*Everybody gangster until a german studio musician starts with "Lieber Herr Bogner...".* The equivalent of your mom calling you by your first, second and last name.
Sehr geehrter Herr Bogner ist voraussichtlich ohnmächtig geworden, weil er sich viel Mühe gegeben (und auch die beste Mütze von der Welt hochwertiger Mode gefunden) hatte, um dieses Gerät zu entwickeln und produzieren mit nachfolgendem Umsetzen von Marketing-Aktivitäten. Deutsch macht Spaß!
Hoffentlich kann Herr Bogner ein Video unter dem Titel "Ich?! Und hab nicht gut klingendes Gerät gebaut?! Ich hab den Schuss nicht gehört!" machen, in dem Steve Lukather wird Uberschall FX-Vorrichtung mit präzedenzloser Begeisterung "Kohle, dieses Gerät klingt sehr gut!" spielen.
What a time to be a guitar player. Anyone can basically have a fly rig from 300-500€ that could stand its ground against a 4x12 with a 100w tube-head in live applications. Wasn't the guy in Cradle of filth touring with like a mooer preamp + IR loader?
To my ears, the difference was in the chords, the tubes seemed to retain more clarity whilst also being dirty. You could still hear all of the individual strings.
I've always been a fan of using transistor dist in the FX loop of a tube amp. If your clean channel is on edge of break up, and then you engage a tube screamer with level = 10, gain = 2~4, and EQ sweep at anything above noon, and then you have a metalzone in the loop with the gain at the same setting, it just gives you another tone to play with, and the sound is basically 70/30 split between the metalzone and whatever your amp sounds like, respectively. On neck pickup, if your gain isn't already over the top you can even switch to your dirty channel and still engage the metalzone for some nice lead tones, or for neck pickup rhythm tones that still have the thick, meaty distortion of a bridge pickup but with rounder palm mutes and a more nasal, vocal single note tone.
Hello Kristian ! You did the right question ! Transistors (solid state technology) are projected to be linear, clean and transparent ! Tubes are non linear, changes their voice by volume and unfortunately could be microphonic ! 🤓Back to the question, I tried these set up : wha pedal, Krush OD (Ex Gear), Fullbore Metal (MXR), Cab M (Two notes) ! All the metal tones in a pedalboard package without the weight of a wall of tube amps ! The secret is try new combinations, new pedals and dare it ! 🍻
I cannot believe you haven't tried the two aggression modes accessible via the little switch between Gain and Volume. It makes a significant difference and might have added the "rattle" you were missing in the Revv G4. ;-)
@@KohleAudioKult Ok, it looked like the switch was in the middle position all the time. Well, it wasn't a full review of this pedal, but a demonstration of the complete rig. Good job and thanks for all your videos. Take care. ;-)
My Randall broke, and I looked for 2 days what could replace it for a small amount of $$ but still professional... I came up with the exact same thing, but with the G3 instead of the G4. ...and yes, check up the revv amps!
I thought about a similar scenario for myself: what if my Engl Preamp 530 would break to a point that I cannot repair it? I could imagine going with a G3 AND a G4. Adding a SD Power Stage or similar power amp and you're done. I'm not making records, just trying to have fun with the guitar tone and producing decent demo mixes. This kind of setup - in my opinion - is all I would need (plus a good noise suppressor, a few other little tools as well). No need for a big amp for me...
@@poulwinther From the reviews with comparisons, I always prefered the G3. I never tried the G4, but I tried a G3 in a shitty 25W Crate transistor amp (in the front). Funny thing is, the guitar was a cheap Warlock with Fishman Fluence pickups, and it sounded brutal haha I can't imagine with a good guitar and a good amp, it must be killer!
The way it was explained to me in audio engineering school was that tube amplifiers tend to accentuate even harmonics, while SS sound more harsh because odd harmonics are more prevalent. Either way, great sounding SS rig, but the tube still wins to my ear
It actually seems vice versa. The tubes tend to give more harmonics and overtones, while SS sounds more straightforward, not having some little kinky details.
I NEVER thought of this, to try to put a distortion pedal into a power amp. So many times I was not able to adjust the settings to get it the way I liked it and gave up and went back to just using amps. Now I have a fun weekend challenge sometime to go try all the pedals into the power amp. Thank you!
The thing to bear in mind is that the best recorded guitar sounds very rarely have an all-valve signal path, especially when it comes to distortion. The thing about valves, sonically at least, is that they have a different type of capacitance to them and that makes certain frequencies in the upper register respond differently, as the capacitance in the valve coupled with the physical space that the electons have to cover creates a complex interplay of phase cancellations and waveform distortion that plays out uniquely every time. There's potentially scope to do some jiggery-pokery with DSP to simulate that but it's going to require a lot of engineering to get it to sound authentic because you could very easily end up sounding like a ring modulator unless you have the programming chops and hardware to sample the input, decode it, apply the attenuation, phase cancellation, and compression that a valve would impart across many, very narrow frequency bands via an algorithm that uses the calculations from the analysis of each sample to apply a constantly changing set of very small adjustments to the signal. An IR loader does something similar but it's really just applying a static EQ profile based on a breif recording of the amp through a microphone, which creates a close enough facsimile for recording and live sound but isn't actually simulating the actual behaviour of the amplifier so much as it's making it sound like a recording (which is what most people actually want and they probably wouldn't be able to tell unless they were actually using an oscilloscope to analyse a recording of the two on reel to reel tape with an all analogue signal path, which isn't worth anyone's time if it sounds good anyway)
I picked up a Pedal Baby a few years back because I found a great deal on a used one but have never used it. Definitely thinking of playing some different drive pedals through it now though. Had planned on just using it for wet cleans.
I have a transistor and a tube amp, both are Randall (Rg1503 and the Rd100) I`ve used them in a stereo setup live and at rehearsals, sounds awesome to me! Feels like using best of both worlds together, some kind of a wet`n dry setup.... And since 3 month`s ago i got a Mesa Boogie Dual rectifier, can`t go wrong with that one! Btw Dimebag was the king of transistor amps! Have a good one, cheers!
I had Bogner Überschall pedal before and I agree: it's not what you expect from Bogner… Right now I'm using MXR 5150 into NUX Solid Studio IR & power amp sim - sounds descent on the budget.
I had Bogner's Red, Blue and La Grange pedals, loved them all. Got the Überschall and sold it within a month - it's not even in the same class as the others.
