Im pretty sure if any of our players had tampered with the ball. The Australians would have cried for much harsher punishments than the slap on the wrists they got
@@Nothing-kr5hn no tf it isn't, australia have a class basketball team second only to the US, we're also one of the best countries during the olympics, have an elite rugby team and ofc the best cricket team of all time.
@@brobros4950if you honestly believe that that was first time they did it you are delusional…. Starc’s incredible reverse swing all but Vanished after that match. They definitely did it before but they weren’t caught
One of the series that should've been mentioned was Australia's tour of India in 2017. There were incidents of bad behavior from both sides but Steve Smith looking up at the dressing room to get help with a DRS decision topped it off. He was labeled as a cheat but escaped any punishment. Had he been punished i doubt the SA saga would have happened.
Please dont make Warner thr victim here and SA players, their supporters and the media the bad guys. australia does the sake thing at home and according to a many senior and respectable players like Graeme Smith, Warner has crossed the line many times. Great content but no sympathy should be shown to either Warner or Smith for cheating the game. I also remember Smith letting Hazlewood abuse the third umpire in a game against NZ for a right decision being given for NZ and also looking at dressing room for DRS against India. That aint no brain fade. Great content tbh but Warner and Smith are not victims.
so they were told prior to the 2017 ashes to tamper with the ball "if that's what it takes", but didn't until the following series? Given how much earlier than England they were getting movement in that ashes I think that's nonsense. They'd been cheating before they set down in South Africa
@@jayansaini7093 Like England. Marcus Trescothick and Monty Panesar confessed in their Autobiography that England had been ball tampering their entire career but we're never caught.
You took words out of my mouth. It's conjecture and not really worth doing post sandpaper gate but it would be interesting to rewatch that ashes series knowing what we know now. The pressure would have been highest for that series and in all probabilities where it started.
Really going out of your way to paint South Africa as the problem here rather than the Australian Team culture at the time... going out of your way to find excuses for Warner. Its the broadcasters, its the South African fans, it De Kock... so Tim Paine says de Kock said something so his word is gospel and justifies Warners on field behavior and comments which are simply brushed over? You're going a long way to paint Warner in as positive a light as possible, rather than what he is on the field... a prick. I thought the failures in team culture (Warner being a key part of that) was supposed to be the whole lesson from this ordeal. Yet it seems as though people have learnt nothing. The reason this become such a big deal, wasn't because what the players did was the worst thing in cricket history. It wasn't. The reason it became so bad was because it deconstructed this idealized "holier than thou" image of the Australian Cricket team and exposed the reality to Australians that every other team and country already knew and saw... That they were no better than anyone else, in fact, in some aspects they were worse.
Only watched part 1 so far but... I think the claim that sledging /verbal attacks on players is an accepted part of cricket highlights a very Aussie centric view of the game. Its certainly not considered in the spirit elsewhere and has been a point of contention for decades. Maybe I have an England centric view but behaving like that has seen people dropped from sides I play for and skipper. The hubris of an Aussie side that has consistently claimed to define the line of what is and is not acceptable behaviour on the field in that SA series even before the sand paper was employed was hugely amusing. The complaints about press coverage, aggressive fans and being sledged on the pitch all sound very familiar. Essentially an Australian team were faced with exactly the same behaviours that touring sides faced when visiting Australia and imploded mentally. After years of giving it out, they couldn't take it when given back and it made the rest of the world laugh. Still onwards through this set of videos for me.
Bang on mate. Even after the events it's clear that this mindset is present, as illustrated by Tim Paine defending Warner and condemning de Kock in the same sentence when describing a sledging battle which Warner started.
What you are describing first showed itself to the world in 1995-1996 With Arjuna Ranatunga, Murali and the Sri Lankans. But this South African tour was when it finally reached boiling point and people finally dealt with this long lasting Australian Sporting cultural issue.
was thinking the same thing he makes it out to be that South Africa was the best in the World at every points and as if they weren't facing the same BS from their Sports Media and fans , lol that's professional sports today.
This is great. I think it's overly generous to David Warner, who has a *very* long history of abusing the opposition at all levels. If you live by the sword you die by the sword. It reminds me of the exchange with Sarwan where McGrath lost his rag because Lara said something about his wife (who was ill with cancer), but McGrath started it by making sexual innuendos. You can't have it both ways. You can't say, as it appears Warner does, I'm the arbiter of what is and isn't off limits for discussion (and I do know what the masks are about). It has always been my opinion (nothing else) that Warner was the drive behind sandpaper-gate. Steve Smith may have been very naive and foolish but he's never struck me as someone who would do *anything* to win (other than batting superbly of course !)
I believe that McGrath asked what Lara's d*** tasted like. The WI player replied he'd better ask his wife. McGrath started it but of course couldn't take it.
Make as many excuses for the behaviour of Smith and Warner as you like. They deserved harsher punishment, especially Warner. No bowler ever admitted any part in it and yet, it would be impossible for them not to know that the ball had been tampered with. The truth still needs to come out. Was this the only time, or was this just the first time they'd been caught?
What are your thoughts on the punishment for other ball tampering? Should all nations be treated equally or should Australia be punished more than the rest of the world? Is it hypocritical to target Australia or is it bigotry?
@@darshang1262 Do you think Pooran, Chandimal, Du Plesis, Philander and Du Plesis a second time should all have been suspended for 12 months like the Australians?
Hilarious that the editor / voiceover lists at the end of the video all the reasons why Warner and Smith were feeling the pressure before Cape Town, thereby causing them to go down the sandpaper route! There’s no excusing being Cheats!
However the South African players, fans, broadcasters had behaved on that series. It doesn't justify cheating. You can't handle the pressure then don't play.
Good content really enjoyed it, I do think the interpretation of Warner is very generous at best. Throughout his career he has had constant question marks about his character and yet he seems to almost made out to be the victim.
