@@DefectiveSquash no argument here on the. HC. I merely pointed out that they wasted 1 year of #77 last year by not calling him up until late in the season.
Kane is breaking the record for most passive-aggressive refusal to do anything by a player on a one-year contract in NHL history. The coach has screwed him over badly this year w lineups and likely Yzerman straight up lied to him in negotiations, or there's no way he'd have agreed to re-sign here. But at this point what is the point of him being here? It makes no sense for him, it makes no sense for the team. Trade him or waive him, maybe apologize to each other on the way out for how each side treated the other this season, and move on. If they tell him theyre shopping him they might even get him to play offense again for a few weeks while he tries to impress other teams. This is what happened in Chi in 22-23.
If Kane doesn’t have motivation from your argument then get him off the team. He’s trash and if you’re not gonna play because you don’t like the team surrounding you but you’re making over 6 million against the cap, that’s bs and pathetic. Why would anyone owe Kane an apology for that.
Kane is NOT done. He clearly thinks Newsy is an idiot (And so do I) !!! It is very obvious when you listen to some of the things he says in the interviews, as well as his tone ! I really hope I am wrong....but I don't think I am.🫤
Elmer Söderblom needs to turn into a bruiser. He's huge and needs to be a mean SOB with great hands and hockey IQ for the wings. If he played like that, I'm sure he'd be on the Wings roster. And I'm sure they could have a scoring line with a mean SOB Elmer.
Too many people put expectations on Yzerman calling his shots before he got here pushing the Yzerplan reteric. He has had some great drafting successes but goaltending and FA has been a hot mess (Aside from Kane in FA) our defense is lacking and coaching is questionable. Only maybe 6 players are pulling their weight the rest are floating. I just don't see much direction and I sure as heck don't see an Yzerplan. Whatever that was supposed to be...
Lalond used Cossa to give the team a spark... a selfish move on his part when this was the perfect spot to give Cossa his first start. Now his 1st start won't quite be as special.
Whenever you see a whole team of NHL players floating around not looking quite right or NOT like themselves....(and they. HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD ON THEIR OTHER TEAMS)... that is ALWAYS because of the coaching. Think about it; use your memmory, players like Copp , Terasanko, Gustafsson, Johansson, Compher, etc. were all considered good (or even great) before. (NOT so much with the Lalonde/Bophner system). Different coaches with different systems = different results ! For instance, Joel Quenneville with Patrick Kane...Kane is an ALL star ! Newsy with. Kane...Kane is pretty much average (2nd,3rd liner). The proof is in the pudding....Newsy and Bophner DON'T have what it takes ! Come on Chris Illich, this roster is BETTER than this....Lalonde & Bophner are a hot mess !!!
No grit, we need some kronwall checks to announce to the league you will pay a price bringing the puck into our zone. Stupid swinging of sticks as they blow past us. It has to stop
Lalonde blows and needs to go. It's no wonder they haven't made the playoffs with back to back coaches that had no NHL experience as head coach. And the "Yzerplan" has turned into a joke. He's the Russ Thomas of hockey and he needs to resign. Pitiful leadership situation for the Red Wings team.
The management of this team has been abysmal. The coaching is almost comical, this system is not only terrible to watch, it’s also killing the players desire to play. I’ll never forgive Lalonde for forcing this system down our players throats. Kane is literally protesting every shift, such a huge step back from last season. Go ahead McCarty, make some stupid excuse because you once played with Yzerman.
It's weird, isn't it? That somehow when Joel Quenneville was coaching Patrick Kane and Gustafsson : despite there perceived weaknesses they were both really good ! Somehow he was able to create an offensive and defensive system that allowed the players to be the best version of themselves . That is what "GREAT" coaches do ! Newsy clearly does everything he can to get Kane & Gus to play like they are on the '95 NJ Devils, instead of allowing them to be dynamic and use their BEST assets ! He is always trying to jam the proverbial square peg (Kane, Gus) into a round hole ! IT'S NOTTT WORKING ! We need a coach that understands what Quenneville understands. NOTE : WE NEED JOEL QUENNEVILLE !!!!!
