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What do you look for when shopping for a high end guitar?
i dont shop for high end guitars
Somethimg versatile
Neck radius, ease of playing, pickup sound with amps that i use.
Money in my bank account.
I can't find it...
Ease of play
“Let’s design a high end guitar that looks so bad no one will want to steal it at the end of a gig”
It really just looks like a shit knockoff lmao
I like the look of it
It is pretty bland for a 3000 dollar axe
@@bjornreeve2091 did you ever look at lavadrop guitars? They make 1500 dollar guitars and price them at 9000
It looks like a epiphone les Paul special 2 knock off witha tele switch n’ knobs 😂
That framus looks like epiphone les paul special lol
Sila but the price is like a brand new gibson
burgerlice I know
with a tele switch
I had the same notion.
I Wear A Fez Now still wouldn't buy it
tyler... seriously.... this is EXACTLY THE VIDEO I NEEDED you to make right now. THANK YOU SO MUCH
I completely and totally agree with u. All the other youtube guitar buying guides are balony
I buy my guitars based off of their weight. I need to be able to smash them into my Mesa after a face melting solo without throwing my back out.
Not A-Aron lmfao
Not A-Aron 😂😂😂 well thought out man
What makes this guitar worth 3000$? Those woods better be from an endangered species of trees.
Justin Rosewood is an endangered wood species.
Would you be happy if it was made from pandas?
It's dyed with blood of sea elks
Nut is carved from siberian tiger tooth.
That guitar is made of mahogany! And not just any mahogany, but mahogany from the planet of Malchior 7 where the trees are 300 feet tall and breathe FIRE!! From these trees this guitar was forged using ancient blood rituals of the Malchior people. Not only does this make this beauty nigh indestructible but it can bend the fabric of the UNIVERSE ITSELF!
It's mahogany.
Mahogany.....
Crazy good guitarist that plays a cheap guitar here on RUclips is The Doooo. Dude can play anything on request, its insane!
Dillon we know dood. He has 1M subs. More than this man
yup
Why you trying to promote a RUclipsr that has over 1M subs aha
Hmm, maybe the point of my comment wasn't to promote the Dooo, but to use him as an example to Tyler's point of it's the guitarist, not the guitar.
Please actually read comments, and think about it, before you respond.
Question is though: What does the rest of his setup look like? A better amp could make a world of difference. I do agree though, that it is more the guitarist than the guitar. :)
"I clear my mind of all brands ..."
Eh, you can't. Unless you shop blindfolded, your subconscious mind will still know about the brands.
I get that this guitar is built extremely well but how can they justify 3k for it? It looks like a les paul special. For that much I'd expect nice inlays, neck thru, and a fancy top with a nice finish just to name a few.
RealGamerManz Should have a better paint job too and a nicer cutaway. Not a fan of how the pickups look either
Here’s an analogy. A $500 guitar vs a $5000 guitar. A $500 guitar is likely going to be mass produced, with less attention to detail. The $5000 one, on the other hand, is most likely going to have every inch of the guitar crafted meticulously to great detail and the finish is going to be done much better.
But does it sound 10 times better than the $500 one? Nope.
But will you want to play it forever? Maybe. A guitar that can keep your attention to keep playing is the best guitar.
They want 2,699 USD for this?! Seriously?!
It's a bolt-on,with a fixed bridge,no fancy flame/quilt/burl-maple top,no fancy finish,just a boring matte black paintjob and no special electronics,like a sustainiac,booster or Piezo etc. just a Tele-style control layout with 2 humbuckers.
How,in the name of Zeus' thunder farting arse,does this cost almost 3 grand in USD?!
You can get an EBMM Petrucci,which has a Piezo and a shitload of other cool features for that money or custom build a Kiesel,with some super fancy top,stainless steel frets or get an Aristides,Mayones or Strandberg.
greekfreak1980 yea what a joke
You have won youtube comments haha
Don't get me wrong,Framus has done some amazing guitars for Devin Townsend or that ergonomical Flying V for Wolf Hoffman of Accept,but this here is ridiculous.The only guitar that's more overpriced,it's the Charvel USA Jake E.Lee signature.The original was a Strat,that the San Dimas custom shop modded for Jake and now they sell the replica of said guitar for over 3 grand USD!
