Public Beach Or Private Playground? SoCal Landowners Keep Access Limited

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
  • For decades, the beaches at Hollister Ranch, north of Santa Barbara, have been like a distant ship on the horizon - beautiful, alluring, elusive and largely unreachable. Devin Fehely reports. (7/11/18)

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  • @richardgleaves
    @richardgleaves 24 дня назад +1

    Oh to see the Big Drakes lineup with 500 schoolkids on Boogie boards ... it would warm my Amtrak observation-car heart.

  • @robinperronjones5024
    @robinperronjones5024 2 года назад +4

    Rich “me me me” syndrome, negotiated compromise between the parties is always the way to to resolve a problem, not money and selfishness

    • @newhorizonslifecoachcheers
      @newhorizonslifecoachcheers Год назад

      Whether the land owners are rich or not the problem is immature people who don't care about preserving California. The #1 thing California is suppose to be BIG on! They know those "surfers" will trash that beach as they have trashed all the others! And you know it's going to happened! Home owners should not have to their home and property be trashed by inconsiderate fools who don't care and never will!

  • @edwardroche2480
    @edwardroche2480 Месяц назад +1

    If you want to limit access turn it into a state park like they do in Florida, and then you can control the number of people. But who pays for the roads? The public, then they should have access on the East Coast since the 1960s people have been trying to stop the public from walking up and down the beach. They have mostly succeeded.

  • @Bobrogers99
    @Bobrogers99 2 года назад +3

    The Coastal Commission vote isn't surprising. Money talks.

  • @onlythewise1
    @onlythewise1 2 года назад +3

    its law access to ocean must not be infringed

    • @Sodiumreactor
      @Sodiumreactor 2 года назад +3

      It IS being infringed. More and more. Sounds to me like the Coastal Commission is no longer working for the people.

    • @newhorizonslifecoachcheers
      @newhorizonslifecoachcheers Год назад

      Whether the land owners are rich or not the problem is immature people who don't care about preserving California. The #1 thing California is suppose to be BIG on! They know those "surfers" will trash that beach as they have trashed all the others! And you know it's going to happened! Home owners should not have to their home and property be trashed by inconsiderate fools who don't care and never will!

    • @onlythewise1
      @onlythewise1 Год назад

      @@newhorizonslifecoachcheers wrong you are , maybe you and the devil shouldn't be such good friends

  • @deedubs602
    @deedubs602 4 года назад +16

    If You can get there by boat and use it then it’s accessible. You just can’t drive through private property to get there.

    • @ricknelsonm
      @ricknelsonm 3 года назад +1

      YOU SHUT UP

    • @techhelpportal7778
      @techhelpportal7778 3 года назад

      @@ricknelsonm that's not an argument

    • @briangallagher787
      @briangallagher787 2 года назад +1

      Hate to tell you, but ALL California public Beaches have public access, and by black letter law private property owners have to provide that..

    • @daviddiehl-gy2sq
      @daviddiehl-gy2sq Год назад

      ​@@briangallagher787apparently NOT.

  • @franklesser5655
    @franklesser5655 2 года назад +3

    It makes sense for certain stretches of coastline to be protected from segments of society that don't know how to appreciate and care for those beaches.

  • @dorthymcbride3384
    @dorthymcbride3384 3 года назад +7

    Everyone should have access to all beaches! The city should make a clear and safe access! If the rich want their own beach, than just buy an island🏝

    • @newhorizonslifecoachcheers
      @newhorizonslifecoachcheers Год назад

      Whether the land owners are rich or not the problem is immature people who don't care about preserving California. The #1 thing California is suppose to be BIG on! They know those "surfers" will trash that beach as they have trashed all the others! And you know it's going to happened! Home owners should not have to their home and property be trashed by inconsiderate fools who don't care and never will!

    • @daviddiehl-gy2sq
      @daviddiehl-gy2sq Год назад

      They did it's called California.

  • @lorenzo6mm
    @lorenzo6mm 2 месяца назад

    RE....Open the
    Boat launch and Pier
    At Gaviota State Beach Park...

  • @tedphillips2501
    @tedphillips2501 3 года назад +4

    Look at the transition from light sand to medium sand. That's the high water mark. It marks the boundary between private an public ownership.

    • @user-Jamie218
      @user-Jamie218 3 месяца назад

      is this a Hunter S. Thompson reference

  • @lorenzo6mm
    @lorenzo6mm 2 месяца назад +1

    Reopen the boat launch and oier
    At Gaviota.....its the Law.

  • @reinmanvic
    @reinmanvic 4 года назад +9

    If the people and state are set against the homeowners. Then why dont you build an access to the beach without going thru the private property. And come to an agreement . And help the private homeowners pay taxes on there property , that you want other people too access. These people find it easy to say crap , cuz they dont pay the taxes for the property.

