You had throw in a bit about SA at the end despite all that you said. Sledging from other teams is harassment but Aussie sledging is part of the game. Come on!
I’m stunned at how this is being laid at South African feet. We’re not very big on chirping and sledging. It’s mostly done to the Aussies because if you don’t push back the Aussies roll you over.
Sledging is part of the game. Using sandpaper is not. The worst thing about it is, rather than own up to it every Aussie player going cried and denied it and Lehman denied involvement. All of them let Bancroft take the fall rather than the whole team. Disgrace.
@@creativeamerican8811ngland fans are currently having great fun chanting 'you cried on TV' 😅 Apart from one decent knock and a couple of good catches, 'crybaby' is having a pretty poor series so far.
He threw out one small comment, literally one sentence, saying that SA “weren’t angels”. Y’all took that tiny thing and made it “he’s trying to say SA was also to blame”.
The bowlers look at the ball before every delivery they bowl and quite often when they are not bowling, so I find it hard to accept “came out of the blue” if they didn’t notice some changes to the ball surface that appeared strange
Either they knew it already or they are used to the changes on the ball condition....maybe they were told to turn blind eye....bowlers must have known it for sure is my opinion, but they planted a scape goat and dumped everything on him, saving the rest
The umpires inspected the ball after interrogating Bancroft and found no visible tampering so how would the bowlers be able to tell that there was tampering
@@thom10109since umpire doesn't see ball surface after every ball, it's bowler who look ball surface for every delivery and then rub the worn area with their pants to kinda make it smooth or put sweat to make it slip on ground to get a swing! Hope you understand why it's hard for umpire to understand all this while a bowlers knows every piece in and out of this!
No one outside of Australia ever believed the “hard but fair” line. Too many instances of arrogance and lack of graciousness pepper the talented character of the team over the years. A victor or dominant competitor who rubs the oppositions nose in it is simply a bully. No more, no less. Winning is not enough. Entitlement to win becomes the driving motivation, rather than the honour of competing. Changing the content of your sledging or the frequency of it is facile, while the “change of culture” remains elusive.
I'm an Aussie and all of us can't stand Warner. No one likes the bloke. Doesn't help he has the most punchable face in world cricket. Eagerly awaiting his getting dropped.
As an England fan, the only time I saw it clearly was during the 2005 Ashes series. Shane Warne congratulating Freddie Flintoff as they were leaving the field for example.
Minimising knowledge is pretty common. Like Atherton, Botham, Vaughan, Waugh, Warne instances of ball tampering; it's usually the captain and batsmen around the slip cordon that come up with this stuff and the bowlers on the boundary are none the wiser.
A ton of excuses, leading up to a partial admission of guilt. It was never fully investigated, and I'm betting that there were many more people involved in this absolute scandal than the cricket world has been led to believe. Aussie cricket didn't just let themselves down by concealing the full extent of this story: they let the game down.
Every Aussie bowler that picked up that ball, must have known it had been tampered with. Not just the bowlers either. The whole team, and the Aussie management team were in on it.
As Freddie Flintoff said, these kind of decisions are taken as a team, every bowler, batsmen coach management staff knows whats gonna happen. But Aussies will never admit that they done something wrong. Aussie's love to call people and players out but cry when the same happened to them
Yeah well thats easy to say, because you seem to want to believe it for some reason. The question is why? Tell us how it wasn’t fully investigated? How was the admission of guilt only partial? The broadcaster followed the ball, only Bancroft used sandpaper on the ball. Do you think an entire team would agree to cross their personal ethical line to participate without even a single dissenter?? Even Smith merely turned a blind eye as opposed to actively hatching the plan. The time for hysteria has long passed, the heavy penalties paid and then some. Just because people like you want yet more blood, that does not mean this terrible chapter needs to be lived in perpetuity.
@@rojay9546 your only response is oh but they did it to so its okay. We can accept the dropping of the ball and sledging but South Africa did not tamper with the ball, end of story. No outside forces put the sandpaper on the field, no one pressured the Aussies to use it. The Aussies crossed the line, Steve smith should have never played again by his own stepping down, he was the leader and failed.
@@alexmeyer3690 Ah you mean like Faf du Plessis and Vernon Philander-du Plessis in 2016. Typical boks always pointing at others and using selective memory on their own players!
I really feel sorry for Bancroft. He was young and young people do stupid things. But Smith and Warner involvement was totally unacceptable. Poor guy Bancroft. That was the last time we saw him playing international cricket while other 2 made a comeback.
After the South Africa episode went viral, a clip of Bancroft filling his pockets with sugar during the previous ashes series emerged. I struggle with his explanation that it was to give him an energy boost in the field. There are more conventional ways than having a tacky mess of sugar in your pocket.. As Joe Root stated afterwards when the SA scandal went public, they had suspicions during the ashes series when Australians were getting early reverse swing but had no proof at the time.