Hey Zeus, hey Zeus!
greekfreak1980 *cough John Mayer Signature *cough
A handmade, german, amazing sounding Epiphone les paul special.
Ugly as sin. But sounds nice! That is some cheap looking rosewood. Looks faaarr from a $3000 guitar.
Woesty420 agree
Woesty420 tonewood
I agree
Woesty420 Honestly it looks like a cheap $100 Epiphone. I would never spend 3 grand on that guitar. Ripoff.
rosewood looked nice overall
I went to my local guitar shop and they had a 1966 framus hollowbody. it was pretty cool
The sustain and acoustic sound of this guitar seems unreal, a real player's tool. This is very surprising, because the neck joint is some kind of (improved, admittedly) bolt-on.
I love what you said about clearing your head of all the brands and stuff. For one of my birthdays my dad took me to buy a guitar but he made me close my eyes and he handed me several different ones to choose based on the feel alone
Growls with clarity. The frets look glassy and slick. fretboard is gorgeous . Sounds very resonant and woody . If it stays in tune , and you like its balance and feel buy it . A bolt on by the way is not a negative people . Some of the longest, and most gloriously sustained notes you’ve ever heard were done on Strats and Teles . There is no semi -hardened goo, glue in between the neck and body on a bolt on to inhibit vibration transfer
While bolt on isn't a bad thing, this doesn't look like a good bolt on, it looks like an epi LP special joint, $200 ibanezes have better neck joints, it's an extremely pathetically constructed guitar for $3000
Free dressing isn't worth $3000, and that fretboard looks like a scrapbin piece of rosewood, most luthiers would reduce the price on a build with that fretboard, not charge $3000
thanks for wearing that shirt which reminded me of my first ever metallica show tonight here in stuttgart fucking germany. the weather's a blast too, i cant fucking wait
no offense but that guitar looks a cheap Ltd ec-50 or something
Even worse. Looks like a $150 EC-10.
Before you shell out over two grand on a guitar take the current guitar you enjoy the most and take it with you to the shop. Test it out with the expensive guitar to make sure they're tuned the same and make sure you're getting more than just a name.
This Friday I’m ordering my first “high end” guitar, a shecter apocalypse c1 fr-s and I can’t wait
So - true - checking the intonation is a step I used to miss for many years - I only starting figuring that out over the past few years. I typically start with doing a little upfront research when buying any guitar. Look for any RUclips vids in the genre I play in (rock/blues), see some reviews, and if there are any comparison vids that really show a traditional/low-end model v the higher end models. So much information out there. Then, I’ll look for a local shop that carries the gear. Good news is in my are between GC and independent music stores, I can find just about every flavor of guitar our there. Then I’ll find an amp like mine in the store - hook up, and start the test drive. I really focus on tone first. Playability comes second - only in the fact that I can setup my guitar pretty well - and if need be, I’ll throw $40 in to get it setup correctly. It’s a little dangerous as sometimes setup can affect tone - however, I’ve found many shops just don’t do setup - even with the higher end guitars. If it passes those tests, I take it home (and make sure the store I’m buying from has a good return policy). Then I’ll run it through many different things including several different type amps, DI into my DAW, etc. I have fun testing out new gear.
Great presentation. The guitar sounds amazing. I want one.
I’m working on just building the perfect Strat for me. I’ve been modifying it one mod at a time, eventually going to have a Strat absolutely perfect where no other guitar can compete. 🎸
So far I’ve replaced the pickups from those super hot Duncan Designed pickups that came in it to boutique pickups that sound incredible. I originally wanted a Clapton mid boost (so I bought Zexcoils), but the set had a Tele-esque bridge, so I decided I would instead get a blender pot. After that, I’ll probably replace the master tone with a two way tone (cut bass or treble instead of just treble). That’ll be a great instrument (not that the replaced pickups aren’t that already).
I love how single coils never get muddy.
