Scorkl: BUSTED!
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2019
- Just a little pumping, and breathe underwater, carefree for 10 minutes!!! Err, not quite. More like 10 minutes of hard pumping for 10 minutes at snorkel depth. At merely 10 meters youre down to 5 minutes with an unsecured tank with almost no way of telling when will be your last breath! Hmm $600.... SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!
god I could be rich if only I didnt have those pesky morals about not scamming people!
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and maybe the fairest appraisal of spareairs worth:
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You’re all wrong man, my friend bought one of these around a year ago, pumped it for around ten minutes and then dived into the Atlantic for a supposedly ten minutes swimming but here we are a year later and my friend is still down there somewhere swimming around like a fish 🐠. I’m saving up for mine now
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@@VisionExplo invention .... ??? I guess you mean they invented a lie .... I really don't think anyone should proud of that invention.
Way to go supporting fraudsters Alvin Lim.
As a diver, I want to thank you for doing this video. It really messes up the reef when you have to keep pushing dead bodies out of the way.😉
I like you.
@PringlesKing William it'll also help expanding the reef :>
Let them queue up on Mt Everest.
😂
That's awesome haha
I worked in the offshore oil industry (Atlantic Canada) a few years ago. We had something called a Helicopter Underwater Emergency Breathing Apparatus (HUEBA). Very similar to the 'Spare Air' product I believe. Every helicopter trip you would have one of these things attached to your survival suit. Really just intended to give you a chance of survival if you had to escape from a ditched helicopter under water and swim to the surface (better than nothing, in other words). I would have thought it would be an extremely dangerous product to use recreationally. I cant imagine the supplier surviving the lawsuit after the first death.
They didn't, 1000+ have died now
You are right, it is dangerous. People that don't know the first thing about diving would end up with lungs barotrauma due to the difference in pressure and gass volume or even like you said - dead ....
Fun Fact. if you have any air in your lungs at depth you can easily make it to the surface without aid. It expands on the way up.. have done it myself with no air in my tank or lungs (exhaled before starting)
@@stratcat3216 what depth are we talking? my depth of knowledge with diving is swimming the length of a 3 ft rec center pool with a tank on lol
I learned how to use one of these in the military. I think it was only 1-2 minutes of slow breathing.
I fully agree with your video, but these small bottles are very useful for quick shallow dives such as inspection or repair of the boat, anchor untangling, etc. But, should only be used by trained divers. And forget the pump, fill it with a standard dive compresor.
As a rusted rescue diver, looking at how this is marketed is really scary. Many potential serious injuries are coming. And I say injuries, not accidents, because using this without training and damaging your lungs is not an accident, is stupidity.
I agree. This could certainly have its uses as you describe them above, as it'd save getting properly kitted up just to spend a couple of minutes sorting out some minor issue at a couple of metres.
*scary
@@westerling8436 thanks. Mixed the adjective with the verb form there 🙂
Rule of thumb: If it has girls in bikini in the AD,its a SCAM.
unless youre on an adult website. actually, those are probably scams too
@@Repah it's always a scam
Especially when they are fat like these are
@@catsbyondrepair they aren't fat though
Fyre festival:
Escobar phone:
Every girl within 2 miles:
"2 minutes of air"
Still better than the basic tank in subnautica
I always wondered why that game is set in the future but u have to get the BEST tank in the game to even get over 2 mins
@@corkyg3559 gameplay is gonna gameplay
to be fair, it refills instantly when you emerge, I'd definitely use it :p
@@corkyg3559 Not mentioning you gotta need a rebreather
Lol you can't hold air for 2 min 😅
The repair tech at my dive shop calls these “embolism makers” and as a diver watching people use this in their trailer is so stressful lol. Thanks for drawing attention to this! Stay safe y’all 🤙
what is a embolism
@@scott2903 air bubbles that can travel to your brain, heart, and lungs. On scuba/breathing pressurized air the reason you’re supposed to always breathe continuously is that it’s very dangerous to hold your breath and ascend quickly. Doing this can cause the air held in your lungs to expand and cause problems, embolisms being among them. This can happen in as shallow as 10-20 ft of water. Thats why these personal pressurized air tanks anyone can buy without proper training are dangerous: if you aren’t aware how to breathe properly on scuba/under water pressure it can cause serious harm or death.
@@brawlornothin1008 Also, to add to your comment.
Most people do not realize what the brain does when it panics deep underwater.
Proper decision making, air management, measure of time, all potentially can be vastly distorted.
Proper dive training is so important, and so many unique places have been closed from the public or sealed because of deaths. Sad to see most are improper education, or improper planning.
@@TTS-TP thank for reminding me to never go diving
They deserve that embolism if they're stupid enough to use it. Anyone dumb enough to believe this bs doesn't deserve air.
Fun fact, Spare Air was developed back in the 90s (I think) for Navy helicopter crews to be able to escape a water landing inversion quickly. It's really good for that. They later decided to market it for divers as spare air. I actually bought one back in the mid naughties. Never actually used it because it just wasn't worth the clutter it brought to my kit.
Easy solution; add solar panels and replace the pump with a hyper loop
Or add a thorium reactor
That idea is lacking tunnels
i wonder if that is also a solution for the gasthrusters on the flying teslas :D
@@etou1146 a bit boring, needing company
Actually, the only reason i didn't donate, is cause it doesn't produce drinking water.
The legend has it she is still pumping to this day
She is an Energizer Playboy Bunny.
1:21 She can "pump" my cylinder any day.
and the poor gys in the background still stepping back and forth
PortCharmers they can’t moonwalk off the ledge!
She was 300 LBS when she started pumping.
"you can die really quickly underwater" is more than enough warning for me to just not get in an ocean no matter what kind of bottle it is.
Bro, the true is nobody die quickly under the water.... i bet youd be agonized for air for like 3 minutes before you pass out for the lack of oxygenation, then you full die in like 3-5 mins after you pass out.
So is not quick die in 5/7 mins underwater... :v
Im not afraid of die.
But im very afraid of die by suffocation or burned alive :v.
I preffer a fast dead like hit by a 18 wheels truck or a shot in the head.
You can die any where any time. Diving is really beautiful, and safe I used scuba for the best part of 30 years never a problem , seen things that were unable to see anywhere else. But you best learn to swim well before getting into scuba diving.