The point about Smith throwing Bancroft under the bus (and then anyone else he could) is very revealing as to his character. Makes it hard to trust anything else he has said about this. Weirdly though I utterly dislike Warner's approach to cricket on the field, I feel like he is more trustworthy on this issue than Smith, the bowling unit or CA.
I remember test series between India and Australia. Their coach JL used a word banter whenever he was questioned about why australian players were chirping on filed and when kohli started to do it and australians were tasting their own medicine then JL said this *Kohli is getting under our skins*. I think its social media because of which we get to see this. But Australian team along with its board are worst and unprofessional team in this game. Even their board once said do anything to win.
I still think that there are suspicions about previous matches. During the previous Ashes series there was certainly bemusement in England at how the Aussie bowlers were getting the ball to talk when the English (including the 2 most prolific fast bowlers in history) weren't.
Notably in the Perth test when Hazelwood was getting reverse swing from the 7th over. The same test where Bancroft was caught on camera filling his pocket up with sugar.
@@arlencarroll1964 you know what prolific means right? Can you name any fast bowlers who've taken more test wickets than Anderson and Broad in history?...
There was definitely a poor culture in that team where they arrogantly put themselves on pedestals as the arbiters of the spirit of the game and that amplified the reaction to them being caught ball tampering. They went into that series intent on mentally destroying South Africa in their own backyard, evidenced beforehand when they demanded that the stump microphones were turned down, so they could really get stuck in. Things didn't go to plan as the Proteas fought fire with fire and they resorted to cheating when the series was beginning to be lost and were caught. Their coach at the time, Darren Lehmann, accused the South African crowd of poor behaviour by wearing Sonny Bill Williams face masks in reponse to Queintin De Kock's sledge/insult to David Warner. This is the same man who encouraged the public to verbally abuse Stuart Broad in the 2014 Ashes series in Australia to the extent it made him cry and go home. That was after the incident in the previous Ashes series in England where Broad "didn't walk" despite edging Ashton Agar to first slip and not being given out. This exposed Lehmann as a massive hypocrite, a man who as a player was once banned at the 2003 ODI World Cup for racially abusing a Sri Lankan bowler (ironically in South Africa). As for the majority of the team (including Lehmann) not knowing about the plan to tamper with the ball, we will never probably get the full truth but surely the bowlers would have noticed the illegal changes to the ball in an attempt to produce reverse swing? There was a fair amount of ass covering that went on after being caught that could mean more than just the three players eventually punished knew what was going on. It's also probable that this kind of ball tampering had been happening before this series and they arrogantly thought they would never be caught.
A very good account and documentary. Part one about culture and pressure was particularly interesting in how the situation came about. I have to say though that a a real leader, a man with real integrity and a man of honour would have taken full responsibility as Skipper and would have done all he could to exonerate the junior bancroft. Sadly Smith is not such a man
Aussies are born cheats! Every other test match they pick up the ball from the ground and start celebrating as it was the most stupendous catch ever. Australian cheating (with help from Bucknor and Benson) cost India the 2008 series in Australia. And even earlier in the Sydney match from the 2004 series (Steve Waugh’s last test), Australian probably paid the umpires because none of them were willing to give Waugh and Martyn out when they were plumb in front at least be 6-7 times. Aus had escaped then with a 1-1 drawn series.
I definitely agree with you on the Supersport coverage. I’m a SAFFA btw. But this series feels like a justification for why the Australians cheated. But again, I agree with you on the Supersport coverage. Looking back now, it was cringe. Doesn’t excuse cheating and calling it “the Supersport cameras” all the time
We (South Africans) know SuperSport’s history and roots, so working closely with the authorities to drive a narrative isn’t far-fetched and probably accurate. But yeah, strange take to say SA fans, players and media caused this. They planned to cheat, they cheated, they got caught, they tried to pin it on a junior player, lied about it repeatedly and then had to climb down. Not at all the same as other ball tampering cases we’ve seen in the past.
There are so many questions that have never been answered, and many that for some reason have never been asked. Did Cam Bancroft have sandpaper with him in this kit in the change rooms? If he did, why and how many other team members knew that he had it? If he did, for how long had it been there and for what reason? If he didn't, where did he get it from? If he had to get it from outside the change room areas, did he do so alone or did someone get of for him? Nobody tells a junior player to tamper with the ball using sandpaper without knowing whether he had sandpaper in the first place.
This documentary sounds like one big excuse for the Aussie national team cheating. Lol, typical of an Australian. By the way, all the players said (including Aussie players) that Warner had started the verbal fight De Kock. Warner, like many other Australian cricketers, is very arrogant! Glad it all blew up for that team as the way they played the game with their arrogance and bully mentality was not good for the game. As far as i'm concerned both him and Smith should have been banned for life. Their playing again, at least it seems like their a lot more humble nowadays.