I'm super lucky to have a really cool dealer where I live. They're good about returns / exchanges even on used gear. I took home a Gibson R8 but couldn't get on board with the neck. Ended up going with a PRS custom 24 Floyd which is still my number 1 guitar today.
Nice timing on this, man!
This is exactly what I wanted to know. I’ve been playing a bit over three months though I’ve been a musician all my life on sax, so I know the value of actually trying out the instrument I’m going to buy, but on sax the differences between cheap and expensive are so glaring that I really could buy a pricey sax to replace a cheap one without trying it out and know it’s obviously better. But guitar, so many subtleties; if it weren’t, I would just change the pickups, bridge, and tuning keys.
You really covered the necessary basics.
Man, you always get what you pay for. I always try getting mahogany/alder neck-thru stuff for the studio. You gotta spend a bit of money sometimes for the best sound possible. The road is another story. There's no shame in getting Asian-made bolt-on guitars with Floyd Rose Specials. If they get the job done, they get the job done. 👍
demazphantom gee sure sounds like your talking about an rg
demazphantom I have to disagree. You definitely do NOT always get what you pay for. There are cheap guitars that are better than guitars that cost thousands. Price doesn't determine quality.
If you always "get what you pay for", then what is the point of shopping at all? That is such a well worn phrase that sounds like it should be true but almost never is. A lot of what people buy when they spend their money has absolutely nothing to do with the physical qualities of the object being purchased. People buy an image, a reputation, the agreement of their peers, a "vibe", a style, a perception of reality. Then they justify their purchase with illogical thinking like reality by consensus or confirmation bias.
the neck wood doesn't affect the tone so that's wasted money
I guess you don't have many guitars ,Daniel. There is a reason my 2000 dollar guitar is the one that feels best to play on and sounds the best. vs the ones that are around 1000 dollar and lower.
Maybe you ment 300$ guitar...
Lol it looks cheap af
I agree man, my 300$ Yamaha RGX 121Z looks like a custom shop instrument compared to this. And it has better headstock design, really stays in tune forever, great fast playing comfortable neck, HSH configurations, might swap the pickups, but It sounds great, I'm a happy man. I honestly think expensive gear including expensive guitars, effects pedals and expensive pickups, is just not worth the money. In the other hand, expensive amp might be an investment to go for.
Sadžid Smajkić well, I’d say expensive stuff is worth it to a certain extent. If a $300 pedal is only marginally better than a $150 pedal of the same type, then the $150 is more worth it, but if there is a massive difference between the two in terms of quality and sound, maybe the $300 one is the better investment, as it’ll probably last longer and give you a wider range of sounds. Overpaying for something that isn’t that much better than the next best thing isn’t worth it, but if you’re serious about music and you know that you’d be getting something good out of it, something that’ll last for a long time, then it’s worth investing the money (as long as it’s not ridiculously expensive).
I really like your method to test the intonation bro
I really like headless guitars like Kiesel Vader and Strandberg Boden as they are light, comfortable and easy to play sitting or standing and fit in small spaces on trains and airplanes yet look and sound amazing. My other favorites are Suhr and Vigier guitars and Les Paul Studio guitars look and sound great as well.
Just bought a Dean USA StradiVMNT Dave Mustaine Serial 50/50 Signature. Its beautiful and its well worth the price
Can you review a chapman ml1 pro? I played one recently for the first time, my main ax is PRS CE and I was very impressed by Chapman, want to know your opinion on it. Great vid btw
Arman Amirkhanyan I have a Chapman Ghost Fret standard in black blood and it looks and sound awesome. Chapman makes good guitars, and you’ll get nicer sounding guitars for your money than most other brands. I would go try one out though, see if you like it, it’s really all preference. They might have some at a guitar center in your area.
