Can I just say that the relationship between this father and son is so cute!!!!! As a mother with a young daughter I wish I can have deep and meaningful conversations with my daughter when she gets older.
Such an important point Rick made about how often in a betrayal or a loss things that you thought were reliable, aren't. It can really change one's feeling of safety and how you perceive the world.
This is so helpful. I am going through a really nasty divorce with a child involved, and it helps having all these concepts of self care and not feeding the dragons of self doubt and finding out what is really true and doable and what I just need to find a way to tolerate. There are so many aspects to divorce that I hadn't realized could be massive stressors and meditation, yoga, and belly breathing, as well as getting out into nature are all saving my sanity, as well as staying in touch with friends. I am a more intuitive thinker, so I sometimes get a bit overwhelmed by all the intellectual processing of information in these conversations, but this one was really clear and easy to follow and very helpful!!
Very comforting that there can be this honest adult conversation about the events in life that do go wrong, don't follow a carefully crafted life script, and can't be easily fixed or fixed at all.
Recently found out someone I know of ended their life due to their battle with ocd, I’ve really been really struggling with ocd & panic recently myself around uncertainty & also got taken advantage of by someone I trusted so rough week it has been, needed this
You can do a lot more with a hard truth than with an easy lie! Once I realized this, I became more resilient and able to love life as- is. Love does not fix a lot of things, people come and go, lie and die. The hard truths are invitations to go deeper and to let go of what you cannot keep which is everything and everyone.
This is an exceptional discussion. You describe the experience of dealing with very difficult times with such clarity and insight. So helpful and encouraging. Reminds me of the quote, "The most important thing, is to remember the most important thing."😌
your content is extraordinarily helpful in today's times . thank you so much for so generously sharing your much hard earned competencies and skills from a life time of working experience (your father's) for people who cannot afford therapy. ❤ I appreciate you both from heart.
thank you so much for this video its extremely helpful ❤ im going through a hard time right now and you explain everything so carefully it made me feel much better
Thank you SO Much for covering this. It has been timely for me and so valuable. Notes scribbled down to bear in mind and heart. Thank you, again, Forest and Rick.
Superb clarity in explaining the very complex mental processes we endure when faced with a crisis or loss. Thamk you both for generouslly sharing your wonderful professional knowledge and advice!
i loved when rick gave pluto its props! hades has so much to do with symbolic transformation, even the debate and classification is a form of fluctuation and transformation. how relevant to the topic. happy to listen more. yay pluto
I truly appreciate this video. I have been dealing with my coworker’s shame as they lured me into their live and involved me into their own problem for a year now. I felt like I caused her pain by not being her primary support because I had to deal with my own inner battle. When I tell them that I cannot see them, they start freaking out and telling me that I am not a friend if I can’t hang out with them. I was such in a dark place and almost ended it all, but I was glad that I had a split second to look down and saw my dog look up to me, I broke down in fetal position and just cuddled with my dog. After then, I had the epiphany that this feeling of slimy goo in my bloodstream had been disintegrated and vanished once I realized that it was her burden that was carrying and my relationship with myself and everyone else was far more important for me to focus on than the shame that she placed on me. I have not seen them in two weeks, and I feel more energized and focus on my inner work. I believe people need to be apart of your life to show you that even if you fail, you have a second to choose: to live your life as a human being. We are quite complex and far more sophisticated than the “my way, or the highway “, “black and white” mentality. And i believe going with the flow and learn from everything can make you thrive and see that this world is full of life and colors.
Thank you so much for this incredibly relevant, much needed advice. This format was extremely helpful. Please continue to touch on this subject as we go through these difficult & uncertain times.