I work away all week (I'm a truck driver) so taking a valve amp with me really ain't an option so I've made myself a little portable rig the signal path is as follows.... Epiphone SG Prophecy>Beringer tuner>Digitech Drop>EHX east river drive>Wampler SLOstrotion>Orange Getaway driver out using a 3.5mm cable to the aux in on my bluetooth speaker. I use the digitech drop to down tune from e standard/drop d to anything I'm practicing at the time since taking loads of guitars ain't an option so while it ain't quite the same it does the job pretty well. The EHX east river drive is a tube screamer and the SLOstortion and getaway driver give me different flavours of distortion and the getaway driver has a normal out and a cab sim out which sounds awesome imo... However I might consider swapping out the SLOstortion for one of those REVV pedals...they sound awesome
Great video, like always. Thanks Kohle :) But I bet this: more tweaking on the controls on REVV and Power amp would make the sound even closer, and then a blind A-B test. For sure a lot of us would fail to spot the real amp. A lot of times on stage I used an EVH 5150 pedal into a Quilter Powerblock power amp and a 2x12 Mesa Cab. Crazy super good sounding rig. No one...I mean...no one could tell that I was playing a solid state distortion and amp. Things changed in the last few years, many setups now are mind blowing, and they don't include tube amps.
I own a MXR FullBore Metal pedal (it has a bad reputation). It works great in a tube amp clean channel with a little preamp overdrive added to it. Direct to the power doesn't sound that good. It took me some time to figure out how to make it sound well, but finally did it. The reasoning was the opposite to an overdrive + tube amp. This time the pedal was the distorted origin + a slight overdrive from the amp.
I love MXR Fullbore Metal and I don't understand why it has a bad reputation ! It gives me all Dimebag's tone more than his signature pedal by MXR ! Last May I found a new pedal , Krush OD by Ex Gear pedals, I use it than Fullbore ! All Metal tones from Marshallish to Engl through Mesa Boogie !
Maybe it could be reasonable also to get the second guitarplayer with a half or full stack (-s) in a band. Advantages are that, for example, Jack Owen (ex-Cannibal Corpse and ex-Deicide) uses Floor Pod Line 6 into a crate amp (I am afraid that he can find Vox Amplug), while the second guitarplayer plays Mesa or Marshall and so on. The same for Rammstein. The video is modern as always.
In this comparison, for me it was tubes all the way, the transistor rig was defenetly usable but more sterile and it sounded best when connected to the tube power amp section. When connecting distortion pedals to the clean channel try having Low on 1 Mid on 10 and treble on 1, a lot of eqs are actually flat on this setting.
If the only tone I was after was brutal, beautiful heavy distortion that Brunetti would be all I would want to play all day long. Man it sounds so beautiful.
Yeah also DS-1 is a fucking beast I got the MOP tone on a budget with a DS-1 it's so mean like an raging doberman pinscher that it scares the living shit out of me
I'm liking the Quilter Overdrive 200 gain with a TS9 for portable transistor distortion. The head is small enough to fit on my board. I just use a long speaker cable for use with cabs.
The closest thing to a tube is a JFET transistor. To get the big picture a Fuzz makes a waveform that can be drawn as a square, a Tube would be shaped as a square but the top would be a semi circle. A JFET is a square put the corners are rounded off :-)
Bro Greg rocked this Revv pedal as his MAIN Preamp on the last 2 Pro-Pain Tours... I rocked my usual 5153... but man.... His lil pedal board rig worked GREAT! 🤘🏼😜
@@KohleAudioKult I'm also trying to get my hands on one of those Seymour Duncan Power Stage 200 Amps to Experiment with some Small Rigs.. But I would have a hard time getting away from using a real head when gigging... maybe I think they sound or feel better... or maybe I just think its more Rock n Roll! lol Definitely, once this shit is over and the Pro-Pain Train is back on the rails you'll have to come out and hang. 🤘🏼😜
Excellent video! Totally agree with the conclusion... The thing is that for a gigging situation the transistor solution IT'S REALLY A SOLUTION!! because you're not going to gig your beloved tube amp night after night, right? And you're not sacrificing the tone... When on tour, you have to be practical...
Great video. Next time try lowering the gain on the Revv Pedal and lower the Lows and Presence on the Seymour. The overtones inthe amp seem to be somewhere between mid mids and mid highs. The Revv was too tight due to too much gain. Rock on. Your channel is a favorite.
i know your saying no tubes but one mini cheat that gives that tube air thing is to hit the revv with a maxon td09 squeeze that extra 10 percent and gives a bit of breath to solo tone, but yes in a mix double tracked smacking riffs could be done, great back up rig, nice one k
Yeah I can hear the difference with the tube amp and the power amp when you are hitting the high notes!!! You got that warmth with the tubes little more soul !!!
@@KohleAudioKult makes sense. the psa 1.1 was exactly what paul landers was using in the very early days of rammstein. :D he switched to the gt-2 shortly after and has always used that until he got his own signature fly rig a couple of years ago (which sounds frickin amazing to my ears btw. :D).
I like the hybrid system of an analog distortion pedal into the effects return of a tube amp. Try a metal zone that way, it takes away all that annoying fizz. Fender kind of does it with their super champ x2 with different amp voicing on the preamp into power tubes. To me it sounds better than a preamp tube into solid state power section. I was hoping to hear them both in a mix with bass and drums. That's when you know how it fits. Maybe next time?
You have a great ear. Love that rattle. It's the depth of creaminess caused by the bloom of electrons in a vacuum that transistors fall short. Additional harmonics create a complex sustain versus the more sterile solid state. Just barely. Tubes are fragile, finicky,hot and inefficient. Solid state should be durable, weather resistant,cooler, smaller and lighter. Usually don't like modeling amps but a light portable amp that can go from Fender blues to Marshall rock to modern metal I will consider. Make it portable battery or plug.
The key here is the Seymour Duncan Power Stage, that's what's emulating good tube amp distortion. Plenty of pedals can be used with it and sound great, including the Metal Zone. I personally use the Two Note's Torpedo Wall of Sound plugin to emulate tube distortion along with my pedalboard, sounds great! For live use I use a Tech 21 Blonde at the end of my pedalboard and it sounds just as good as Wall of Sound or the Power Stage. And would you believe that even the MXR Fullbore Metal into any of those sounds AMAZING!!! Doesn't have to be a Revv G4, but I know it's a great pedal too. TLDR: Find a good power amp + mic'ed cab sim, whether it be pedal or plugin, and couple that with your favorite distortion pedals. :)
My Solid State path is: Gtr - (Wha pedal) - Krush OD (Ex-Gear ) [Rhythm/Boost] - Fullbore Metal (MXR ) - CAB M (Two Notes) !!! It gives me all Dimebag's tone !