This documentary is being done by an Aussie, no surprise with how Warner is presented.😅. BTW, the cricket gods have judged him cuz both he and Smith can't find back that form.prior the ban
aaaaaaaah okay I wasn't aware that the South Africans were to blame for sandpapergate...my bad. Sincere apologies to the very sporting and respectable Aussies for causing you behave in a way that was completely understandable under such trying circumstances. For a moment I thought you were just making excuses for Smith and Warner's behavior. Feel terrible for causing such heartache and tears. Laughable! Is this guy for real? Oh I forgot he's an Aussie 😉
I can't understand how bowlers didn't know anything about it...truth needs to come out bowlers definitely knew about it and Aussie have been doing this a long time
The Trevor Chappell "underarm" delivery, Lillee kicking Javed Miandad, Lillee throwing his aluminium bat after being told he was not allowed to use it, the sledging to achieve mental disintegration of Steve Waugh's team.......and now this. I'm struggling to think of any other incidents involving the same team so consistently. This all points to a very unhealthy level of unsportsmanlike conduct at the highest level by Australian cricketers.
To listen them talk you would think butter wouldn’t melt. It was wrong of the South African team to hold the Australian players down and put that sandpaper in their pockets ... they should be sanctioned for it! 😂😂😂
Mints on the ball and sand in the pocket ring a bell? Don't throw stones in a glass house mate england taught the world cricket then taught the world how to cheat at cricket
1. its particularly rich for aussies to call fans from other countries the main villain. 2. davey's comments were harmless and relentless. 3. david had every right to be upset. 4. david is a saint :) LoL. 5. Paine said Australia did not cross the line. The line for an aussie is not the same as a line for a South African. Maybe QDK was going through a mentally tough phase and couldnt train, maybe someone in his family had anorexia, you dont know. how do you know something didnt trigger him? Its not harmless mate. 6. the best person on that cricket team was Usman Khwaja, was in red hot form, was the captain of the state side, but Tim Paine got chosen as the captain.
I believe we have the batsmen to do a job on the Aussies. My only worry is our bowling line up. Both Broad and Anderson are likely playing in their final ashes series, and could struggle with the demands of such a crucial series. Jack Leach will be a huge miss, as we lack a suitable replacement. I'm nervous, but not really afraid of the Aussies, but the first test will be crucial. Smith can take it away from us singlehandedly, if he is allowed to. Warner, is a bottler, as proved by his abstract failure last time out.
@@pleasantville4529 it’s all about if we can keep the blowers fit. If we can we will win this series. Interested to see if we go Mo or Ahmed think I’d go Ahmed
@@RyanMay94 I've no idea who will replace Leach bonny lad. I know the Aussies are struggling with injuries too, and they still have to face India in the test final. Stokes injury concerns me too, but we have back up in middle order. Will Birstow keep wicket? My guess is yes, but with him just returning from injury, I'd use him as a batsman only. So many questions, but it could be another epic series.
As an Englishman, i have to say that for some reason the Australian cricket team in most generations just seem so unlikable, there overt aggression, approach to the game and general demeanor, and dont think this is some natural English bias, or jealousy of some kind, we were thrashed for decades by the great West Indian teams, but i still hold the likes of Richards, Garner, and Holding in total awe and admiration of there class, put simply, the Aussie cricket team lacks class
Interesting to remember that it was a tour of Australia, where the Windies were very badly abused, that made Clive Lloyd (Now Sir Clive), tour the Caribbean Islands looking for for the tallest, fastest and best deliverers of a cricket ball that he could find! That’s where the Windies pace attack came from.....next tour of Oz and they destroyed Australia!
One has to remember that former South African captain was banned for life from all aspects of the game for accepting a few thousand dollars bribe. Many other international captains had done similar deeds. Poor old Hansie wasn’t even allowed to coach a primary school team. Steve Smith is still at it plodding awkwardly along even though he conjured up such a dastardly plan and was caught red handed. Amazing double standards!
The Supersport documentary is a completely different version, and probably more believable. Warner and Smith certainly weren't the victims like this video shows them as.
As an Aussie i have stopped watching the cricket since this happened. I will not watch Warner and Smith, should have been banned for life... Cheating scum.
It wasn’t cricket’s biggest ever controversy. It was Australia’s biggest ever cricket controversy. Ask any Saffer what, for them, was cricket’s biggest scandal and the first words out their mouth will be “Hansie Cronje”. Ask Pakistanis and it would be Lord’s 2010. It’s all relative. The sun doesn’t just shine for Aussies, mate. The real controversy is why Hansie was banned for life whereas these cheats were only suspended for a year. And, PUH-LEAZE! - there is no more hostile environment than playing in Australia.
It's highly possible that they did it in the 2017/18 Ashes series. Even if they did, we would have still lost that series and by a huge margin. We were useless.
The last country to have a ball tampering scandal only was a big deal because Australia hold these moves to a higher standard every other country hands out fines or one match bans for the same offence
I think that they should have a test series where virtually anything goes. Same for both sides. The umpires bring out sandpaper, polish, vaseline, tools for picking the seam etc. The captain can choose from that selection at any time, but can still only have a new ball after 85 overs, so, if they pick the wrong method of (legal) ball tampering, they could make the ball worse for bowling with. On a flat, batting-friendly pitch, it could be very interesting.
Great work brother. Love from India. One positive suggestion I will give is speak slightly slower. For a non native speaker it was bit difficult to understand but great video informative overall.
An example needed to be made by banning Smith and Warner from playing test cricket again. Banished to limited overs. With them both in the team today proves its all about the spinning of the turnstyles.