Arman Amirkhanyan I have a 2016 Chapman Norseman (a discontinued model that's gonna be return for the new line), and it's my favorite guitar I have ever owned. It's exactly what I look for in a guitar (a superstrat with a floyd and a coil split that vibes like a full thickness Les Paul) and it almost feels like if I made a custom/signature model. It's just PERFECT!
an LP shape with tele like electronics... I'm sold :)
Thanks for the advice duuuude. I’m going for a Heritage H-150, which is a Les Paul style model made in the same factory that made 59’ Les Pauls and many more before Gibson’s move to TN in the 80s. I’ve been playing it at my local music shop for almost a year now, going out to Guitar Center and Sam Ash, other spots, playing Les Pauls, playing PRS Mark Tremontis, other things in that same single-cutaway style, and I always go back to A, The Heritage H-150, after A-B’ing many models. I been lusting over it like Wayne Campbell, ‘she will be mine, oh yes, she will be mine’.
Very nice advice, and I did pay attention to many of the details that were never important to me when I first started playing guitar, but are now like ‘car backup cameras’, in that certain features are must haves for me, or that’s instant disqualification for a guitar to be. For me, must haves include rolled frets, where the binding and fret rolling are seamlessly done. Translucent (color, or natural) finish on the back of the guitar, so I can appreciate the wood grain for aesthetics, same scale 24.75 as Les Paul, no weight relief, just lighter wood choice, regular (not speed) knobs. Some practical, or playability requirements, some aesthetic. My tastes have evolved to what they are now, and I’m sure they’ll continue to evolve, but no tastes are wrong. If you lust over a Slash Signature Model Epiphone Les Paul, that’s great, it’s a beautiful guitar, plays great I’m sure, nothing wrong with that at all. In my view, it’s like choosing your bride 👰. You better be damn sure, same goes for a guitar.
Finally made the layaway drop on it, now she WILL be mine in less than 90 days. Les Paul style, many of the same luthiers as Gibson’s golden era, Antique Sunburst finish. Already got a name for her, I’m gonna call her ‘Charlotte’ 😈🤘
I played someone's PRS Mira yesterday, and then compared it to my epiphone les paul. I've had the L.P. set up by a luthier and nice exliers on it, and I can honestly say that I enjoyed the Epiy L.P. more. The sound was similar through a clean amp too.
Hey I've really liked your "habits" of guitar videos. I know he's not talked about much but I'd love to see a habits of Buck Dharma of Blue Oyster Cult. His licks are some of my favorites.
Yo, Tyler, good shit bro! I dig your videos and especially your playing.
Would you share with us mortals your signal chain in this video, especially in the beginning riff? I am curious if you are using an Overdrive pedal together with your amp gain to get that sweet fat American sound.
That sustain at 7:23 on that not is marvelous!!!!
I really like this advice. I bought a PRS SE 24 last year but I felt like I got way in over my head with the pruchase. I should have taken it a little slower, however it has not let me down yet. well worth the money.
This video is awesome, man. I just saw one from ZIMM that had comments that went straight against this. People strictly were talking about brands and resales and it was... sad.
Beautiful guitar bro!!!
2699 for a opaque painted, flat top and a overdone design? no thanks
looks like a $200 travel guitar. aside from the looks... it doesn't sound like half of its price either.
I don’t wanna be rude bc they lended that guitar to you but I would’ve never guessed it was worth $3000
holy hell tyler we wore the same shirt today
keep on rocking! \m/
08:50 THAT SUSTAIN! HOLY SHET!
That aside, nice video. Some really useful information for the newcomers out there. :)
That sounds amazing with some gain and reverb on
My dream guitar right now is the Devin Townsend Framus. Have them send you one
Most expensive guitar I have is a PRS SE Standard 24. And I'm still paying for it.
Charles Grey same lol i have a 2k guitar and i dont complain but damn ive been working extra hours to finally recover my money. Its worth it if its the right one. Like i say if your gonna get married you might as well pay for the wedding first then hold the wife(axe)
Well, at least it looks 10x the price of this framus
Specs are first. Pickups, neck through or not, quality of bridge, nut, tuners. Pretty much everything. On a cheap guitar mainly the neck and frets. On those you usually upgrade the electronics soon enough
Could you please do the same video but for bass? I'm not sure what exactly to look for in bass guitars but would like to be educated on this topic. Thanks!