@@lucasiciliano Nice! Yeah man, the MXR Fullbore + Two Notes is a winning combo! Fullbore is just a killer preamp pedal in general, it's a shame it's often considering a can of bees (which it can be into the front of an amp if it's not set exactly right).
Right, Metal Zone as a preamp is amazing. But I play my Metal Zone from the guitar into a Randall RG100ES, and it's great for a sludgy sound, not for metal especially. The "darkness" of the sound help the sludge coming through. I like both, tube and transistor.
I wish there was more info/availability on the AMT stuff. The Stonehead 50 and 100 rack mount are very interesting, but I'm not gonna drop $600-700 sight unseen.
Excellent, as always. One request - please consider using another amp, either instead of or in addition to the Brunetti. The Brunetti is beautiful, But the Mesa, for example, will be a more familiar sound to most of us
The reason for using the Brunetti is that it really sounds “middle of the road” in a good way. A Rectifier just sounds too special (scooped, ballsy and grindy) for a comparison like this.
i prefer the voicing of the G3, but the revv pedals are no joke. the MXR 5150 pedal slaps too. the friedman pedals are solid. KSR ceres (from my hometown :D) is a game changer. especially if this is a live rig. in the studio, under a microscope, we can hear all the differences with the harmonics. live? considerably harder to pick out. i've been running digital amps and effects processors for 10 years and have had people YELL at me that i won't give up my "secrets" and tell them what i was REALLY using.
Amazing. So I can just buy a Seymour Duncan powerstage instead of a big amp combo or head. At least I just need to worry about the cab when going to gigs. I just bought the Revv G4 today. Will save up for the Powerstage 200. Thanks a lot.
I think the Revv pedal itself needed some treble turned up, the biggest difference I was hearing was that the “sizzle” wasn’t matched between the two, which inherently made the tubes “feel” more exciting. Imo if you pumped the gain and a little bit of treble on the rev, they would have been damn near identical!
The Revv pedal is basically a preamp pedal, not a distortion pedal. It's modeled after the preamp section of their flagship amp, so running it straight into a poweramp makes sense. Nice tones, btw! I was expecting the Revv pedal into the Brunetti power amp to sound very close. High gain metal tones are quite harsh and 'cold' compared to other high gain tones. Even with tubes, the clipping isn't as smooth as it can be with an amp that isn't 'made for metal.' However, when comparing hybrid amps to full tube amps, the power stage makes a huge difference. Without introducing any power tube saturation/distortion, you can still get that 'bouncy' sound of a tube amp. I've been wanting to do this 'reverse hybrid amp' idea for a while, but now you've made a great video about it. Now I know for sure it's something I want to experiment with more often.
Ich benutze das Amt P2 Pedal. es befeuert die SD120. Bin sehr zufrieden. Kannst du das auch mal reviewen? lieben Gruss. P.s. Deine IR‘s sind super. Danke dafür
The transistors just not distort on the same level of gain. For fair comparison, you have to align the INPUT level entering in the amp/pedal. It's like reducing the volume of the guitar on a tube amp... less volume, less overtone. B oost the input of the ReVv4 and you'll get a little more closer.
Never liked the powerstage 170 because it sounded way too dark even cranking the highs. With the 200 at least they added a presence knob. As always great stuff Kristian! 😎
Working at festivals I've noticed these Seymour Duncan Powerstage amps becoming quite popular for their portability (especially for fly-in shows) over the last few years. My favourite solid state amps are Quilter Overdrive series tho: they sound pretty sick, and I'm not exactly a fan of class D amps.
I love a good tube amp as well, have owned many and play my Marshall every day. But there is no doubt that solid state has improved by leaps and bounds since the 80s and it will eventually be able to match every tube characteristic.
Hehe, I have the Uberschall pedal. I personally like it, but I agree with everything you said about it. Typically I use it as an extra punch in the face channel on my already dirty sounds. For that use, the lower gain actually works in favour of the pedal because it doesn't fuzz up the whole thing, it just makes it more aggressive. It also grits up a clean beautifully
It's amazing how far transistor/digital amplifier technology and amp simulator technology has come. In software and hardware both. That setup sounded great, and it could basically fit in the palm of your hand.
I'm very satisfied with my Marshall 100 MG head and cab it cranks really well, also my Line 6 FireHawk it kicks ass ...and yes i also have a Marshall Tube half stack as well
The "All Tube Setup" with a TubeScreamer at the front made me smile ;). Cool video Kristian, I actually use a somewhat similar setup at home: Ibanez TubeScreamer -> Revv G3 -> Two Notes Le Clean -> Laney IRT-X. As I use the green channel of the Le Clean, all distortion comes from the G3 and it sounds very good to me. According to Revv, the G-Pedals mimic the sound of a channel of their big Generator amp. Might be a cool test to see how close they are if you want to check out the big amp anyway (and have 3700€ to spare on it).
Not that any companies will see this comment, but here's a product I'd love to buy: A power amp pedal that uses a pair of full size tubes, preferably interchangeable (i.e. accepts el34, 6l6, kt88), and stereo input/output. A class A that only uses 1 tube would be good, too.
Should use a Behringer Vintage Tube Screamer. It's not a tube AMP, but it's a tube PEDAL and it screams for 90$. Idk about modern metal with it though as I don't have fancy mixing stuff, but it definitely has a tube sound.
Tubes are just less linear and that’s what makes them more desirable. Finesse in your playing brings out different tones where transistors just kind of always give you a generic response. It’s hard to articulate. No pun intended.
a brutal combination are the Darta Effects pedals, Dr Boogie (Dual Recf voice) + mini Mega (power amp)....... and is true that the pedals sonds great into a power amp, it is a good option for who doesn't have a tube amp, or how option for recordings, i love use pedals into direct a power amp, go to cab, mic, and interface, that's the way, and sounds awesome.
I have next to my Marshall DSL 40c with a Tube Screamer . Also a Laney-Hardcore 30watt Transistoramp,my Les Paul Special in to that Amp sounds also Great. But I miss some of the dynamics of my tube-setup.
I’m curious on how that transistor setup, or one similar, would sound with a bass guitar. That might be some good videos, using guitar pedals for bass guitar & bass pedals on guitar.
Tube distortion generate even harmonics, transitor disortion generate odd harmonic. Transitor when distorded are basically a clipper, tube still keep some micro dynamics in front each wave. ;)
That's a little too simple. Of course you have both types of harmonics in both tube and transistor distortion. And modern JFET circuits are quite a bit more complex that those old school diode clippers.