I'm shocked that they thought they could get away with it at least Eng in 2005 ashes played it smart with the sticky mints on the ball and nobody noticed and they got away with it until years later when a couple of England players fessed up to the cheating
The issue I have with this is it typically plays it as a weight on us and we finally made a mistake rather than a culture which had been going on for a while and stories of cheating in England and other series leading up to SA… I have no doubt that Smith was not the instigator of the issues but just happened to be the captain at the time and maybe not strong enough to stop the behaviour by Warner and some others
Stop making excuses for cheating. Every team faces constant sledging from Australian players whenever they play them. Our players give some back and the Ausies cry, perfect cry babies
What about the coach? A highly experienced former test player. You try to paint this pre-determined cheating as something else. Your former test player & WW2 fighter pilot Keith Mitchell summed it up perfectly when Michael Clarke whined about 'pressure', Mitchell said pressure is having a ME 109 up your backside. They chose to try to cheat the laws of the game, got caught & should never have been able to play again, end of.
Underarm, catches that were grounded, missing Sneddens catch, Aussie has always trod a fine line between playing hard and overstepping. This is simply cheating....
Do you mean like Faf du Plessus, or Sachin Tendulkar ball tampering in 2001 or Salim Malik or Mohammad Asif taking bribes and trying to lose games to win bets, or Rahul Dravid and Marcus Trescothick rubbing sticky mints on the ball to make it swing more?
got your own cheats that you lot view as gods. Tendulkar fyi. Least our awful board isn’t blatantly corrupt as the Indian one and punished the players. Indian fans man.
Recent years the Australian team has become a little better. But apart from the cheating bit, the Australian team has always had very less threshold in taking a sledge. Although they themselves don't think twice before going at players. India was one of the first who started giving them back. I have complete respect for warner and smith who have come back like champions. But I do feel that Australia sometimes take a bit too much pride in their own so called "Aussie Spirit" that they actually get blinded by it. No doubt they are and have been a much better team than india in the last two decades though
That’s not how you spell “experience” …. ! Is there anything or anyone else you can attempt to blame? They cheated …. End of story! Absolutely disgusting behaviour & totally unacceptable by ANY measure!
You forgot to mention the media coverage on Warner's taping around his whole hand in the second test match and how much he was sctuirinised for being the designated ball shiner.
I have no problem with the punishment given to the 3 Australian players for their roles in sandpaper gate. However I think to be fair, their actions need to be seen in context with what other teams were doing and getting away with previously. Here are but a few that have retreated to the shadows behind the sandpaper gate incident. 1. Mike Atherton (England captain) was caught rubbing 'dirt' he stashed into his pocket into the ball in an attempt to change its condition - result = after initial denials Atherton admitted guilt and received a 2000 pound fine with no suspension. 2. South African captain Faf DuPlessis on 2 occasions was found guilt of attempting to illegally alter the state of the ball using mints (England were guilty of this too in 2005 ashes) to shine / weight the ball, and on another occasion he used the zipper on his pants to scratch the ball up again no suspension fine only. Vernon Philander was fined for scratching the ball with his nails, Shahid Afridi found guilty of biting the ball to change its condition. All these players were found guilty and none received a ban. This just highlights the hypocrisy of the system that was too soft for too long. I wouldn't be surprised if Warner and Smith reckoned the worst they would face was a fine with no suspension. Boy were they wrong. Cricket Australia took a principled stand and said enough is enough - 1 year ban and massive fines. The toothless ICC wouldn't have done any more than they did in the cases listed above. So before people get on their high horses I'd suggest they look in their own back yard for ball tampering incidents that were punished by 50 lashes with a wet lettuce leaf.
Yet here you are STILL justifying it by drawing comparisons to other incidents. Are you telling me Australia were not using the same tactics in the 2005 Ashes series? Dream on pal
@@petittrainguernsey3297 Are you telling me England, South Africa and Pakistan, amongst others, haven't been doing the same for as long? Dream on pal. At least the Cricket Australia took responsibility unlike the rest of the holier than though countries #glasshouses
@@warrenharrison5052 You need to watch the ‘Crossing the line” doco. Then you’ll get some context. Sandpaper onto the field, hiding it down by yer ball bag. No one had done that before. Australian cricket had become toxic, especially on that tour. No amount of bleating on about other teams will ever justify the animosity shown by Australia to SA in those matches. And as usual the Aussies took it too far. Then cry about being found out. Boo de hoo hoo. Cheating crybabies who love to dish it out then can’t take it.
@ih3zi Why are Australians institutionally racist? I worked in Aus for many years and have never been anywhere that has such a massive chip on its shoulder. Get over yourself.
The amount of laughable excuses here is pathetic. They cheated there is no excuse they should all have been banned f9r life. It was any other factors lots of pro sports teams come under pressure only they don't cheat.. Smith, Starcross, Cummins, Bancroft, Warner, should all have been banned for life. End of, justifying this is just ridiculous.
This is pretty easy to sum up - The coulture of both OZ and India that win at all costs no matter what you did is very damaging Kohli of india is the epitomy of this. A massive failure in the cricket board of the country to instill Fail play and the spirt of ceicket values in players from club level on up. Next step was the selction of players that whilst very talented have no bussiness play international test cricket due to attitude Steve Smith is the example of this. The final step in the failing of OZ cricket baord was not to ban all 3 players involved from playing for OZ at international level for life. Any test match or other international that any of these cheats plays in should have an * attached as the result can never be fully trusted.
Interesting. It certainly leaves a question mark as to whether this sort of thing had gone on for years. Leaving their most celebrated players under suspicion. When all is said and done, criminality is literally in their DNA.
It wasn’t the tampering of the ball.. it was the damage of the Australian cricket brand .. reputation of Australians … that’s why the ban was lengthy …
I agree the s3ason before the ball was swinging around everywhere, and one of the bowlers, when interviewed said the English needs to learn how to play the swinging ball. Also if your a bowler you don't know the balls being Interfed with. around
The only people to blame in this instance were the Australian cricketers, you imply that if Supersport had not done their job, the Aussies would continue to "blur the lines"??!!