Folks, remember the “Yzerplan” is building a team through drafting. How is that going? Very well. // the FAs leave little to be desired, however as a rebuild progresses you’re going to see some work and some not. The reality is I think most of these FA signings were option c, d and e because high profile guys don’t want to come here until there is more wins coming…. As for Kane, Father Time is undefeated….. I think his time is mostly up. He looks scared to get hurt imo so he doesn’t engage the way he is capable off
Cossa isn’t saving sh*t lol ... last thing we need is to keep Cossa here and ruin his confidence while this teams a turd ... don’t forget we beat the buffalo sabres not Florida panthers Lyon and talbot should be up soon
@ why not ? You didn’t actually think we’d be good this season 😂 anyone who saw us with chiarot petry Gustafson maata and 2 rookies and seider on the back end and expected us to be good were seriously deluding themselves
@socialmediag5485 I highly doubt after last season you thought they'd regress this season. They really only lost Walman, Ghost and Perron but gained Kasper and Edvinsson full time. Outside of top lines they aren't scoring. This is not a bottom feeder team other wise you would see more rookies and not as many vets
Boston got a spark. They fired their coach. Burning Cossa out in losses is not a spark, Cossa will become the next scapegoat. Get rid of Lalonde. Each day with him is a day wasted. Making excuses for Lalonde is the same as doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. It's insanity. We lose 5 to win one? Guess where the Wings will be in May.
Stop making excuses for Yzerman!!!! I know he is your boss but he needs to go! If it was anyone else they would be screaming from the roof to fire yzerman! He is terrible as a GM
Stop it believe in the yazerman PLAN omg they are still finding the plan ,, I hope to God we dont big headed players just play for there names not for on what's on the front of the Jersey
They have to stop playing flag hockey, and start giving the hits instead of taking them. Kane was a bad signing last year and a stupid signing this year. He stands there watching whie his team mates are in a scrum and is great at handling the puck only if an opposing player is not close to him. The juice is deffinately not woth the squeeze.
Everyone blaming the coach, because it’s easy to point at the one guy and blame him. But this roster is flawed. Stevie/pro scouts have made some downright awful decisions. Starting with signing career 3rd line centers in Copp and Compher, after each had outlier, career years, to be the 2nd line center. Horrible player evaluation. Trading Walman while letting Ghost walk. No power forwards on the team…not 1. Trading Hronek (although probably lucked into that one working out). Top 6 wingers are all woefully undersized, get tossed around. Signing Talbot instead of Stolarz (same contract). Ghost walking without replacing him. The list goes on and on. Oh and only 1 legit top 6 center. (All hope is riding on Kasper for that role). If Rasmussen can’t be that top 6 center he was drafted to be, at least he could use his body and play more physical. Wings desperately need that and he could do it.
Derek lalond ruined Cossas debut, not for him he won and had a great game, but it's terrible that his parents weren't able to be at his first ever NHL game and that's inexcusable, he should have scheduled a start for hi especially with husso playing multiple straight after having injury issues that last few years
McCarty is so blasted
D Mac looks like The Ghoul here, the young ones will need to look it up.
Hiyaa gang hiyaa hiyaa hiyaa!!!
Something gotta give this team looks lost
Burning a year of cossa ELC would be so stupid.
Kind of like burning Edvinsson last year….
@TheVlad1616 they were on a playoff push last year. Unless they fire Lalonde this team is doing nothing.
@@DefectiveSquash no argument here on the. HC. I merely pointed out that they wasted 1 year of #77 last year by not calling him up until late in the season.
Kane is breaking the record for most passive-aggressive refusal to do anything by a player on a one-year contract in NHL history. The coach has screwed him over badly this year w lineups and likely Yzerman straight up lied to him in negotiations, or there's no way he'd have agreed to re-sign here. But at this point what is the point of him being here? It makes no sense for him, it makes no sense for the team. Trade him or waive him, maybe apologize to each other on the way out for how each side treated the other this season, and move on.
If they tell him theyre shopping him they might even get him to play offense again for a few weeks while he tries to impress other teams. This is what happened in Chi in 22-23.