"Hard but fair" that is quite the euphamism. I think they protected the bowling group because they needed them for the future. Losing 2 great players as opposed to 4 greats is the lesser of two evils. Sad day for all of cricket. Try as you may Australia did what they did.
You really learn a lot about a person when shit hits the fan, poor Bankcroft to have leaders that poor at the time Smith, Warner, Starc, Hazzlewood, Lyon and the Coach (I include these players because they were seniors at the time and even if they knew of nothing which Bankcroft insinuated that they did, they sure as shit should've stood up for the youngster) behaved disgracefully in the way Bankcroft was treated they should be ashamed... having said that no one should be considered irredeemable as who can say they have never made questionable moral decision under pressure. A man is made in self reflection, hope these guys have learned their lesson and play the game in a respectful manner, sadly the recent ashes tour Smith was quick to anger at the first bit of pressure...
"everyone knows what happened so I'll keep it quick" - Its a documentary mate, explain it fully? Also pathetic for you to try and palm off with "b-b-but the South Africans were kind of mean" when the Australians literally cheated outright.
I was a wicket keeper and used to look at the ball every time it touched my gloves, I would have know bowlers would not? This is the great elephant which will stay in the room until they have all retired.
To summarise - Part 1 is all SA fault, apparently.. I mean, how dare they be better than Australia! Part 2 - feel sorry for Australia, cause again, SA provoked us with some words and we thought it was best to cheat..
Goes for both sides? … Sure nobody really knows what happened between Sonny-Bill and Warners’ wife inside the men’s loo cubicle at the airport. But you can be sure that if Warner starts sledging me when I’m batting, I might just ask him the question about how she explained it to him.
Isn’t it amazing that you failed to mention the cheating in the Sydney Ashes Test??? This had been a pattern of behaviour and systemic cheating by the Australian Men’s Cricket 🏏 team for some time!!!! And the bastards got what they deserved!!!
If Smith really wanted to take responsibility, he wouldn’t have dropped Bancroft in the shit and would have announced his resignation as Captain there and then.
They all knew about the sand paper they just blamed a few to hold onto a team. All of them should have been fined and Bancroft should have been let off. Used and abused.
Greta documentary. Cor me the hugely disgraceful part of it all was the way Steve Smith the Bancroft under the bus and spoke about the "leadership group" at the press conference ,as if he was not part of the group. So much for Aussie mateship.
Bowlers are fanatical about the state of the ball, its a stretch to believe they did not have an inkling that something was up.. Bancroft has not played for Australia since unlike other 2 who have been welcomed back with open arms. The fabled line they never ever crossed unlike other teams...
Great video. I hope that one day each person who was involved tells their 100% honest story. I am sceptical that this will ever happen, but I would just like to know the truth. Who was involved (including those higher up than the team), what the logic was, the coercion of Bancroft. I also want to know if this was the only time of such an incident.
"The south Africans werent exactly angels either".... 😂😂😂 you joker. The aussie players and crowd are brutal it is part of the game. Its sledging and it often gets personal. The Aussies cheated and the captain through a young team mate under the bus.... shocking behaviour and lets be fair if any team/player cheated against the Aussies you would be screaming for a life time ban.... 😂
How come the bowlers didnt knew. They are handling the ball after during the delivery. They must hv sensed, as the ball must hv started to reverse must hv chosen to tuen blind and deaf.
Lame attempt to justify. Trying to create an answer to “crossing the line” documentary but this feels as fake as your narration. This has happened before and will happen again.
This is a very poor account of cheating that occurred and Aussie cricket in general. You glossed over the detail of the video of the sandpaper and the attempt to hide it. At no point do you account for the lack of responsibility in Captain and those responsible in admitting the. Extent of the cheating. You insinuate but leave it in the air. Warner and the Aussies had always been the kings of sledging and very cut throat but you quickly defend Warner for his reaction to Q de Kok. And don’t even mention the content, saying that your viewers can Google that themselves. It was a very needling chirp but Warner (like any bully) can’t take as good as he gets. SBW getting stuck into his wife which was all over the Aussie media was always going to come up when the bully is incessant in his digging into others. Lastly, they should have got at least a 3 year ban like they do in rugby Union for substance abuse which so many countries have had to take on the chin whilst most of them are apologetic and fully admit their wrongdoings. Worst moment in cricket and no-one has taken full accountability speaks volumes about the integrity of Australian Cricket. Shameful
If the bowlers had no idea that the condition of the ball had been changed to make it more favourable for them to get wickets, then why bother doing it?? Surely the idea of ball tampering is to make it a lot easier for the bowlers to get wickets??
Wait beside the passing of some aussir cricket dude, you forgot to mention the underarm bowling incident in the 80s as another low point in Aussie Cricket
It wasn’t the first test where there was some bashing between the teams, you say it like SA made them tamper with the ball. Steve Smith was in a tough situation yes but SA wasn’t one of the reasons they tampered with the ball. Danko
This is when they were caught, no idea how many times it happened before that. Starcsbowling average rose considerably after this match for a year or two.