This has been so incredibly helpful & much needed. Everything just resonated so deeply & you both were so thoughtful & sensitive in your disclaimers & considering all factors. Love the dynamic between you both as well ❤
Thank you guys for talking about this! It feels pertinent to me on several different levels. At the front of my mind is an event from the other day, a kind of non event that’s nevertheless been troubling me a lot: I learned that one of my parents did something really bad and harmful to the other. It happened many years ago, but learning about it has shocked and distressed me and I’m not really able to discuss it with them. I’m not sure how to relate to them or think about them with this information, and I’m having a hard time metabolizing it. I suppose I need to try and get more grounded in the present moment, as you suggest, and notice everything that’s ok right now even though someone I care about is significantly more flawed than I thought, and the people close to me have all suffered so much more than I realized…. Thanks for continuing to put out these episodes 🙏❤️
I'm leaving this here, as it may help someone - the breathing technique didn't work for me for decades, without knowing why, as inhaling meant "inhaling toxicity from exterior". It was a protective meachanism that flew me into a survival state when ppl pushed for it. Nobody ever asked why I cannot do it or what it meant for me. I didn't realize why & how and mocked the technique for years. I think it's indicative of "freeze" response, you know: no talking back, no whispering, no breathing even. :) Hope this helps smb. PS. In certain cases, questioning one's "limitations" is very close to gaslighting and it can set them for illusions that will break very easily, leading to a double "trauma"/ trouble: first, the gaslight, then, trusting the gaslighter >> falling from up tall.
What is making my untreated panic disorder 1000X worse is this “Permanently shitty” state (that is getting Worse every day) of Complex Grief. I am almost four months after the event and I can’t catch my breath, my heart is in deep, physical, unrelenting pain. This overwhelming grief is making my other disabilities much worse. I have talked to five psychologists, done breath work (for decades) and the grief is worse and more painful on every level, every day. Permanently shitty REALLY SUCKS big time.
@breadgarlichouse Thank you. That’s a great suggestion. I need to deal with customer service people at times, and I can usually make them laugh. At the very least, I’m always verbally very appreciative of their time and help. I’m basically housebound due to myriad disabilities and the untreated panic disorder. Also, I am a single lady rescued by two super sweet cats . They give and receive a lot of love. They are my entire social circle. Over the decades I’ve been burned way too often by humans. Over this same period of time, animals have never done this.
A helpful breakdown, and full of beneficial reminders even for those not currently in that situation. The final part about the necessity for it in those difficult, chaotic moments brought up something I've been thinking about, namely antidotes: Contentment as the antidote to envy or comparison, self-compassion against shame or self-judgement, outward compassion countering judgement of others etc. I find it quite helpful to have that sort of toolbox where everything is neatly arranged and easily found. Thanks for what you do, these episodes are always a good way to switch gears when the week hasn't started quite the way you wanted or needed.
Thank you for all, your podcasts are so valuable Forrest, how u both get along, oh gosh, what a dream... and REALLY talking, i'll never have that in this life, and u both even like same color :) (from Belgium)
Hey guys, love your work! I would enjoy a new episode on the basics. Have been listening back the first episodes and they are so juicy, with a lot of the foundation to what you really about in every episode. Perhaps it's time to have a "back to basics" episode 😊
Going to listen to this again. Sometimes these podcasts seem so alien. Maybe it's the male point of view on life IDK. In any case, how much if this advice is generational? We're not all on Instagram or Facebook & are quite isolated. No one to get a reality check from. We shoulder this life alone & the expectations here are too high.
Hi ,im going through fall of life badly, which is affecting my health badly.😢😢😢.I'm a single female and fighter forever.i have seen a rise and fall of life from a very young age.but this time, I'm 💔 broken into pieces. My business, life,family everything is falling apart ????😢😢😢😢feel like a failed leader.
Honestly, I hate "the mustard seed" story which I've heard over and over through the years. For one thing, a male, aka Buddha, or let's just say the normal human male who thought up and wrote the story, can't understand the depth of female suffering, especially after the loss of a child. Why not just say "well, other kids have died so why are you crying, get back to work." It's a cruel stupid story.
Can I just say that the relationship between this father and son is so cute!!!!! As a mother with a young daughter I wish I can have deep and meaningful conversations with my daughter when she gets older.
Such an important point Rick made about how often in a betrayal or a loss things that you thought were reliable, aren't. It can really change one's feeling of safety and how you perceive the world.
This is so helpful. I am going through a really nasty divorce with a child involved, and it helps having all these concepts of self care and not feeding the dragons of self doubt and finding out what is really true and doable and what I just need to find a way to tolerate. There are so many aspects to divorce that I hadn't realized could be massive stressors and meditation, yoga, and belly breathing, as well as getting out into nature are all saving my sanity, as well as staying in touch with friends. I am a more intuitive thinker, so I sometimes get a bit overwhelmed by all the intellectual processing of information in these conversations, but this one was really clear and easy to follow and very helpful!!