Funny thing is that compared to places like Pakistan and India which have been marred by much greater things like actual match fixing, this is pretty tame in comparison. Sandpaper gate in those countries would not even be frowned upon and would have been forgotten about in a week lol
Simple question!! Why is Warner in the Australia team. For heaven sake there are a lot of young kids who are great in country cricket and much honest and proud to play for Australia. Something and someone keeps him there. Sorry.
Yes, i can firmly say that it was not Australian team which cheated but it was SA. In reality this attitude of win at any cost was started by Captain Ricky Ponting. That attitude was taken forward by Michael Clarke and Smith until this test. Pat Cummins has really changed that. He has chaned team culture. Before that while Steve waugh's team was tough, they were fair enough as well. Unfortunately none of Austrailian blame ponting for this team culture.
This does a good job of showing the difference between playing for Australia and playing for other countries. This is something many casual viewers of Cricket don’t understand with reference to the recent events in the Ashes. Cricket is a contained sport in countries like England; the vast majority of the public are largely uninterested. It isn’t like Football, where everyone knows most top players, and the pressure is enormous. Cricket has a fanbase, but it’s very much a secondary sport, possibly not even that. Many of our fans who enjoy Cricket find ‘win at all costs’ to be unpalatable; it feels ugly and unnecessary to us, myself included. It’s Cricket, it’s good to watch, but winning isn’t the be-all and end-all. Losing is okay, we generally want to play well and enjoy it, but we don’t want to see arrogance and we struggle with seeing it as important enough to be cutthroat/cheat etc. A good example comes in the form of KP, he was an amazing player, but even an ounce of personality somehow made the English media, Cricket community, and even the England team, uncomfortable and he didn’t have the career he could have. Imagine if he was Australian, he would have been loved for his arrogance, given the chance to flourish, and he would have likely fit right in.
Funny how Mike Haysman an ex Aussie now an commentator saying the incessant unneeded chatter and sledging from Aus to specifically Markram was so bad he turned of his stump mic. It was bad to such a point that ja de Kock crossed a line, but that line had to be crossed. Sledging culture and bad manners ect is Aus. It's not their cricket culture it is them.
Man was just crying wiping tears and narrating the whole documentary. What a legend
I love they way you insinuate that South Africa/Proteas are to blame for Smith/Warner cheating. Typical!
Im pretty sure if any of our players had tampered with the ball. The Australians would have cried for much harsher punishments than the slap on the wrists they got
Ive also been to many tests at newlands. Our crowd is never hostile. The only hostility ive ever seen were by the barmy army
@@savgy17 "slap on the wrist"??? They got suspended for a full year, hardly a slap on the wrist
Typical convict mindset mate!
@@alexfisher777they did it for years. Slap on the wrist.
There is no way that Cape Town was the first time the Australians used sandpaper on the ball.
Prove it or rescind your comment ffs
They are the cheapest cheater and not a gentleman team
There is no way Australia was the only team. Indians did it. BCCI covered it up.
@@Nothing-kr5hn no tf it isn't, australia have a class basketball team second only to the US, we're also one of the best countries during the olympics, have an elite rugby team and ofc the best cricket team of all time.
@@brobros4950if you honestly believe that that was first time they did it you are delusional…. Starc’s incredible reverse swing all but Vanished after that match. They definitely did it before but they weren’t caught
Bancroft told the truth when he said the bowlers knew all about the ball-tampering. But Starc, Cummins, Lyon etc have got away scot-free.
And now media portrays Cummins as the golden boy as if he could do no wrong
Anyone who has played the game knows that each one of those bowlers had to know the ball was being tampered with.
Why would Lyon need to swing the ball?
@@WarCryAus
It's called drift for spinners
@@WarCryAus just peg it like Mullarthritharinatintin
One of the series that should've been mentioned was Australia's tour of India in 2017. There were incidents of bad behavior from both sides but Steve Smith looking up at the dressing room to get help with a DRS decision topped it off. He was labeled as a cheat but escaped any punishment. Had he been punished i doubt the SA saga would have happened.
I think that series probably deserves its own video. One of the best and most dramatic series of all time!
@@SBsportmedia Yeah we're waiting for it.
Wow mate I never thought of it like that but you’re right I bet he stops it if he was punished then
Please make one documentary on that series
keep crying loser
Please dont make Warner thr victim here and SA players, their supporters and the media the bad guys. australia does the sake thing at home and according to a many senior and respectable players like Graeme Smith, Warner has crossed the line many times. Great content but no sympathy should be shown to either Warner or Smith for cheating the game. I also remember Smith letting Hazlewood abuse the third umpire in a game against NZ for a right decision being given for NZ and also looking at dressing room for DRS against India. That aint no brain fade. Great content tbh but Warner and Smith are not victims.
so they were told prior to the 2017 ashes to tamper with the ball "if that's what it takes", but didn't until the following series? Given how much earlier than England they were getting movement in that ashes I think that's nonsense. They'd been cheating before they set down in South Africa
Keep crying. Every nation had been ball tampering for decades.
Cheaters only get labelled cheaters when they r caught, they couldve been doing all this for yrs but never got caught
@@jayansaini7093 Like England. Marcus Trescothick and Monty Panesar confessed in their Autobiography that England had been ball tampering their entire career but we're never caught.
Alistair Cooke was told by Mitch Starc what they were doing with the ball prior to that ashes series.
You took words out of my mouth. It's conjecture and not really worth doing post sandpaper gate but it would be interesting to rewatch that ashes series knowing what we know now. The pressure would have been highest for that series and in all probabilities where it started.
Really going out of your way to paint South Africa as the problem here rather than the Australian Team culture at the time... going out of your way to find excuses for Warner. Its the broadcasters, its the South African fans, it De Kock... so Tim Paine says de Kock said something so his word is gospel and justifies Warners on field behavior and comments which are simply brushed over? You're going a long way to paint Warner in as positive a light as possible, rather than what he is on the field... a prick. I thought the failures in team culture (Warner being a key part of that) was supposed to be the whole lesson from this ordeal. Yet it seems as though people have learnt nothing. The reason this become such a big deal, wasn't because what the players did was the worst thing in cricket history. It wasn't. The reason it became so bad was because it deconstructed this idealized "holier than thou" image of the Australian Cricket team and exposed the reality to Australians that every other team and country already knew and saw... That they were no better than anyone else, in fact, in some aspects they were worse.