I find it interesting that we all love our tube amps/distortion and prefer it to the "horrible bad nasty no good" transistor distortion . . . yet we record a track or two or four then we eq it and compress it and Mic place it and reamp it . . . so much for that natural tube tone lol
I have a similar setup. guitar > grindstein > revv g3 (grindstein loop) > Two Notes Cab M / Duncan Powerstage 170 Works great at home or at the rehearsal space.
OMG! Kristian, I have an Ampeg VH140C! I bought it back in 1999. 2x12 combo. Sounded amazing when I got it. Now I have a Mesa Dual Rectifier which is WAY better than the Ampeg. Still, the Ampeg gives me some crystal clear clean tones. Man, I was starting to think I was the only person with one of those amps.
Thank you for demonstrating the g4 with a tubescreamer! I have the g3 already but want a little more saturation but still very tight. I'm sold! And as always... your riffs and tones are monstrous! Fuck yea, man.
You're right about the voicing of certain pedals, as many seem voiced as preamps rather than distortions for clean channels...it's probably cliche, but Ola Really blew this wide open with his video of the Metal Zone through the power amp of his Randall Satan...I think the Amprweaker products would likely fall under the this category, especially the FatMetal and TightMetal pedals...
Have you tried any of the AMT Legend II series preamps? I've been collecting as many as I can because I love them so much, they handle high gain incredibly well. The P2 (based on 5150), the D2 (based on Diezel VH4), and the M2 (based on JCM800) are probably my favorites. Plus, they have really flexible outputs options so you can run em as just preamps into a power amp or cab IR, a drive output to put in front of a clean amp, or a cab sim output to run totally direct.
Bro, awesome video, I'm still using my DOD fx86 death metal through the effects loop of the boss ns2 noise suppressor, lots of people complain that it's too noisy but, if you use a noise gate with it, you can get it to sound amazing through any amplifier, you just need to tweak it, it sounds just as good as the grindstein if you set it right, there's no gain control on the pedal either, you just have your level, bass, mids and treble. 🤘🤘🤘
I finally got my katana head to sound great with a few additional pedals. I even had the prs mt15 and sold it because the katana and joyo zombie were doing it good enough for me so sold it and got an electronic roland Drum set to expand my musical interests. Savage drive, ts9, guvnor and an amazon insanity distortion pedal. Depending on the situation I go through the katana clean or use several 3rd party amp patches and a blend of the pedals to add color to the tone. Jcm 800, duel rec, saldano, and 5150 patches
I have a G4 clone and found that it's more like a preamp and needs a boost in front. With my MXR Custom Badass OD it works well. I ran it into the line in of a Crate Powerblock into my 2x12 with G12K speakers and it sounds good. On the solid state topic, have you played through an AMT Electronics SH-100-4R? I have owned one for over a year and still really like it. It's portable and lightweight. I still can't believe they put all of this into 1 rack space!!!
I used a Earthquaker Devices Acapulco Gold (power amp distortion pedal) pushed with a OD pedal into a 70w solid state power amp for rehearsal a while ago. Sounded very good but wasn't that loud, I had to use all the volume the power amp had to offer to be heared. I think a BluGuitar Amp1 Iridium would maybe even easier to lug around and cheaper than your setup.
Which pedals have replaced your tube amps?
NONE! Love my amps ;p
Sansamp and Darkglass)
Not a DAMN one!
AMT SS-30 Bulava
amp-sims 😅
Love this video! The chainsaw with blood dripping from it is the best visual ever to describe that sound! Haha Genius!
I agree haha!
*Everybody gangster until a german studio musician starts with "Lieber Herr Bogner...".*
The equivalent of your mom calling you by your first, second and last name.
Could be worse "Mein lieber Herr Bogner" would be a declaration of war.
❤️🍺🤪
Sehr geehrter Herr Bogner ist voraussichtlich ohnmächtig geworden, weil er sich viel Mühe gegeben (und auch die beste Mütze von der Welt hochwertiger Mode gefunden) hatte, um dieses Gerät zu entwickeln und produzieren mit nachfolgendem Umsetzen von Marketing-Aktivitäten. Deutsch macht Spaß!
Hoffentlich kann Herr Bogner ein Video unter dem Titel "Ich?! Und hab nicht gut klingendes Gerät gebaut?! Ich hab den Schuss nicht gehört!" machen, in dem Steve Lukather wird Uberschall FX-Vorrichtung mit präzedenzloser Begeisterung "Kohle, dieses Gerät klingt sehr gut!" spielen.
What a time to be a guitar player. Anyone can basically have a fly rig from 300-500€ that could stand its ground against a 4x12 with a 100w tube-head in live applications. Wasn't the guy in Cradle of filth touring with like a mooer preamp + IR loader?
Exactly my feelings during the video!
yeah, that little 5150 modeler with the Mooer Radar to load cabs \m/
Whaaat?! I have to check him out now
Was just thinking that the revv plus the mooer radar would suffice
@@rd_rae preciselly what I use, thru an tube amp...!
The KSR Ceres can more than hang with tube amps. thing sounds better than plenty of tubes amps. should give it a shot.
Agreed 100%
Yeah i got a bunch of preamp pedals in 2020 and the Ceres outclasses them all by a mile
Lmao I just commented this. My ksr Ceres honestly sounds just as good if not better in a lot of situations than my evh 5150iii
Among the most underrated guitar channels on RUclips. Excellent video.
Thanks man! Spread the word!
Great video again! I use a bit similar stuff live with Cyhra: SD-1 -> Friedman BE-OD -> Neunaber Iconoclast -> PA 😎👌.
To my ears, the difference was in the chords, the tubes seemed to retain more clarity whilst also being dirty. You could still hear all of the individual strings.
"Lieber Herr Bogner, dieses Pedal ist nicht gut!" :D
Tolles Video, Kristian!
I've always been a fan of using transistor dist in the FX loop of a tube amp. If your clean channel is on edge of break up, and then you engage a tube screamer with level = 10, gain = 2~4, and EQ sweep at anything above noon, and then you have a metalzone in the loop with the gain at the same setting, it just gives you another tone to play with, and the sound is basically 70/30 split between the metalzone and whatever your amp sounds like, respectively. On neck pickup, if your gain isn't already over the top you can even switch to your dirty channel and still engage the metalzone for some nice lead tones, or for neck pickup rhythm tones that still have the thick, meaty distortion of a bridge pickup but with rounder palm mutes and a more nasal, vocal single note tone.