I did plenty of research into that but thought it was a bit speculative to say for sure who was in the leadership team so left it out of the final Cut. my. guess would be Lyon, Hazlwood and Starc as well as Smith and Warner.
@@SBsportmedia still details not either disclosed by the investigation or by the 3 players involved. Until all information is revealed there'll be a question mark over Smith and Warner. Also a bowler would surely know if the ball is being tampered with yet they claim their innocence. I'm hoping someone will put out the real truth at some point.
There's no doubt Warner will write a book after retirement. He has had a lot of issues with Cricket Australia. He wants his life time ban from leadership lifted but CA won't do it. The bowlers have asked him to keep quiet about their role in that scandal. You don't ever do anything to the cricket ball without the bowlers knowing about it.
how can you say the level of knowledge smith had about the plot is disputed when you have a graphic on screen saying he knew and chose not to do anything about it?
Lol, Unsure why the vid creator is so sympathetic to the Australian team's arrogant and indecent culture. Their team was never fair on or off the field pre-sandpaper gate, their racial jibes and downright disrespectful attitude toward opposing teams is well documented. This incident was one among a deep trail of arrogance and they finally got caught in the act and admitted it.
Bowlers didn’t know?? Yeah alright. Of course they knew. They would know the exact condition of the ball, differing shape, smoothness etc of the ball. They were all a bunch of cheats
This Australian team was good they never had to cheat…BUT WARNER WAS A BAD PART OF THIS SIDE THE HORRIBLE LITTLE MIDGET RUINED IT ALL FOR THEM IT ONLY TAKES ONE TO PULL A WHOLE TEAM UNDER AND THAT WAS WARNER AND THASTS WHAT HE WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR CHEATING…,
Are you seriously comparing bad cricketing practices of Australian cricketers with other teams, you must be seriously out of your mind mate. Please watch more I would only recommend.
Bottom line I think is Smith was a captain in name only and didn't have the clout to deal with personalities like Warner or defend new up and comers like Bancroft. Ponting and Clarke would never have succumb to such pressure.
You had throw in a bit about SA at the end despite all that you said. Sledging from other teams is harassment but Aussie sledging is part of the game. Come on!
I’m stunned at how this is being laid at South African feet. We’re not very big on chirping and sledging. It’s mostly done to the Aussies because if you don’t push back the Aussies roll you over.
Sledging is part of the game. Using sandpaper is not.
The worst thing about it is, rather than own up to it every Aussie player going cried and denied it and Lehman denied involvement. All of them let Bancroft take the fall rather than the whole team.
Disgrace.
Yea, I don't understand that. Are SA any worse than any other country for sledging? It might be questionable, but it certainly isn't cheating.
@@creativeamerican8811ngland fans are currently having great fun chanting 'you cried on TV' 😅
Apart from one decent knock and a couple of good catches, 'crybaby' is having a pretty poor series so far.
He threw out one small comment, literally one sentence, saying that SA “weren’t angels”. Y’all took that tiny thing and made it “he’s trying to say SA was also to blame”.
“If you haven’t watched part one, I suggest you do as that has all the excuses”. 😂
The bowlers look at the ball before every delivery they bowl and quite often when they are not bowling, so I find it hard to accept “came out of the blue” if they didn’t notice some changes to the ball surface that appeared strange
Either they knew it already or they are used to the changes on the ball condition....maybe they were told to turn blind eye....bowlers must have known it for sure is my opinion, but they planted a scape goat and dumped everything on him, saving the rest
It's looks strange that bowlers who have ball in their own hands didn't notice tampering
The umpires inspected the ball after interrogating Bancroft and found no visible tampering so how would the bowlers be able to tell that there was tampering
@@thom10109since umpire doesn't see ball surface after every ball, it's bowler who look ball surface for every delivery and then rub the worn area with their pants to kinda make it smooth or put sweat to make it slip on ground to get a swing! Hope you understand why it's hard for umpire to understand all this while a bowlers knows every piece in and out of this!
No one outside of Australia ever believed the “hard but fair” line. Too many instances of arrogance and lack of graciousness pepper the talented character of the team over the years. A victor or dominant competitor who rubs the oppositions nose in it is simply a bully. No more, no less. Winning is not enough. Entitlement to win becomes the driving motivation, rather than the honour of competing. Changing the content of your sledging or the frequency of it is facile, while the “change of culture” remains elusive.
I'm an Aussie and all of us can't stand Warner. No one likes the bloke. Doesn't help he has the most punchable face in world cricket. Eagerly awaiting his getting dropped.
As an England fan, the only time I saw it clearly was during the 2005 Ashes series. Shane Warne congratulating Freddie Flintoff as they were leaving the field for example.
