Public Beach Or Private Playground? SoCal Landowners Keep Access Limited
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- For decades, the beaches at Hollister Ranch, north of Santa Barbara, have been like a distant ship on the horizon - beautiful, alluring, elusive and largely unreachable. Devin Fehely reports. (7/11/18)
Oh to see the Big Drakes lineup with 500 schoolkids on Boogie boards ... it would warm my Amtrak observation-car heart.
Rich “me me me” syndrome, negotiated compromise between the parties is always the way to to resolve a problem, not money and selfishness
Whether the land owners are rich or not the problem is immature people who don't care about preserving California. The #1 thing California is suppose to be BIG on! They know those "surfers" will trash that beach as they have trashed all the others! And you know it's going to happened! Home owners should not have to their home and property be trashed by inconsiderate fools who don't care and never will!
If you want to limit access turn it into a state park like they do in Florida, and then you can control the number of people. But who pays for the roads? The public, then they should have access on the East Coast since the 1960s people have been trying to stop the public from walking up and down the beach. They have mostly succeeded.
The Coastal Commission vote isn't surprising. Money talks.
its law access to ocean must not be infringed
It IS being infringed. More and more. Sounds to me like the Coastal Commission is no longer working for the people.
Whether the land owners are rich or not the problem is immature people who don't care about preserving California. The #1 thing California is suppose to be BIG on! They know those "surfers" will trash that beach as they have trashed all the others! And you know it's going to happened! Home owners should not have to their home and property be trashed by inconsiderate fools who don't care and never will!
@@newhorizonslifecoachcheers wrong you are , maybe you and the devil shouldn't be such good friends
If You can get there by boat and use it then it’s accessible. You just can’t drive through private property to get there.
YOU SHUT UP
@@ricknelsonm that's not an argument
Hate to tell you, but ALL California public Beaches have public access, and by black letter law private property owners have to provide that..
@@briangallagher787apparently NOT.
It makes sense for certain stretches of coastline to be protected from segments of society that don't know how to appreciate and care for those beaches.
Everyone should have access to all beaches! The city should make a clear and safe access! If the rich want their own beach, than just buy an island🏝
Whether the land owners are rich or not the problem is immature people who don't care about preserving California. The #1 thing California is suppose to be BIG on! They know those "surfers" will trash that beach as they have trashed all the others! And you know it's going to happened! Home owners should not have to their home and property be trashed by inconsiderate fools who don't care and never will!
They did it's called California.
RE....Open the
Boat launch and Pier
At Gaviota State Beach Park...
Look at the transition from light sand to medium sand. That's the high water mark. It marks the boundary between private an public ownership.
is this a Hunter S. Thompson reference
Reopen the boat launch and oier
At Gaviota.....its the Law.
If the people and state are set against the homeowners. Then why dont you build an access to the beach without going thru the private property. And come to an agreement . And help the private homeowners pay taxes on there property , that you want other people too access. These people find it easy to say crap , cuz they dont pay the taxes for the property.
OH SHUT UP
Beaches .. Rivers and more yes rich and oil companies or power plants and even movie stars and or government own lots and are taking everything away
Selfishness? I just don't like the idea of the masses coming in when you know things will be built ( concrete etc ) to make access more comfortable...does anybody remember what President Clinton did to Gaviota Park with those Improvements ? All the trees and brush land Gone - along with the Bird migration...no , let's keep something in it's natural state where the hills roll down to the sea
It is not an unusually nice beach per se- visually quite similar as south OC beaches and north SanDiego beaches. The difference is no people. No trash. No noise. I have walked hours at the Ranch and it is sublime- add the general public and you'll have Blacks Beach 2. The boat story was disingenuous. Surfers have boated in for decades. The black top two lane road traversing the property entering from the south is not up to traffic and has a 25MPH speed limit. The beaches have no facilities. No parking. No restrooms, lifeguard stations, or lifeguards. No medical support. It is completely unsuitable to be opened to the public and it would require millions of dollars in infrastructure upgrades to become viable. For the number of people who would be willing to drive the distance it is certainly not a best use case for those resources. Unlike PCH in Malibu or Coast Rode in Santa Cruz there is no existing public road thru the ranch to just add an access path down to the sand. It is entirely private. The cost of a new up to current standards transportation corridor connecting the town of Hollister could take years and cost a billion dollars. Sometimes the Surfrider activists need to find reasonable windmills to battle instead of wanting what they want like children.
OH SHUT UP
Okey dokey boomer, but that still doesn't change the fact that it isn't your beach and you don't have the right to bar public access to it.
its "unfair"
wah wah wah
maybe the beach is so nice because the riff raff doesn't know about it
You don't own the land you cannot use it
follow the law and intelligence access to all ocean is citizens' rights , not right to illegals, ten thousand kid die each year in car accident dont talk about people dying when America fail to make cars safer
Keep it closed. Agreed. Otherwise it will become garbage place like most beach.
@@ArtoriasTheRock The thing is it is not their beach. Imagine a situation where someone manages to buy all the roads to your house. And say you can have access via air only.
@@ArtoriasTheRock there is public access... just gotta boat. And no I don't have access their either.
@@ac0rpbg But there is access by boat.. And no I don't have access to the ranch either and im not whining.
@@haydengarfield_ yeah cause it's so easy to get a boat
People have the right to pollute and destroy whatever they want... basically
I think it is the millionaire class who pollute the environment to get wealthy. Ordinary people have very small carbon footprints 👣
Whether the land owners are rich or not the problem is immature people who don't care about preserving California. The #1 thing California is suppose to be BIG on! They know those "surfers" will trash that beach as they have trashed all the others! And you know it's going to happened! Home owners should not have to their home and property be trashed by inconsiderate fools who don't care and never will!
"I think it's unfair, and there are alot of human beings who should have the right to use it". Cry me a river dude. If you really want to get in there to experience, you can figure out a way...
Maybe if they paid for an access to be built.
Tho keeping this area the way it is I totally get it; BUT! Stoping any human from enjoying the ocean and not allowing them in is well that's criminal and I would have to say the less of the two evils is to let em in. Been surfing for 48 years non stop though i've never surfed The Ranch (always wanted to) stoping people from accessing the ocean is bs. At least let them walk along the high tide line or a designated trail. Either way man has destroyed CA especially the beaches, too much to list on that one. Build build build $ $ $ Next they'll build houses and ranches in front Yosemite on both sides and say you can't go in.
Fake drama, get real ,tell the truth not your imagination.
Funny
Finally a place in CA without crackheads and heroine addicts. What could go wrong by granting access to all CA people?
Oh shut up
The state needs to make its own excess instead of someone's property
Their Private property goes all the way down to the high tide make. You have no right to use it.
Good keep beaches more protected
Public access already exists! Keep the gates closed!
can i walk there from Jamal? noo…
Waaaaaaaah.
If you want to give easy access, buy one of the properties at its current value to provide access. Rip the home down and put in a parking lot and public restrooms.
But don't complain that people bought their dream plot of land and built their homes and don't want you on their property.,
been a universal place between land(vegetation) and sea (water) beach is of sand, sand is underwater, as is around the WORLD.
Just as there no parking/no standing for cars by the roadway,
thus beach is of land and sea, public should be able to TRANSIT but may NOT stay or lay on "property"