Low key thought this would be another quad cortex review 😂
Hello Kristian ! You did the right question ! Transistors (solid state technology) are projected to be linear, clean and transparent ! Tubes are non linear, changes their voice by volume and unfortunately could be microphonic ! 🤓Back to the question, I tried these set up : wha pedal, Krush OD (Ex Gear), Fullbore Metal (MXR), Cab M (Two notes) ! All the metal tones in a pedalboard package without the weight of a wall of tube amps ! The secret is try new combinations, new pedals and dare it ! 🍻
I cannot believe you haven't tried the two aggression modes accessible via the little switch between Gain and Volume. It makes a significant difference and might have added the "rattle" you were missing in the Revv G4. ;-)
Of course I checked those settings. RED clearly was the best one.
No need to try the others in this example.
@@KohleAudioKult Ok, it looked like the switch was in the middle position all the time. Well, it wasn't a full review of this pedal, but a demonstration of the complete rig. Good job and thanks for all your videos. Take care. ;-)
My Randall broke, and I looked for 2 days what could replace it for a small amount of $$ but still professional... I came up with the exact same thing, but with the G3 instead of the G4. ...and yes, check up the revv amps!
Always thought 3 sounded better than 4. Plenty gain still.
I thought about a similar scenario for myself: what if my Engl Preamp 530 would break to a point that I cannot repair it? I could imagine going with a G3 AND a G4. Adding a SD Power Stage or similar power amp and you're done. I'm not making records, just trying to have fun with the guitar tone and producing decent demo mixes. This kind of setup - in my opinion - is all I would need (plus a good noise suppressor, a few other little tools as well). No need for a big amp for me...
@@poulwinther From the reviews with comparisons, I always prefered the G3. I never tried the G4, but I tried a G3 in a shitty 25W Crate transistor amp (in the front). Funny thing is, the guitar was a cheap Warlock with Fishman Fluence pickups, and it sounded brutal haha I can't imagine with a good guitar and a good amp, it must be killer!
@@guillaumeaudet3139 Sounds cool. I don't think the guitar itself matters much but I always wanted to try Fishmans. Did you ever try the Ceres pre?
The way it was explained to me in audio engineering school was that tube amplifiers tend to accentuate even harmonics, while SS sound more harsh because odd harmonics are more prevalent. Either way, great sounding SS rig, but the tube still wins to my ear
Thanks for sharing, makes sense for how it sounds
I feel like i can hear that in the ab test
It actually seems vice versa. The tubes tend to give more harmonics and overtones, while SS sounds more straightforward, not having some little kinky details.
I NEVER thought of this, to try to put a distortion pedal into a power amp. So many times I was not able to adjust the settings to get it the way I liked it and gave up and went back to just using amps. Now I have a fun weekend challenge sometime to go try all the pedals into the power amp. Thank you!
That sounds like a fun weekend! Enjoy!
The thing to bear in mind is that the best recorded guitar sounds very rarely have an all-valve signal path, especially when it comes to distortion.
The thing about valves, sonically at least, is that they have a different type of capacitance to them and that makes certain frequencies in the upper register respond differently, as the capacitance in the valve coupled with the physical space that the electons have to cover creates a complex interplay of phase cancellations and waveform distortion that plays out uniquely every time. There's potentially scope to do some jiggery-pokery with DSP to simulate that but it's going to require a lot of engineering to get it to sound authentic because you could very easily end up sounding like a ring modulator unless you have the programming chops and hardware to sample the input, decode it, apply the attenuation, phase cancellation, and compression that a valve would impart across many, very narrow frequency bands via an algorithm that uses the calculations from the analysis of each sample to apply a constantly changing set of very small adjustments to the signal. An IR loader does something similar but it's really just applying a static EQ profile based on a breif recording of the amp through a microphone, which creates a close enough facsimile for recording and live sound but isn't actually simulating the actual behaviour of the amplifier so much as it's making it sound like a recording (which is what most people actually want and they probably wouldn't be able to tell unless they were actually using an oscilloscope to analyse a recording of the two on reel to reel tape with an all analogue signal path, which isn't worth anyone's time if it sounds good anyway)
The Revv with the Tube power amp, just crunched it up a little more. I liked it.
Peavey XXL. Extremely underrated solid state amp.
seconded. I own one but it's currently broken. hard to find these days!
I would disagree, the mids are like chucking daggers at your ears
I’ve been doing the Friedman BE-OD into an Orange Pedal Baby sounds absolutely killer
I picked up a Pedal Baby a few years back because I found a great deal on a used one but have never used it. Definitely thinking of playing some different drive pedals through it now though. Had planned on just using it for wet cleans.
I have a transistor and a tube amp, both are Randall (Rg1503 and the Rd100) I`ve used them in a stereo setup live and at rehearsals, sounds awesome to me! Feels like using best of both worlds together, some kind of a wet`n dry setup.... And since 3 month`s ago i got a Mesa Boogie Dual rectifier, can`t go wrong with that one! Btw Dimebag was the king of transistor amps! Have a good one, cheers!
I'm surprised you never tried the Revv Generator Amps. There amazing.
Where is amazing?
I think they are a lot more common on the other side of the Atlantic. But I’m pretty sure that will happen sooner or later!
I had Bogner Überschall pedal before and I agree: it's not what you expect from Bogner…
Right now I'm using MXR 5150 into NUX Solid Studio IR & power amp sim - sounds descent on the budget.
I had Bogner's Red, Blue and La Grange pedals, loved them all. Got the Überschall and sold it within a month - it's not even in the same class as the others.
Agree
I work away all week (I'm a truck driver) so taking a valve amp with me really ain't an option so I've made myself a little portable rig the signal path is as follows....
Epiphone SG Prophecy>Beringer tuner>Digitech Drop>EHX east river drive>Wampler SLOstrotion>Orange Getaway driver out using a 3.5mm cable to the aux in on my bluetooth speaker.
I use the digitech drop to down tune from e standard/drop d to anything I'm practicing at the time since taking loads of guitars ain't an option so while it ain't quite the same it does the job pretty well.
The EHX east river drive is a tube screamer and the SLOstortion and getaway driver give me different flavours of distortion and the getaway driver has a normal out and a cab sim out which sounds awesome imo...
However I might consider swapping out the SLOstortion for one of those REVV pedals...they sound awesome
Great video, like always. Thanks Kohle :)
But I bet this: more tweaking on the controls on REVV and Power amp would make the sound even closer, and then a blind A-B test. For sure a lot of us would fail to spot the real amp.
A lot of times on stage I used an EVH 5150 pedal into a Quilter Powerblock power amp and a 2x12 Mesa Cab. Crazy super good sounding rig.
No one...I mean...no one could tell that I was playing a solid state distortion and amp.
Things changed in the last few years, many setups now are mind blowing, and they don't include tube amps.