Great video. I think if you are a guitar player you should try out high end instruments wether you can afford them or not. You will discover a world you didn't know existed. You will also discover a new reference point of what is possible. This reference point will come in handy when you seek out something in your budget to help you get as close to that within your means. Surprisingly you can do quite well for a fraction of the price if you know what to look for. It's like buying a sailboat, those extra "feet" will cost you a bundle......
I got that same shirt from target. Good quality for a good price.
Framus promo butchered in the comments section 😂
Alexander 😂🤣 FOR SURE it was botched to all hell!
They used to make extremely awesome Stratocaster copies called strato de luxe it’s amazing
Nice shirt. I have the same one! 😁
nice blues solo in the intro btw
The bit about checking all features made me laugh, because one of my old guitars, I owned it for about a year before I found out it had coil taps! haha
1. Feel
2. Quality
3. Features
4. Looks
I've got a 1972 framus 5/197, and can confirm, it's ace.
I mostly play metal so you would expect i would go for an LTD or Jackson or something but honestly i sat down one day in a guitar store with the intention to buy a new guitar and did exactly what you said "clear your mind of brands" and i walked away with a bright yellow music man axis. totally the opposite of something that i was used to or looking for aesthetically but it played so well.
Ive been looking into this Ibanez guitar i saw at my local Guitar center, but it is $600 so i kind of don't know what to do. I'll keep working on getting better before i try and get it. The guitar is the Ibanez RGAT62. The blue one. They gray one is nice but I'd like the blue one better lol. Im going to finish the video first too
Damn that guitar sounds good & looks awesome! U gotta find a way to keep that 1 man.
I think it mainly depends on what style of music you play or your specific style. If you are a shredder, then go with Jackson, Ibanez, or ESP. If you're a bluesy player go with Fender. If you're riff guy into rock then Gibson would be the guitar for you. Also, pickups and tremolo are important because they determine the feel and tone of the guitar.
I honesty just watched this one because you had the Metallica shirt on. Great advice though.
Yeti Slinger Dude music isnt about technicality at all. Its about feel and emotions. Who cares if someone fucks up sometimes when they enjoy what their doing and put emotions in their music. But I have to admit that Lars is really not that good of a drummer.
Yeti Slinger I think we both can agree to disagree.
The only one in this band who is super skilled is Robert Trujillo. If you dig deep in the proverbial cavern that is music, you can find wonderful things and sounds to bring to the table regardless of skill. I mean look at Joe strummer. That dude was a terrible singer and terrible guitarist yet he took the time to dig into music as a whole rather than pick at it with a plastic toy shovel like Metallica does. They are on par with nickleback when it comes to their depth as songwriters and musicians. Terrible shit. That shirt should say 'mediocre' not 'metallica'.
Yeti Slinger are you really telling me that your sons band has a better rythm guitar than james?
Matias Metsävainio what does James do as a rhythm player that's so special? What does he do vocally that is so impressive? "Oba jah do Aba do whadda teah yeahhhhhh!"? It's a joke. A sound only fitting for a trailer park.
rosewood fret board, "maple neck wood", tune-o-matic bridge, graph tech nut, and bolt-on neck for 3k
Hi 👋
Well for me I’m currently looking for a electric guitar I been playing acoustic guitar for many years.
Would you give some advice on my particular issue?
Thanks brother your videos are awesome 👏🏻
I always look for comfartabality if its not comfortable even though its the best sounding guitar in the world im not going to play it i will just go back to my strat or ibanez s series
That stank bend face is how you know 1) the axe is excellent and 2) Tyler is enjoying the heck out of his bend
Thanks mr. Music does this also apply to buying an expensive guitr capo?
I want to buy a Reverend Pete Anderson PA1 at some point. Played one at a store and couldn't get enough.
I've had expensive guitars, nothing crazy but a new Les Paul Standard and I feel like you can learn to work on a cheaper guitar and make them play just as well. Lol I seriously just bought a squire Bullet made in Indonesia 15 mins ago because it plays great. Someone set it up very well. $129 at GC. All the other ones did not have this setup. Just lucked out on this one
That guitar sounds amazing!