Very comforting that there can be this honest adult conversation about the events in life that do go wrong, don't follow a carefully crafted life script, and can't be easily fixed or fixed at all.
Well said! ❤
I hope you guys do more episodes like this one. Sometimes, people are stuck and have to find a way to move past the pain. Really enjoyed this episode
Me too!!
Recently found out someone I know of ended their life due to their battle with ocd, I’ve really been really struggling with ocd & panic recently myself around uncertainty & also got taken advantage of by someone I trusted so rough week it has been, needed this
Im sorry
Sending you love. May you be happy, may you be healthy. May you have comfort and peace 🙏
Sorry to hear that 😢😮. Sending 🤗 hugs
You can do a lot more with a hard truth than with an easy lie! Once I realized this, I became more resilient and able to love life as- is. Love does not fix a lot of things, people come and go, lie and die. The hard truths are invitations to go deeper and to let go of what you cannot keep which is everything and everyone.
Exactly right 😮👍👍
This is an exceptional discussion. You describe the experience of dealing with very difficult times with such clarity and insight. So helpful and encouraging. Reminds me of the quote, "The most important thing, is to remember the most important thing."😌
your content is extraordinarily helpful in today's times . thank you so much for so generously sharing your much hard earned competencies and skills from a life time of working experience (your father's) for people who cannot afford therapy. ❤ I appreciate you both from heart.
Father and son again.😃 Soothes my inner child. Great topic and tips. Thank, you!🙏😻
It does do some mirculous soothing to our inner child!
@@michellemonet4358 Yes indeed!🙏😻
It's so nice to see a loving father son relationship 🙌👍
thank you so much for this video its extremely helpful ❤ im going through a hard time right now and you explain everything so carefully it made me feel much better
Thank you SO Much for covering this. It has been timely for me and so valuable. Notes scribbled down to bear in mind and heart. Thank you, again, Forest and Rick.
Thank you, very useful!
Im here for the step by step
Thank you so much 🤍
Superb clarity in explaining the very complex mental processes we endure when faced with a crisis or loss. Thamk you both for generouslly sharing your wonderful professional knowledge and advice!
i loved when rick gave pluto its props! hades has so much to do with symbolic transformation, even the debate and classification is a form of fluctuation and transformation. how relevant to the topic. happy to listen more. yay pluto
I truly appreciate this video. I have been dealing with my coworker’s shame as they lured me into their live and involved me into their own problem for a year now. I felt like I caused her pain by not being her primary support because I had to deal with my own inner battle. When I tell them that I cannot see them, they start freaking out and telling me that I am not a friend if I can’t hang out with them. I was such in a dark place and almost ended it all, but I was glad that I had a split second to look down and saw my dog look up to me, I broke down in fetal position and just cuddled with my dog. After then, I had the epiphany that this feeling of slimy goo in my bloodstream had been disintegrated and vanished once I realized that it was her burden that was carrying and my relationship with myself and everyone else was far more important for me to focus on than the shame that she placed on me. I have not seen them in two weeks, and I feel more energized and focus on my inner work. I believe people need to be apart of your life to show you that even if you fail, you have a second to choose: to live your life as a human being. We are quite complex and far more sophisticated than the “my way, or the highway “, “black and white” mentality. And i believe going with the flow and learn from everything can make you thrive and see that this world is full of life and colors.
Very well said❤
Take care of yourself, first and foremost
Thank you so much for this incredibly relevant, much needed advice. This format was extremely helpful. Please continue to touch on this subject as we go through these difficult & uncertain times.
Thank you so, so much!!
Such a helpful episode. Thank you 🌸🙏🌸
Love listening to both of you! It is always heartfelt! Thank you!! 🌺🙏💖
This has been so incredibly helpful & much needed. Everything just resonated so deeply & you both were so thoughtful & sensitive in your disclaimers & considering all factors. Love the dynamic between you both as well ❤
Very valuable guidance. We live in tough times and I am so thankful for this educated wisdom from Forest and Dr Hanson
Amazing. I had to stop a few times throughout it, go back, re-listen. Well done!