Amen brother... to literally every word you said💯
Only watched part 1 so far but...
I think the claim that sledging /verbal attacks on players is an accepted part of cricket highlights a very Aussie centric view of the game. Its certainly not considered in the spirit elsewhere and has been a point of contention for decades. Maybe I have an England centric view but behaving like that has seen people dropped from sides I play for and skipper.
The hubris of an Aussie side that has consistently claimed to define the line of what is and is not acceptable behaviour on the field in that SA series even before the sand paper was employed was hugely amusing. The complaints about press coverage, aggressive fans and being sledged on the pitch all sound very familiar. Essentially an Australian team were faced with exactly the same behaviours that touring sides faced when visiting Australia and imploded mentally. After years of giving it out, they couldn't take it when given back and it made the rest of the world laugh.
Still onwards through this set of videos for me.
Wow it’s like you have less than no idea what you’re talking about hahaha stfu
Could not agree more, Aus have always toed the line between playing tough and cheating.
Bang on mate. Even after the events it's clear that this mindset is present, as illustrated by Tim Paine defending Warner and condemning de Kock in the same sentence when describing a sledging battle which Warner started.
What you are describing first showed itself to the world in 1995-1996 With Arjuna Ranatunga, Murali and the Sri Lankans. But this South African tour was when it finally reached boiling point and people finally dealt with this long lasting Australian Sporting cultural issue.
Its amazing how you can put a lot of unrelated snippets together to almost legitimise sandpaper gate
was thinking the same thing he makes it out to be that South Africa was the best in the World at every points and as if they weren't facing the same BS from their Sports Media and fans , lol that's professional sports today.
This is great. I think it's overly generous to David Warner, who has a *very* long history of abusing the opposition at all levels. If you live by the sword you die by the sword.
It reminds me of the exchange with Sarwan where McGrath lost his rag because Lara said something about his wife (who was ill with cancer), but McGrath started it by making sexual innuendos. You can't have it both ways. You can't say, as it appears Warner does, I'm the arbiter of what is and isn't off limits for discussion (and I do know what the masks are about).
It has always been my opinion (nothing else) that Warner was the drive behind sandpaper-gate. Steve Smith may have been very naive and foolish but he's never struck me as someone who would do *anything* to win (other than batting superbly of course !)
I believe that McGrath asked what Lara's d*** tasted like. The WI player replied he'd better ask his wife. McGrath started it but of course couldn't take it.
They were all in on it lets have it right !
The whole team knew, you are so naive
Make as many excuses for the behaviour of Smith and Warner as you like. They deserved harsher punishment, especially Warner. No bowler ever admitted any part in it and yet, it would be impossible for them not to know that the ball had been tampered with. The truth still needs to come out. Was this the only time, or was this just the first time they'd been caught?
What are your thoughts on the punishment for other ball tampering? Should all nations be treated equally or should Australia be punished more than the rest of the world? Is it hypocritical to target Australia or is it bigotry?
@@UmpireStrikesBack who ever commits a crime should be punished irrespective of gender,race,country etc
@@darshang1262 How much should they be punished? 1 or 2 matches which is normal, or 12 months like the Australians?
@@UmpireStrikesBack 12 months punishment was good
@@darshang1262 Do you think Pooran, Chandimal, Du Plesis, Philander and Du Plesis a second time should all have been suspended for 12 months like the Australians?
Hilarious that the editor / voiceover lists at the end of the video all the reasons why Warner and Smith were feeling the pressure before Cape Town, thereby causing them to go down the sandpaper route! There’s no excusing being Cheats!
Mate can you do one on how Germany needed to start both world wars? I’d love to see how you’d spin it to make them the victims
Yeah😂
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How about you stfu, grow a brain and read books rather than descend into a spiral of idiocy while mocking topics you have no idea about.
Germany didn’t even start WW1, they were just blamed for it becuase they did the most damage
However the South African players, fans, broadcasters had behaved on that series.
It doesn't justify cheating.
You can't handle the pressure then don't play.
5 world cups proves Australia can handle it....look elsewhere. 🖐️🏆🤣👍
@@AUmarcus 5 world cups..... makes one wonder how legit was the results in all those games.
@@AUmarcusAnd in 1999 Australia won a world cup without winning the semi-final. Like England not actually winning the 2019 final.
As an Aussie, I’ll be the first to admit that we can give but we can’t take it
@@meh9045 the auystralian public and media that is way similar to them kohli , harbhajan ,broad etc
Good content really enjoyed it, I do think the interpretation of Warner is very generous at best. Throughout his career he has had constant question marks about his character and yet he seems to almost made out to be the victim.
I wouldn't trust him with a bag of threepenny bits, he's toxic for that team.
He is a snake. If he was born anywhere else but NSW, the media would treat him like one.
This documentary is being done by an Aussie, no surprise with how Warner is presented.😅. BTW, the cricket gods have judged him cuz both he and Smith can't find back that form.prior the ban
I can't stand the guy!
aaaaaaaah okay I wasn't aware that the South Africans were to blame for sandpapergate...my bad. Sincere apologies to the very sporting and respectable Aussies for causing you behave in a way that was completely understandable under such trying circumstances. For a moment I thought you were just making excuses for Smith and Warner's behavior. Feel terrible for causing such heartache and tears. Laughable! Is this guy for real? Oh I forgot he's an Aussie 😉
I can't understand how bowlers didn't know anything about it...truth needs to come out bowlers definitely knew about it and Aussie have been doing this a long time
I have been saying this all along. The cover up was deep in this case and most of them are still playing today in the Ashes
How can a bowler not know that a ball has been doctored?
