My first kit was one of those ultra-cheap "Beginner" sets, and ALL it did was ring sympathetically. I learned to live with it, because I had no idea what to do about tuning drums, and gradually just took for granted that the toms (especially the rack tom) were going to make the snare wires vibrate like mad. When I finally got my real kit, I was so overjoyed that I didn't have to deal with sympathetic crosstalk! But if you guys say so... As always, thanks Ben and Cody for another fascinating, fun (the look of sheer joy on Cody's face as he was hitting that floor tom!), and informative video. You guys rock!
I love this. It's a hard to swallow the fact that it's very difficult to eliminate all snare buzz, but when I tune I try to make sure the buzz is consistent around the drumset. It's annoying when 1 rack tom buzzes the snare, but the floor tom doesn't at all. I'd rather have a soft buzz from all toms when I play.
I really enjoyed the effects, thanks guys. Also, I totally agreed with getting out of ruts, even just using different parts of the kit for a fill or a little embellishment can challenge your muscle memory, so you have to think and not rely on auto-pilot. I do this regularly, and quite often find new sounds. Thanks Ben and Cody!
Wonderful! It brought me back to being a kid drummer again. “What would happen if I ..?”. We had only the one kit, and we heard all these New Wave sounds on the radio and tried all kinds of crazy ideas. But that got lost along the way, and I turned into the drummer you mentioned - stuck in a rut. This series has sparked that inquisitiveness again. Here’s to ya!
Your videos over the years are an incredibly useful resource, and very much appreciated. I often refer back to them. I do prefer meaningful titles - if you must resort to clickbait, please at least include some clue what the video is about.
Thanks so much! All of our episodes are meticulously tagged to make it easier to find even without the use of the title or thumbnail as an aid. If you're looking for an additional clue as to what the video is about, please refer to the description. Cheers!
Can you do a video on hitting really hard vs soft. When playing live do i have to hit really hard to bring more energy or will the mics do all the work and am i wasting energy. Does hitting softly give better tone. Also include cymbals
I've been thinking about this lately, since I do a fair bit of recording, and I've been told when playing live that I don't hit as hard as many drummers (of those who play a similar style). I think the more obvious point would be that when playing softly, you limit your possible dynamic range, and with lots of compression, all the ghost notes will be pushed up and will have much less distinction from a normal snare hit. On the contrary, I'd say hitting harder gives a better tone (or, let's stay, a better representation of the true character of the drum). With cymbals, it really depends on the type of cymbal and how it's made - how easily it opens up - some heavier cymbals require a mighty smack to get them to truly ring.
Exactly what @daniel.lopresti said. While i dont really have a lot of experience with recording, i can say that as far as live playing goes, you generally dont need to hit that hard. Though it depends on what you play, if you are playing metal you maybe want to hit your cymbals hard because of the sound, and thats okay. You should go after sound you want rather then trying to be loud cause of energy etc.. If you play little quieter the tech will turn you up, but if you play too quiet you wont be able to do proper ghost notes as daniel stated above. For most cases its best to go middle of the road, hit em hard when needed, but not so hard you cant go harder for accents. Regarding cymbals I personally always play them softer than drums, because really loud cymbals are not good for the mix and can easily get in the way. And also, 50% of how you sound is in the hands of the tech, so dont sweat it too much, the first time you go play with microphones you will see.
Can you guys not use clickbait titles like this? Your catalogue of videos is for me an archive of ways to use ths sounds my drum can make and not saying the object of the video in either the title or the thumbnail makes it very hard to navigate
All of our episodes are meticulously tagged to make it easier to find even without the use of the title or thumbnail as an aid. If you're looking for an additional clue as to what the video is about, please refer to the description. Cheers!
@@SoundsLikeADrumTo level with you guys, the people commenting this are making it clear that despite the tags, it isn't as easy to navigate your catalogue with this sort of title. If titles like this play better with the algorithm, then that's all well and good. You guys make great stuff and the more people that see it the better, but you could also just say that's why you're doing it instead of talking around it, people understand. Great vid by the way, I had to learn to love the snare buzz or drive myself mad so it's cool to get some more ideas on how to use it as an effect. It sounds great with the snare in front of the kick like you had it. Love what you guys are doing on the patreon, too!
Yeah…that whole “one size fits all” approach is so against the grain on what we believe and what we teach. But hey, maybe something will change on April 1st. 😉
The snare buzz during a tom fill on the final David Bowie record opened my eyes for the importance of sympathetic buzz.
That drum sound hits so hard
I really like the track Lazarus
My first kit was one of those ultra-cheap "Beginner" sets, and ALL it did was ring sympathetically. I learned to live with it, because I had no idea what to do about tuning drums, and gradually just took for granted that the toms (especially the rack tom) were going to make the snare wires vibrate like mad. When I finally got my real kit, I was so overjoyed that I didn't have to deal with sympathetic crosstalk! But if you guys say so...