Yo, they have underwater in your home now too.
Even avoiding the ocean, you won't be totally safe.
@@pak3ton suffocation is a pretty painless way to go actually, being burned alive however I would be afraid of
Being a pedestrian is more dangerous than scuba diving, assuming you get the proper training.
My first question is, before even wondering whether it’s a scam is “Is this safe?” Surely these people haven’t had any training and may not realize the extreme danger of holding your breath while ascending on a lung full of compressed air.
Maybe these kind of products should be sold with a 'max three meters deep' warning or so.
As far as I grasp it and this video also mentions, that's quite a safe depth pressure wise.
I’ve been getting by with a ziplock baggie filled with air.
It is instantly refilled without any troublesome pumps.
Send me 4 dollars and I’ll send you one.
Bruh how do I buy one
Please add detailed instructions on how to operate it
Disclaimer: May inhale water and die.
That guy needs to be careful. I saw a girl in a Scorkl t-shirt and bikini bottoms farting in his baggies while he was on break.
Nice scam😆😆😆
I'm convinced. I'm going to stick with my Triton Artificial Lung.
Are you going to upgrade to the Nanolatice H2O to O2 conversion lung for just $40,000USD. The surgery is an out-patient procedure!
Haha
I'll sell you one for half price! Just let me go out to my garage and whip one up real quick. I promise it will be just as effective!
@@VariantAEC I'm more in favor of getting a dolphin plastie
Another thing I must add that an important part of a scuba equipment is a BCD (buoyancy control device). Without it you won't be able to effortlessly glide under water like it is shown in the promotional videos for this "product"
A BC wouldn't be necessary to free dive.
In the Army, they had "pony bottles" for "very short" water insertions. In 1979, maybe 3 minutes.
I remember something like that. They had speacil straps to hold emergency tanks on a scuba tank they weren't around very long I thought that was around 72
Came for the girl, stayed for the physics.
Hehe, came for the girl! Hehe!
122 mm BR-471B Stalinium projectile Newton is forcing you
Ahahah
Honestly me too
Clickbait 101 my friend
But if you had an electric pump powered by a solar-fricken-roadway...
No think bigger. Thorium powered pumps.
Then it would take 2 years to fill? 😁
@@m4rvinmartian
It'll take even longer than that because you'll also want to get yourself drinking water from the air.
Ultrahighpressure Tesla/spacex booster tank
@@gibmeaway100 Thorium powered solar roadways powering a matter generator, allowing unlimited time under water!!!
"If she sat on the piston she still might not get enough". Maybe not but it would be fun to watch.
I was hoping to see that scene...must be on the cutting room floor.
Ach ! What have ye done woman ? The handles all slippery !
@@dennispickard7743 Read that in a thick (excuse me, *thicc* ) Scottish accent and that was so god damn funny. Don't know if it was supposed to be read in Scottish, German or Pirate, but they all work actually
Sephikong Lol 😂 yes I’m Scottish
Be well friend 👍🏻🍻🏴
Think i've seen that video already. It was on a different website though, not youtube.
The thing that would scare the hell out of me, is the regulator valve.
What would happen, if during an inhale, the valve sticks open, and fills your lungs with all the air in the tank?
I seriously doubt this valve is safe enough for anything...
If that valve stuck open it would not fill your lungs, the excess air escapes the vent. However what would be a problem is all your air would disappear in about 10 seconds if that happened.
Idiot
As a scuba diver I can tell you that any bottle you carry down underwater should be as ridiculously clean as you can get it.
The filtering equipment on scuba filling stations is one of the most often replaced materials. In good scuba stations they have rows upon rows of high pressure cylinders that are being filled continuously by very high grade pumps through industrial strength microfilters. Also the air should be as dry as possbile. These pumps are set off to the side, in a shack somewhere because they are LOUD. Because they have to work like crazy. The storage cylinders are usually filled to 300 to 350 bars, so they carry enough pressure to fill the usual 200 bars bottles scuba divers carry with them.
It takes a row of such storage cylinders around 2 minutes of exchanging pressures to fill a 15 liter bottle with a residual filling of around 10 bars to 200 bars.
During that time the filled bottle gets hot. Very hot. In summer it can get uncomfortably hot. Which is why you should let it cool off a bit before preparing for a dive.
At 200 bars you NEED two stages of regulators. One to reduce the pressure from 200 bars to around 10 bars in the first stage, and to the current dive depth pressure in the second stage.
If you do not have a second stage you will get a blast of 10 bars of pressure in the first few gulps.
If you condense that into a single stage which reduces the pressure from 200 bars (or whatever the pressure is in that minute one liter bottle) you will pay a ridiculous amount for that regulator.
Yes, it is technically possible to reduce it to one stage. But that also makes it a) ridiculously expensive and b) highly likely to fail easily.
But do not, under ANY circumstances take it apneu diving to let's say 30 meters depth (definitely possible to easily reach that depth free diving) and THEN take a breath from that bottle. Because that will definitely give you a very serious chance of killing you with a ruptured lung when you surface. The lungs tensile strength is enough to survive around 1.5 to 1.8, 2 max bars.
If you inhale from the bottle at 30 meters and then quickly rise to the surface, the air in your lungs will rapidly expand and experience a total internal pressure of around 4 bars (1 bar surface pressure plus 3 bars from 30 meters depth). That is at least 2 bars in excess of the tensile strength of your lungs. They will rip like an exploded balloon.
Especially if you have NOT been taught how to do an emergency surfacing maneuver. Which includes overcoming your instinct to hold your breath while surfacing. You actively have to overcome that instinct and breath OUT as continuously as possible. That MIGHT, if you are very lucky, give the expanding air in your lungs a chance to escape before it ruptures your lungs.
NOTE: DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS WITHOUT SUPERVISION OR A SKILLED MEDICAL TEAM CLOSE BY. THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS AND THE NUMBER 1 REASON FOR DIVING RELATED DEATHS.
THIS MANEUVER SHOULD ONLY BE ATTEMPTED IN A VERY SERIOUS DIVING ACCIDENT! AT ALL OTHER TIMES ALWAYS INCLUDE A DECOMPRESSION STOP AT 3 METERS DEPTH!