If Kane doesn’t have motivation from your argument then get him off the team. He’s trash and if you’re not gonna play because you don’t like the team surrounding you but you’re making over 6 million against the cap, that’s bs and pathetic. Why would anyone owe Kane an apology for that.
Kane is done and needs to retire.
Agree there’s something wrong you can see it in his play and he just looks out of it
Kane is NOT done. He clearly thinks Newsy is an idiot (And so do I) !!! It is very obvious when you listen to some of the things he says in the interviews, as well as his tone ! I really hope I am wrong....but I don't think I am.🫤
@ something’s definitely going on with that team something or someone got them playing like rookies “not all of them” but a lot of them
Elmer Söderblom needs to turn into a bruiser. He's huge and needs to be a mean SOB with great hands and hockey IQ for the wings. If he played like that, I'm sure he'd be on the Wings roster. And I'm sure they could have a scoring line with a mean SOB Elmer.
He is just not a great skater and it takes him to long to get going. You can't have that in the NHL
More wings videos man holy
I like Tam Calbot too 😂
Too many people put expectations on Yzerman calling his shots before he got here pushing the Yzerplan reteric. He has had some great drafting successes but goaltending and FA has been a hot mess (Aside from Kane in FA) our defense is lacking and coaching is questionable. Only maybe 6 players are pulling their weight the rest are floating. I just don't see much direction and I sure as heck don't see an Yzerplan. Whatever that was supposed to be...
Then Lalonde ruined Kane by putting him with two morons and forcing a terrible hockey style on the entire team.
Give Yzerman 2 more seasons, Nygard, Pellika, Danielson, Kasper, are going to cook regardless of copp or compher on the team its going be nuts
Get real, half or more of our players are still developing in the minors...by design.
Lalond used Cossa to give the team a spark... a selfish move on his part when this was the perfect spot to give Cossa his first start. Now his 1st start won't quite be as special.
Lalonde had such a low social IQ, he’s borderline stupid. Can’t stand the guy.
I am not impressed with Kane at all. He didn't even get the puck on net in a shootout.
Whenever you see a whole team of NHL players floating around not looking quite right or NOT like themselves....(and they. HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD ON THEIR OTHER TEAMS)... that is ALWAYS because of the coaching. Think about it; use your memmory, players like Copp , Terasanko, Gustafsson, Johansson, Compher, etc. were all considered good (or even great) before. (NOT so much with the Lalonde/Bophner system). Different coaches with different systems = different results ! For instance, Joel Quenneville with Patrick Kane...Kane is an ALL star ! Newsy with. Kane...Kane is pretty much average (2nd,3rd liner). The proof is in the pudding....Newsy and Bophner DON'T have what it takes ! Come on Chris Illich, this roster is BETTER than this....Lalonde & Bophner are a hot mess !!!
No grit, we need some kronwall checks to announce to the league you will pay a price bringing the puck into our zone. Stupid swinging of sticks as they blow past us. It has to stop
More and more rare nowadays
Remember the Probert days? Giving my age away....ha ha 🤣
Lalonde blows and needs to go. It's no wonder they haven't made the playoffs with back to back coaches that had no NHL experience as head coach. And the "Yzerplan" has turned into a joke. He's the Russ Thomas of hockey and he needs to resign. Pitiful leadership situation for the Red Wings team.
The management of this team has been abysmal. The coaching is almost comical, this system is not only terrible to watch, it’s also killing the players desire to play. I’ll never forgive Lalonde for forcing this system down our players throats. Kane is literally protesting every shift, such a huge step back from last season. Go ahead McCarty, make some stupid excuse because you once played with Yzerman.
It's weird, isn't it? That somehow when Joel Quenneville was coaching Patrick Kane and Gustafsson : despite there perceived weaknesses they were both really good ! Somehow he was able to create an offensive and defensive system that allowed the players to be the best version of themselves . That is what "GREAT" coaches do ! Newsy clearly does everything he can to get Kane & Gus to play like they are on the '95 NJ Devils, instead of allowing them to be dynamic and use their BEST assets ! He is always trying to jam the proverbial square peg (Kane, Gus) into a round hole ! IT'S NOTTT WORKING ! We need a coach that understands what Quenneville understands. NOTE : WE NEED JOEL QUENNEVILLE !!!!!