Of coursebthe bowlers knew, as a medium seamer you are working on the ball after every drlivery
The Trevor Chappell "underarm" delivery, Lillee kicking Javed Miandad, Lillee throwing his aluminium bat after being told he was not allowed to use it, the sledging to achieve mental disintegration of Steve Waugh's team.......and now this. I'm struggling to think of any other incidents involving the same team so consistently. This all points to a very unhealthy level of unsportsmanlike conduct at the highest level by Australian cricketers.
To listen them talk you would think butter wouldn’t melt. It was wrong of the South African team to hold the Australian players down and put that sandpaper in their pockets ... they should be sanctioned for it! 😂😂😂
Candice is also a slapper.
@@bobdrooples Now, now!! Let's leave classy (and also sad, misogynistic) comments like that to the Saffers.
Dont forget that test in Sidney where SA had to deal with pigeons at the batting crease while batting to distract them. Also poor sportsmanship.
Mints on the ball and sand in the pocket ring a bell? Don't throw stones in a glass house mate england taught the world cricket then taught the world how to cheat at cricket
1. its particularly rich for aussies to call fans from other countries the main villain.
2. davey's comments were harmless and relentless.
3. david had every right to be upset.
4. david is a saint :) LoL.
5. Paine said Australia did not cross the line. The line for an aussie is not the same as a line for a South African. Maybe QDK was going through a mentally tough phase and couldnt train, maybe someone in his family had anorexia, you dont know. how do you know something didnt trigger him? Its not harmless mate.
6. the best person on that cricket team was Usman Khwaja, was in red hot form, was the captain of the state side, but Tim Paine got chosen as the captain.
If you weren't aware, the Aussies own "the Line" and can place and move it wherever they please
This is set up to be the best ashes series ever. Hoping we win that urn back!
I believe we have the batsmen to do a job on the Aussies. My only worry is our bowling line up. Both Broad and Anderson are likely playing in their final ashes series, and could struggle with the demands of such a crucial series. Jack Leach will be a huge miss, as we lack a suitable replacement. I'm nervous, but not really afraid of the Aussies, but the first test will be crucial. Smith can take it away from us singlehandedly, if he is allowed to. Warner, is a bottler, as proved by his abstract failure last time out.
@@pleasantville4529 it’s all about if we can keep the blowers fit. If we can we will win this series. Interested to see if we go Mo or Ahmed think I’d go Ahmed
@@RyanMay94 I've no idea who will replace Leach bonny lad. I know the Aussies are struggling with injuries too, and they still have to face India in the test final. Stokes injury concerns me too, but we have back up in middle order. Will Birstow keep wicket? My guess is yes, but with him just returning from injury, I'd use him as a batsman only. So many questions, but it could be another epic series.
As an Englishman, i have to say that for some reason the Australian cricket team in most generations just seem so unlikable, there overt aggression, approach to the game and general demeanor, and dont think this is some natural English bias, or jealousy of some kind, we were thrashed for decades by the great West Indian teams, but i still hold the likes of Richards, Garner, and Holding in total awe and admiration of there class, put simply, the Aussie cricket team lacks class
Interesting to remember that it was a tour of Australia, where the Windies were very badly abused, that made Clive Lloyd (Now Sir Clive), tour the Caribbean Islands looking for for the tallest, fastest and best deliverers of a cricket ball that he could find! That’s where the Windies pace attack came from.....next tour of Oz and they destroyed Australia!
Sandpaper! It’s just Australians being ‘abrasive’, that’s all! 😂😂
This is obscenely biased. Couldn’t quite believe it. Call it a documentary but can’t be the slight bit impartial.
If Warner, and Smith were English, they would of never have played for England again, same with other countries.
One has to remember that former South African captain was banned for life from all aspects of the game for accepting a few thousand dollars bribe. Many other international captains had done similar deeds. Poor old Hansie wasn’t even allowed to coach a primary school team. Steve Smith is still at it plodding awkwardly along even though he conjured up such a dastardly plan and was caught red handed. Amazing double standards!
The Supersport documentary is a completely different version, and probably more believable. Warner and Smith certainly weren't the victims like this video shows them as.
Adam Goodes wasn't 'racially abused into retirement'. He was 35 and finished as a player.
Cheating in any professional sport should mean an immediate life ban.
As an Aussie i have stopped watching the cricket since this happened. I will not watch Warner and Smith, should have been banned for life...
Cheating scum.
It wasn’t cricket’s biggest ever controversy. It was Australia’s biggest ever cricket controversy. Ask any Saffer what, for them, was cricket’s biggest scandal and the first words out their mouth will be “Hansie Cronje”. Ask Pakistanis and it would be Lord’s 2010. It’s all relative. The sun doesn’t just shine for Aussies, mate. The real controversy is why Hansie was banned for life whereas these cheats were only suspended for a year. And, PUH-LEAZE! - there is no more hostile environment than playing in Australia.
It's highly possible that they did it in the 2017/18 Ashes series. Even if they did, we would have still lost that series and by a huge margin. We were useless.
What a superb content!loved it
The last country to have a ball tampering scandal only was a big deal because Australia hold these moves to a higher standard every other country hands out fines or one match bans for the same offence
Good vid mate. The volume was a bit quiet if you could bump it up for part 2 please. Cheets
I think that they should have a test series where virtually anything goes. Same for both sides. The umpires bring out sandpaper, polish, vaseline, tools for picking the seam etc. The captain can choose from that selection at any time, but can still only have a new ball after 85 overs, so, if they pick the wrong method of (legal) ball tampering, they could make the ball worse for bowling with.
On a flat, batting-friendly pitch, it could be very interesting.
What utter rubbish
Smith and Warner should have been banned for life.... It's a disgrace that they are still playing.
our behaivour got progressively worse from Ricky onwards and was never checked.
