Definitely. And if you permit me, please. Slavery.......sex slavery. Sexually tortured and harraz. Their father was on both their backs. His father a pedophilian and a psicopath as well. And the mother was the same as the father. A psicopath knows his victim will suicide sooner or later. Too much unbearable situation to resist! But sometimes the victim knows he can't escape or find any option. The psicopath is well known as a nice carismatic and respectful person. So the victim has no credibility. A specialised on psicopaths psiquiatrist, must be present or be part of the jury and make every member of the jury aware of all the sinister and unconceibable acts a psicopath can do. The jury at the time of the trial must have realized the boys were sexual slaves and victims of a never ending physical, emotional, mental and psicologycal suffering. One only rape is sufficient for a girl or boy to lose their mind. Life is not the same anymore. See former students, now 50 year old adults were abused in their elementary schools. See how they still cannot live in peace, never. If I were a member if the jury, right now I would ask the Menendez brothers for a pardon. With all respect.
@@aalia599 its also proof that he was really abused cuz survivors of it have been deeply brainwashed and they had mixed confused feelings about it for a long time and mixed feelings toward the abuser as well. Sometimes takes people a lifetime to say the word Rape.
American Justice system didnt care if the kids were victims of a monster. They murdered their parents so they would go to jail for life as punishment. It's just so wrong.
It's pure evil. It's only for the criminals. The true ones. Not the victims. The children the mothers. The abused of this world. Did u know that they only consider it self defense if he killed his dad during the rape? Not after. Thats a demented world.
@ Yes, I know he would not a lot for the sexual abuse to be presented in the second trial…I mean really!!! It sounds to me that he was probably corrupt! I lost my only grandchild to corruption of a judge!!! I look straight at him and told him he was going to lose that robe!!! I was fighting for my grandson’s life and my daughter’s too! My story is long…
I don't understand it either.. I'm only grateful they were spared back then and now, they've lived long enough to see a big shift in perspectives that will allow them to be set free
The biggest debate at the beginning of the trial was is a man able to be raped the prosecution tried to say only women can be raped. That it takes a vagaina to be raped.
@@ps6474 yeah, Judge Weisberg is kosher nostra, you can tell his sexual perversion is watching them suffer, he was a horrible judge, he acquitted some of the cops that beat Rodney King too, can't imagine how many people suffered because of him. Dershowitz was on the evening news slandering them too, the US really needs to run the kosher nostra out of the country.
I don't think you understand why they have to say that. In court, or with lawyers, they cannot use the word rape because by the law rape is an accusation. They can't call something "rape" even if it is unless they prove with evidence that the rape took place and that it was forced. It has to match the legal definition of rape. If she would have said "your father raped you" instead of "your father had sex with you" the other attorney would be able to object because it would be assuming that it was rape, even if the witness said it was rape and the facts showed rape. She can't call their father a rapist because you would be accusing someone of a crime without them defending themselves or giving them a chance to respond to any allegation. It's the same thing as murder, for example. They can't say "when the suspect was murdered" in a trial before murder charges were brought and proved. They gave to say "when the suspect died". That's why they have to say "sex" and not "rape".
@@UncleIrohsthat's not why they don't say it. In court, or with lawyers, they cannot use the word rape because by the law rape is an accusation. They can't call something "rape" even if it is unless they prove with evidence that the rape took place and that it was forced. It has to match the legal definition of rape. If she would have said "your father raped you" instead of "your father had sex with you" the other attorney would be able to object because it would be assuming that it was rape, even if the witness said it was rape and the facts showed rape. She can't call their father a rapist because you would be accusing someone of a crime without them defending themselves or giving them a chance to respond to any allegation. It's the same thing as murder, for example. They can't say "when the suspect was murdered" in a trial before murder charges were brought and proved. They gave to say "when the suspect died". That's why they have to say "sex" and not "rape".
So Erik's father did in fact threaten to kill Erik, with this and so much more I've been learning about this case, I'm not surprised these two guys snapped. The father was the epitome of true and pure evil. Hearing all this, I just have no more words, no words.
Their mum abused his brother too. I don't know about him but she tried to "seduce" the other brother and made him touching her when he was already a kid.
@@ps6474 💯 the brothers also said that their father forced them to never show their emotions so I think it's actually normal for somebody explode when they hold in everything especially when their lives are being threatened. Anybody could react that way with those circumstances
@@dannafreespirit6831 Exactly, good post. Regardless it's so sad what these boys went through in so many ways, the brain reacts to long term trauma even if that individual doesn't truly want to do what they did. Those parents were horrible terrible humans, if you can even call them human.
If you do not know about the job in law in general, do not make comments on it. She is legally not allowed to use that word in court....y'all are annoying
Exactly. It was rape and had nothing to do with consensual sex. It's like people use the word sex to make them feel better about turning a blind eye or minimizing the abuse and torture.
Not only people, but also in front of a country's television, and not only did they not believe them, but they also made fun of them, as disgusting as they were treated.
Me too. It's hard to listen to all of this but at the same time I want to hear their story so I make myself listen. I feel sick to my stomach, these poor boys went through absolute hell.
It’s a clear signs of embarrassment. And he is very consistent with the story every time they ask the questions in different ways. I am Not a body language expert but his expressions speak by themselves
People come the stupid statement of why they didn't leave or why they never said anything. Yes, they told some family members but nobody helped them. This boy was so embarrassed of himself thinking that maybe it was his fault. He had to grow up to finally understand what the father and mother were doing to him. Poor guy. He thought maybe the mother didn't know and to his surprise, she did. How sad can that be. I can just imagine. I feel so bad for them.
She abused the older brother too. She tried to "seduce" him and made him touch her. I don't know why so few people don't know about it. She was a pedo too.
psychology understand abuse and trauma a lot more now, and things like Erik's disassociation are obvious and something that most people think can't easily be faked, let alone it wasn't even understood 30 yrs ago, its like you blank out when discussing trauma, why he keeps needing things repeated.
@@Gee-xb7rt Yes! His description of the dissociation is important part of evidence. In his testimony of ’the first time’ he basically described dissociation in his own words: ”I died off, I left myself, pretended it wasn’t happening, went away in my mind”. If he was faking it, how did he give perfect description of dissociation when it was barely understood back then. Unless he had first-hand experience.
@@YugeYun I had someone just straight up call out my cptsd about 20 yrs ago, he is a psychologist that works with abused children, and probably the only people that understood that. The Bush Jr wars gave people, even professionals, a better understanding of trauma. ACA broadened healthcare to include mental healthcare.
PSA: She is using the word “sex” because it is neutral. If she had used the word “rape,” she would have gotten endless objections from prosecution and it could have severely damaged defense’s case. Yes, it’s stupid that she wasn’t able to say “rape,” but it’s not her fault. Leslie Abramson is a fantastic lawyer.
Exactly. She's legally not allowed to even call it rape, because in court rape is an accusation. Same as like you can't call it murder when you're talking about the victim's death during a murder trial. They would have to say when the victim died, not when the victim was murdered.