On the adiabatic bottle heating thing - once the bottle cools, you can usually expect to lose about 10-20% of the total pressure of when it was hot.
Stop on 3 to 6 metres is not called "decompression stop" it is called "safety stop" and it is practice mostly in "no decompression dives" (recreational dives) decompression stops are done on different depths (stage decompression) mostly used for technical diving (you can easily find depths and times in decompression/diving tables).
I am not a diver but from what I understand quick surfacing while exhaling can lead to all sorts of issues even if your lungs (and eardrums) survive. Especially the decompression sickness from the gasses dissolved in your blood could be an issue, I am not sure if you dissolve lots of gas while being in 30m for 2-3 minutes, but I suppose that witch quick ascent you might, and especially if you do not stay on coast but take a plane home or something it could lead to really nasty problems.
There is a reason why diving training takes some time.
Thank you for this information sir.
@@mrlazda its true that the differentiation between safety and decompression stop is made as you describe. However a safety stop IS a decompression stop, it just sounds less scary. Safety stop recommended but not required.
Ou you silly.
Just stick pipe to your car exhaust and you can fill it faster.
fill it with dry ice. should do wonders
Hahahahahahahaha!
Omfg 😝
You survive for the same amount of time either way
@@ItsMrAssholeToYou Than just use the new patreon one i set up for my Liquid Nitrogen filling tank! 694x the air capacity! meaning you pour in a litre of Liquid Nitrogen, you get 694 litres of air!!
If Thunderf00t was my science teacher I would never leave school. This channel is fun.
When I was a kid, I made one of these using a pair of 2L soda bottles and some tubing. I’d “regulate” the air by biting the tubes. I’d inflate it to about 80 PSI using a bike pump. Man, “diving” in the bathtub was great 😂 Let’s just say I really like MacGyver back then.
99% of the major Kickstarters: "We have made something that..."
Thunderf00t: "No you haven't"
You mean like Atari? A loving recreation of the Atari 2600 for the modern age? You mean the AMD Ryzen and 4 to 8gb of RAM? Wait for it.......Over 120 million USD raised to bring the backer what boils to a high end Raspberry Pi 4 with 4gb ram and the new Raspberry Pi with 8gb ram which you can get a 4gb around 50 USD and the Pi 8gb for 75 USD. Compare to the Atari VCS from 299 USD for the 4gb and 349 for the 8gb. Oh but Atari can't give the backers it's console, but made a cryptocurrency online casino and now is building an actual casino in Vegas all with the backers money!!!!! Now that is a scam!!! Oh as for this video, awesome and I'll just do it James Bond style and use a spare tire for air underwater.
Deathstrike_YT sorry to burst ur bubble but 4 and 8 gb of ram is that much it is actually very little
@@juelzjohnson2746 they are pretty alright, though a bit on the low side nowadays depending on application.
Running Linux on 4GB is perfectly fine, doing that on Windows however...
@@juelzjohnson2746 little? I was so happy when i knew that my pc had 8gb of ram because that is so much for a teen that has played on a pc with 2gb of ram.
@@juelzjohnson2746 little? thats still the standard amount someone would need to play any game really, getting anything more than 8 right now is a giant waste of money
Better Names for this device include: The Embolizer ... The Lung Exploder ... DIY Pneumothorax ... The Lung Popper ... and my favorite.... Recipe for Disaster ...
Le Lungs Go Kapoot
DIY pneumothorax
“Recipe for disaster”? More like “recipe for tasty shark treats”
DIY Pneumothorax 🤣🤣🤣
Also, my favorite; “the lung deflator”.
I think it's a blessing in disguise that this product never shipped. Just imagine how many people could have died using it.
What’s interesting to me, is this looks exactly like the original HEEDS bottles that we had in our survival vests in the Navy.
Yes!!! ...this is basically the _Wish_ version of a Helicopter Emergency Egress Device!
Thanks, a classic debunking video is the perfect thing to relax to.
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Relaxing?! These videos make me angry!
None Blank Even If that’s true, it doesn’t debunk the rest of the video
uzefulvideos It’s really kind of relaxing, to just sit by and watch a terrible project getting ripped apart. But of course it’s infuriating, as they made this much money.
@@blanknone5408 what does it debunk thought?
For $600 you could get your SCUBA 60ft certification, a decent pair of goggles, snorkel, fins, wetsuit, weightbelt, and rent a full tank with regulators and BC.
Chuzzlepuff Puffchuzzle 😥 I definitely over paid.
Not in cali
@@cucuydog6835 as if your exhaust emission regulations weren't enough :/
Hahahaha where in the world do you live?! All of that here would cost $5000 minimum
@@biggusdickus4992 *rent* tank regulators and BC
That pump is based on a "Hills pump" which was originally designed for filling air bottles used by PCP Air Rifles, some of them can be filled up to 310bar (4500psi). However, it does take a significant amount of effort once past 100bar and about 20 minutes of continuous pumping.
But for me, the primary concern would be the HLGI 2 Silicone Grease used to lubricate these hand pumps, which coupled with other airborne external vapours can contaminate the compressed air, resulting in aspiration into the lungs and subsequent pneumonitis. The second concern for me is how to control the amount of water (moisture) entering the tank through the filling process.
Why is regulating moisture a problem for scuba tanks?
The presence of high water content within a compressed gas is of concern if free water is able to form, this could result in internal corrosion or the freezing of valve components.
The air is also being compressed to 4500psi and when released via a regulator is subject to ambient expansion which results in a temperature drop and the formation of ice particles should too much moister be present, this could result in a restriction in gas flow.
Optional "Dry Pack" units can be fitted to these hand pumps which will reduce the transfer of moisture caused by adiabatic humidification (The water content of the air supplied by the compressor for filling 200 bar or 300 bar cylinders should not exceed 25 mg·m-3).
But that's not the only risk as an old friend experienced once on a diving trip in Egypt, one of his party had filled his own tank at a gasoline station, which led to hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide being inadvertently added to his mix which later resulted in him becoming incapacitated during his dive.
Great video, as a scuba diver these things terrify me, there is a reason we need so much training to dive safely. One point you missed is the bottle longevity, when you fill a regular scuba tank the air is filtered to make sure no moisture enters the tank, that fancy bike pump wont have one. Which means any moisture that enters the tank will eventually corrode the inside of the tank. Massive scam. great video.