LOL - the bowlers didn’t know what was going on in a ball tampering incident. Tell us another one! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Minimising knowledge is pretty common. Like Atherton, Botham, Vaughan, Waugh, Warne instances of ball tampering; it's usually the captain and batsmen around the slip cordon that come up with this stuff and the bowlers on the boundary are none the wiser.
A ton of excuses, leading up to a partial admission of guilt. It was never fully investigated, and I'm betting that there were many more people involved in this absolute scandal than the cricket world has been led to believe. Aussie cricket didn't just let themselves down by concealing the full extent of this story: they let the game down.
It’s Supersports fault!🤣
Every Aussie bowler that picked up that ball, must have known it had been tampered with. Not just the bowlers either. The whole team, and the Aussie management team were in on it.
I remember hearing somebody once say that Australia's national motto should be "Kill Sport"
As Freddie Flintoff said, these kind of decisions are taken as a team, every bowler, batsmen coach management staff knows whats gonna happen. But Aussies will never admit that they done something wrong. Aussie's love to call people and players out but cry when the same happened to them
Yeah well thats easy to say, because you seem to want to believe it for some reason. The question is why? Tell us how it wasn’t fully investigated? How was the admission of guilt only partial? The broadcaster followed the ball, only Bancroft used sandpaper on the ball. Do you think an entire team would agree to cross their personal ethical line to participate without even a single dissenter?? Even Smith merely turned a blind eye as opposed to actively hatching the plan. The time for hysteria has long passed, the heavy penalties paid and then some. Just because people like you want yet more blood, that does not mean this terrible chapter needs to be lived in perpetuity.
For me when Lyon dropped the ball on AB it was a game changer. Showed their true character.
As did all of South Africa, directing abuse at the families of Aussie players during the tour. Disgusting, petty, low.
@@rojay9546 the Aussie’s have been abusing opposition for years. If that’s what the Saffas did it was wrong.
@@rojay9546 how does it taste
@@rojay9546 your only response is oh but they did it to so its okay. We can accept the dropping of the ball and sledging but South Africa did not tamper with the ball, end of story. No outside forces put the sandpaper on the field, no one pressured the Aussies to use it. The Aussies crossed the line, Steve smith should have never played again by his own stepping down, he was the leader and failed.
@@alexmeyer3690 Ah you mean like Faf du Plessis and Vernon Philander-du Plessis in 2016. Typical boks always pointing at others and using selective memory on their own players!
I really feel sorry for Bancroft. He was young and young people do stupid things. But Smith and Warner involvement was totally unacceptable. Poor guy Bancroft. That was the last time we saw him playing international cricket while other 2 made a comeback.
Bancroft did make a comeback in international cricket after that. He played in the 2019 ashes series...
True
I agree mate. Smith and Warner should have been banned for life. It was calculated cheating, as bad as or worse than spot fixing.
After the South Africa episode went viral, a clip of Bancroft filling his pockets with sugar during the previous ashes series emerged. I struggle with his explanation that it was to give him an energy boost in the field. There are more conventional ways than having a tacky mess of sugar in your pocket.. As Joe Root stated afterwards when the SA scandal went public, they had suspicions during the ashes series when Australians were getting early reverse swing but had no proof at the time.
@@RebelRebelious They've always been dirty... these pathetic fu**s
Brilliantly made. I watched every minute
Great documentary. I watched every episode. Explained very well
The point about Smith throwing Bancroft under the bus (and then anyone else he could) is very revealing as to his character. Makes it hard to trust anything else he has said about this. Weirdly though I utterly dislike Warner's approach to cricket on the field, I feel like he is more trustworthy on this issue than Smith, the bowling unit or CA.
Smith throwing Bancroft under the bus at the press conference gets me pissed off every time I see it.
Agree absolutely pathetic...
I remember test series between India and Australia. Their coach JL used a word banter whenever he was questioned about why australian players were chirping on filed and when kohli started to do it and australians were tasting their own medicine then JL said this *Kohli is getting under our skins*. I think its social media because of which we get to see this. But Australian team along with its board are worst and unprofessional team in this game. Even their board once said do anything to win.
I still think that there are suspicions about previous matches.
During the previous Ashes series there was certainly bemusement in England at how the Aussie bowlers were getting the ball to talk when the English (including the 2 most prolific fast bowlers in history) weren't.
They were definitely ball tampering throughout that series. The same way England ball tampered throughout the 2005 Ashes.
@@StuTheDon17 mints and saliva were legal in 05.
Sandpaper has never been legal.
Notably in the Perth test when Hazelwood was getting reverse swing from the 7th over. The same test where Bancroft was caught on camera filling his pocket up with sugar.
"2 most prolific fast bowlers in history" 😂😂😂 um nope.not even in top 100
@@arlencarroll1964 you know what prolific means right? Can you name any fast bowlers who've taken more test wickets than Anderson and Broad in history?...