@@ohdwightyeah but the only reason they didn't use that word is in court, or with lawyers, they cannot use the word rape because by the law rape is an accusation. They can't call something "rape" even if it is unless they prove with evidence that the rape took place and that it was forced. It has to match the legal definition of rape. If she would have said "your father raped you" instead of "your father had sex with you" the other attorney would be able to object because it would be assuming that it was rape, even if the witness said it was rape and the facts showed rape. She can't call their father a rapist because you would be accusing someone of a crime without them defending themselves or giving them a chance to respond to any allegation. It's the same thing as murder, for example. They can't say "when the suspect was murdered" in a trial before murder charges were brought and proved. They gave to say "when the suspect died". That's why they have to say "sex" and not "rape".
So glad you're posting these!🙏 There are so many ignorant fools still defending their pedo parents and saying the brothers did it for the money and deserve to stay in prison. They haven't even seen the trial so they think there's no evidence of abuse :(
I always believed them. At the time nobody could fathom any parent abusing their kids . Since this happened , many other horrific incidents of abuse have happened. It’s time to free the brothers. 35 years is long enough.
I've heard enough and these men been through ENOUGH!! So sicking to hear all this and to still be in prison til this day, hurts my soul! It's time for them get out PLZ!!! #freemenendezbrothers
I don't think you understand why they have to say that. In court, or with lawyers, they cannot use the word rape because by the law rape is an accusation. They can't call something "rape" even if it is unless they prove with evidence that the rape took place and that it was forced. It has to match the legal definition of rape. If she would have said "your father raped you" instead of "your father had sex with you" the other attorney would be able to object because it would be assuming that it was rape, even if the witness said it was rape and the facts showed rape. She can't call their father a rapist because you would be accusing someone of a crime without them defending themselves or giving them a chance to respond to any allegation. It's the same thing as murder, for example. They can't say "when the suspect was murdered" in a trial before murder charges were brought and proved. They gave to say "when the suspect died". That's why they have to say "sex" and not "rape".
@@yellowmoon4564yes they would. They do. They have to. In court, or with lawyers, they cannot use the word rape because by the law rape is an accusation. They can't call something "rape" even if it is unless they prove with evidence that the rape took place and that it was forced. It has to match the legal definition of rape. If she would have said "your father raped you" instead of "your father had sex with you" the other attorney would be able to object because it would be assuming that it was rape, even if the witness said it was rape and the facts showed rape. She can't call their father a rapist because you would be accusing someone of a crime without them defending themselves or giving them a chance to respond to any allegation. It's the same thing as murder, for example. They can't say "when the suspect was murdered" in a trial before murder charges were brought and proved. They gave to say "when the suspect died". That's why they have to say "sex" and not "rape".
It's possible. Back then men were ignored of being sexually abused. Bc they thought that men can fight & stop this abuse from happening. Bc men are physically stronger then women are. But sometimes men can't fight off this abuse. Thats what was ignored grossly.
I think that he went through a lot and with all these questions make his trauma bigger. Hel really needs a long therapy because of the sexual abuse he had for many years
He actually did have therapy for almost all of his prison life bcz he was already mentally emotionally not ok before the murder and after the murder and when he got arrested he was not doing ok at all he was depressed, having panic attacks, nightmares, trouble sleeping, always anxious, hysterical and always crying, shaking, trembling and was on verge psychotic break, that they had to give him high doses of anti depression, anxiety and panic attack medicine and he was on those medication for the whole trial and even after the trial bcz i remember he said in Barbara Walter's interview that he had six years of intense therapy, that's why his demeanor in that interview was very easy and he looks happy and it's like he was smiling unknowingly and it seems like he was on some drugs(medicine). And I feel like his medication and therapy were the reason for him not showing much emotion in the trial or maybe he was dissociating a lot, which he clearly did in the trial, which was also proven by doctors, psychologists that abuse victims do that a lot. And it would also have been that he just didn't want to remember the pain and trauma and dwell in it longer, that it would be painful and so hard for him to give the answers, so maybe that's why he was just giving those answers with more matter of facts than showing so much emotions bcz obviously if he thinks about that a lot it would be so painful for him and he didn't want that to feel the pain, trauma, humiliation, discomfort again and again bcz obviously he would have told these things maybe two time once to the prison psychologist in which he was crying so much that at times he just became hysterical and his whole body just tremble and shake like he was having panic and anxiety attacks and then he told to his attorney so after telling it many times I feel like he was kind of feeling like so light it's like something so heavy lifted from his chest and he was kind of feeling ok to tell his most his most traumatic experience to the world. But also he did show discomfort and pain, trauma he went through in that trial but it was less visible and he was dissociating a lot so that makes sense. All those his symptoms and behaviours were told by the prison psychologist who was trying to treat him and also trying to know the truth of why he did, what he did. If you want to know the whole thing then see dr vicary's testimony.
It's everyone. Not just one person. If u heard this testimony. How could u say first degree murder? I woulda said manslaughter. Giving that choice to say manslaughter. But Idk how much the jurors heard of the 2nd trial.
The revictimization this poor boy had to go through for the judge to declare he was lying and his monster of a father wasn’t a sick bastard… You can see how hard it is to remember and answer to the questioning…
It’s absolutely horrible what this earth angel had to go through, to go through the horrible emotional and physical abuse, and then relive it in front of the whole world, word for word, thought to thought. It takes tremendous strength.
Respectfully, I know that their lawyer is trying to support their case with these questions but some are abrasive. She could have reframed “sex” as “rape” (the actual case), and explored more on the trauma that both brothers went through. At times the questioning feels condescending. Particularly the “did you try to stop him?” ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!!!
She had to do it that way, so their testimony would be more explicit and it would be easier for people to understand. It's terrible, but had to been done that way.
She's trying to show that they couldn't stop their father's abuse. Which then means that they killed their parents in self defense. To rid their abuse of them forever. They were justified in killing their parents. They had no choice. Their parents wouldn't let them go. If, they didn't kill them.
34 years old and just hearing about this for the first time in 2024. Why the fuck were these two sent to prison??? The more I learn about this case, the angrier it makes me!
the fact that that monsters last word before he got shot was "no". Like he was acting like he didnt threat his son with a knife and threatened to kill him before anyway!
The father was a monster! Apparently he was the only boy in a family of girls and was spoiled and coddled by his mother. This is how parents turn their own kids into sociopathic beasts.
@@judithwilliams3147example: my female legal caregiver was a very violent and sadistic physical and emotional abuser. Her son and I were her only victims in 15yrs and her husband (who s'molested me for 8yrs, don't know if he did that to his son, too) knew it, witnessed it countless times. NO ONE else saw her ever lash out. She played her role perfectly in any public setting, she was calm as a stone block. Only once had some neighbours called the police "because we were loud again". The brother I had and I immediately switched to our "everything's fine face". The detective went off and the abuse continued for many years more. I wouldn't look for answers in images of people....