Even for someone who never took basic chemistry and physics - but for everyone who has ever had to hand pump a bicycle or car tire - this should "intuitively" be bogus. A fool and his money...
It is not a bogus, it is just hard work to use the hand pump, that is why most people would fill it from big tank. I am surprised it was not delivered because much cheaper versions are already on the market. It is not much of use and could be dangerous, but spare air is not that hard to come by.
And yet you didn't notice the fact that thunderf00t actually said it will only take 10 mins to pump up and that technology like it already exists and works.
But you have a bike pump, so we should trust you. Okay buddy.
@@plaguedoct0r : Bicycle pump has a bigger piston. But yeah, it's tough when it gets up to 50 psi.
@@plaguedoct0r Huh? I didn't say anything about time. I'm talking about pressure.
@@harrymills2770 Thunderf00t did all of the calculations. They all agreed with what the Snorki claimed it could do. Thunderf00t's only disagreement was that it won't work at depths it wasn't designed to handle, and he also said that it MIGHT lead to people misusing it.
Neither of those mean that it's a scam product. Neither means that it shouldn't be made.
BOTH are qualitative bullshit arguments, not the careful scientific debunkings he usually presents.
Thunderf00t should be ashamed of this video.
The idiots that didn’t get their skorkel should be thanking they’re lucky stars. At least they’re still alive to ask for a refund
Roger that. You don't breathe compressed air without training. I'm imagining someone taking a deep breath then rapidly ascending while holding it.
It could just be a bikini commercial
Boi rapid ascention is no joke. It kinda scares me to think of an untrained person holding their breath at full and ascending.
@Bobby b they dont get the difference between snorkeling and scuba diving lol
@@davidlee1770 ive swam 50 feet underwater freediving the only bad thing is its cold as a mf at the bottom of lakes that feed rivers but you can find things at times like glasses but its quite hard to get your body to adjust to the cold you have to stay under for a good period to adjust so your muscles dont cramp up thats my enjoyment when i swim
as an mechanical engineer all the math you go thru here is on point dude
Favorite part
"an mechanical" 🤣
@@chrisheller2295 it was just an spelling error :P
@@chrisheller2295 tbf he didn't say English major. So spelling isn't his strong suit.
17:14 Filling from tank to tank can be extremely dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. I hope scorkl has an over-pressure release valve. :O
Fresh air from a can - whatever next? Steam powered kettle?
Now I want to watch space balls
A jettle, pulsejet powered kettle ;-) Ask Colin Furze
Well if you use the steam from the kettle to power the kettle... i think thats perpetual energy
ruclips.net/video/nXNOyknNwlQ/видео.html
WoW... imagine the energy returns if you would put a steam generator on a kettle so it would store the power for your next cup of tea! GENIUS!
basically, by the time you finish pumping it up, you're going to be too tired to go scuba diving
do like 6 bottles in a week and boom you got about 45 minutes of diving fun on the weekend!
@@JeremiahDouglas and also a fit body
2x1
@@JeremiahDouglasDon't forget to plan your funeral
Having done some Scuba diving in the past, I remember vividly exhaling on my Controlled Emergency Ascent to the point of being heard by my PADI instructor. The dangers of breathing compressed air were drilled into us during the course as was the need for safety stops of different durations depending on the depth (dive tables).
This product was just a fatality waiting to happen in my opinion.
I have a pump like this for an air rifle. The pumping is a bit of a pain, but the real issue is when you forget to let the pump cool after every 100 pumps or so. I managed to melt all the seals which now need replacing.
And the tank is not very big either.
She can give me 1 stroke per second, sounds great.
Plus 50ml a stroke? Seems like quite the adventure
Really? She looks like a 12 year old boy. I prefer at least some curves and femininity.
@@suburbanhobbyist2752 lol if only she were a black chick
Ah, handjob jokes. I'm glad to see another man of culture here.
Why are we geting onto such lewd topics on a science vedio
But does it come with all the bikini babes? If so, take my money.
a thot licence is required for that.
Bikini babes are sold separately.
Don't understand. You want a pony bottle AND a couple of extra holes in you hand?
Yes, but they are also inflatable
Hmm... seems vaguely familiar to those ads done by Fyre Fest.
i just got an ad for this product, renamed "scopel", and i am dying
I'm a diver, and I'm glad you made this video as this thing could definitely lure people into a false sense security.
The Scorkl website does say it's only intended for use at or above 3m, and I can understand how having even just 5 minutes of air is going to be a mind-blowing experience for most people who'd struggle to hold their breath for more than 20 seconds doing the same.
However, even at just 3m, suddenly and unexpectedly sucking the cylinder dry could be very dangerous, especially for anyone with no training or mental preparation in safely ascending from that depth on their final breath.
It doesn't sound very deep, but if someone happily swimming around, exhaled, tried to inhale and suddenly got nothing but a horrible feeling of resistance from the empty cylinder, it would be easy to panic. And given that the pressure gauge is out of sight on the mouthpiece, that's more than likely how most people are going to find out that the cylinder is empty.
Even if you do manage to resist the very natural urge to panic, you've still got to swim up on empty lungs, negatively buoyant and with gravity trying to pull you back down (whilst also remembering to exhale if you do still somehow have air left in your lungs).
I also can't tell if there's a purge valve on the regulator. If not that could be even more dangerous. If you somehow dislodge the mouthpiece or deliberately take it out for some reason, most people would just put it back in and try to breathe from it, and would then get a lungful of water.
And then on top of all that there's the jaw fatigue (which will be bad) and the fact you'll spend far more time re-pressurising the cylinder than you will using it 😂
What a disaster.
Scorkyl sounds like a bootleg Pokémon
Well to be honest it sound like a gen 8 Pokemon
Draw more sydney
And also a gen 1, so get over that already. @@paradoxzee6834
Give it two or three more years.
Actually I'm a bit older but I'm what I'm thinking of is an 80s cartoon called the snorks. Does anyone else remember the snorks?
When you have F in engineering, math and science.
But has A++ at public speaking, presentation and sales talk.
Marketing: 100
isn't it speech?
Steve Jobs ini a nutshell
@@tristan6509 "Think different" -Apple Inc. :)
@@tristan6509 Steve Jobs actually delivered product. These people, scammed millions for ZERO product.
