It's True. Persimmons Can Kill You. Should You Risk Eating Them?
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- John from www.okraw.com/ shares with you how eating persimmons can potentially kill you!
In this episode, you will how John learned persimmons can kill people, plus his research regarding how this occurs and how to prevent it so you can be safe if you choose to eat persimmons.
First, John will share how persimmons can kill you, which is due to some of the tannins that are contained within the persimmon. The tannins are concentrated in the seed and the skin of persimmons.
You will discover how the tannins and stomach acid in some cases can cause bezoars or an indigestible mass that accumulates in your digestive tract, sometimes causing a blockage. This blockage does have consequences and has killed people. Specifically, when a bezoar occurs from persimmons they are phytobezoars because it is from a plant and more specifically called a diospyrobezoars as it is a more common plant-sourced bezoar.
You will discover that some people are more prone to getting bezoars, who have pre-dispositions some of which include people with ulcers or had ulcer surgery, people who don't have good stomach acid, people who have had gastric surgery, people who have Crohn's disease, are dehydrated, have hypothyroidism, have loss o pyloric function, people with diabetes, people with impaired gastric mobility, have slow digestion and more. People with more than one predisposition are significantly more prone to bezoars.
You will learn some of the potential symptoms of a bezoar, which include but are not limited to pain, stomach distension (Swelling/bloating), nausea, vomiting, and loss of appetite.
You will discover some of the common treatments for bezoars, including surgery and physical removal of the blockage, plus some more non-invasive ways, such as coca-cola, enzymes, and citric acid.
Next, you will learn how to minimize your risk of having this occur:
Don't Eat astringent persimmons
Choose non-astringent persimmons instead
Do not eat unripe persimmons esp if they make your mouth pucker
Do not eat seeds and skin of persimmons
Do not over consume
Chew into mush or blend to create a smaller particle size
Do not eat persimmons with high protein foods such as meat and milk.
Be especially careful if you have any preexisting conditions that are associated with this medical condition.
Finally, you will learn why John will continue to eat & enjoy persimmons while they are in season.
After watching this episode, you will learn about the danger of eating persimmons and how some people are more prone to this situation occurring than others. You will also learn John's opinions on this topic and some ways that may be able to reduce your risk.
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Hmm I usually question everything but now it’ll include any new “super” fruit/veg that comes on the market/ it could mean life or death. I’m really glad that you posted this 👍☺️ Thank you 🙂
I think the better question is exactly how did they die. It could be it was coincidence. They say almond seeds can kill you but in fact the seeds kill cancer.
it kinda hard to die by almond seeds but it is possible due to the fact it has some bits of cyanide
Some people may not realize but water can kill you...if you drink enough of it. As he said...moderation is key to survival. Personally I eat 1 a day....but sometimes I want 2 or 3.
I've heard apricot seeds kill cancer when eaten in small amounts (max amount varies depending upon body weight).
Wow. I was the 1st viewer!!! I love persimmons!!! Special Holiday Treat!!!
I ate all the persimmons in this episode and Im still living :)
i know im not sure about dying from it
😮
I eat 300 to 400 persimmons in a winter, mid Nov to mid January.
I know this video is old, but I watched it today…and it’s excellent. I appreciate your humility, information, and energy!
Thanks for the excellent information!
They wont eat persimmons but theyll eat disgusting meat and nasty gmo Thx john
I only eat good meat. And lots of it.
Are you joking? EVERYTHING is GMO!
Adding persimmons to juices = nectar of the gods. Persimmons, oranges, pineapples... 😁
I freeze the persimmons and eat later when it's not in season.
At home I used to eat 20-40 persimmons a day n everyday ..I love them so much in my country . 3varieties of chocolate persimmons n 2 varieties of orange regular . now I'm in India n they have here only 2 orange persimmons that r not my favorite varieties . I can't Believe persimmons can hurt ppl ))) cz in my country (Uzbekistan) we eat tons of them almost till March
I must visit Uzbekistan then. I have only recently discovered persimmons and they’ve become my favorite fruit. They only have two orange kinds where I live and they’re hard to find.
@@doyouevennaturebro4593 yes ,pl visit !) Chocolate color n even some varieties of orange color r so delicious n flavourful. Some ppl like hard non astringent ones others prefer when soft ))u' ll love all the fruits there )
I miss the chocolate one’s.
They’re cone shaped, firm, and really SWEET.