@@Ichi-San-1501 oh yes. I know . My father. Pillar of the community. But not with us. Anyway. It's not about images. I just wanted a backgrounds. I guess. Because as you say. Abusers aren't Abusers 24./7. I got an overview. I guess I was more interested in kitty . But I diont want to foul my mind to much. Been looking at some true crime. I made me sick. I hope you're healing.
@@judithwilliams3147 Sorry I misinterpreted (I thought you were saying something rather attacking like "How would you know José was a brute, did you know him?"),now re-reading I don't understand why I got it wrong. Oh yes, same here, my adopters were pillars... I wish to you that you are safe now; and healing what can heal. Have a good sunday.
@@Ichi-San-1501 thank you. . I have children and a family that love me. I think the powers that be are going to release the boys. And soon. I'm in New Zealand and it's been on our news. Think they're just trying to work out how to do it. I saw something on RUclips as well. Forgotten it. But another trial. they Dohat.
😢 Poor of him… So rich but so miserable, abused by a brutal father, scared of him and hating himself because of those horrible things his dad did to him 😢
Cannot believe they even had a doubt this was sexual abuse. I watched the trial the first and at the time never doubted they were sexually abused. Incredible they are still in jail
After all these horrible experiences you can never say the brothers did the wrong thing. The judge and the prosecution layer surely are not clean，for any reason the public’s don’t know ！ The boys need to be set free！
What a terrible interrogation. Wtf is that. Why not to say in detail what happened. Why? Because its too gross for other people to hear it. How about this happening to a 6...8...10...15...17 year old hundreds times. He has endured this as long as he can remember. It might be even first memory he can recall is his father abusing him. Just a horror, hell on earth.
Why was it all he thought about?!!!!!!!!! ESCAPE FROM ABUSE WAS WHAT HE WANTED AND NEEDED😭🙏🏼God save and heal these brothers and give them another chance!
He was already threatened with a knife I think its true that they are really fearful with their lives base on his body language he is telling d truth i feel For eric❤
It made me feel like they were telling the truth... besides, theres so much evidence leading to them telling the truth. You dont have to talk about the show.
If you haven’t been following or aware of the case, you should probably not just let a tv series inform you of the Menendez brothers.the parents were the monsters.
Why is it so hard for the system to admit that they got all wrong limiting the abuse in the second trial.release them.set them free.there is no reason to to go through the process.
I keep watching clips of these brothers and it just breaks my heart every time and I start to cry. I haven’t been able to take this out of my mind. How horrible for these brothers. Also, who the hell wants to see this type of movie?! It’s terrible to have to hear what they went through and to put actors playing those parts, its just not right at all. I hope Lyle & Erik get out soon. It baffles me how other people that are pedophiles get out of jail and these brothers were being molested every damn day by both parents and still are in jail. They paid for killing the parents, don’t make them suffer any more! This world is never fair with those who suffer at the hands of beasts. I really pray they don’t have to endure more pain and that they are set free
You’re right; knowing all of these abuse details makes the whole thing the opposite of anything approaching entertainment. Embellishing the story for a Netflix show is depraved.
I remember at the time, these boys condemned by public. Times have sure change. I personally always believed they were abused. Wealthy doesn’t make you a good parent. There always secret s behind closed doors, rich or poor.
I wonder why it took society so long to acknowledge abuse. Reminds me of alex King's trial..very bizarre one where 2 brothers killed their father and alex was being abused by a pdf file neighbor who was involved in it and aided the boys but during the trial they kept calling alex and the pdf file LOVERS...as in a relationship...since kids can't consent its weird to see that in a court of LAW and he is in cuffs on the stand..a 12 year old boy
it's hard to make up a story if you're lying but these brothers have an answer no matter what you ask about the abuse and you'll feel it's true because of the details and emotions that they show.
it’s also somewhat recently come out that a man who was a member of a band when he was a kid said he was drugged and raped by jose menendez and another executive producer or something like that and said that the music industry tycoon was drugging and raping lots of children and i’m pretty sure a lot of us know how sketchy those music industries can be i mean they were powerful people and i think there was a lot more to jose menendez, and erik and lyle’s cousins said they told them they had been being touched by their father when they were kids and why would they lie about that for them yeah they are family but i mean come on if you really think about it? and the other family members saying they remember eric had to have lemon in his food all the time, there are some parts of the story and certain things that kinda made me question them though like in some points of the court case erik would actually laugh or smile after just talking about what happened with him and his father and idk it’s just very odd like there’s a lot that makes me believe the abuse and all that nasty horrible stuff is true or at least true to a point but then it’s also like idk cause some things are just kinda odd about it but if they really were abused like that since they were like 6 and all the other stuff that’s just something that i don’t think you really could understand unless you went through it yourself, and how erik said the netflix show was inaccurate but i mean did or can be even watch it i mean maybe his wife did or maybe he could have seen it somehow but idk, there is a documentary coming out october 7th on netflix maybe that’ll have more answers but yeah the whole thing is just so crazy and horrifying
Eric's odd affect that was apparent at times----- could possibly represent an alternative personality in control of Eric at that moment. The trauma he endured could certainly cause Dissociative Identity Disorder, previously known as Multiple Personality Disorder. As a retired physician who specialized in Psychiatry , I have dealt with these kind of problems.
Sometimes victims smile or laugh. Bc its their way to get through the nasty. So maybe that's why he smiled or laughed at some point. Laughing spells are real too. Trauma can make u act really weird.
This is so, awful. Lord, Dear God Shame on the Court. Jose Menendez was the MONSTER and we all know, it!!!! Let these brothers out, before you all go to your own helll!!! V
Agreed, this is why women are reluctant to come forward, because they are put on trial and blamed for what the assailant did. Classic victim blaming! Disgusting that women have to endure this b.s. and so can you just get a real grip of how it would be for a man to Report, way more difficult because society sympathetic with women and heartless towards a man's suffering. Erik keeps referring to it as sex himself, but that's because that's the language that was forced upon him. His defense attorney should have known better and Helped Him and the Court by property identifying is as Rape, as Molestation! The legal system let them down. Now the legal system can Step Up and do the Right thing---Release Them from Prison.
She has to. So he can handle how the prosecutor will abuse them next. If she didnt prepare him mentally. He may not have gotton through this court here.
The NBC movie from the 90's only had his dad slap him when he said 'no'. That's a pretty dramatic part to leave out about this knife. You can see the clip at the end of this video(I know most of you didn't make it that far).