There was definitely a poor culture in that team where they arrogantly put themselves on pedestals as the arbiters of the spirit of the game and that amplified the reaction to them being caught ball tampering. They went into that series intent on mentally destroying South Africa in their own backyard, evidenced beforehand when they demanded that the stump microphones were turned down, so they could really get stuck in. Things didn't go to plan as the Proteas fought fire with fire and they resorted to cheating when the series was beginning to be lost and were caught.
Their coach at the time, Darren Lehmann, accused the South African crowd of poor behaviour by wearing Sonny Bill Williams face masks in reponse to Queintin De Kock's sledge/insult to David Warner. This is the same man who encouraged the public to verbally abuse Stuart Broad in the 2014 Ashes series in Australia to the extent it made him cry and go home. That was after the incident in the previous Ashes series in England where Broad "didn't walk" despite edging Ashton Agar to first slip and not being given out. This exposed Lehmann as a massive hypocrite, a man who as a player was once banned at the 2003 ODI World Cup for racially abusing a Sri Lankan bowler (ironically in South Africa).
As for the majority of the team (including Lehmann) not knowing about the plan to tamper with the ball, we will never probably get the full truth but surely the bowlers would have noticed the illegal changes to the ball in an attempt to produce reverse swing? There was a fair amount of ass covering that went on after being caught that could mean more than just the three players eventually punished knew what was going on. It's also probable that this kind of ball tampering had been happening before this series and they arrogantly thought they would never be caught.
Fantastic documentary by the way!
A very good account and documentary. Part one about culture and pressure was particularly interesting in how the situation came about. I have to say though that a a real leader, a man with real integrity and a man of honour would have taken full responsibility as Skipper and would have done all he could to exonerate the junior bancroft. Sadly Smith is not such a man
Aussies are born cheats! Every other test match they pick up the ball from the ground and start celebrating as it was the most stupendous catch ever. Australian cheating (with help from Bucknor and Benson) cost India the 2008 series in Australia. And even earlier in the Sydney match from the 2004 series (Steve Waugh’s last test), Australian probably paid the umpires because none of them were willing to give Waugh and Martyn out when they were plumb in front at least be 6-7 times. Aus had escaped then with a 1-1 drawn series.
good to see you've moved on from that game brother!
6 world cups pal, Patty cummins embarrassed the “best in the world” just like Ponting did 20 years earlier in 2003.
I definitely agree with you on the Supersport coverage. I’m a SAFFA btw. But this series feels like a justification for why the Australians cheated. But again, I agree with you on the Supersport coverage. Looking back now, it was cringe. Doesn’t excuse cheating and calling it “the Supersport cameras” all the time
We (South Africans) know SuperSport’s history and roots, so working closely with the authorities to drive a narrative isn’t far-fetched and probably accurate.
But yeah, strange take to say SA fans, players and media caused this. They planned to cheat, they cheated, they got caught, they tried to pin it on a junior player, lied about it repeatedly and then had to climb down. Not at all the same as other ball tampering cases we’ve seen in the past.
God bless Fannie De Villiers he knew what was going on 😁👍
They all knew, they all lied.
There are so many questions that have never been answered, and many that for some reason have never been asked. Did Cam Bancroft have sandpaper with him in this kit in the change rooms? If he did, why and how many other team members knew that he had it? If he did, for how long had it been there and for what reason? If he didn't, where did he get it from? If he had to get it from outside the change room areas, did he do so alone or did someone get of for him? Nobody tells a junior player to tamper with the ball using sandpaper without knowing whether he had sandpaper in the first place.
This guy is really trying to put blame on South Africa for the Aussies cheating. Absolutely shameless
Australia - play hard; play fair; bowl underarm; use sandpaper. Pressure is not an excuse. Just bloody behave.
U look at the ball when u take it in your hand , as a bowler to tell me u didn't know what was going on 🤣🤣🤣
This documentary sounds like one big excuse for the Aussie national team cheating. Lol, typical of an Australian. By the way, all the players said (including Aussie players) that Warner had started the verbal fight De Kock. Warner, like many other Australian cricketers, is very arrogant! Glad it all blew up for that team as the way they played the game with their arrogance and bully mentality was not good for the game. As far as i'm concerned both him and Smith should have been banned for life. Their playing again, at least it seems like their a lot more humble nowadays.
"Hard but fair" that is quite the euphamism. I think they protected the bowling group because they needed them for the future. Losing 2 great players as opposed to 4 greats is the lesser of two evils. Sad day for all of cricket. Try as you may Australia did what they did.
You really learn a lot about a person when shit hits the fan, poor Bankcroft to have leaders that poor at the time Smith, Warner, Starc, Hazzlewood, Lyon and the Coach (I include these players because they were seniors at the time and even if they knew of nothing which Bankcroft insinuated that they did, they sure as shit should've stood up for the youngster) behaved disgracefully in the way Bankcroft was treated they should be ashamed... having said that no one should be considered irredeemable as who can say they have never made questionable moral decision under pressure. A man is made in self reflection, hope these guys have learned their lesson and play the game in a respectful manner, sadly the recent ashes tour Smith was quick to anger at the first bit of pressure...
