5 weeks worth of data vs 12 for the others, and no one talks about this?
Even if you double the line, you still end up with the least watched SW show on that graph there. So the point stands and the conclusion isn't wrong. But that's still a /really/ misleading graphic, and people either don't notice or choose not to mention it. Kind of sus. I basically agree with everything said, but using graphs like that (without at least mentioning the issues) only damages credibility, guys.
This show is almost as good as anakin killing the death star
I haven't watched since Carrie Anne Moss died 5 mins in ep1. Absolute garbage
Have Hope fans!
While the Acolyte shared many production values of a show on The WB. It just wasn’t as entertaining as Charmed.
Haven’t seen 1 episode of thatcrapfest…checked out at Star Wars …a long time ago…😂….still have my childhood vinyl cape Jawa….anyone intrested😂😂😂
"people are hate watching it" lol
Nope. Pure mock watching. As in their are more people watching this show to mock it on RUclips than people honestly watching the show.
Mocking Disney has become a lucrative industry.
I saw the first 2 episodes wasn't impressed. When I heard about ep 3 I checked out in advance
to reply ur question the answer is NO - I watched first 3 ep and was so bad I had to quit - even on a comedy level watching how shit it was I couldnt go on
I tried 3 times to watch Andor. Put me to sleep every single time. Can't get thru three episodes.
Do you know about hate watching ?
they claim to be in the youtube comments but I guess they aren't actually watching ot either 😂
So…they’re trying to reach a young crowd. Okay cool. Now they’re trying to reach a more female crowd. Okay, but you’ve left out a segment of your original viewers. Now you’re looking to cater to the female/LGBTQ crowd. So you’ve dwindled your viewership down to a very, VERY small segment of the viewing demographic, and -cism and -phobia are to blame? No, Moonlight, Brokeback Mountain, Everything Everywhere All at Once, all did very well with critics and audiences. Why? Because they weren’t Star Wars! If Darth Vader landed his shuttle on Brokeback Mountain, fans and critics would say it’s completely out of place because Darth Vader has as much business in Brokeback Mountain as Brokeback Mountain does in Star Wars. And it’s not just LGBTQ messaging that’s not so subtly included. For instance, there wasn’t a pie fight in the climax of The Exorcist. There weren’t jump scares from undead nuns in Blazing Saddles. It’s called losing the plot, Disney, and shielding yourselves from it by attacking fans will not regain it.
8 people is too much for a stream guys. I watched 30 seconds of this before I turned it off.
Is this show good yet?
Empire Strikes Back - one of the better Star Wars movies
One of the best films ever
Why do you guys talk over each other? Take turns for goodness sake.
It’s like a fun puzzle for you to figure out exactly what we’re all saying. Hope it didn’t distract too much from the show. We will do better in the future. Thank you for listening. Or at least, trying to listen.
Not watching. Zero interest in Disney's iteration of Star Wars. Cancel your Disney Plus subscription now. Why pay to watch them destroy the legacy of Star Wars.
Star Wars is dead...
Obi wan was such a pointless pile of 💩 The plot was offensive. I can’t imagine who they thought was going to watch these shows.
Well, imho, in order to form a legit opinion you have to watch it first. And it was very dissapointing, after a mediocre start the writing fell apart in a single season worse than LOST did with it's final seasons.
One at a time, guys
where does "Versus" come into play? Get some opposing opinions on to the stream.
It's not canon
Give the Star Wars franchise to Tony Gilroy!
No im not watching it. I cant wait till its over so we can change the subject
Well if more people watched The Book Of Boba Fett than Andor, popularity doesn't matter. Personally I've watched every episode of Acolyte, and I give it a 6 out of 10. It's Ok, it's not spectacular. But if you were to believe the comments online, it's the catalyst for the end of western civilization.
Yes, I watched the whole thing. I'm not even a big star wars fan, watched original 6 movies, most of them on my fathers vhs tapes, liked it but that's pretty much it. I liked watching the acolyte. But don't get it mistaken - the show is horrendous, the writing is absolutely worse than trash. But it was enjoyable to watch in the meaning that it was so bad and dumb it was good if you know what I mean. I got so many laughs out of this show. Also I'm a believer of not blindly following reviewers opinions but form my own first. In case of this show every reviewer bashing it is right
You had Revenge of the Sith on a VHS tape?!