I’m looking at all the trials and that because when I was a few years older than them and I heard about it and everybody said they did it for the money but when you look into the case, you can see it wasn’t they didn’t kill the parents for the money Just looking at the trial you can see why they did it and I don’t blame them 🙏🏽🙏🏽🌹
Los hermanos Menéndez han sufrido desde que llegaron a este mundo, con unos padres que en realidad eran MONSTRUOS, desalmados, violentos, abusivos, pedófilos. El hecho de que el padre fuera un hombre con dinero, no significó nada en sus vidas, pues no les dio lo más importante que todo hijo necesita : amor, comprensión, respeto, guías y ambiente familiar adecuado. La Fiscalía y el juez Stanley, fallaron en contra de estos chicos, revictimizaton a las verdaderas víctimas que fueron Erick and Lyle. La sociedad y la justicia norteamericana, le quedan debiendo a estos muchachos. LIBERTAD PARA ELLOS, SIN CONDICIONES, ellos actuaron en defensa propia y si eso no es entendido de una vez por todas, quedará un terrible estigma para la justicia norteamericana que se jacta de ser justa, técnica y profesional. ¡LIBERTAD PARA LOS HERMANOS MENÉNDEZ! APÓYENLOS A TRANSITAR EL RESTO DE SUS VIDAS CON AYUDA PROFESIONAL, EMPATÍA, CARIÑO, SIN CARGAR CADENAS, GRILLETES. LIBERTAD COMPLETA, NADA DE CONDICIONAL.
What went on during this trial that resulted in the jury not believing them? Everything Erik describes is told without hesitation or needless embellishment. It seems to be a pure distillation of what occurred. The justice system completely failed these young men.
Who is asking and referring to it as sex? This woman is disgustingly re traumatizing him and using wrong terminology. Do better! Because they were men society was absolutely indifferent!
They were not, this is only one part of the trial, she was continuing with what he had already told her, so it was not benefiting them at all because in fact that judge was a biased bastard.
The prosecution and defense should have been able to interview, in private, every young man that Jose had come into contact with. If any of them corroborated this kind of abuse, then judge should have let the bros go to a psychiatric unit for awhile to heal.
Yea they didn't want them boys free. So they never do anything that helps the defense win their case. It's all about the win for their pockets. Not the win of the truth.
The fact that everyone who knew him considered him a nasty dude is telling enough. Bet they could find many more instances of abuse of any kind in his past. It didn’t start with his sons. He was the kind to buy a little boy for every day of the week.😒
It’s not sex, its rape, molestation, non consensual, violation, abuse
Definitely. And if you permit me, please. Slavery.......sex slavery. Sexually tortured and harraz. Their father was on both their backs. His father a pedophilian and a psicopath as well. And the mother was the same as the father. A psicopath knows his victim will suicide sooner or later. Too much unbearable situation to resist! But sometimes the victim knows he can't escape or find any option. The psicopath is well known as a nice carismatic and respectful person. So the victim has no credibility. A specialised on psicopaths psiquiatrist, must be present or be part of the jury and make every member of the jury aware of all the sinister and unconceibable acts a psicopath can do. The jury at the time of the trial must have realized the boys were sexual slaves and victims of a never ending physical, emotional, mental and psicologycal suffering.
One only rape is sufficient for a girl or boy to lose their mind. Life is not the same anymore. See former students, now 50 year old adults were abused in their elementary schools. See how they still cannot live in peace, never. If I were a member if the jury, right now I would ask the Menendez brothers for a pardon. With all respect.
The word rape was a trigger word for Erik so he called it “sex” instead
@@aalia599 its also proof that he was really abused cuz survivors of it have been deeply brainwashed and they had mixed confused feelings about it for a long time and mixed feelings toward the abuser as well. Sometimes takes people a lifetime to say the word Rape.
Agreed
@kimmyfreak200 you're right. They also will say sorry for things not their fault. It's a trauma response.
The judge should go to hell for not allowing a fair trial the second time
Reckon he did already.
word
And for allowing the court to call it 'sex'
SHAME ON JUDGE PROSCITER AG ALL OF THEM. SHAME ON U ALL ...
Agreed
They should have NEVER been sent to prison!!! They were child victims!!! What the hell is wrong with this world?!?
American Justice system didnt care if the kids were victims of a monster. They murdered their parents so they would go to jail for life as punishment. It's just so wrong.
It's pure evil. It's only for the criminals. The true ones. Not the victims. The children the mothers. The abused of this world.
Did u know that they only consider it self defense if he killed his dad during the rape? Not after. Thats a demented world.
It was the judged fault he was biased
@ Yes, I know he would not a lot for the sexual abuse to be presented in the second trial…I mean really!!! It sounds to me that he was probably corrupt! I lost my only grandchild to corruption of a judge!!! I look straight at him and told him he was going to lose that robe!!! I was fighting for my grandson’s life and my daughter’s too! My story is long…
I don't understand it either.. I'm only grateful they were spared back then and now, they've lived long enough to see a big shift in perspectives that will allow them to be set free
In trial they keep saying "Sex with your father". Wtf? Its rape, molested, not sex with
The biggest debate at the beginning of the trial was is a man able to be raped the prosecution tried to say only women can be raped. That it takes a vagaina to be raped.
language has become much more specific about sex crimes since then.
@@Gee-xb7rtplus it triggered Erik big time
@Euyoo...Apparently the judge didn't allow the word to be used and he didn't allow any of this sexual abuse be used in Erik and Lyle's second trial.
@@ps6474 yeah, Judge Weisberg is kosher nostra, you can tell his sexual perversion is watching them suffer, he was a horrible judge, he acquitted some of the cops that beat Rodney King too, can't imagine how many people suffered because of him. Dershowitz was on the evening news slandering them too, the US really needs to run the kosher nostra out of the country.
Stop calling it sex !!! It was rape 😢
The r word triggered Erik, I believe.
It sounds like victim blaming.
@@nancyvega1247you cant say the word rape in court in the possibility it triggers them.
I don't think you understand why they have to say that. In court, or with lawyers, they cannot use the word rape because by the law rape is an accusation. They can't call something "rape" even if it is unless they prove with evidence that the rape took place and that it was forced. It has to match the legal definition of rape. If she would have said "your father raped you" instead of "your father had sex with you" the other attorney would be able to object because it would be assuming that it was rape, even if the witness said it was rape and the facts showed rape. She can't call their father a rapist because you would be accusing someone of a crime without them defending themselves or giving them a chance to respond to any allegation.
It's the same thing as murder, for example. They can't say "when the suspect was murdered" in a trial before murder charges were brought and proved. They gave to say "when the suspect died". That's why they have to say "sex" and not "rape".
@@UncleIrohsthat's not why they don't say it.
In court, or with lawyers, they cannot use the word rape because by the law rape is an accusation. They can't call something "rape" even if it is unless they prove with evidence that the rape took place and that it was forced. It has to match the legal definition of rape. If she would have said "your father raped you" instead of "your father had sex with you" the other attorney would be able to object because it would be assuming that it was rape, even if the witness said it was rape and the facts showed rape. She can't call their father a rapist because you would be accusing someone of a crime without them defending themselves or giving them a chance to respond to any allegation.