As always, thanks Ben and Cody for another fascinating, fun (the look of sheer joy on Cody's face as he was hitting that floor tom!), and informative video. You guys rock!
"Drumsetistic" - Love it!
Finally incurable sympathetic buzz has it's acceptance.. I love it. It is what makes a drum set sound fantastic.
I love this. It's a hard to swallow the fact that it's very difficult to eliminate all snare buzz, but when I tune I try to make sure the buzz is consistent around the drumset.
It's annoying when 1 rack tom buzzes the snare, but the floor tom doesn't at all. I'd rather have a soft buzz from all toms when I play.
I notice this a lot in those beautiful big open drum recordings on albums by Japanese math rock band Toe.
Awesome band
the best
I really enjoyed the effects, thanks guys. Also, I totally agreed with getting out of ruts, even just using different parts of the kit for a fill or a little embellishment can challenge your muscle memory, so you have to think and not rely on auto-pilot. I do this regularly, and quite often find new sounds. Thanks Ben and Cody!
Wonderful! It brought me back to being a kid drummer again. “What would happen if I ..?”. We had only the one kit, and we heard all these New Wave sounds on the radio and tried all kinds of crazy ideas. But that got lost along the way, and I turned into the drummer you mentioned - stuck in a rut. This series has sparked that inquisitiveness again. Here’s to ya!
I have a late 70's version of that snare. yours sounds exactly the same as mine. really nice.
Fantastic
Absolutely LOVE this
Apart from snare buzz, I've been using sympathetic resonance to my "advantage" by supporting the kick low end through floor tom resonance
Loved it ❤
Great sounds! Well done!!!
Sooo good!
Your videos over the years are an incredibly useful resource, and very much appreciated. I often refer back to them.
I do prefer meaningful titles - if you must resort to clickbait, please at least include some clue what the video is about.
Thanks so much! All of our episodes are meticulously tagged to make it easier to find even without the use of the title or thumbnail as an aid. If you're looking for an additional clue as to what the video is about, please refer to the description. Cheers!
That was pretty cool
Can you do a video on hitting really hard vs soft. When playing live do i have to hit really hard to bring more energy or will the mics do all the work and am i wasting energy. Does hitting softly give better tone. Also include cymbals
I've been thinking about this lately, since I do a fair bit of recording, and I've been told when playing live that I don't hit as hard as many drummers (of those who play a similar style).
I think the more obvious point would be that when playing softly, you limit your possible dynamic range, and with lots of compression, all the ghost notes will be pushed up and will have much less distinction from a normal snare hit.
On the contrary, I'd say hitting harder gives a better tone (or, let's stay, a better representation of the true character of the drum).
With cymbals, it really depends on the type of cymbal and how it's made - how easily it opens up - some heavier cymbals require a mighty smack to get them to truly ring.
Exactly what @daniel.lopresti said. While i dont really have a lot of experience with recording, i can say that as far as live playing goes, you generally dont need to hit that hard. Though it depends on what you play, if you are playing metal you maybe want to hit your cymbals hard because of the sound, and thats okay. You should go after sound you want rather then trying to be loud cause of energy etc.. If you play little quieter the tech will turn you up, but if you play too quiet you wont be able to do proper ghost notes as daniel stated above. For most cases its best to go middle of the road, hit em hard when needed, but not so hard you cant go harder for accents.
Regarding cymbals I personally always play them softer than drums, because really loud cymbals are not good for the mix and can easily get in the way.
And also, 50% of how you sound is in the hands of the tech, so dont sweat it too much, the first time you go play with microphones you will see.
That crunchy kick drum is delicious 😋
I hate sympathetic snare buzz, but i guess there are creative uses of it.
the sympathetic resonance missing from electric drums or drum samples is what helps them sound so fake.
Can you guys not use clickbait titles like this? Your catalogue of videos is for me an archive of ways to use ths sounds my drum can make and not saying the object of the video in either the title or the thumbnail makes it very hard to navigate
All of our episodes are meticulously tagged to make it easier to find even without the use of the title or thumbnail as an aid. If you're looking for an additional clue as to what the video is about, please refer to the description. Cheers!
@@SoundsLikeADrumTo level with you guys, the people commenting this are making it clear that despite the tags, it isn't as easy to navigate your catalogue with this sort of title. If titles like this play better with the algorithm, then that's all well and good. You guys make great stuff and the more people that see it the better, but you could also just say that's why you're doing it instead of talking around it, people understand.
Great vid by the way, I had to learn to love the snare buzz or drive myself mad so it's cool to get some more ideas on how to use it as an effect. It sounds great with the snare in front of the kick like you had it. Love what you guys are doing on the patreon, too!
I've never seen SLaD not argue over a counterpoint.
Came here to watch you guys embrace tabletop-tight snare resos. Was disappointed 😐
🤣
Yeah…that whole “one size fits all” approach is so against the grain on what we believe and what we teach. But hey, maybe something will change on April 1st. 😉