If you choose to revisit Framus, I’d love to see your thoughts on the new imported line. Namely the Phil x sig that’s like 800 bucks.
Video request how to do guitar set up like tweaking the intonation on the bridge the truss rod raising and lowering the action and getting your guitar in a good shape because the person I took it to didn't know what they were doing and my guitar is messed up now
Sends Framus back, BUYS A MAJESTY :D
FINALLY... NOT ANOTHER PRS GUITAR!!!
I have the same t-shirt, yay
Beautiful and quality guitar. :)
When I picked up my HD28 last year I sat at the guitar shop for 2 and a half hours in the acoustic room playing every Martin, Gibson, Taylor and what ever else I could play until I made the decision to get the Martin.
I met a guy playing a $400 Ibanez today who was amazing and I played a cheap Ibanez Axiom Iron Label $800 guitar that played like a dream.
I played on an epiphone les Paul for a while and then wanted an upgrade and I found a 2008 white American standard strat with hot Jeff beck pickups for $750 on reverb.com. It was worth the money
I have my eyes set on a Music Man Axis Super Sport, but have not played them. Should I buy it?
That's cheap looking guitar
Alexander looks like an Epiphone lol
Josue Samaniego definitely
Tbh i wouldn’t pay more than 500 dollars for this guitar
Yeah, looks really basic and cheap. 3k for a bolt on with a tele style control and stuff... No appointments. Looks like something designed to be made as cheaply as possible.
Might play and sound great. Why would you make it look like it's worth 150 quid?
Ernie ball majesty is a $3k guitar so is a capirison fan fret guitar
That thing sounds killer
That’s a beautiful guitar no doubt about it could you play metal on that guy i’m sure you probably could
Hey, so once u did all your guitar video, but over the years u got a few more, can u do another one video where u show guiars?
What would you recommend for trying guitars not common in stores?
I have no doubt that this Guy is blessed too much, too calm and not to much arrogant. Just calm
I shopped for an acoustic for 4 months I was dead set on an Ibanez I went to every store in town that sold instruments and played everyone in town when I finaly decided to stop limiting my search to just Ibanez I locked down a very beautiful Martin and I am so happy that I didn't settle
I got my Epiphone les Paul for 250 at Sam Ash and I love it.
I bought a Yamaha a couple of months ago the guy i talked to was awesome he has owned and and owns many guitars and said there is a day when everyone wants that one guitar that cost an arm an a leg but the old Yamahas and other brands sound just as good like you said good people dont have to have expensive instruments to play well. I like to say expensive excessive anything doesnt make you better you just look cool while doing it.
any idea what the body thickness was or the neck angle? or is is just low profile tunematic?
I need advices if in my city there is only one music store that only sells the lower stuff from Yamaha and Ibanez, if i want something better i have to order it with them, so i have no chance to test the guitar, also i live to at least 7 hours (the time can be more depending on the brand i'm searching for) from the closest high end guitar store (no airport in my city), so any advice?
I wonder where he got that habbit of extending his arm after hitting a note. He hits the last note and shoots his arm down or outward. I dont know if thats a feel thing or if he just likes doing it.
(11:56) “you don’t just go into a store and say that looks nice and walk out with it” despite him doing that with his acoustic not too long ago 😂
I really want a Gibson flying v 1967 reissue but it's worth 4 grand. I want not because it "makes me better" but simply on how cool It looks
The Doo still plays on a squire
You said 7 words, that made complete sense and ended this argument.
Andrew--
Thanks for telling me about the Doo.
Yeah, that’s a Squire Hello Kitty. ( I checked prices and what a $149 guitar should be going for is like $500, plus!on ebay). Maybe it’s the sarcastic joke for metal guitarists. ?
(Maybe he hotrodded it ).
I never knew he existed on RUclips. The reaction of joy and amazement on chicks faces is priceless to me.
That right there is a benefit of playing music.
You can look at it as the framus looking like an epiphone. Or maybe they're just making those epiphones so damn good. I'm just glad Tyler didn't use his PRS.
Not only that its ugly, it also looks super cheap.