It's the same thing as murder, for example. They can't say "when the suspect was murdered" in a trial before murder charges were brought and proved. They gave to say "when the suspect died". That's why they have to say "sex" and not "rape".
The fact that he was literally 17 & 18 and his father was doing that is fucking disgusting. I feel so bad for Erik.
He did it to them when they were like 6-7 years old too
Me too. You can just feel his pain when he speaks about it 😢
That jose stunted Eric's brain growth. U can tell.
He did that for literally as long as he could remember. That's even worse. I can't imagine
@@bmbly9029 and Lyle, and the Menudo boys and allegedly Ricky Martin (possibly)…. A darling chap that Jose Menendez….😳😳😳
So Erik's father did in fact threaten to kill Erik, with this and so much more I've been learning about this case, I'm not surprised these two guys snapped. The father was the epitome of true and pure evil. Hearing all this, I just have no more words, no words.
Their mum abused his brother too. I don't know about him but she tried to "seduce" the other brother and made him touching her when he was already a kid.
@@ps6474 💯 the brothers also said that their father forced them to never show their emotions so I think it's actually normal for somebody explode when they hold in everything especially when their lives are being threatened. Anybody could react that way with those circumstances
@@dannafreespirit6831 Exactly, good post. Regardless it's so sad what these boys went through in so many ways, the brain reacts to long term trauma even if that individual doesn't truly want to do what they did. Those parents were horrible terrible humans, if you can even call them human.
I’m in tears this is terrible 😢then to have to relive it. Heaven help us all.
@@tayshaperkins5031 Yes, it must have been very difficult to have to relive and share all the horrible SA to the public.
As a parent; I just cannot fathom this. My heart hurts so much for these men.
It hurts me when he said "I hated it" x3 times since it indicates how much horrible agony he had been through😢😣
It grosses me out to no end that this ABUSE in the form of RAPE is referred to as “SEX”!
it’s because the word rape was a trigger for erik
If you do not know about the job in law in general, do not make comments on it. She is legally not allowed to use that word in court....y'all are annoying
Exactly. It was rape and had nothing to do with consensual sex. It's like people use the word sex to make them feel better about turning a blind eye or minimizing the abuse and torture.
@@johynsmith read the comment above…
Agreed
I can’t imagine which is worse: going through this torture in private, or having to discuss the details in front of a room full of strangers?!
Not only people, but also in front of a country's television, and not only did they not believe them, but they also made fun of them, as disgusting as they were treated.
Some even laughed after his testimony.
IF THERE 2AS ANY DECENCY IT WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ON TV OR ANY PLACE ELSE.
He looks so annoyed and sad. The questions are so insensitive
@@miamoser2389that is so heartless 😢
These questions make me want to throw up.....this poor kid😪
Me too. It's hard to listen to all of this but at the same time I want to hear their story so I make myself listen. I feel sick to my stomach, these poor boys went through absolute hell.
The fact that he keeps putting his head down tells me he is being completely HONEST😢
It’s a clear signs of embarrassment. And he is very consistent with the story every time they ask the questions in different ways. I am Not a body language expert but his expressions speak by themselves
Yesss that part!!! Hurts my soul!
@@ammylee9602 YES. Some DEEP SHAME!! Those boys never had a chance!!!
Exactly. The questions are difficult as he recalls the awful and horrific experiences.
And the eye blocking... He is remembering things and "doesn't want to look at them" or he is "blocking" them.
People come the stupid statement of why they didn't leave or why they never said anything. Yes, they told some family members but nobody helped them. This boy was so embarrassed of himself thinking that maybe it was his fault. He had to grow up to finally understand what the father and mother were doing to him. Poor guy. He thought maybe the mother didn't know and to his surprise, she did. How sad can that be. I can just imagine. I feel so bad for them.
She abused the older brother too. She tried to "seduce" him and made him touch her. I don't know why so few people don't know about it. She was a pedo too.
I know from being physically abused by an ex husband that sometimes I would get it worse if I tried to leave.
He show no classic signs of lies. He is telling the truth.
psychology understand abuse and trauma a lot more now, and things like Erik's disassociation are obvious and something that most people think can't easily be faked, let alone it wasn't even understood 30 yrs ago, its like you blank out when discussing trauma, why he keeps needing things repeated.
@@Gee-xb7rt Yes! His description of the dissociation is important part of evidence. In his testimony of ’the first time’ he basically described dissociation in his own words: ”I died off, I left myself, pretended it wasn’t happening, went away in my mind”. If he was faking it, how did he give perfect description of dissociation when it was barely understood back then. Unless he had first-hand experience.
@@YugeYun I had someone just straight up call out my cptsd about 20 yrs ago, he is a psychologist that works with abused children, and probably the only people that understood that. The Bush Jr wars gave people, even professionals, a better understanding of trauma. ACA broadened healthcare to include mental healthcare.
The cousin testified that Eric confided in him. The father also raped another boy that wasn’t related.
the way his face falls every time he realizes he'll have to talk about his rape & abuse
PSA: She is using the word “sex” because it is neutral. If she had used the word “rape,” she would have gotten endless objections from prosecution and it could have severely damaged defense’s case.
Yes, it’s stupid that she wasn’t able to say “rape,” but it’s not her fault. Leslie Abramson is a fantastic lawyer.
yeah it was stupidity ; sex is supposedly consensual ; that's why Rape is called rape ; it's not consensual
Why would rape be objected to ? Rape is forcing intercourse against another will. That's what Jose did to these boys. Raped them.
Exactly. She's legally not allowed to even call it rape, because in court rape is an accusation. Same as like you can't call it murder when you're talking about the victim's death during a murder trial. They would have to say when the victim died, not when the victim was murdered.
@@ohdwightyeah but the only reason they didn't use that word is in court, or with lawyers, they cannot use the word rape because by the law rape is an accusation. They can't call something "rape" even if it is unless they prove with evidence that the rape took place and that it was forced. It has to match the legal definition of rape. If she would have said "your father raped you" instead of "your father had sex with you" the other attorney would be able to object because it would be assuming that it was rape, even if the witness said it was rape and the facts showed rape. She can't call their father a rapist because you would be accusing someone of a crime without them defending themselves or giving them a chance to respond to any allegation.
It's the same thing as murder, for example. They can't say "when the suspect was murdered" in a trial before murder charges were brought and proved. They gave to say "when the suspect died". That's why they have to say "sex" and not "rape".
Justice for the menendez Brothers. They suffered a lot already
I agree
EXCELLENT JOB with these videos!!!! Everything you need to know in small doses with headings!!
These guys should be let out of jail!!! Their father was a monster!!!
And their Mother too she knew all of this abuse and did nothing
So glad you're posting these!🙏 There are so many ignorant fools still defending their pedo parents and saying the brothers did it for the money and deserve to stay in prison. They haven't even seen the trial so they think there's no evidence of abuse :(
you couldn't have said it better. ❤
Totally agree
Free the Menéndez brothers!! Y’all can have Gyptard back
People shouldn't throw stones. They don't know.