These people knew exactly what they made. This product wasn't intended to work to begin with. Just to lure people who aren't smart enough to do their own research on google or just simply ask how this would work on some diving forum. Also can't really blame OP of the campaign, if there are so many idiots... why not make money off them?
Very god information. As a former diver with all the worlds oceans in my log book there are so many warning bells ringing when i se stuff like this. The first i was thinking about was ascending from the deep without exhaling, if you would manage to pump this thing to a pressure sufficient with this bicycle pump anyway...As mentioned in the video, rupturing your lungs can be f a t a l. People: get a license before attempting scuba diving.
We used spare air once for fun because it was about to expire (it was from a helicopter crew) and it was a ton of fun but it wasn’t very sustainable. I have proper scuba training (CMAS diving school) so I didn’t sustain any injuries but only because I knew what I was doing.
Crowdfunded products are a huge red flag because it shows that they couldn't convince private investors to take a risk.
Private investors are usually a lot more careful about where they invest their money.
Crowdfunding relies on the ignorance of people who are easily conned by simplicity and sales pitches that sound too good to be true.
Cannot agree. It is not always that simple.
Sometimes people just do not want to deal with private investors or many other reasons. Take a look on some projects in board game developments for example.
'Not at all. Yes, there are plenty of shady - to say the least - crowd funding campaigns. I have invested in several good ones. There are distinct advantages to crowd funding for some products. I haven't decided fully, yet, but I am considering opening at least three crowd-funded projects. If they are unsuccessful, then I will not have lost much, or perhaps nothing at all. If they are successful, then I will be able to produce low volumes of quality products without a lot of overheard. I don't expect any of these to have high volumes of sales.
There's... a bit of a difference between a board game and, say, Solar Roadways or Scorkl. You don't need an in-depth understanding of the subject to look at a game and say, "Yeah, that looks cool."
And even with games, there are plenty of horror stories about the designers taking the money and run. Just look what happened with Robotech RPG Tactics and Palladium Games.
@@stevenschnepp576 well, crowdfunding is always a risk, you need to keep it in mind.
As well as, you do not need a detailed in-deep understanding in projects like snorkl or that one with rebreather, you only need some simple understanding of how the world around you works. Not a quantum physics, but very basics of physics and chemistry. It's a shame that in some countries they do not educate people properly))
But hey, if you are smart enough to support such a project, maybe you can call it a "paid education"?)
@@leslierhorer1412 You havent invested into anything. You simply paid for something that wasnt made with the hopes it will be made one day. In other words, you put yourself at a tremendous financial risk. All in all, it has nothing to do with the term "invest"
I got certified for $100. (Instructor was a buddy of mine.)
I lived in Hawaii, and you could easily find lots of people selling used dive gear for pennies on the dollar. Everything you needed for a couple hundred bucks, no problem.
I used to dive three tanks a day, two or three days a week. All I had to pay for was air refills, and I got a discount for being local.
In Australia, the most you'll ever pay for a standard air refill from a reputable, government trusted dive shop, is $15.00 (230 bar).
Even then, the more you go in you'll find that they'll give you the odd one free or knock a few dollars off the regular price.
The idea of scuba diving makes me wish I lived near the ocean
Owen Sauve really? The idea of scuba diving makes *me* never want to swim again.
I bought one of these... pumped for about 40 mins with some breaks and got it 3/4 full. The pump got red hot while do so. Had 5-6 mins air 3 feet below the surface at a complete rest. Hhhhh....
A friend of mines mom worked in the hyperbaric chamber, she saw many people over the years come in from pool dives with embolisms, you can get injured in under 10 feet of water. "spare airs" were made as a last resort to get you to the surface in a semi-controlled ascent, not to get you down to depth. The makers of "spare air" have a hall way of testimonials for every year since the company was founded from people who got out of trouble with one.
Funny story:
When i was 8, in my dads car driving back home from a trip to a blueberry farm when i had a genius idea: use a pump to fill a big pop bottle and use it as a diy snorkel kit. Wont hold much air because it is plastic, but it will give you a few breaths and it will be super cheap. A few years pass and these damned companies stole my idea!
If you'd thought to connect that to a water pistol, you'd have invented the Super Soaker and would now be extremely rich.
@@greenaum except that im 15 now and super soakers have existed for years before me.
@Curtis Riceman 2012, mate. Give or take.
@Curtis Riceman Far as I know, plastic "scuba" gear for casual swimmers that you fill from a pump is a new thing. The lad didn't say he invented the idea of breathing from a tank.
I did that with a Camelback
Its VERY cheap to go very deep into the water...
Its expensive to get back out alive... ;)
True to go down all you need is a human and a lot of weight on there ankles
the right comment
the likely hood of dying is still incredibly low if you read any safety texts that scorkl provides on their kickstarter or indegogo
They are scammers @@jackp.1711 and they are fooling you. You are calling absolutely unreliable source of information. There are lot of scuba divers and instructors out there and they can tell you what the reality is.
Kudos, Scott! That was one of the funniest things I have ever read in my 56 years of life. Thanks for the laugh!
Just discovered this channel and I’m loving it. Finally someone I feel I can really trust.
As a diver since 1980, 3 meters with a breath of tank air at ambient pressure will KILL you. A mere 3 FEET (less than a meter) will cause embolism that can kill you.
Also, at 30 meters the pressure in your lungs is equal to the ambient pressure.
AND
Ascending from 100 feet or more is absolutely easy without ANY breaths from a tank and HAVE TO exhale the entire way up or die while traveling at no faster than your bubbles because the air will continue to expand all the way up. Dive courses (at least when I was certified) required an ascent from 60 feet.
The only concerns are:
1) the bends - do not dive into decompression ranges.
2) overhead instructions
3) entanglement
A million Australian dollars? I think you mean “dollarydoos.”
nice simpsons reference
That's a bloody outrage, it is!
I’da called them Chadwuzzers.
They don't call them dollarydoos anymore because dingos ate my baby!
Am Australian, can confirm. It's dollarydoos.
Your "busted" videos are why I subscribed. Keep em coming!
Definitely.
I would watch him explain paint drying.
@@willdabeast1386 Just means you are a beta.