It’s interesting that the eq on the pedal adjusts the spectral picture but does nothing to the overtones. Very important difference!
I have a quilter i run with pedals too. Great amps!
I own a MXR FullBore Metal pedal (it has a bad reputation). It works great in a tube amp clean channel with a little preamp overdrive added to it. Direct to the power doesn't sound that good. It took me some time to figure out how to make it sound well, but finally did it. The reasoning was the opposite to an overdrive + tube amp. This time the pedal was the distorted origin + a slight overdrive from the amp.
I love MXR Fullbore Metal and I don't understand why it has a bad reputation ! It gives me all Dimebag's tone more than his signature pedal by MXR ! Last May I found a new pedal , Krush OD by Ex Gear pedals, I use it than Fullbore ! All Metal tones from Marshallish to Engl through Mesa Boogie !
Maybe it could be reasonable also to get the second guitarplayer with a half or full stack (-s) in a band.
Advantages are that, for example, Jack Owen (ex-Cannibal Corpse and ex-Deicide) uses Floor Pod Line 6 into a crate amp (I am afraid that he can find Vox Amplug), while the second guitarplayer plays Mesa or Marshall and so on.
The same for Rammstein.
The video is modern as always.
😝🤣Don’t tell him, haha!
Erm Dimebag does come to mind ... I have a moded Fender Frontman that sounds heavy as hell, not tube, not bad just different.
In this comparison, for me it was tubes all the way, the transistor rig was defenetly usable but more sterile and it sounded best when connected to the tube power amp section. When connecting distortion pedals to the clean channel try having Low on 1 Mid on 10 and treble on 1, a lot of eqs are actually flat on this setting.
If the only tone I was after was brutal, beautiful heavy distortion that Brunetti would be all I would want to play all day long. Man it sounds so beautiful.
I agree. I'm a huge Brunetti fan. Very underrated amps! I also have the 053 here. Still need to do a comparison video.
The metal zone is a fucking monster when used as a preamp.
You could also throw in a cheap compressor to the signal chain. Might make it feel a bit chewier.
That’s what you hear in the first audio example.
Yeah also DS-1 is a fucking beast I got the MOP tone on a budget with a DS-1 it's so mean like an raging doberman pinscher that it scares the living shit out of me
I loved my Fender M80 from 1991 my friends were impressed also
I have the Revv G3 pedal and it’s difficult to turn off. That was an awesome video. Thanks.
I'm liking the Quilter Overdrive 200 gain with a TS9 for portable transistor distortion. The head is small enough to fit on my board. I just use a long speaker cable for use with cabs.
The closest thing to a tube is a JFET transistor. To get the big picture a Fuzz makes a waveform that can be drawn as a square, a Tube would be shaped as a square but the top would be a semi circle. A JFET is a square put the corners are rounded off :-)
Bro Greg rocked this Revv pedal as his MAIN Preamp on the last 2 Pro-Pain Tours... I rocked my usual 5153... but man.... His lil pedal board rig worked GREAT! 🤘🏼😜
Live I would go for either digital or a pedal rig these days.
I’ll come see you guys live once the pandemic is over!
@@KohleAudioKult I'm also trying to get my hands on one of those Seymour Duncan Power Stage 200 Amps to Experiment with some Small Rigs.. But I would have a hard time getting away from using a real head when gigging... maybe I think they sound or feel better... or maybe I just think its more Rock n Roll! lol
Definitely, once this shit is over and the Pro-Pain Train is back on the rails you'll have to come out and hang.
🤘🏼😜
Excellent video! Totally agree with the conclusion... The thing is that for a gigging situation the transistor solution IT'S REALLY A SOLUTION!! because you're not going to gig your beloved tube amp night after night, right? And you're not sacrificing the tone... When on tour, you have to be practical...
Great video. Next time try lowering the gain on the Revv Pedal and lower the Lows and Presence on the Seymour. The overtones inthe amp seem to be somewhere between mid mids and mid highs.
The Revv was too tight due to too much gain. Rock on. Your channel is a favorite.
i know your saying no tubes but one mini cheat that gives that tube air thing is to hit the revv with a maxon td09 squeeze that extra 10 percent and gives a bit of breath to solo tone, but yes in a mix double tracked smacking riffs could be done, great back up rig, nice one k
also try the space charged crazy tube circuits v2 for opening the revv up, it fucked my fortin grind off
Received the Quad Cortex last week. Portable and easy ui and sounds good with cheap headrush frfr.
Yeah I can hear the difference with the tube amp and the power amp when you are hitting the high notes!!! You got that warmth with the tubes little more soul !!!
*laughs in Dimebag and Kurt Windstein
Have you seen my Dimebag video from two weeks ago?
Sansamp PSA 1.1 one of the best units. I use it for more than a decade. The basic unit for Abyss Studios
Two and a half decades here.
That was good back then. Kind of industrial sounding though. Like early Rammstein.
@@KohleAudioKult makes sense. the psa 1.1 was exactly what paul landers was using in the very early days of rammstein. :D he switched to the gt-2 shortly after and has always used that until he got his own signature fly rig a couple of years ago (which sounds frickin amazing to my ears btw. :D).
I like the hybrid system of an analog distortion pedal into the effects return of a tube amp. Try a metal zone that way, it takes away all that annoying fizz. Fender kind of does it with their super champ x2 with different amp voicing on the preamp into power tubes. To me it sounds better than a preamp tube into solid state power section. I was hoping to hear them both in a mix with bass and drums. That's when you know how it fits. Maybe next time?
If I use a Metal Zone, it’s always into a power amp!
I have the super champ x2 and yes the models sound pretty great going through the power tubes!
You have a great ear.
Love that rattle.
It's the depth of creaminess caused by the bloom of electrons in a vacuum that transistors fall short. Additional harmonics create a complex sustain versus the more sterile solid state. Just barely.
Tubes are fragile, finicky,hot and inefficient.
Solid state should be durable, weather resistant,cooler, smaller and lighter.
Usually don't like modeling amps but a light portable amp that can go from Fender blues to Marshall rock to modern metal I will consider.
Make it portable battery or plug.
The key here is the Seymour Duncan Power Stage, that's what's emulating good tube amp distortion. Plenty of pedals can be used with it and sound great, including the Metal Zone. I personally use the Two Note's Torpedo Wall of Sound plugin to emulate tube distortion along with my pedalboard, sounds great! For live use I use a Tech 21 Blonde at the end of my pedalboard and it sounds just as good as Wall of Sound or the Power Stage. And would you believe that even the MXR Fullbore Metal into any of those sounds AMAZING!!! Doesn't have to be a Revv G4, but I know it's a great pedal too.