I always believed them. At the time nobody could fathom any parent abusing their kids . Since this happened , many other horrific incidents of abuse have happened.
It’s time to free the brothers. 35 years is long enough.
so glad these videos are out there on youtube for people to understand their story! thank you
These questions are so brutal
Exactly "and how did you feel about that experience afterwards " really 🤦♀️
I've heard enough and these men been through ENOUGH!! So sicking to hear all this and to still be in prison til this day, hurts my soul! It's time for them get out PLZ!!! #freemenendezbrothers
@@MeadeFatLoss And I said they should.
Absolutely
The fact she keeps saying "sex with your father" like he chose to or enjoyed it is so infuriating I can barely stand to listen to this shit
yeah, they would never do this to a woman
They can’t say it in court . They’re not allowed too.
I don't think you understand why they have to say that. In court, or with lawyers, they cannot use the word rape because by the law rape is an accusation. They can't call something "rape" even if it is unless they prove with evidence that the rape took place and that it was forced. It has to match the legal definition of rape. If she would have said "your father raped you" instead of "your father had sex with you" the other attorney would be able to object because it would be assuming that it was rape, even if the witness said it was rape and the facts showed rape. She can't call their father a rapist because you would be accusing someone of a crime without them defending themselves or giving them a chance to respond to any allegation.
It's the same thing as murder, for example. They can't say "when the suspect was murdered" in a trial before murder charges were brought and proved. They gave to say "when the suspect died". That's why they have to say "sex" and not "rape".
@@yellowmoon4564yes they would. They do.
They have to. In court, or with lawyers, they cannot use the word rape because by the law rape is an accusation. They can't call something "rape" even if it is unless they prove with evidence that the rape took place and that it was forced. It has to match the legal definition of rape. If she would have said "your father raped you" instead of "your father had sex with you" the other attorney would be able to object because it would be assuming that it was rape, even if the witness said it was rape and the facts showed rape. She can't call their father a rapist because you would be accusing someone of a crime without them defending themselves or giving them a chance to respond to any allegation.
It's the same thing as murder, for example. They can't say "when the suspect was murdered" in a trial before murder charges were brought and proved. They gave to say "when the suspect died". That's why they have to say "sex" and not "rape".
This is sexism clear as day. If they were women they'd not be in jail
Totally!
It's possible. Back then men were ignored of being sexually abused. Bc they thought that men can fight & stop this abuse from happening. Bc men are physically stronger then women are. But sometimes men can't fight off this abuse. Thats what was ignored grossly.
Agree, it was rape! Not sex. These brothers should be released and at least they must have a new trial.
I think that he went through a lot and with all these questions make his trauma bigger. Hel really needs a long therapy because of the sexual abuse he had for many years
yes.❤
And the rest of their years in prison...
@@lacycardona7517sit down with your menopause ass
He actually did have therapy for almost all of his prison life bcz he was already mentally emotionally not ok before the murder and after the murder and when he got arrested he was not doing ok at all he was depressed, having panic attacks, nightmares, trouble sleeping, always anxious, hysterical and always crying, shaking, trembling and was on verge psychotic break, that they had to give him high doses of anti depression, anxiety and panic attack medicine and he was on those medication for the whole trial and even after the trial bcz i remember he said in Barbara Walter's interview that he had six years of intense therapy, that's why his demeanor in that interview was very easy and he looks happy and it's like he was smiling unknowingly and it seems like he was on some drugs(medicine). And I feel like his medication and therapy were the reason for him not showing much emotion in the trial or maybe he was dissociating a lot, which he clearly did in the trial, which was also proven by doctors, psychologists that abuse victims do that a lot. And it would also have been that he just didn't want to remember the pain and trauma and dwell in it longer, that it would be painful and so hard for him to give the answers, so maybe that's why he was just giving those answers with more matter of facts than showing so much emotions bcz obviously if he thinks about that a lot it would be so painful for him and he didn't want that to feel the pain, trauma, humiliation, discomfort again and again bcz obviously he would have told these things maybe two time once to the prison psychologist in which he was crying so much that at times he just became hysterical and his whole body just tremble and shake like he was having panic and anxiety attacks and then he told to his attorney so after telling it many times I feel like he was kind of feeling like so light it's like something so heavy lifted from his chest and he was kind of feeling ok to tell his most his most traumatic experience to the world. But also he did show discomfort and pain, trauma he went through in that trial but it was less visible and he was dissociating a lot so that makes sense. All those his symptoms and behaviours were told by the prison psychologist who was trying to treat him and also trying to know the truth of why he did, what he did. If you want to know the whole thing then see dr vicary's testimony.
I can't believe they ignored this. The mentality and culture back then was horrible
It's still this bad. It's just was more ignored back then. This world hasn't improved as a whole. It just got better for some people.
How do those jurors sleep at night?
That question should be asked of the judge and the entire office of the district attorney who was up for re-election.
Those juros should be thinking of how an awful person they are
Same way the Democrats do
Exactly.
It's everyone. Not just one person. If u heard this testimony. How could u say first degree murder? I woulda said manslaughter. Giving that choice to say manslaughter. But Idk how much the jurors heard of the 2nd trial.
The revictimization this poor boy had to go through for the judge to declare he was lying and his monster of a father wasn’t a sick bastard… You can see how hard it is to remember and answer to the questioning…
It’s absolutely horrible what this earth angel had to go through, to go through the horrible emotional and physical abuse, and then relive it in front of the whole world, word for word, thought to thought. It takes tremendous strength.
What do you think happens at trials when you gotta give a statement????
Trauma makes u forgot your memories. It causes brain damage.
Rewatching this. It wasn't sex. It was rape, molestation, sexual violation of two children by a monsterous pathetic excuse of a parent.
Respectfully, I know that their lawyer is trying to support their case with these questions but some are abrasive. She could have reframed “sex” as “rape” (the actual case), and explored more on the trauma that both brothers went through. At times the questioning feels condescending. Particularly the “did you try to stop him?” ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!!!
She had to do it that way, so their testimony would be more explicit and it would be easier for people to understand. It's terrible, but had to been done that way.
But if this was his lawyer, shouldn't she have termed it as abuse or rape -- and not sex, which implies consent?
100 percent agree
She's trying to show that they couldn't stop their father's abuse. Which then means that they killed their parents in self defense. To rid their abuse of them forever. They were justified in killing their parents. They had no choice. Their parents wouldn't let them go. If, they didn't kill them.
Please release them, so horrible what they went through
⚜ "Not tonight, dear. I have a headache." ...words you'd never expect a son to say to his dad.
34 years old and just hearing about this for the first time in 2024. Why the fuck were these two sent to prison??? The more I learn about this case, the angrier it makes me!
Me too
the fact that that monsters last word before he got shot was "no". Like he was acting like he didnt threat his son with a knife and threatened to kill him before anyway!
The brothers should be free? Do you agree or disagree?