@@creativ3vision here we have flowershaped ones and round ,cone also and chocolate inside .I've noticed this year mostly chocolate types are there n less of orange flesh ,i like them too !))
Persimmons grow wild in rural Missouri where, as a child, I would eat them throughout the day just so I wouldn’t be forced by hunger pains to go inside the house and disrupt my play time outdoors.
John I got a bezoar from persimmons just last month. They were ripe organic fuyus, the flat ones. Got 25lbs for 40$ from the Berkeley farmer's market. Went to persimmon island for 2 days eating pretty much nothing but the delicious fruit. I started to notice some discomfort in my stomach but kept eating them anyway whenever I was hungry. By the 2nd day I finally had to chill and research and came across the information on bezoars. It was uncomfortable but not too bad. By that point I had eaten 2/3rds of the 25 pounds. So I spread the last third of em out over a week. Talked to my other raw friends about it and nooone had ever had that happen. Since then I have still been eating them lol cuz they are delicious and in season. Sometimes I eat 5-10 at one time. I have not had any discomfort with them again since then. Fyi I usually eat a very well rounded fruit and vegetable based living foods diet. Every once in a while I like to monomeal or even go to a particular fruit island eating one fruit solo for a day or two. Thanks for the info John. I think I just had to get used to them.
I don't have any health conditions. Fully healthy.
I ate the skin. Not the seeds of course lol. Since then I continue to eat the skin and have not had any problems again.
I had a hernia surgery when I was 2, maybe my stomach wires are crossed?? 😭😂😅. For real tho I've been eating tons of persimmons since and no problem again.
Did the person die "with" Persimmon or "of" persimmon? As for unripe persimmons, who would actually want to keep that vile substance in their mouth?
I had no idea about unripe persimmons until I bit into one. I thought my tongue had started to grow hair 😥🥴
@@Keishawaxandtats yep, unforgettable.
John. Thank you for the information. I feel we should keep a perspective on this issue. I am no scientist so I am just sharing my point of view here. There are so many other foods that might be so much higher in tannins such as tea, coffee, wine, grapes, mint, basil, blue berries.... If we google, there are so many other food items with tannins that people consume EVERYDAY. So given that not so many of us eat persimmons seeds and astringent skin or meat of the fruit, should we not be more concerned about other food items with tannins consumed everyday? Some might have died from "persimmons" but were they not feasting on tea, coffee or wine as well? There seem to be also 2 kinds of tannins so I am not sure which kind creates the problems and which food item has which or both.
There are many types of tannins, for some reason this situation is more common with the specific type of tannin in persimmons. I agree, people should have some tannins in their diet for their benefit, but too many may not be a good thing.
Would like to know more about tannins-as a child I would get sick from iced tea ?
I wonder if this is how my husband got his bezoar. We love persimmons. We look forward to them every fall and we eat a lot of them.
I took a bite of one that wasn't ripe.It was excruciating.i can't see anyone being able to die from unripe persimmons as just a tiny taste will cause you to immediately spit it out.
I had my first taste of persimmon this month.My daughter moved to a home that has a persimmon tree.I felt it was slightly sweet but didnt have alot of flavor.I peeled it and sliced it.I did notice that it cleansed my palate.So the food I ate after it,tasted better than usual.I guess it was the tannins.
Only eat persimmons when the skin has dark spots and they are very soft-THATS a ripe persimmon.
@@cherryboo65b56 Thank you.🙂👍
Who eats the seeds anyway. I take out the seeds first then eat them.
I’ve never found seeds in persimmons
I ate an unripe persimmon before. It was a very disturbing party in my mouth lollll. I need to try a ripe one.
You MUST let a frost hit them before they are edible.
@@eyeYQ2 I bought them from a store so I have no idea if a frost hit it or not ☹️
Same here. Never tried one again after that.
Great video, John! Very helpful, and might not be as “alarmist” as some in the comments are suggesting…
Had a BAD bout of constipation last year that required a couple months of rehabilitation to FINALLY resolve. I naturally sought answers online, found your video, and wondered if some persimmons I ate were at least partly to blame. Guess I didn’t really believe it because I forgot ALL about it. Now I’m once again suddenly crapping marbles (when I can manage to evacuate SOMEthing) and once again wondering why, DAMMIT!