TLDR: Find a good power amp + mic'ed cab sim, whether it be pedal or plugin, and couple that with your favorite distortion pedals. :)
My Solid State path is: Gtr - (Wha pedal) - Krush OD (Ex-Gear ) [Rhythm/Boost] - Fullbore Metal (MXR ) - CAB M (Two Notes) !!! It gives me all Dimebag's tone !
@@lucasiciliano Nice! Yeah man, the MXR Fullbore + Two Notes is a winning combo! Fullbore is just a killer preamp pedal in general, it's a shame it's often considering a can of bees (which it can be into the front of an amp if it's not set exactly right).
Right, Metal Zone as a preamp is amazing. But I play my Metal Zone from the guitar into a Randall RG100ES, and it's great for a sludgy sound, not for metal especially. The "darkness" of the sound help the sludge coming through. I like both, tube and transistor.
AMT's preamps are really good. I tried P2 and SS-30. Also they have Stonehead which is head)
I love those :0 I got a few of the AMT pedals, the s1, b1, e1, p2, ss-30....I love them with cab impulses
AMT were the only company that did NOT reply when I asked them for pedals. So...
I used the amt vst version by Mercuriall audio for the dark times collab contest and it sounded really good!
I had the P-1 and it was great! Just sold it to help me buy my Laney IronHeart head.
I wish there was more info/availability on the AMT stuff. The Stonehead 50 and 100 rack mount are very interesting, but I'm not gonna drop $600-700 sight unseen.
Funny seeing you go thru this emotional roller coaster 🎢 tubes sound so good
Excellent, as always. One request - please consider using another amp, either instead of or in addition to the Brunetti. The Brunetti is beautiful, But the Mesa, for example, will be a more familiar sound to most of us
The reason for using the Brunetti is that it really sounds “middle of the road” in a good way.
A Rectifier just sounds too special (scooped, ballsy and grindy) for a comparison like this.
@@KohleAudioKult understood. Thank you!
i prefer the voicing of the G3, but the revv pedals are no joke. the MXR 5150 pedal slaps too. the friedman pedals are solid. KSR ceres (from my hometown :D) is a game changer.
especially if this is a live rig. in the studio, under a microscope, we can hear all the differences with the harmonics. live? considerably harder to pick out. i've been running digital amps and effects processors for 10 years and have had people YELL at me that i won't give up my "secrets" and tell them what i was REALLY using.
Amazing. So I can just buy a Seymour Duncan powerstage instead of a big amp combo or head. At least I just need to worry about the cab when going to gigs. I just bought the Revv G4 today. Will save up for the Powerstage 200. Thanks a lot.
I think the Revv pedal itself needed some treble turned up, the biggest difference I was hearing was that the “sizzle” wasn’t matched between the two, which inherently made the tubes “feel” more exciting. Imo if you pumped the gain and a little bit of treble on the rev, they would have been damn near identical!
I'm from Canada, where Revv is from and I still haven't personally tried any Revv gear but I've been wanting to try that pedal so much
Do it. Revv rules
Try a Bluguitar Amp1 Iridium Edition next. :D
The Revv pedal is basically a preamp pedal, not a distortion pedal. It's modeled after the preamp section of their flagship amp, so running it straight into a poweramp makes sense. Nice tones, btw! I was expecting the Revv pedal into the Brunetti power amp to sound very close. High gain metal tones are quite harsh and 'cold' compared to other high gain tones. Even with tubes, the clipping isn't as smooth as it can be with an amp that isn't 'made for metal.' However, when comparing hybrid amps to full tube amps, the power stage makes a huge difference. Without introducing any power tube saturation/distortion, you can still get that 'bouncy' sound of a tube amp. I've been wanting to do this 'reverse hybrid amp' idea for a while, but now you've made a great video about it. Now I know for sure it's something I want to experiment with more often.
I have a couple Revv products. They're truly outstanding
Both are super metal, that's all that matters. Want more tube butter in the leads invest in a preamp tube drive pedal. Great vid man
Ich benutze das Amt P2 Pedal. es befeuert die SD120. Bin sehr zufrieden. Kannst du das auch mal reviewen? lieben Gruss. P.s. Deine IR‘s sind super. Danke dafür
The transistors just not distort on the same level of gain. For fair comparison, you have to align the INPUT level entering in the amp/pedal. It's like reducing the volume of the guitar on a tube amp... less volume, less overtone. B
oost the input of the ReVv4 and you'll get a little more closer.
Never liked the powerstage 170 because it sounded way too dark even cranking the highs.
With the 200 at least they added a presence knob.
As always great stuff Kristian! 😎
Working at festivals I've noticed these Seymour Duncan Powerstage amps becoming quite popular for their portability (especially for fly-in shows) over the last few years. My favourite solid state amps are Quilter Overdrive series tho: they sound pretty sick, and I'm not exactly a fan of class D amps.
You nailded the tubes distortion.
I love a good tube amp as well, have owned many and play my Marshall every day. But there is no doubt that solid state has improved by leaps and bounds since the 80s and it will eventually be able to match every tube characteristic.
Hehe, I have the Uberschall pedal. I personally like it, but I agree with everything you said about it.
Typically I use it as an extra punch in the face channel on my already dirty sounds. For that use, the lower gain actually works in favour of the pedal because it doesn't fuzz up the whole thing, it just makes it more aggressive.
It also grits up a clean beautifully
It's amazing how far transistor/digital amplifier technology and amp simulator technology has come. In software and hardware both. That setup sounded great, and it could basically fit in the palm of your hand.
I'm very satisfied with my Marshall 100 MG head and cab it cranks really well, also my Line 6 FireHawk it kicks ass ...and yes i also have a Marshall Tube half stack as well
have a look at the Orange CR120 head, no tubes at all, yet it behaves almost like a tube amp. really worth checking it out!
The "All Tube Setup" with a TubeScreamer at the front made me smile ;). Cool video Kristian, I actually use a somewhat similar setup at home: Ibanez TubeScreamer -> Revv G3 -> Two Notes Le Clean -> Laney IRT-X. As I use the green channel of the Le Clean, all distortion comes from the G3 and it sounds very good to me. According to Revv, the G-Pedals mimic the sound of a channel of their big Generator amp. Might be a cool test to see how close they are if you want to check out the big amp anyway (and have 3700€ to spare on it).
Oh yeah. I should defininely check out their amps.
The Tube Screamer is not adding any gain in my setup. It's more like an EQ tightening the lows.
Not that any companies will see this comment, but here's a product I'd love to buy: A power amp pedal that uses a pair of full size tubes, preferably interchangeable (i.e. accepts el34, 6l6, kt88), and stereo input/output. A class A that only uses 1 tube would be good, too.