Not sure I want JQ, but Gru is part of the problem rather than part of the solution.
Kanes done
Folks, remember the “Yzerplan” is building a team through drafting. How is that going? Very well. // the FAs leave little to be desired, however as a rebuild progresses you’re going to see some work and some not. The reality is I think most of these FA signings were option c, d and e because high profile guys don’t want to come here until there is more wins coming…. As for Kane, Father Time is undefeated….. I think his time is mostly up. He looks scared to get hurt imo so he doesn’t engage the way he is capable off
McCarty is right.... they need that spark. Like.. what was the spark for the 97/98 Red Wings......duh
Cossa isn’t saving sh*t lol ... last thing we need is to keep Cossa here and ruin his confidence while this teams a turd ... don’t forget we beat the buffalo sabres not Florida panthers
Lyon and talbot should be up soon
It's not the team it's the coach.
@ its both
@@socialmediag5485 they're in the bottom of the league in standings. This team should not be this bad
@ why not ? You didn’t actually think we’d be good this season 😂 anyone who saw us with chiarot petry Gustafson maata and 2 rookies and seider on the back end and expected us to be good were seriously deluding themselves
@socialmediag5485 I highly doubt after last season you thought they'd regress this season. They really only lost Walman, Ghost and Perron but gained Kasper and Edvinsson full time. Outside of top lines they aren't scoring. This is not a bottom feeder team other wise you would see more rookies and not as many vets
Boston got a spark. They fired their coach. Burning Cossa out in losses is not a spark, Cossa will become the next scapegoat. Get rid of Lalonde. Each day with him is a day wasted. Making excuses for Lalonde is the same as doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. It's insanity. We lose 5 to win one? Guess where the Wings will be in May.
Yzerman is too cheap. So tired of the word “Yzerplan”. If he ever had a plan, it failed.
Bring up Cossa now! The season is already in trash...
Oh my lord this podcast is awful with D Mack, this guy can't even stay on topic
Stop making excuses for Yzerman!!!! I know he is your boss but he needs to go! If it was anyone else they would be screaming from the roof to fire yzerman! He is terrible as a GM
Stop it believe in the yazerman PLAN omg they are still finding the plan ,, I hope to God we dont big headed players just play for there names not for on what's on the front of the Jersey
Trouba? Shoulda been a Red Wing in the off season buuuut
..............aaaand he's been sent down to GR.
They have to stop playing flag hockey, and start giving the hits instead of taking them. Kane was a bad signing last year and a stupid signing this year. He stands there watching whie his team mates are in a scrum and is great at handling the puck only if an opposing player is not close to him. The juice is deffinately not woth the squeeze.
Everyone blaming the coach, because it’s easy to point at the one guy and blame him. But this roster is flawed. Stevie/pro scouts have made some downright awful decisions. Starting with signing career 3rd line centers in Copp and Compher, after each had outlier, career years, to be the 2nd line center. Horrible player evaluation. Trading Walman while letting Ghost walk. No power forwards on the team…not 1. Trading Hronek (although probably lucked into that one working out). Top 6 wingers are all woefully undersized, get tossed around. Signing Talbot instead of Stolarz (same contract). Ghost walking without replacing him. The list goes on and on. Oh and only 1 legit top 6 center. (All hope is riding on Kasper for that role).
If Rasmussen can’t be that top 6 center he was drafted to be, at least he could use his body and play more physical. Wings desperately need that and he could do it.
Wings are garbage. Fire coach and Stevie.
What’s up with Dmac? Dude been living rough
He is a pothead and most likely is drunk too
Derek lalond ruined Cossas debut, not for him he won and had a great game, but it's terrible that his parents weren't able to be at his first ever NHL game and that's inexcusable, he should have scheduled a start for hi especially with husso playing multiple straight after having injury issues that last few years
This is a business you know.