At this point, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that it’s persimmon season! But I never eat POUNDS at a time-they’re just too expensive. At most, I’ll have one or two of the more non-astringent Fuyu a day, here and there. But I guess it just doesn’t take much for me. Plus the persimmons sold in the store are never PROPERLY ripe and sometimes never ripen, but DANG do I LOVE them! Even when they’re only slightly sweet and still got a bit of a crunch!
…That is, I’ve LOVED persimmons (past tense.) Will have to stop eating them, I think, and pray that restores the “move”. 🤞🏼
This has happened to me... I will have to stop eating persimmons too, its a shame as they taste lovely.
Eating a lot of bananas can bind you up ,also eating prickly pear cactus fruit can definitely bind you up because of all the tiny seeds.i think the astringent varieties of persimmons would be worse because they probably dehydrate the body & absorb a lot of fluid while getting digested.
I bought some seeds from Albania and wasn’t able to grow them on my backyard. Could you give me some ideas to be able to grow them the right way
Thank you 🙏🏽
Great info ! 💯 I Love Persimmon ❣️
I ate 3 Persimmon everyday from Nov till yesterday. I came to visit my nephew in San hosh. I am alive.
Absolutely love the Chinese persimmons not too fond of the other other type though . I have eaten a lot of persimmons Peel and all. and never had an issue.
I think not just persimmon
Every fruit should be eating with conscious
I usually eat only one persimmon a day and not everyday
I eat spontaneous
Every unripe fruit is always troublesome!
I mix pureed persimmon half and half with pumpkin to make pumpkin pie. Persimmon provides all the sugar and pectin needed to make super healthy pumpkin pie without sugar or cream or eggs.
Good to know actually I have a friend who is gluten free and lactose intolerant I may have to find a recipe to make an alternative
@@boocrimson7720 You can make a pie out of nothing but pureed persimmon. Just bake it and it produces a firm texture. But it is boring. Needs added tartness and spices. Same with persimmon bread. Plenty sweet without any sugar added and jellies up well without needing eggs. I use coconut cream in a can as a substitute for milk cream in a lot of recipes.
where can I buy the persimmon trees? Thank you
I thought I was gonna be clickbaited LOL
Once I ate a persimmon and immediately felt pain in my chest, vision started to turn black, I really thought I was dying. No idea what it was. But sometimes rarely I still it them.
I ate the skin...is that ok?
No. Leave the gel cover on the seeds too. Use a spoon to scoop the fruit off the skin. Persimmons are ripe when they have dark spots and soft.
I always eat the skin. Mind you I see it like an apple. Some people enjoy eating the whole apple and yet others prefer to peel off the skin.
Also, there are two types of persimos. Astringent and non astringent. Basically, astringent persimmons have to be completely soft and squishy. When you open it, it should have a jelly consistency. At this point you can eat it with a spoon. Scraping all that delicious jelly out. Or eat like I do, I enjoy the skin as well. The non astringent persimmons you have to eat crunchy as long as they're not green and they changed color to an orange you can enjoy it like you would an apple. And I also eat the skin of non astringent persimmons.
On occasion I like to cut the non astringent persimmons, squeezed lime juice on it and sprinkle a little salt or 'Tajin' chili. And it's very delicious 😊. Hope I was a bit of help.(oh yeah don't eat the seeds I never eat the seeds, apple seeds are also poisonous if you eat large quantities of them so really don't eat the seeds).
@@daysiq.8279 The lime tip comes in handy 👍for the stores where I live sell mostly the astringent type🙃 and I so love persimmon 🙂
@@daysiq.8279 thanks for the information. I think I had the one that doesnt get the non astringent persimmons. I didnt see any seeds. I ate the entire thing except the stub on top. Wow I wonder of I had a gmo since there were no seeds & I ate 3 of the within a 1 week span. I feel good. No body aches.
Thanks for the video. There was a lot of good information along with warnings about how to eat persimmons and what foods you might not want to eat with them. Would it be ok to blend persimmons with nut milk or is there too much protein in nut milk?
I have a 3 year old saijo persimmon tree. Not much flavor, it's just extremely sweet. I do add them to my smoothies to sweeten them. But other than that, they aren't enjoyable. I was gonna rush to chop it down since it could kill me, but I guessed I should actually watch the video first! LOL Thanks for the info John.
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What are the black spots outside and in. Are the inside black spots safe to eat? Ive seen to much black inside this year! Any idea why?