Ya cause you wouldn't like his anti woman stuff, I would think.
Subscribed ! Thanks again for the channel and hard work you have done
I'm a rescue diver underwater welder. I've had years of training starting in 1998. On my final open water cert dive I blew an ear drum. Lucy I was at 35' and was just a little congested. I healed up after 3 months. Yes your jaw can get very soar. I'm Padi cert to rescue with other certs for speciality certs in different areas.
Ha ha ha. LOL. Did you notice all the real divers with the scuba gear and tanks @0:23 - 0:26. Pause it at 23 and 24 sec. They were probably the filming crew.
Standing by with spare regulators in case the guy's Scorkl popped out of his mouth or ran out of air.
Basic safety, you wouldn't get insurance to be able to do this sort of video without proper divers and spare air
@@Gobtik Sure, but you can sell the crap. Ahh what's not to like about runaway capitalism.
I’m surprised any reputable scuba diver would contemplate assisting marketing this. Dangerous on so many levels.
Bushtrail, seriously, maybe the scuba-diving associations all over the world should issue warnings to the general public against usage of such unsafe devices. If you know anyone who's active in such things, please send him a message.
(I'm not a diver myself, and even I can see how this damn thing promotes unsafe practices.)
Hmm. It MUST be easy to force tons of air into a small cylinder... That's why powerful piston air compressors that have enough oomph to fill a semi truck tire to 100 PSI, which WILL kill you if said tire fails and blows up, even at that pressure, which is a tiny fraction of what air tanks hold. Aren't even close to being up to the job of filling breathing air tanks. Old school firefighting air tanks, the big heavy metal ones, hold about 2800 psi. The newer, lighter, relatively stronger composite tanks are generally rated a little over 4000psi. In order to fill either, we have to use a cascade system, which is a giant air compressor connected to a series of tanks that successively decrease in size down the line. These systems are incredibly large, noisy, and expensive. They are also majestically dangerous. Your air tank goes into a big heavy steel armored frag sleeve/box/tube/chamber (depending on age, model of cascade system) because any tiny unseen failure in the tank being filled is CATASTROPHIC. Shit will level the damn building if it's not particularly well built. Compressed air at these pressures is no joke. I'm a firefighter, a pilot, an adrenaline junkie, and there's very little I fear... But compressed air at a few thousand psi scares the ever loving shit out of me. Anytime I have to fill one of those damn tanks, my sphincter suddenly becomes rated for 4500 psi. To say nothing of the fact that the damn tanks get HOT when you're cramming that much air into them. But yeah. Seems like something a 130 pound bikini chick could do, and do safely, with a bike pump.
You need to look at precharged air rifle pumps.
Actually its not too hard with this product. I use mine all the time
Um do you not believe in hydrostatic testing, and physical examination
Mate a failure in a tank that is being filled isn't going to be "CATASTROPHIC" and level the entire building. I've seen 200bar steel tanks suddenly decompressing. Yes, it's dangerous, there is a big bang and they become heavy projectiles that have a scary punch. But they aren't bombs that destroy buildings ^^
@@earlgrey2130 he's a pilot. Pilots over exaggerate everything.
I tried this a few weeks ago and I can confirm, it is a lot of work for just a little fun. It takes 20-30 minutes to fill the bottle up to 200 bar and this really is an exhausting workout. An inexperienced diver consumes the air 2-3 minutes, an experienced diver in double the time, but they would most likely use normal sized tanks.
“There’s a sucker born every minute.”
remember how hard it was to pump your super soaker as a kid. enough said
Hahahahah great analogy.
Until you learn the water hose will attach
@@jackiehopson8334 yh but who wants to drag a hose around? and most houses only have one or two faucets hooked up with hoses
@@maybelikealittlebit what is wrong with the Miatas oil temperature gauge
Years ago while serving in the military, we went through exercises designed to help us escape from a helicopter that has ditched in the water. Each of us were issued a small "bailout" bottle very similar to this. Our instructors told us the bottles held enough air for us to exit the helicopter and begin ascending to the surface. One jokingly said, if you can control your breathing, you may get 5-mins worth of air. We thought, if it just gave us enough air to get outside of the helicopter, it was worth the weight/money/hassle etc. Fortunately, I never had to put the bottle to the test.
Yep, that's what Spare Air originated as. From what I heard it was issued to many Navy helo crews for this very purpose. You have to ditch and submerge quickly or invert and it's meant to give you time to get oriented and escape. Nothing more. This whole business of unskilled diving using it is just asking for trouble.
I actually pretty much like the idea as an emergency tool.
You guys got air tanks ? Our HUET is with what ever your own lungs can hold.
@@diesockedeslebens6599 I usually dive with a Luxfer 13 CF bottle, vintage Conshelf XIV with 6 foot hose and 6" SPG hose. That gives me more than 10 minutes at 40'.
We carried these for VBSS in the Navy, supposedly to escape a scuttled boat. Like most of our equipment we never trained with or used them.
I used these in the Navy 30 years ago as an emergency heeds bottle when I was a crewchief in a helicopter. They are fun in a pool.
Literally got an ad on this video for this very product (same thing but called “scopel”)…the same exact thing, even showed the same pump!
This is like a school project where you have to create a cool and fancy object (lacking science behind it) to entice people to buy it. lol
You just described the public school required "Science Fair Project" which glorifies the one kid who's parents are actual scientists.
Yeah but it not scam since the creator is a kid and they scare to scam someone lmao
On a robotics team a long time ago the theme was clean water or something. And they wanted to do nanobots. They had no idea how it would work, nk prototypes and overall it was stupid.
Try adults version in Fortune 50 companies. Fake project scopes peddled all the way to CEO - literally, CEO made mention of these projects thinking they’re real, in front of analysts and investors.
I'm starting to wonder if anarchy would be better than large companies at ruling the world
YES i was waiting for another BUSTED video please do more :)
All you have to do is come up with a really bad idea, start a kickstarter, raise a million dollars or so, then watch Thunderfoot make a busted video about it. 😁
@@my3dviews Holly shit i never thought about it this way i'm going on Scamstarter right now XD
@@michal_c9007 Oh, and make sure that it has solar panels on it, that always gets lots of support. LOL
Legit good channel . thanks for the hard work man. I enjoy your voice and opinion
I saw this on a special on "James Bond Gadgets "
In one movie James Bond uses a pen-sized device to give him, according to Q, five minutes of air while underwater. And he uses it to swim through an underwater tunnel.