"everyone knows what happened so I'll keep it quick" - Its a documentary mate, explain it fully? Also pathetic for you to try and palm off with "b-b-but the South Africans were kind of mean" when the Australians literally cheated outright.
great work mate
I was a wicket keeper and used to look at the ball every time it touched my gloves, I would have know bowlers would not? This is the great elephant which will stay in the room until they have all retired.
Shining light of test cricket my arse. It's only wrong when other teams do it has always been the Australian way.
To summarise - Part 1 is all SA fault, apparently.. I mean, how dare they be better than Australia! Part 2 - feel sorry for Australia, cause again, SA provoked us with some words and we thought it was best to cheat..
This series tries really hard to justify the Ausie cheating . . .
So the cameras watching them to see if they cheat was a bad thing because players spotted it before?? Really dude?
Aussies hooping it round corners for years but the bowlers didn't know a thing about it 😂 absolutely shameless nation.
Class doc lad
Steve Smith, David Warner are both exceptional ambassadors of Australian cricket, well done boys!
Thanks
So we going to pretend this is the first time they’ve done it? This is the first time they’ve got caught
Goes for both sides? … Sure nobody really knows what happened between Sonny-Bill and Warners’ wife inside the men’s loo cubicle at the airport. But you can be sure that if Warner starts sledging me when I’m batting, I might just ask him the question about how she explained it to him.
This when they got caught because camera men were tipped off. Now I get it what was Ricky Ponting's secret to all those ashes and WC
Blame everything else but the truth is they cheated…..
Isn’t it amazing that you failed to mention the cheating in the Sydney Ashes Test??? This had been a pattern of behaviour and systemic cheating by the Australian Men’s Cricket 🏏 team for some time!!!!
And the bastards got what they deserved!!!
Shining beacon of cricket my arse.
Is this channel run by smith and Warner?
If Smith really wanted to take responsibility, he wouldn’t have dropped Bancroft in the shit and would have announced his resignation as Captain there and then.
Saying that Lehmann and the rest of the team didn't know what was going on was a joke. Speed and co should have gone to jail.
And south Africa captain match fixing
Its all Supersports fault!! Pathetic and biased look into blatant cheating!!
They all knew about the sand paper they just blamed a few to hold onto a team.
All of them should have been fined and Bancroft should have been let off. Used and abused.
Greta documentary. Cor me the hugely disgraceful part of it all was the way Steve Smith the Bancroft under the bus and spoke about the "leadership group" at the press conference ,as if he was not part of the group. So much for Aussie mateship.
I think now india australia series attracted lot of eyeballs this summer
Bowlers are fanatical about the state of the ball, its a stretch to believe they did not have an inkling that something was up.. Bancroft has not played for Australia since unlike other 2 who have been welcomed back with open arms. The fabled line they never ever crossed unlike other teams...
Bancroft played in the 2019 Ashes series.
always cheating, always and still do it
Great video.
I hope that one day each person who was involved tells their 100% honest story. I am sceptical that this will ever happen, but I would just like to know the truth. Who was involved (including those higher up than the team), what the logic was, the coercion of Bancroft. I also want to know if this was the only time of such an incident.
Not sorry, only sorry they got caught. From a European perspective the Aussies seem really naive and weak….
Couldn't watch beyond the first minute. The audio volume is frustratingly low.
Guessing you don't have a volume button on the 1856 fabricated computer!
"The south Africans werent exactly angels either".... 😂😂😂 you joker. The aussie players and crowd are brutal it is part of the game. Its sledging and it often gets personal. The Aussies cheated and the captain through a young team mate under the bus.... shocking behaviour and lets be fair if any team/player cheated against the Aussies you would be screaming for a life time ban.... 😂
ur trying to defend these crooks....no man!!
David Warner and Steve Smit should have been banned from all forms of cricket. If you can tamper with a ball from part as match fixing...
How come the bowlers didnt knew. They are handling the ball after during the delivery. They must hv sensed, as the ball must hv started to reverse must hv chosen to tuen blind and deaf.
How many matches were won with sandpaper?
Lame attempt to justify. Trying to create an answer to “crossing the line” documentary but this feels as fake as your narration. This has happened before and will happen again.
improve your voiceover. it needs to be louder ( too faint to hear reupload them all after increasing the voice)
This is a very poor account of cheating that occurred and Aussie cricket in general. You glossed over the detail of the video of the sandpaper and the attempt to hide it.
At no point do you account for the lack of responsibility in Captain and those responsible in admitting the. Extent of the cheating. You insinuate but leave it in the air.