Should use a Behringer Vintage Tube Screamer. It's not a tube AMP, but it's a tube PEDAL and it screams for 90$. Idk about modern metal with it though as I don't have fancy mixing stuff, but it definitely has a tube sound.
Tubes are just less linear and that’s what makes them more desirable. Finesse in your playing brings out different tones where transistors just kind of always give you a generic response. It’s hard to articulate. No pun intended.
a brutal combination are the Darta Effects pedals, Dr Boogie (Dual Recf voice) + mini Mega (power amp)....... and is true that the pedals sonds great into a power amp, it is a good option for who doesn't have a tube amp, or how option for recordings, i love use pedals into direct a power amp, go to cab, mic, and interface, that's the way, and sounds awesome.
Both sound great but, I hear more warmth/fullness with the tube setup. The solid state sounds brighter/cleaner.
BOSS GT-10, MARTY FRIEDMAN TUBE BUFFER +, MARTY FRIEDMAN TUBE PREAMP
Wow. Never even thought to check my pedals thru my power amp instead of the clean!! Thank god I watch your channel!! Ima gonna be busy. Haha. Thanks.
The Revv amps and pedals are great. The Generator 120 is an absolute monster and the G3 pedal is pretty great as well.
when you drive the clean of a tube amp with the revv... it is crazy !
I have next to my Marshall DSL 40c with a Tube Screamer .
Also a Laney-Hardcore 30watt Transistoramp,my Les Paul Special in to that Amp sounds also Great.
But I miss some of the dynamics of my tube-setup.
I’m curious on how that transistor setup, or one similar, would sound with a bass guitar. That might be some good videos, using guitar pedals for bass guitar & bass pedals on guitar.
Noted!
Easy, interface, laptop, parallax or darkglass neural dsp plugins and your are set up
I meant sound wise. There are some of us who cannot simply go out & buy new gear just for it to not sound or work good
Tube distortion generate even harmonics, transitor disortion generate odd harmonic. Transitor when distorded are basically a clipper, tube still keep some micro dynamics in front each wave. ;)
That's a little too simple. Of course you have both types of harmonics in both tube and transistor distortion. And modern JFET circuits are quite a bit more complex that those old school diode clippers.
I use The seymour Duncan powerstage 170 with amptweaker pedal and The sound is amazing
I find it interesting that we all love our tube amps/distortion and prefer it to the "horrible bad nasty no good" transistor distortion . . . yet we record a track or two or four then we eq it and compress it and Mic place it and reamp it
. . . so much for that natural tube tone lol
That studio is a work of art. 🤘🏼
I have a similar setup.
guitar > grindstein > revv g3 (grindstein loop) > Two Notes Cab M / Duncan Powerstage 170
Works great at home or at the rehearsal space.
Oh! I have to try the REVV pedals in my Grindstein loop. Good idea!
OMG! Kristian, I have an Ampeg VH140C! I bought it back in 1999. 2x12 combo. Sounded amazing when I got it. Now I have a Mesa Dual Rectifier which is WAY better than the Ampeg. Still, the Ampeg gives me some crystal clear clean tones. Man, I was starting to think I was the only person with one of those amps.
I think you can sell that amp for a lot of money these days. Everybody's looking for that Suffocation tone and all the doomers seem to love it too.
I like the Black cat pedal alot too, like a fuzz blues pedal but works for metal really well!
Thank you for demonstrating the g4 with a tubescreamer! I have the g3 already but want a little more saturation but still very tight. I'm sold! And as always... your riffs and tones are monstrous! Fuck yea, man.
You're right about the voicing of certain pedals, as many seem voiced as preamps rather than distortions for clean channels...it's probably cliche, but Ola Really blew this wide open with his video of the Metal Zone through the power amp of his Randall Satan...I think the Amprweaker products would likely fall under the this category, especially the FatMetal and TightMetal pedals...
Have you tried any of the AMT Legend II series preamps? I've been collecting as many as I can because I love them so much, they handle high gain incredibly well. The P2 (based on 5150), the D2 (based on Diezel VH4), and the M2 (based on JCM800) are probably my favorites. Plus, they have really flexible outputs options so you can run em as just preamps into a power amp or cab IR, a drive output to put in front of a clean amp, or a cab sim output to run totally direct.
No I haven’t. I asked them to send me some of them. They were the only company that never answered.
Bro, awesome video, I'm still using my DOD fx86 death metal through the effects loop of the boss ns2 noise suppressor, lots of people complain that it's too noisy but, if you use a noise gate with it, you can get it to sound amazing through any amplifier, you just need to tweak it, it sounds just as good as the grindstein if you set it right, there's no gain control on the pedal either, you just have your level, bass, mids and treble. 🤘🤘🤘
Great comparison, I like details and examples and you always deliver. Stay safe stay metal.
Thanks man! Spread the word!
I love this channel so much
So very straight and informative
Honest reviews
I finally got my katana head to sound great with a few additional pedals. I even had the prs mt15 and sold it because the katana and joyo zombie were doing it good enough for me so sold it and got an electronic roland Drum set to expand my musical interests.
Savage drive, ts9, guvnor and an amazon insanity distortion pedal. Depending on the situation I go through the katana clean or use several 3rd party amp patches and a blend of the pedals to add color to the tone.
Jcm 800, duel rec, saldano, and 5150 patches
Pretty crazy to see how much your power amp section influences the tone.
Should try the Revv G3 pedal
I did and really preferred the G4
I love to use an OD pedal + Revv G4 into a two notes CAB M for preamp, poweramp and cab sim. A great combination in my opinion.
the revv g3 is my fav since 4 years
Haha, ich wusste irgendwie, das n Revv Pedal kommt, hab das G3 und bin jedes Mal aufs neue begeistert, wie geil es klingt
I have a G4 clone and found that it's more like a preamp and needs a boost in front. With my MXR Custom Badass OD it works well. I ran it into the line in of a Crate Powerblock into my 2x12 with G12K speakers and it sounds good.
On the solid state topic, have you played through an AMT Electronics SH-100-4R? I have owned one for over a year and still really like it. It's portable and lightweight. I still can't believe they put all of this into 1 rack space!!!
I used a Earthquaker Devices Acapulco Gold (power amp distortion pedal) pushed with a OD pedal into a 70w solid state power amp for rehearsal a while ago. Sounded very good but wasn't that loud, I had to use all the volume the power amp had to offer to be heared.
I think a BluGuitar Amp1 Iridium would maybe even easier to lug around and cheaper than your setup.