After the movie came out the studio was contacted by the Royal Navy about this device and how it worked. The studio informed them that THAT particular device was just a nonworking prop like most of the other devices were.
i love that people think that someone on kickstarter somehow made better diving gear than the us navy
@@ES-qe1nh if by "works" you mean make money than yes your right. otherwise its an overpriced copy of an existing cheaper device.
@@ES-qe1nh So does social Darwinism, it seems.
The US Navy and holidaymakers have different requirements from their dives. That's why cheap plastic snorkels are perfectly acceptable for one, but not the other.
" than the us navy
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just because its military doesn't mean its good contracts go to the lowest bidder i was in the military for a decade most soldiers prefer to buy third party nonissued gear
@@indeed8211 Ah yes, please point me to the nearest rebreather reseller please.
Thunderf00t over here being the buzzkill, while the rest of us simple creatures just wanted to watch females hand pumping phallic objects for 30 minutes...
Great video, got 'em again!
and women with small tanks stuffed in their mouths
Right? What a nerd!
Why do you give females such power. Why put them on a pedestal? Oh wow a woman with pump wooowwww gives you excitement? Never give them the power.
At this point, just be a free diver. Freedivers can go hundreds of feet deep and they don't have to worry about narcosis, the bends (they're not down there long enough to exceed NDL), and even lung expansion injuries..(holding the same breath, so no expansion issues).
The worst danger is shallow water blackout.
We built a diving helmet when we were kids, out of a piece of plexiglass glued over a big hole in 5 gallon bucket, bricks to help hold the helmet on our shoulders, and a hose running to the surface to a hand pump. It barely worked at 10 meters.
I have a genius idea:
Very long straw
infinite dive time
Unless you want to only breathe 6 inches under water. Physics.
In my country, they use these long ass dextrose straw hooked to a machine that pushes air into it.
This is illegal btw, but its such a cheap way to get fishermen to dive into deep sea without scuba gear.
@@slayerbllade Yeah I've seen a video on that, illegal for a reason, haha! Pretty scary stuff but it is what it is and at least they know the risks, unlike this.
It wouldn't work because no human would have the lung capacity to draw the air from the surface.
@@V0YAG3R I fucking love you
Why is it that 99.9999999% of everything I see on crowdfunding is slapping a new label on an already commercially available product?
because it's easier to rip something off than to actually create something original.
You've just been looking in the wrong places, if you want a real bargain I have the latest and greatest in revolutionary water traversing walkways with your name on it, just $999.99 exclusively for you! *adjusts tie nervously*
Because when you have an actual new idea, nobody wants to throw money at it without some sort of proof it will work, even if it is as half-ashed as there being competing products on the market.
Because people are dumb enough to spend money on crowdfunding.
@@yissssss All of your answers are correct & it's sad that they are. :(
those guys "dancing" back and forth behind her while she pumps is weirdly hypnotic.
( yeah I know he's just looped the video, but still)
and the boat going forward and backwards.
Of the three times I’ve been diving two were among the best events in my life! The third time very nearly killed me.
Diving is a serious undertaking. Things can get f’ed up in a heartbeat. Putting something like this in the hands of half-assed snorkelers is stupid beyond belief!
Thanks, I think I'll stick to skydiving
I have an idea, what if we take this design, and make it bigger, and we'll strap it onto your back with a hose that takes the hair to your mouth?
...wait...
Takes the hair to your mouth lol
@@966Mako 😂😂 woops lol
Did you watch the video? This is not the same as a dive tank. This is such a bad idea on so many levels I do not know where to start.
@@1gallimaufry sarcasm is hard to portray in comments lol
@@kjs8719 nah we all got it. @1gallimaufry is just dumb dumb
12:18 "All the dangers of scuba diving on the cheap without any benefits." Lol.
The Spare Air was legit and never meant for people going snorkeling. I bought one as a backup system, after i once had a technical problem with my first stage and had to get to my buddys octopus. If a problem shows up, after having exhaled and only water comes through your mouthpiece ... you have very few seconds until panic. Afterwards i learned, that my mouthpiece just slipped from my first stage. You would think, that this is no big deal. But if you face that situation under water and are desperate for a lungfull of air ... things looks quite differently. Then you will learn, that there is only time for trained behaviour - which was going for my buddies octopus. So i wanted to have a second, independent airsource. If only to calm my nerves. To sell something like this for snorkelers, that don't have any training and no pressure gauge attached ... this is plain stupid and hghly dangerous.
I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this but you're not supposed to fill any scuba-style tank with unfiltered air (like from a bicycle pump).
Small amounts of noxious gases can be unnoticeable in open air but dangerous when compressed and taken underwater.
The second I saw this video I was thinking, "Re-branded Spare Air bottle plus faked video footage." Wonders never cease.
Any freediver or scuba diver worth their salt is gonna stare in horror at the noobs who buy into this campaign because they're seriously cutting corners. Thanks for including Alec Pierce's video as commentary.
Also, if these Darwinners are as good in court as they are with researching scuba diving, I hope someone's PPV livestreaming that trial ... because it's gonna be hilarious.
Yeah, that was the first thing I thought, too. SpareAir bottles are kind of nice, but I always preferred a standard air pony.
MiG-21bis Fishbed-L I thought exactly that. In fact i bet they are actual spare air bottles, since (I think) they are still under patent
Why why doesn't the air coming out of a scuba kit drop to below freezing as you release it by breathing? When you compress a gas and then let it out of the container, it gets extremely cold. So why doesn't this happen with SCUBA?
@@tarstarkusz It does happen. When you dive in very cold waters during winter, if you test your regulator on the surface, before you dive, sometimes your regulator can freeze and get stuck in the open position, letting all the air escape and making a lot of noise. Very annoying :)
This is why it's recommended not to test your regulator for too long on the surface, if the temp is below zero.
+MrK... But does this happen because because of the cold water or because of the expanding gas?
I'm not sure this should be discouraged. It actually does look like natural selection at work.
Only if they deliver.
Astarath You got us in the first half not gonna lie.
a trap is hardly natural...