Thanks for this video. It was well researched and very informative. Subscribed
I am eating persimmons as I watch. Repeatedly going through the drive-thur is not too good for your health either. Thanks for info,
Persimmon is an American fruit, ( Diospyros Virginiana) the original Grandaddy of them all. The tree is native to Virginia and 1,000 mile radius. The fruit is awful, small, about 1 Inch in diameter, thick skin, has 6 seeds, and very astringent, even when ripe. The core wood is very hard and a popular "Wood" golf club. By mid1800's the Chinese had tinkered with the botanical work and came out with a few varieties with larger, more edible fruits. Being very secretive in nature, the Chinese were exceeded by the Japanese who were independently working on the same. Their effort were more popular and sold world wide. Recent findings also revealed medical uses of some contents.
Persimmons are a favourite fruit in southern Italian diets/cuiusine .my parents grew up eating them,& then when they migrated to Australia planted a tree in the front yard but before it began fruiting we were always gifted some from friends & relatives during the fruiting season.our favourite are the "sloppy" varieties...lol ..& the ones that have a vanilla taste & fragrance.sometimes we would have 3-4 at a time when there was plenty of ripe ones, without any intestinal problems..when my child was young i would take out the sloppy yummy sweet pulp & put it into moulds & make ice pops rather than purchase crappy store bought junk.great vid John,thanks for all the info.💚🌿
5 mins into the viseo still not saying why it can kill u
I have a history of gastroparesis so I just stick with the Fuyu persimmons since there is very little concern with the non-astringent varieties. And only have one or two a day max.
So eating more is bad for you?
Same here with Crohn's disease. I eat only one of the non astringent and it's okay. The astringent varieties and I'm in deep trouble and have to go to the ER
Hi it's me the laundry basket gardener. I love all your channels :)
If very ripe, frozen is great too
Great advice!
Favorite holiday fruit! All the different kinds of persimmons!
I ate one and i am still alive
Man I love persimmons ♥️ thanks for sharing your knowledge man❗️
what an interesting video.. i have been having problems digesting persimmons myself and have vomited on a number of occasions after eating them.. i may well be one of the affected persons then.. i am not aware that i have ulcers or low stomach acid but certainly my mother suffers these which i assume could be inherited which may lead to digestive isues with certain foods..
Thanks for the warning. I have bad history of intestinal blockages.
Wow, still kicking. Howdy dude
Its persimmon season and last night I ate a bunch of persimmon but I woke up at 3 am in intense stomach pain that I could not explain until I started reading on persimmon and their dangers
how are you now
I freeze hole soft Persimmons in freezer in freezer bag, when ready to eat take out from freezer live out for short time and pears off skin, eat delicious .
Thank you!! Did not know this. Great information!!!
Hi im New to growing persimmons. I put in a chocolate persimmon tree & picked to early. I knew on 1st bite. How do you know when a chocolate persimmons is ready or do you let it drop?
The best indicator is when the birds are picking them. You can pick it early and let it ripe in a bag.
You have to know whether they're an astringent variety or a non-astringent variety. The astringent type you have to wait until a good frost to harvest (you can ripen them in the freezer, too) the fruit. The non-astringent type you can eat from the time they turn orange.
Awesome video!
Keep up the great work!
Is CO2 treated persimmon healthy / optimal?
I had a persimmon for the first time. It was orange in color. Soft fleshly like between a tomato and mango..sweet level about 5-6...but awful wood taste that's like chewing bark..
I have Crohn's disease and if I eat the astringent varieties I go directly to the ER. But the non astringent ones like the Faufau, if they are well ripe, I'm ok with them. I eat only one and not 4/5 like I used to.
I need often not well ripped up persimmons seen they do not grow up where I live, and I often felt uncomfortable, now I know why
Thank you. Love the breakdown. The doctors are the last folks I'll ask on anything. I appreciate your energy 😊
you're out of your mind.
These appear to be Asian persimmons. American persimmons are much smaller.
I had to see this. I bought some persimmons and eating them for the first time. They are so sweet. I'll finish this batch but no more persimmons for me.
Terrible 😞 loss !
Ty for your extra research.
I never heard of these fruits!! Thanks you Jon
You never heard of persimmons? May I ask what country you are from? I'm from the U.S., West Coast, and they sell them in most grocery stores when in season. They are delicious.
Thank you for your video
Very informative 😉👍
I almost died from hearing the word persimmon so much
I just had 2 persimmons from my friend's yard 😉 I am listening your video while making a strawberry shortcake
How big is your farm?