  • @backwoods7678
    @backwoods7678 2 года назад +1

    Beaches .. Rivers and more yes rich and oil companies or power plants and even movie stars and or government own lots and are taking everything away

  • @marlaflores3190
    @marlaflores3190 Месяц назад

    Selfishness? I just don't like the idea of the masses coming in when you know things will be built ( concrete etc ) to make access more comfortable...does anybody remember what President Clinton did to Gaviota Park with those Improvements ? All the trees and brush land Gone - along with the Bird migration...no , let's keep something in it's natural state where the hills roll down to the sea

  • @denniswilliams4789
    @denniswilliams4789 3 года назад +7

    It is not an unusually nice beach per se- visually quite similar as south OC beaches and north SanDiego beaches. The difference is no people. No trash. No noise. I have walked hours at the Ranch and it is sublime- add the general public and you'll have Blacks Beach 2. The boat story was disingenuous. Surfers have boated in for decades. The black top two lane road traversing the property entering from the south is not up to traffic and has a 25MPH speed limit. The beaches have no facilities. No parking. No restrooms, lifeguard stations, or lifeguards. No medical support. It is completely unsuitable to be opened to the public and it would require millions of dollars in infrastructure upgrades to become viable. For the number of people who would be willing to drive the distance it is certainly not a best use case for those resources. Unlike PCH in Malibu or Coast Rode in Santa Cruz there is no existing public road thru the ranch to just add an access path down to the sand. It is entirely private. The cost of a new up to current standards transportation corridor connecting the town of Hollister could take years and cost a billion dollars. Sometimes the Surfrider activists need to find reasonable windmills to battle instead of wanting what they want like children.

    • @ricknelsonm
      @ricknelsonm 3 года назад

      OH SHUT UP

    • @jamesrusselleriii8284
      @jamesrusselleriii8284 2 года назад

      Okey dokey boomer, but that still doesn't change the fact that it isn't your beach and you don't have the right to bar public access to it.

  • @pl5555
    @pl5555 3 года назад +9

    its "unfair"
    wah wah wah
    maybe the beach is so nice because the riff raff doesn't know about it

  • @bigmak9636
    @bigmak9636 4 года назад +8

    You don't own the land you cannot use it

  • @onlythewise1
    @onlythewise1 2 года назад

    follow the law and intelligence access to all ocean is citizens' rights , not right to illegals, ten thousand kid die each year in car accident dont talk about people dying when America fail to make cars safer

  • @ci3326
    @ci3326 4 года назад +14

    Keep it closed. Agreed. Otherwise it will become garbage place like most beach.

    • @ac0rpbg
      @ac0rpbg 4 года назад +5

      @@ArtoriasTheRock The thing is it is not their beach. Imagine a situation where someone manages to buy all the roads to your house. And say you can have access via air only.

    • @haydengarfield_
      @haydengarfield_ 3 года назад +1

      @@ArtoriasTheRock there is public access... just gotta boat. And no I don't have access their either.

    • @haydengarfield_
      @haydengarfield_ 3 года назад

      @@ac0rpbg But there is access by boat.. And no I don't have access to the ranch either and im not whining.

    • @L83467
      @L83467 2 года назад

      @@haydengarfield_ yeah cause it's so easy to get a boat

  • @HardCoreGarage
    @HardCoreGarage 3 года назад

    People have the right to pollute and destroy whatever they want... basically

    • @am4793
      @am4793 3 года назад +3

      I think it is the millionaire class who pollute the environment to get wealthy. Ordinary people have very small carbon footprints 👣

    • @newhorizonslifecoachcheers
      @newhorizonslifecoachcheers Год назад

      Whether the land owners are rich or not the problem is immature people who don't care about preserving California. The #1 thing California is suppose to be BIG on! They know those "surfers" will trash that beach as they have trashed all the others! And you know it's going to happened! Home owners should not have to their home and property be trashed by inconsiderate fools who don't care and never will!

  • @MrIsomer
    @MrIsomer Год назад +1

    "I think it's unfair, and there are alot of human beings who should have the right to use it". Cry me a river dude. If you really want to get in there to experience, you can figure out a way...

  • @Arrowflight
    @Arrowflight Год назад

    Maybe if they paid for an access to be built.

  • @toothnail605
    @toothnail605 2 месяца назад

    Tho keeping this area the way it is I totally get it; BUT! Stoping any human from enjoying the ocean and not allowing them in is well that's criminal and I would have to say the less of the two evils is to let em in. Been surfing for 48 years non stop though i've never surfed The Ranch (always wanted to) stoping people from accessing the ocean is bs. At least let them walk along the high tide line or a designated trail. Either way man has destroyed CA especially the beaches, too much to list on that one. Build build build $ $ $ Next they'll build houses and ranches in front Yosemite on both sides and say you can't go in.

  • @billfeld5883
    @billfeld5883 4 года назад +1

    Fake drama, get real ,tell the truth not your imagination.

  • @johnhanselman6371
    @johnhanselman6371 4 года назад +7

    Finally a place in CA without crackheads and heroine addicts. What could go wrong by granting access to all CA people?

  • @heysailorreedy6651
    @heysailorreedy6651 Год назад

    The state needs to make its own excess instead of someone's property

  • @daviddiehl-gy2sq
    @daviddiehl-gy2sq Год назад

    Their Private property goes all the way down to the high tide make. You have no right to use it.

  • @GuitarWithBrett
    @GuitarWithBrett Год назад

    Good keep beaches more protected

  • @waltjisneychannel74
    @waltjisneychannel74 Год назад

    Public access already exists! Keep the gates closed!

    • @boogieheads
      @boogieheads Год назад

      can i walk there from Jamal? noo…

  • @fhuber7507
    @fhuber7507 3 года назад +1

    Waaaaaaaah.
    If you want to give easy access, buy one of the properties at its current value to provide access. Rip the home down and put in a parking lot and public restrooms.
    But don't complain that people bought their dream plot of land and built their homes and don't want you on their property.,

  • @paulwilliams5208
    @paulwilliams5208 4 года назад

    been a universal place between land(vegetation) and sea (water) beach is of sand, sand is underwater, as is around the WORLD.
    Just as there no parking/no standing for cars by the roadway,
    thus beach is of land and sea, public should be able to TRANSIT but may NOT stay or lay on "property"