Great work brother. Love from India. One positive suggestion I will give is speak slightly slower. For a non native speaker it was bit difficult to understand but great video informative overall.
use subtitles.. wud be painfully boring if he spks slowr
Narrative behind this is INSANE ngl
An example needed to be made by banning Smith and Warner from playing test cricket again. Banished to limited overs. With them both in the team today proves its all about the spinning of the turnstyles.
It sickens me when the media and sycophants try comparing Smith to Bradman... should be compulsory life time ban from national team for cheating.
banned from all cricket they shouldn't even be allowed in stadiums
I'm shocked that they thought they could get away with it at least Eng in 2005 ashes played it smart with the sticky mints on the ball and nobody noticed and they got away with it until years later when a couple of England players fessed up to the cheating
They was using sandpaper well before they actually got caught.....
The issue I have with this is it typically plays it as a weight on us and we finally made a mistake rather than a culture which had been going on for a while and stories of cheating in England and other series leading up to SA…
I have no doubt that Smith was not the instigator of the issues but just happened to be the captain at the time and maybe not strong enough to stop the behaviour by Warner and some others
Yeah, I agree. I fully believe Warner was the mastermind behind this, and Smith was naive enough to go along with it.
Which grade of sandpaper do they prefer to use; coarse, medium or fine?
grinder
Stop making excuses for cheating. Every team faces constant sledging from Australian players whenever they play them. Our players give some back and the Ausies cry, perfect cry babies
i am fan of your filmmaking ability thoroughly adored every sec of it.
So it’s all South Africa’s fault 😂. I thought it’s just the Poms who are whiny.
Warner is being "Harrased" but is "Sledging". Nice distinction.
Truely a dark time in Korean history.
😂
Same old auzzies always cheating 🎶
It can't be helped it's in there DNA to cheat
What about the coach? A highly experienced former test player. You try to paint this pre-determined cheating as something else. Your former test player & WW2 fighter pilot Keith Mitchell summed it up perfectly when Michael Clarke whined about 'pressure', Mitchell said pressure is having a ME 109 up your backside. They chose to try to cheat the laws of the game, got caught & should never have been able to play again, end of.
Can you talk a bit louder or turn your mic up or something bro?
Do a video of the downhill of Sri Lanka cricket please
Do they forget when afridi literally tried to eat the ball 🤦🏼♂️
Wasn't exactly aiming to hide the fact, he was never the sharpest tool in the box
Great video, audio's a bit low though
Underarm, catches that were grounded, missing Sneddens catch, Aussie has always trod a fine line between playing hard and overstepping. This is simply cheating....
Love how shocked the PM was. I mean, a politician who can not imagine somebody trying to get an unfair advantage.
I wish there was download options too.. I wish to watch later
RUclips premium you can.
U can save the video to a watch later list 👍🏾
Alwas a cheating team here and there...This time they got caught.
Do you mean like Faf du Plessus, or Sachin Tendulkar ball tampering in 2001 or Salim Malik or Mohammad Asif taking bribes and trying to lose games to win bets, or Rahul Dravid and Marcus Trescothick rubbing sticky mints on the ball to make it swing more?
Cry more
got your own cheats that you lot view as gods. Tendulkar fyi. Least our awful board isn’t blatantly corrupt as the Indian one and punished the players. Indian fans man.
Toxic fan cry more
Recent years the Australian team has become a little better. But apart from the cheating bit, the Australian team has always had very less threshold in taking a sledge. Although they themselves don't think twice before going at players. India was one of the first who started giving them back. I have complete respect for warner and smith who have come back like champions. But I do feel that Australia sometimes take a bit too much pride in their own so called "Aussie Spirit" that they actually get blinded by it. No doubt they are and have been a much better team than india in the last two decades though
Poor Team Australia. Baited into cheating.
What a load of crap. They cheated because they are cheats. There’s no excuse for it
Just remember. It was a one off. The bowlers didn't know anything about it. They had never even thought of doing it before.
That’s not how you spell “experience” …. !
Is there anything or anyone else you can attempt to blame?
They cheated …. End of story!
Absolutely disgusting behaviour & totally unacceptable by ANY measure!
You forgot to mention the media coverage on Warner's taping around his whole hand in the second test match and how much he was sctuirinised for being the designated ball shiner.
So,what does sledging, and sanpaper have anything to do with sport?
Old habits die hard , yes the bairstow incident is within the rules but it's a very cheap way of getting a wicket.
I would rather Street smart.
I have no problem with the punishment given to the 3 Australian players for their roles in sandpaper gate. However I think to be fair, their actions need to be seen in context with what other teams were doing and getting away with previously. Here are but a few that have retreated to the shadows behind the sandpaper gate incident. 1. Mike Atherton (England captain) was caught rubbing 'dirt' he stashed into his pocket into the ball in an attempt to change its condition - result = after initial denials Atherton admitted guilt and received a 2000 pound fine with no suspension. 2. South African captain Faf DuPlessis on 2 occasions was found guilt of attempting to illegally alter the state of the ball using mints (England were guilty of this too in 2005 ashes) to shine / weight the ball, and on another occasion he used the zipper on his pants to scratch the ball up again no suspension fine only. Vernon Philander was fined for scratching the ball with his nails, Shahid Afridi found guilty of biting the ball to change its condition. All these players were found guilty and none received a ban. This just highlights the hypocrisy of the system that was too soft for too long. I wouldn't be surprised if Warner and Smith reckoned the worst they would face was a fine with no suspension. Boy were they wrong. Cricket Australia took a principled stand and said enough is enough - 1 year ban and massive fines. The toothless ICC wouldn't have done any more than they did in the cases listed above. So before people get on their high horses I'd suggest they look in their own back yard for ball tampering incidents that were punished by 50 lashes with a wet lettuce leaf.
Yet here you are STILL justifying it by drawing comparisons to other incidents. Are you telling me Australia were not using the same tactics in the 2005 Ashes series?