Open the seeds they have a spoon or fork inside to for tell winter. Spoon heavy winter Fork light 💚 I love persimmons ♥️♥️♥️
My mouth breaks out when I eat persimmons. I guess I should not eat them anymore...
I just watched another youtube vid saying drinking plenty of Coca cola will flush a bezoar through in a couple of weeks. The acid in the drink dissolves the blockage. I guess any drink with the same amount of acid would do the trick if this is true.
Guy probably died cuz he had diabetes
If eating persimmons is wrong, I don’t want to be right.
Persimmons is my favorite fruit
Thank you for the info ❤
Can persimmons be consumed when they are are a golden yellow color, but somewhat soft? 🙂💚*
you can eat them hard dude
I love you John!!!!!
Got couple packages so i watched the whole video thanks!
why always poop in the toilet? Why not take a crap in the yard or in the crawl space underneath the house?
🤗he slept/no longer looks tired af 🥰
Persimmons are my fav fruit in the whole world but readi g the description, it seems like they can easily kill you which is a bummer because i just bought a whoke bunch of them and im on a high protein diet. Might aswell just throw them away
I have been eating these for years as well, i only go for the really ripe ones, never eat the skin!
This could be a problem probably for someone who doesn't follow a simple raw vegan diet and can be backed up in the first place! Sprouts kill more people every year...I eat a lot of these as well jeje
I always eat the skin -why not ?
@@ritahall2378 Yeh no problem with that i think, at least for the ones that are really ripe! i just don´t eat it myself that´s all ;)
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I love persimmons 😁💗👍👍
Sounds like a drug I heard not to drink milk when eating persimmon thanks John for the long video lots of info
There isn't a nutritional thing which exists in a persimmon that you can't get elsewhere w/o the black warning label. Since they don't taste so awesomely different than any other kind of fruit, there's nothing you're missing by excluding this fruit from your diet.
Sugar kill
Potatoes are poision
But they fry the hell out of em
Go see Poke berry and white potatoes.. ok
I ate a persimmon and afterwards let out a tremendous fart that blew the face mask off a crowd during covid. I ate two more right after and broke more wind that caused a dust bowl!
Accurate story out of china as the one rare outlier case? Yea, right lol. That's the last country to expect real science and documentation to come out of historically
ridiculously long video. no thanks.
Oh my God
not trueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
💚💚💚
Its Bible fat food
Clickbait
I have lots of japanese persimmon Sir
Persimmons taste nasty
The Persimmons have Covid 19
What a clickbait title!😮 I didn't expect that from you, of all people. I've been watching you for years. I learned lots, but this is crazy. Drinking water can kill you. Driving a car can kill you. Ridiculous, but, oh well. I passed it up at first, then saw it was you. I like your videos, but this triggered me. I'm going outside to pick my persimmons and settle my ass down.😂
Please for the love of God stop wearing the mask with other guests on your show I love you John you don't have to wear that silly mask with that nice girl you had on as your guest
God, you're SO right! But, John seems to be under THE mind control, of it all.
Personally I agree but he is really damned if he does and damned if he doesnt.
These days someone will ALWAYS be butthurt about something!!! 🤷🤦😜
Yes. John for Gods sake. Forget the mask forget medical science and go back to the time when we didnt know that viruses didnt exist
@@raydkii John tends to go 'with the flow' he conforms. MAYBE, he's afraid, and believes the FAKE news that wants TO ENSLAVE/KILL humanity. These times are very difficult. WE HAVE TO FIGHT TO STAY ALIVE! ; ) Wearing a mask only kills brain cells....you're breathing your own poisons!
@@eyeYQ2 but I like jon alive!!
Persimmon is an American fruit, ( Diospyros Virginiana) the original Grandaddy of them all. The tree is native to Virginia and 1,000 mile radius. The fruit is awful, small, about 1 Inch in diameter, thick skin, has 6 seeds, and very astringent, even when ripe. The core wood is very hard and a popular "Wood" golf club. By mid1800's the Chinese had tinkered with the botanical work and came out with a few varieties with larger, more edible fruits. Being very secretive in nature, the Chinese were exceeded by the Japanese who were independently working on the same. Their effort were more popular and sold world wide. Recent findings also revealed medical uses of some contents.
EGD with Propofol you will be tripping but the high will only last 20 minutes unless you request Michael Jackson his favorite juice propofol strong drug
EGD with Propofol you will be tripping but the high will only last 20 minutes unless you request Michael Jackson his favorite juice propofol strong drug