@@deadso I think so lol it was a long time ago but pretty sure
@@Nazwabezcyfer Might be worth something these days
@@deadso Probably but it's long gone
i dont watch it, it is just waste of time
Nope
Moat women in my experience like soap opera drama, relationships, love stories. You have female nerds, my wife has a couple friends who are into nerd stiff. But they aren't a majority of females. The stuff I like, Godfather, action films, Barbie ripped on dudes mansplaining the Godfather. They aren't watching it and I am a lifelong Stat Wars fan who hasn't watched anything Star Wars since Obi Wan. This is failure and it's more fun to watch you giys rip on Stat Wars than it is to watch Star Wars.
You guys all talk over each other
unsub and leave
😂
A clip of 8 people talking all over each other is unwatchable , so I just go watch something else
I'll be glad when youtube people stop obsessing about star wars. Time to move on ladies and gentlemen. Lots of people are not into star wars, including me.
The chart is a lie, unfortunately. Acolyte numbers are for 5.5 weeks, while the rest are for 12 weeks. That said, extrapolating it is still the weakest.
No
Besides you guys?
Nope.
Andor is Star Wars for people who grew up with the OT and are now old... It's a much more mature show than most of their other output and would have done very well had it come after Mando S2 or Rogue One. Also if they'd been bothered to market it at all. Many old SW fans had already been overcome with apapthy when Andor came out (I was one) and passed it over. Word of mouth made me watch it finally and it (along with Rogue One) are the only Disney Star Wars shows that I think perfectly complement the OT. Mando S1&2 are good, but they couldn't leave it be. It ended well... But no, we've got to try and milk it for all it's worth and in doing so via Book of Boba Fett, Mando S3 and now the upcoming movie, they've sown apathy for that IP also by oversaturation and a marked decline in the story telling.
Peak irony is that Disney doesn't understand what kids want. They also don't understand what existing fans of the IP want.
Nah man, Andor was never going to work. It’s Star Wars but functionally without the force, lightsabers, or space battles. So, they went and took out all the spectacle and focused on drama. I’m glad people like it, but you’re delusional to think Andor was ever going to appeal to a mass audience same as OG Star Wars.
Not to mention, most people who praise it say you need multiple episodes to really get into it. So, you want people to watch multiple hours of a show to see if it’s for them? If you can’t capture the audiences attentions in the first episode, you’ve failed. Maybe more people who like Andor should understand that while pilot episodes have started to fade due to streaming, that doesn’t negate the purpose of the pilot episode.
Also, Mando season 2 was bad too.
@@bwhere45 I'll agree on the slow burn of Andor. It's not a sexy endeavor and it's not for everyone, but it's amazing TV. We got a great build up from the tension in the prison to the release. Then we also had that that tension build up with the antiquities house politicking, culminating with that legendary monologue on Coruscant. They gave ultra nerds (fans who actually buy stuff) creative fragments of lore from other SW projects and films. We got to see active rebellions taking place at the ground level. We got more of a sense of the ways these characters were subverting fascism. Imps were not shown as bumbling idiots. They were shown as gatekeepers of their little fiefdoms. They showed the warts of that life. It wasn't a cartoonish caricature of humanity in white armor falling over itself. It wasn't a social justice showcase. It was a deeper narrative about choice making that anyone who has experienced a good bit of humanity could relate to. It was beautiful and I want more.
Mando 2 I will accept as a fun popcorn adventure. That show should have stopped there though. Jedi Academy should have been the next spinoff.
@@deepzone31 a slow and worthwhile burn it may be, but you have to understand that it's unreasonable to ask your average viewer to consume multiple hours of content to see if they're into it.
Truly, I've heard nothing but almost universal praise, but that won't sway me. At best, what we were given was one good season, nothing more. Disney will tamper with it and I've watched too many shows that were cancelled in the second or third season in the last 10 years to truly care about a show that clearly doesn't have a chance. I can't imagine KK and Filoni won't get their hands on it and mess it up before there's a reasonable conclusion.
For Mando, if they had gotten rid of baby yoda like they appeared to be, it might have had a better chance (but I kind of doubt it). Who that show appealed to (star wars fans) is very much not the audience Disney has any care about keeping around.