Warner and the Aussies had always been the kings of sledging and very cut throat but you quickly defend Warner for his reaction to Q de Kok. And don’t even mention the content, saying that your viewers can Google that themselves. It was a very needling chirp but Warner (like any bully) can’t take as good as he gets. SBW getting stuck into his wife which was all over the Aussie media was always going to come up when the bully is incessant in his digging into others.
Lastly, they should have got at least a 3 year ban like they do in rugby Union for substance abuse which so many countries have had to take on the chin whilst most of them are apologetic and fully admit their wrongdoings.
Worst moment in cricket and no-one has taken full accountability speaks volumes about the integrity of Australian Cricket.
Shameful
If the bowlers had no idea that the condition of the ball had been changed to make it more favourable for them to get wickets, then why bother doing it?? Surely the idea of ball tampering is to make it a lot easier for the bowlers to get wickets??
Wait beside the passing of some aussir cricket dude, you forgot to mention the underarm bowling incident in the 80s as another low point in Aussie Cricket
David warner is the biggest dichead for doing that to bancroft. While warner continues to have a career, Bancroft cant.
Win at all costs always comes back to bite you 😮
It wasn’t the first test where there was some bashing between the teams, you say it like SA made them tamper with the ball. Steve Smith was in a tough situation yes but SA wasn’t one of the reasons they tampered with the ball. Danko
This is when they were caught, no idea how many times it happened before that. Starcsbowling average rose considerably after this match for a year or two.
australia sucked after this for a year or 2
Didn't Smith speak of the Leadership Team making the decision to alter the ball, who were in the leadership team.
I did plenty of research into that but thought it was a bit speculative to say for sure who was in the leadership team so left it out of the final Cut. my. guess would be Lyon, Hazlwood and Starc as well as Smith and Warner.
@@SBsportmedia still details not either disclosed by the investigation or by the 3 players involved. Until all information is revealed there'll be a question mark over Smith and Warner. Also a bowler would surely know if the ball is being tampered with yet they claim their innocence. I'm hoping someone will put out the real truth at some point.
There's no doubt Warner will write a book after retirement. He has had a lot of issues with Cricket Australia. He wants his life time ban from leadership lifted but CA won't do it. The bowlers have asked him to keep quiet about their role in that scandal. You don't ever do anything to the cricket ball without the bowlers knowing about it.
I'm watching this after Bairstow's "stumping" at Lord's 2023
how can you say the level of knowledge smith had about the plot is disputed when you have a graphic on screen saying he knew and chose not to do anything about it?
What's up with this audio?
It may happens before too they can do anything for win matches. They can go to any extent
Mate Part 1 is just you making excuses for this fiasco. Rubbish!
Please improve the quality of your audio
It is pretty good. Use better headphones
Lol, Unsure why the vid creator is so sympathetic to the Australian team's arrogant and indecent culture. Their team was never fair on or off the field pre-sandpaper gate, their racial jibes and downright disrespectful attitude toward opposing teams is well documented. This incident was one among a deep trail of arrogance and they finally got caught in the act and admitted it.
Bowlers didn’t know?? Yeah alright. Of course they knew. They would know the exact condition of the ball, differing shape, smoothness etc of the ball. They were all a bunch of cheats
The bowlers knew.
“Sorry, we got caught”
Sounds like they can give the stick but can’t take it.
Sorry to say even if they cheated that's not how you deal with players like smudge was taken by the police like he has committed a heinous crime
....... like a prison exchange 😂😂😂😂
Same old ozzies
Oh and another thing, the whole team knew and the manager and coach also knew,,,,Aussies sledge together, so I'm sure they cheated together aswell...
1994 test England vs South Africa, Michael Atherton was also cheating.
Warner smith and Bancroft protected the rest of the team because everyone would of known, btw smith is a great player but 100% not a leader
Yeah watch the first episode so you get get a real idea of rehearsal excuses and scapegoats this so called documentary makes for cheaters 👍
This Australian team was good they never had to cheat…BUT WARNER WAS A BAD PART OF THIS SIDE THE HORRIBLE LITTLE MIDGET RUINED IT ALL FOR THEM IT ONLY TAKES ONE TO PULL A WHOLE TEAM UNDER AND THAT WAS WARNER AND THASTS WHAT HE WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR CHEATING…,
Are you seriously comparing bad cricketing practices of Australian cricketers with other teams, you must be seriously out of your mind mate. Please watch more I would only recommend.
its only because of the media that it was so documented, everyone in the world has ball tampered
Bottom line I think is Smith was a captain in name only and didn't have the clout to deal with personalities like Warner or defend new up and comers like Bancroft.
Ponting and Clarke would never have succumb to such pressure.
The thing is, Clarke was most likely leading the cheating. He is a gutter rat.
Cheats sorry but cheats
This is what they do
They all knew, every one of them
Cheating Aussies.
Ricky Ponting
Thrown under the bus by Smith
Its always Aus.