Agree!!!
@@VoiceAndPianoByChristaFord me too!
Agreed 100%
Agree
absolutely agree 100% no question
it’s rape !! Erik’s face show that he’s hurting so deeply 😓😓😓
The father was a monster! Apparently he was the only boy in a family of girls and was spoiled and coddled by his mother. This is how parents turn their own kids into sociopathic beasts.
Pretty much.
The sister says jose was molested by their mom. Cycle of abuse...
His "Father" continually degraded ,brutalized and terrorized his sons ,especially Erik This judge should have his law license removed
100
He is not making this stuff up. Jose menendez was a brute. The brothers were doomed at birth
Did you know him. ? I'm curious about him. What about his wife.
@@judithwilliams3147example: my female legal caregiver was a very violent and sadistic physical and emotional abuser. Her son and I were her only victims in 15yrs and her husband (who s'molested me for 8yrs, don't know if he did that to his son, too) knew it, witnessed it countless times. NO ONE else saw her ever lash out. She played her role perfectly in any public setting, she was calm as a stone block.
Only once had some neighbours called the police "because we were loud again". The brother I had and I immediately switched to our "everything's fine face". The detective went off and the abuse continued for many years more.
I wouldn't look for answers in images of people....
@@Ichi-San-1501 oh yes. I know . My father. Pillar of the community. But not with us. Anyway. It's not about images. I just wanted a backgrounds. I guess. Because as you say. Abusers aren't Abusers 24./7. I got an overview. I guess I was more interested in kitty
. But I diont want to foul my mind to much. Been looking at some true crime. I made me sick. I hope you're healing.
@@judithwilliams3147 Sorry I misinterpreted (I thought you were saying something rather attacking like "How would you know José was a brute, did you know him?"),now re-reading I don't understand why I got it wrong.
Oh yes, same here, my adopters were pillars... I wish to you that you are safe now; and healing what can heal. Have a good sunday.
@@Ichi-San-1501 thank you. . I have children and a family that love me. I think the powers that be are going to release the boys. And soon. I'm in New Zealand and it's been on our news. Think they're just trying to work out how to do it. I saw something on RUclips as well. Forgotten it. But another trial. they Dohat.
He is going through this horrendous abuse he had again, by answering all these questions.
FREE Eric and Lyle, God let your will be done 🙏🏼💕
The saying of “sex with your father” is bothering. WHO THE FCUK HAVE SEX WITH THEIR FATHER.smh
As someone else said, can you imagine treating girls accused of the same thing being treated the way the brothers were.
😢 Poor of him… So rich but so miserable, abused by a brutal father, scared of him and hating himself because of those horrible things his dad did to him 😢
That's so fuc*** up
America's Justice should be ashamed that they are still in jail. Greetings from France.
America is pretty vile. Not free.
Cannot believe they even had a doubt this was sexual abuse. I watched the trial the first and at the time never doubted they were sexually abused. Incredible they are still in jail
Totally!
The questions are torture in itself. Call it what is it rape or sexual assault and emotional abuse
After all these horrible experiences you can never say the brothers did the wrong thing.
The judge and the prosecution layer surely are not clean，for any reason the public’s don’t know ！
The boys need to be set free！
What a terrible interrogation. Wtf is that. Why not to say in detail what happened. Why? Because its too gross for other people to hear it. How about this happening to a 6...8...10...15...17 year old hundreds times. He has endured this as long as he can remember. It might be even first memory he can recall is his father abusing him.
Just a horror, hell on earth.
Right.
It was rape not sex😢
Why was it all he thought about?!!!!!!!!! ESCAPE FROM ABUSE WAS WHAT HE WANTED AND NEEDED😭🙏🏼God save and heal these brothers and give them another chance!
They went through hell, then the trial brought them more hell then prison more hell! Thats to much! God will bring them Mercy🙌🏻🙏🏻❤️
He was already threatened with a knife
I think its true that they are really fearful with their lives base on his body language he is telling d truth i feel
For eric❤
The way he gets uncomfortable just hearing about it
Anyone here after watching Monsters on Netflix ? Show was foul! Last episode makes you feel like they might be lying….
I think they did that to show how American public opinion was able to form around the popular narrative at the time which was fallacious
It shows both sides of the story
There are other people who have accused the father of rape outside of the family.
It made me feel like they were telling the truth... besides, theres so much evidence leading to them telling the truth. You dont have to talk about the show.
If you haven’t been following or aware of the case, you should probably not just let a tv series inform you of the Menendez brothers.the parents were the monsters.
Oh God, they rightfully unalived a monster.
Why is it so hard for the system to admit that they got all wrong limiting the abuse in the second trial.release them.set them free.there is no reason to to go through the process.
I keep watching clips of these brothers and it just breaks my heart every time and I start to cry. I haven’t been able to take this out of my mind. How horrible for these brothers. Also, who the hell wants to see this type of movie?! It’s terrible to have to hear what they went through and to put actors playing those parts, its just not right at all. I hope Lyle & Erik get out soon. It baffles me how other people that are pedophiles get out of jail and these brothers were being molested every damn day by both parents and still are in jail. They paid for killing the parents, don’t make them suffer any more! This world is never fair with those who suffer at the hands of beasts. I really pray they don’t have to endure more pain and that they are set free
You’re right; knowing all of these abuse details makes the whole thing the opposite of anything approaching entertainment. Embellishing the story for a Netflix show is depraved.
I remember at the time, these boys condemned by public. Times have sure change. I personally always believed they were abused. Wealthy doesn’t make you a good parent. There always secret s behind closed doors, rich or poor.
I wonder why it took society so long to acknowledge abuse. Reminds me of alex King's trial..very bizarre one where 2 brothers killed their father and alex was being abused by a pdf file neighbor who was involved in it and aided the boys but during the trial they kept calling alex and the pdf file LOVERS...as in a relationship...since kids can't consent its weird to see that in a court of LAW and he is in cuffs on the stand..a 12 year old boy
it's hard to make up a story if you're lying but these brothers have an answer no matter what you ask about the abuse and you'll feel it's true because of the details and emotions that they show.
That father was no father and he was BEYOND DISGUSTING AND ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS. HE HAS ALMIGHTY GOD TO FACE UP TO ON JUDGMENT DAY.
it’s also somewhat recently come out that a man who was a member of a band when he was a kid said he was drugged and raped by jose menendez and another executive producer or something like that and said that the music industry tycoon was drugging and raping lots of children and i’m pretty sure a lot of us know how sketchy those music industries can be i mean they were powerful people and i think there was a lot more to jose menendez, and erik and lyle’s cousins said they told them they had been being touched by their father when they were kids and why would they lie about that for them yeah they are family but i mean come on if you really think about it? and the other family members saying they remember eric had to have lemon in his food all the time, there are some parts of the story and certain things that kinda made me question them though like in some points of the court case erik would actually laugh or smile after just talking about what happened with him and his father and idk it’s just very odd like there’s a lot that makes me believe the abuse and all that nasty horrible stuff is true or at least true to a point but then it’s also like idk cause some things are just kinda odd about it but if they really were abused like that since they were like 6 and all the other stuff that’s just something that i don’t think you really could understand unless you went through it yourself, and how erik said the netflix show was inaccurate but i mean did or can be even watch it i mean maybe his wife did or maybe he could have seen it somehow but idk, there is a documentary coming out october 7th on netflix maybe that’ll have more answers but yeah the whole thing is just so crazy and horrifying
Theres also a family photo of that beast of a "so called father " with his hand covering Erik's genitals when he was around 6/7 yrs old .
