Revisiting Wycombe Air Park in Microsoft Flight Simulator for the CORRECT RWY24 visual circuit
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Following feedback and further research, we're back at EGTB Wycombe Air Park in the Cessna 152 in Microsoft Flight SImulator doing the runway 24 visual circuit. It's an interesting circuit because it uses many visual cues, and has a detailed briefing document available to download from the internet (see below). It combines several skills and techniques in one exercise, so is a great challenge to practice.
Thankyou so much to all that have provided feedback so far - both in terms of basic airmanship, procedures, and their own experiences, techniques, and tips. It's invaluable.
You can find information on the RWY 24 circuit in the following places online:
bookeraviation....
www.wycombeair...
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I'm 57, been a PC gamer forever. Never had the slightest interest in aviation. Never owned a flight simulator because they seemed boring, like what, you just sit there and watch stuff go by. So finally I got MSFS a few months ago, started with the 152, 172, and now flying the CJ4. I've learned so much from your videos. Now I can input my flight plan and happily sit here for hours just watching stuff go by and I am having a great time doing it. Thanks for the continuing education.
You're welcome :)
Flying an aircraft requires constant attention from the pilot, and you were flying VFR traffic pattern, so have to look outside for visual cues. So you are doubling up your workload. Then you were explaining things and instructions to us, plus to deal with the recording software on top of all these...Hats off to you! Great job! Much appreciated.
Cheers :) The odd thing? After a few circuits, it starts to become completely normal :)
Absolutely fantastic job with this teaching flight Jonathan. I'm really enjoying all of your videos, and I have to say... even after 35 years of flying in Microsoft's flightsimulators, I'm still loving every moment of it! Reviewing your video flights and listening, I'm still learning new things and little details that are adding to the enjoyment I get from flying. Thank you very much for your time. 🙂 -Glenn
Thank you! :)
I'm just adding my two cents worth. The main reason runway references are used is that flying to other airports, may be unfamiliar territory, so obvious points on the ground may be unknown. References to the runway apply anywhere and helps focus on the runway and the aircraft's relative position to it. In the real world the runway is easier to observe. In a sim it can be tricky with limited views.
Absolutely - but if you flew into this particular field and flew a generic pattern, you might cause a noise complaint :)
I wish navigraph 8 had circuits for each airport for us who fly a lot of GA. It would be great if we can switch to the VFR map and see the circuits. Thanks so much for the video love your content.
It has quite a few - I imagine they have licensed the data from somewhere.
Well, EGTB has the circuits on the Navigraph VFR map. Also for instance EHGG in the Netherlands, where I live nearby , or even the very small EHST, with VRP's mentioned. And the heli routes in London.
Generally, visual cues within a traffic pattern (circuit), are references to the runway itself, not points on the ground. Fly upwind perhaps a mile. Downwind leg is about a mile from the runway. At a 45 degree angle from the corner of the runway, turn on base leg. Turn on final when appropriate in a standard turn. However, one can also use points on the ground that match references to the runway. Deploy 10 degree flaps just before turning to base leg. 20 degrees on base leg. Full flaps are not deployed on final until you know you can make the runway in case of engine failure. During touch and goes, transitioning from landing to take off raise flaps a notch at a time, pause a moment between notches, so not to induce a stall at low altitude.
A standard circuit in the south of England is often modified to adhere to Noise abatement rules. The turns are done with reference to the ground. 24 RH at EGTB is one. As is 06. As are many more.
Well Said Well said indeed must be a pilot
one forgot before turning base to look out the left wing when the RWY is on the edge of the wing 45 degres or so fly a little more then turn base if left pattern
@@mikecoffee100 Not in this case - the pattern is very specific in terms of where you can fly over High Wycombe. Interestingly, the night pattern is completely different again.
@@jonbeckett ahh right Thank You and that OZ flight on Sunday was fantastic though can't always make it on time though
You did a much better job handling the c152. As a US pilot, the ground reference point traffic pattern is a foreign concept to me. We fly a pattern in reference to the runway. However, I do understand the that the Wycombe pattern procedure is in place for noise abatement reasons. A good lesson for everyone to learn is to do your research on all aspects of your flight before you get into the aircraft. Flight planning and preparation is key to flying an accurate and realistic flight in the sim. Good job Jon.
Cheers :)
Thanks Jonathan. This instruction is invaluable for everyone!
I think instruction might be the wrong word - more "shared experiences" lol
@@jonbeckett A true gentleman and scholar. You underestimate yourself. You are an excellent communicator and teacher. We greatly appreciate you :)
Well done Jonathan as a ex PPL pilot at Booker High Wycombe, that was as a very accurate pattern from 24 you nailed it. They be happy with that IRL so without 3D, instructors, real life views it’s somewhat easier in real life than doing it on a pc with all the handicaps that has.
And as you correct say, they have a unique pattern at Booker & height in part due to the noise abatements, also the Heathrow approach airspace is just above & the fact that helicopters & gliders often use the grass and south side of airfield at the same time!
They always called the thing you called obelisk the “stokenchurch mast” & “golden ball” for church.
Amazing job & huge congratulations- you deserve a cuppa tea & bacon sandwich back at the club house! 🥓 ☕️
👍💜👍
Fantastic feedback - thank you! I know the girl that runs the cafe at the club house - will have to go visit her one day :)
The Golden Ball is even an POI in MSFS2020. As good as the scenery is in the sim, I find it still quite difficult to fly visual and recognize the on the charts mentioned visual cues.
@@renefeijen5916 It does indeed - but unless you're in 4K, you're not going to see it from a distance :)
@@jonbeckett I had poi marker on....
Pumping out the videos 👍👍 keep up the great work
Thanks! Will do!
Let's go buzz the poor villages shall we?
If only :)
I say... low and slow.... Harrier!
Navigraph VFR map shows the circuit quite well. Doesn't reference the visual aids though.
Yeah - the links in the description are quite good.
Are you using the default 152? Is the Jps mod worth using?
I'm using the most basic of basic stock 152s :) The JPS mod caused issues with other things in the simulator when I tried it.