How the hell did all of you miss the fact that thunderf00t never said it won't work? He repeatedly said that there is similar technology, that all their calculations on how long it will last and the depths at which it should be used are all spot on.
His only objection was that people would abuse it and try to go too deep, and that it won't work at those depths.
So yes, natural selection at work if you're an idiot and abuse it.
But a great fun product if you use it correctly.
People weren't wrong to invest.
@@plaguedoct0r what? You just contradicted him to arrive at the same conclusion
In the tropics the 3 breaths till death would be great for spearfishing because any extra time down there is helpful
Very good video. As a diver I would like to say that an 8l / min consumption is very low. Only a child or small woman who is super relaxed could get there. My organization has the standard for diving set at 20l / min for safety with a seasoned male diver probably being at 12-16l / min according to fitness, weight etc.
It's funny how scuba gear doesn't cost this much
Perhaps if you rented or really skimped on everything and didn't include lessons/cerfitication fees. I'm not too extreme in the hobby, but I've easily sank $700+ on basic equipment.
Are you talking about rentals ? I hope so, dive gear gets into the thousands... easy. My Basic no frills PADI set up was over $2000. My DIR/GUE set up... over $5000. My regulators and hoses alone were $1000. I have over 2400 dives in.
I have over 10,000 easy in my system. I don't want to die. I'm not saying you need even near that but diving will kill you. I would think 2000 is a good number for a good beginner set
@@ronaldbrown9638 I'd love to spend that kind of scratch on gear. I'm landlocked and most of mine was bought as a teenager so I went pretty cheap.
@@ronaldbrown9638 I should have been clearer. I was talking about duplicating that system with a certified used gauge for near surface use. A pony bottle costs nowhere near that much. A used regulator would work better than that thing. I can't imagine how tired your mouth would be with a bottle hanging off of it.
Damn. She can pump for 25 minutes... I can barely get 3.
Well, there are these little blue pills you can get to help with that problem.
@@kleinjahr don't need them if you don't lose it anyway, simply keep pumping...
I remember being able to pump a bikini-clad blonde for 25 minutes...*sigh*
@@robertcartier5088 Must have been a huge blow-up doll if it really took 25 minutes to pump full!
@@MrZetor Curves, man... It's all about the curves. ;-)
Great content! Factual, and accurate! 😎
I could imagine this easy to understand for non-technical people 👊🏻
Scuba is more dangerous than skydiving....
As someone who holds a PADI SCUBA certification, those 0.5 L mini bottles can hold about 5-10 minutes of air, and are compressed to PSI more akin to a garage/shop compressor to the ultra HPA of a full size tank, so you could inflate it with a manual pump. It would be like inflating a giant tractor tire by hand, but it's not impossible. Definitely impractical rubbish when you can get a cheap portable electric compressor to fill the backup bottles for you though. It's also nothing new, these have been sold as emerge backups for years, you see them for a few hundred in dive shops.
It does depend on depth though, deeper you go, the less time a given volume lasts. Also truth told, no dive shop is gonna refuse a sale if you don't produce a certification, so any dimwitt could probably buy SCUBA gear before this repackage of spare air and get themself killed.
Playing around with oxygen in an environment you can't breathe in... yep... like cleaning a loaded gun.
Don't forget how awesome this will be, when you pump in, invisible gases like carbon monoxide, because you're doing this in your old ass leaky camper as you're driving to the beach.
What's the problem with cleaning loaded guns, I'm doing it right n
A high-pressure gas vessel just a few cm from your mouth. Sounds safe.
The94GTC yes. Seeing as people have been using those tanks for a long time extremely safely
@@europeansovietunion7372
person makes a new product on kick starter.
Thunderf00t "i'm about to debunk this persons whole kickstarter"
Apart from that they made this back in 2016 or 2017 or something like it.
Person makes a copy of an old product that is barely better than nothing as an emergency device
Thunderfoot: "Well, this is bullshit"
Honestly, there is great value in pounding into peoples brains that high school level science should be applied before backing any "new" product.
All The Money Should Just Go To Thunderfoot Then!
As a diver, I love this video. Many people would fall for this, beautiful women in the ocean on a beautiful reef somewhere and of course I want to buy a tank like this, and swim in the ocean with the beautiful women.
This type of bottles I see as an emergency bottle if you need to go up to the surface and your regular scuba gear is failing, and you should NEVER run out of oxygen in your regular gear, but if it happen because of leaks or something else it´s great to have this type of bottle. But it´s a false security to only have this, someone will be like "oh a wreck down there" let´s swim down there and explore and then the air is gone after seconds and you have a bad day...
You would need a specialist pump built for charging PCP air rifles to fill the little dive cylinder ,there's no way she would have the physical strength to manually pump enough air into it ,as a shooter I've had experience with pumps and compressors , I'm still stunned that people backed this.
A great thing about hot Aussie girls? ...It takes less pumps for them to finish.
Are we still talking about air?
They're mostly manly and uncouth. Behaving like men. The ones in this video are either extremely below average or fat. The only decent one was the one in the water.
@@strategicthinker8899 I'm certain you are talking about aussie aboriginals.
@@dylanslater83 You ever left Australia and gone somewhere comparable, with European-descended people? Plenty of Australian women are gorgeous!
We arent talking about air anymore!
gamestar the game boss the girls are airheads
Got to start my own scam...er, I mean new product line! Yeah, that....
I will not tell anyone it is a scam for 10% of profit
@@jold3174 Don't underestimate human stupidity. Scam victims tend to make it worse for themselves through denial. It's sort of the sunk cost mentality, where the more they invest in the scam, the less they want to believe they were scammed, so the more they'll invest into it and so on. That's why scam victims will give away their entire savings to some Nigerian prince and refuse to believe that they're being scammed.
I remember all of the Solar Roadway idiots claiming that people had laughed at the Wright brothers and everyone was doing the same with Solar Roadways.
Dehydrated Water might be a good starter project
@@ivanlagrossemoule
But more people will invest if they think it is real
I think I'll start a company offering to to pursue refunds from failed crowd funding campaigns... for a fee, of course!
I legit just got an ad for ‘Scopel’ on this video and it’s literally just the same this as the Skorkl
I love all the busted videos, you learn so much .🙂🙂