Dream on pal
@@petittrainguernsey3297 Are you telling me England, South Africa and Pakistan, amongst others, haven't been doing the same for as long? Dream on pal. At least the Cricket Australia took responsibility unlike the rest of the holier than though countries #glasshouses
@@warrenharrison5052
You need to watch the ‘Crossing the line” doco.
Then you’ll get some context. Sandpaper onto the field, hiding it down by yer ball bag. No one had done that before.
Australian cricket had become toxic, especially on that tour.
No amount of bleating on about other teams will ever justify the animosity shown by Australia to SA in those matches. And as usual the Aussies took it too far. Then cry about being found out.
Boo de hoo hoo. Cheating crybabies who love to dish it out then can’t take it.
@ih3zi Why are Australians institutionally racist?
I worked in Aus for many years and have never been anywhere that has such a massive chip on its shoulder.
Get over yourself.
all series as smith as captain should be stripped from Australia just like all tour de France were stripped off lance armstrong
Very interesting and important video. But your sound quality/level is very poor.
The cause, not really any cause to use sandpaper. Nice try though.
The amount of laughable excuses here is pathetic. They cheated there is no excuse they should all have been banned f9r life. It was any other factors lots of pro sports teams come under pressure only they don't cheat.. Smith, Starcross, Cummins, Bancroft, Warner, should all have been banned for life. End of, justifying this is just ridiculous.
What’s up with the audio, skipped
You should have mentioned the brain fade incident in 2017 india
Ja bey gandu har jaga gusna hai tm logo ko
This has to be first time I have heard anyone compare South African fans to Australians.
So South Africa is to blame for Australia cheating? 😂😂😂😂
Why you have so less subs man
Great explanation and analysis
This is pretty easy to sum up - The coulture of both OZ and India that win at all costs no matter what you did is very damaging Kohli of india is the epitomy of this. A massive failure in the cricket board of the country to instill Fail play and the spirt of ceicket values in players from club level on up. Next step was the selction of players that whilst very talented have no bussiness play international test cricket due to attitude Steve Smith is the example of this. The final step in the failing of OZ cricket baord was not to ban all 3 players involved from playing for OZ at international level for life. Any test match or other international that any of these cheats plays in should have an * attached as the result can never be fully trusted.
Smith and Warner should have never been allowed to play again...and let's be honest, no one likes Australia
Paine was the lowest point for AUS cricket - even amongst all their cheating.
And Rishabh Pant owned him in the best way possible at the Gabba '21.
@fours&sixes You should also do one for Micheal Atherton from 1994, against South Africa. Everyone just goes on about Steve Smith.
I was at Day 1 of the the 2016 Hobart Test.
How many times were they not caught cheating tho
Interesting. It certainly leaves a question mark as to whether this sort of thing had gone on for years. Leaving their most celebrated players under suspicion. When all is said and done, criminality is literally in their DNA.
It wasn’t the tampering of the ball.. it was the damage of the Australian cricket brand .. reputation of Australians … that’s why the ban was lengthy …
They 100% cheated against England in the Ashes before
I agree the s3ason before the ball was swinging around everywhere, and one of the bowlers, when interviewed said the English needs to learn how to play the swinging ball. Also if your a bowler you don't know the balls being Interfed with.
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The only people to blame in this instance were the Australian cricketers, you imply that if Supersport had not done their job, the Aussies would continue to "blur the lines"??!!
Funny thing is that compared to places like Pakistan and India which have been marred by much greater things like actual match fixing, this is pretty tame in comparison. Sandpaper gate in those countries would not even be frowned upon and would have been forgotten about in a week lol
Naah
We ban people for lifetime
Australia over England anyday ❤
Same old Aussies, always cheating.
Simple question!! Why is Warner in the Australia team. For heaven sake there are a lot of young kids who are great in country cricket and much honest and proud to play for Australia. Something and someone keeps him there. Sorry.
Yes, i can firmly say that it was not Australian team which cheated but it was SA. In reality this attitude of win at any cost was started by Captain Ricky Ponting. That attitude was taken forward by Michael Clarke and Smith until this test. Pat Cummins has really changed that. He has chaned team culture. Before that while Steve waugh's team was tough, they were fair enough as well. Unfortunately none of Austrailian blame ponting for this team culture.
This is a spoof documentary right? You’ve seen This is Spinal Tap?
The greatest wrong was that they got to play again shamefully.
This does a good job of showing the difference between playing for Australia and playing for other countries. This is something many casual viewers of Cricket don’t understand with reference to the recent events in the Ashes. Cricket is a contained sport in countries like England; the vast majority of the public are largely uninterested. It isn’t like Football, where everyone knows most top players, and the pressure is enormous. Cricket has a fanbase, but it’s very much a secondary sport, possibly not even that. Many of our fans who enjoy Cricket find ‘win at all costs’ to be unpalatable; it feels ugly and unnecessary to us, myself included. It’s Cricket, it’s good to watch, but winning isn’t the be-all and end-all. Losing is okay, we generally want to play well and enjoy it, but we don’t want to see arrogance and we struggle with seeing it as important enough to be cutthroat/cheat etc. A good example comes in the form of KP, he was an amazing player, but even an ounce of personality somehow made the English media, Cricket community, and even the England team, uncomfortable and he didn’t have the career he could have. Imagine if he was Australian, he would have been loved for his arrogance, given the chance to flourish, and he would have likely fit right in.
I still reckon it's goes further than the three blokes who took the fall
Same old Australians always cheating 👍🏼
Funny how Mike Haysman an ex Aussie now an commentator saying the incessant unneeded chatter and sledging from Aus to specifically Markram was so bad he turned of his stump mic. It was bad to such a point that ja de Kock crossed a line, but that line had to be crossed. Sledging culture and bad manners ect is Aus. It's not their cricket culture it is them.
9:02 I freaking knew it. Something came from above.