*Lyle
Eric's odd affect that was apparent at times----- could possibly represent an alternative personality in control of Eric at that moment. The trauma he endured could certainly cause Dissociative Identity Disorder, previously known as Multiple Personality Disorder. As a retired physician who specialized in Psychiatry , I have dealt with these kind of problems.
Sometimes victims smile or laugh. Bc its their way to get through the nasty. So maybe that's why he smiled or laughed at some point. Laughing spells are real too.
Trauma can make u act really weird.
IT IS RAPE. NOT SEX. RAPE😢
This is so, awful. Lord, Dear God Shame on the Court. Jose Menendez was the MONSTER and we all know, it!!!! Let these brothers out, before you all go to your own helll!!! V
I believe him 💯% !!!!
Mein Gott, man sieht doch das er leidet und wie schwer es ihm fällt. Diesen Jungs wurde sehr viel Unrecht getan...
Que manera agresiva y penosa insistir en preguntar a la víctima todos esos detalles. Que horror !
Agreed, this is why women are reluctant to come forward, because they are put on trial and blamed for what the assailant did. Classic victim blaming! Disgusting that women have to endure this b.s. and so can you just get a real grip of how it would be for a man to Report, way more difficult because society sympathetic with women and heartless towards a man's suffering.
Erik keeps referring to it as sex himself, but that's because that's the language that was forced upon him. His defense attorney should have known better and Helped Him and the Court by property identifying is as Rape, as Molestation! The legal system let them down. Now the legal system can Step Up and do the Right thing---Release Them from Prison.
Its not Sex!!! Its rape
Cant stand the way she cross examines the boys. So cold and brutal in nature.
She has to. So he can handle how the prosecutor will abuse them next. If she didnt prepare him mentally. He may not have gotton through this court here.
You think positive, no negative. You are a champion for ME.
Only 40 seconds in and I’m already pissed off lol what kind of stupid ass question………..I can’t
😂
Right… “why did you say no”??😂😂😂😂😂😂like huhhhhhhh
🤣🤣
This attorney is so rude, stupid and uncompassionate
It almost sounds like she was getting off on it the way she wanted the details sick
LIBERTAD PARA LOS HERMANOS MENÉNDEZ!!!
This poor guy didn’t want anyone to know what was happening & now the world knows.
Has anyone launched a campaign to free the brothers yet?
Yeah Rosie O'Donnell
Freedom for them
Free these brothers and let’s put away the other sick pos who hurt the menudo boys
Well there's nobody to put away cause they're dead but yeah they should be free
@@FelixLincoln-iy5qc Edgardo isn’t
@@meganwilliams7434 oh really?
@@FelixLincoln-iy5qcyep he’s still alive Roy’s filed charges against him for what he did to him and he’s now being investigated
@@meganwilliams7434 oh good (good as in the investigation)
The NBC movie from the 90's only had his dad slap him when he said 'no'. That's a pretty dramatic part to leave out about this knife. You can see the clip at the end of this video(I know most of you didn't make it that far).
it was erik who talked about the knife not lyle
You can tell he's trying not to cry after he says "I hated it" 😓
Sadistic
I’m looking at all the trials and that because when I was a few years older than them and I heard about it and everybody said they did it for the money but when you look into the case, you can see it wasn’t they didn’t kill the parents for the money Just looking at the trial you can see why they did it and I don’t blame them 🙏🏽🙏🏽🌹
Erick was his Dad's sex slave 😢
What a domm question she asks. Why did you say no. Hellooo. I hate the way she asks questions to him
She has to ask EVERYTHING
Some of them are not needed.
Los hermanos Menéndez han sufrido desde que llegaron a este mundo, con unos padres que en realidad eran MONSTRUOS, desalmados, violentos, abusivos, pedófilos. El hecho de que el padre fuera un hombre con dinero, no significó nada en sus vidas, pues no les dio lo más importante que todo hijo necesita : amor, comprensión, respeto, guías y ambiente familiar adecuado. La Fiscalía y el juez Stanley, fallaron en contra de estos chicos, revictimizaton a las verdaderas víctimas que fueron Erick and Lyle. La sociedad y la justicia norteamericana, le quedan debiendo a estos muchachos. LIBERTAD PARA ELLOS, SIN CONDICIONES, ellos actuaron en defensa propia y si eso no es entendido de una vez por todas, quedará un terrible estigma para la justicia norteamericana que se jacta de ser justa, técnica y profesional. ¡LIBERTAD PARA LOS HERMANOS MENÉNDEZ! APÓYENLOS A TRANSITAR EL RESTO DE SUS VIDAS CON AYUDA PROFESIONAL, EMPATÍA, CARIÑO, SIN CARGAR CADENAS, GRILLETES. LIBERTAD COMPLETA, NADA DE CONDICIONAL.
The reality is so much worse than that TV movie clip
What went on during this trial that resulted in the jury not believing them?
Everything Erik describes is told without hesitation or needless embellishment. It seems to be a pure distillation of what occurred.
The justice system completely failed these young men.
Because they were conventionally attractive rich white guys and the general public thought they were too privileged to be victims
There often is no justice system for the defense.
And always a lawyer willing to defend the parents
Why say sex - it was rape, rape and more rape.
Who is asking and referring to it as sex? This woman is disgustingly re traumatizing him and using wrong terminology. Do better! Because they were men society was absolutely indifferent!
They are asking the most STUPID questions with OBVIOUS answers
The leading on the questioning is insane. I'm shocked the judge let her get away with it.
They were not, this is only one part of the trial, she was continuing with what he had already told her, so it was not benefiting them at all because in fact that judge was a biased bastard.
Qué horror 😩😩😩😩😩 cuanto tuvieron que vivir
these questions are so..
The prosecution and defense should have been able to interview, in private, every young man that Jose had come into contact with. If any of them corroborated this kind of abuse, then judge should have let the bros go to a psychiatric unit for awhile to heal.
Yea they didn't want them boys free. So they never do anything that helps the defense win their case. It's all about the win for their pockets. Not the win of the truth.
@@jodinewman2766 yep.
The fact that everyone who knew him considered him a nasty dude is telling enough. Bet they could find many more instances of abuse of any kind in his past. It didn’t start with his sons. He was the kind to buy a little boy for every day of the week.😒
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LORD have mercy