Thanks
Thank you guys for talking about this! It feels pertinent to me on several different levels. At the front of my mind is an event from the other day, a kind of non event that’s nevertheless been troubling me a lot: I learned that one of my parents did something really bad and harmful to the other. It happened many years ago, but learning about it has shocked and distressed me and I’m not really able to discuss it with them. I’m not sure how to relate to them or think about them with this information, and I’m having a hard time metabolizing it. I suppose I need to try and get more grounded in the present moment, as you suggest, and notice everything that’s ok right now even though someone I care about is significantly more flawed than I thought, and the people close to me have all suffered so much more than I realized…. Thanks for continuing to put out these episodes 🙏❤️
I'm leaving this here, as it may help someone - the breathing technique didn't work for me for decades, without knowing why, as inhaling meant "inhaling toxicity from exterior". It was a protective meachanism that flew me into a survival state when ppl pushed for it. Nobody ever asked why I cannot do it or what it meant for me. I didn't realize why & how and mocked the technique for years. I think it's indicative of "freeze" response, you know: no talking back, no whispering, no breathing even. :) Hope this helps smb. PS. In certain cases, questioning one's "limitations" is very close to gaslighting and it can set them for illusions that will break very easily, leading to a double "trauma"/ trouble: first, the gaslight, then, trusting the gaslighter >> falling from up tall.
What is making my untreated panic disorder 1000X worse is this “Permanently shitty” state (that is getting Worse every day) of Complex Grief. I am almost four months after the event and I can’t catch my breath, my heart is in deep, physical, unrelenting pain. This overwhelming grief is making my other disabilities much worse. I have talked to five psychologists, done breath work (for decades) and the grief is worse and more painful on every level, every day. Permanently shitty REALLY SUCKS big time.
Try to show yourself, show your light, shine again.
@breadgarlichouse Thank you. That’s a great suggestion. I need to deal with customer service people at times, and I can usually make them laugh. At the very least, I’m always verbally very appreciative of their time and help. I’m basically housebound due to myriad disabilities and the untreated panic disorder. Also, I am a single lady rescued by two super sweet cats . They give and receive a lot of love. They are my entire social circle. Over the decades I’ve been burned way too often by humans. Over this same period of time, animals have never done this.
I absolutely enjoy watching you both! Loving your interactions... Your "realness"/...and sometimes LMAO AT YOUR DAD , FOREST!
A helpful breakdown, and full of beneficial reminders even for those not currently in that situation. The final part about the necessity for it in those difficult, chaotic moments brought up something I've been thinking about, namely antidotes: Contentment as the antidote to envy or comparison, self-compassion against shame or self-judgement, outward compassion countering judgement of others etc. I find it quite helpful to have that sort of toolbox where everything is neatly arranged and easily found.
Thanks for what you do, these episodes are always a good way to switch gears when the week hasn't started quite the way you wanted or needed.
EVERYTHING YOU SAID!
Thank you for all, your podcasts are so valuable Forrest, how u both get along, oh gosh, what a dream... and REALLY talking, i'll never have that in this life, and u both even like same color :) (from Belgium)
Hey guys, love your work! I would enjoy a new episode on the basics. Have been listening back the first episodes and they are so juicy, with a lot of the foundation to what you really about in every episode. Perhaps it's time to have a "back to basics" episode 😊
Thank you thank you thank you
"The Pluto lobby . . . " haha
Going to listen to this again. Sometimes these podcasts seem so alien. Maybe it's the male point of view on life IDK. In any case, how much if this advice is generational? We're not all on Instagram or Facebook & are quite isolated. No one to get a reality check from. We shoulder this life alone & the expectations here are too high.
Haha, yeah. Now what? Is on loop for me lately
❤❤
Ok, you guys are lotr fans as well?? I want to be both of you so bad
Hi ,im going through fall of life badly, which is affecting my health badly.😢😢😢.I'm a single female and fighter forever.i have seen a rise and fall of life from a very young age.but this time, I'm 💔 broken into pieces. My business, life,family everything is falling apart ????😢😢😢😢feel like a failed leader.
1:00:49 mark - I think I speak for everyone when I say ppl demand to see the cat plz
you guys are chicken noodle soup for adults definitely
Yessss
Honestly, I hate "the mustard seed" story which I've heard over and over through the years. For one thing, a male, aka Buddha, or let's just say the normal human male who thought up and wrote the story, can't understand the depth of female suffering, especially after the loss of a child. Why not just say "well, other kids have died so why are you crying, get back to work." It's a cruel stupid story.
This is not very helpful. It doesn't consider race or income levels. Assuming people have money and options. This is so typical