Why Is Sonichu Issue 0 An Absolute Catastrophe?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
  • In this video we will be talking about the Sonichu comic and what makes it unappealing.
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Комментарии • 132

  • @Harmonica821
    @Harmonica821 10 месяцев назад +417

    Seeing a man trying to objectively criticize Sonichu is like a fever dream.

    • @cartooncritique6625
      @cartooncritique6625 3 месяца назад +21

      I applaud him for his professionalism. I wouldn't have been able to critique this without laying into Chris for his delusional narcissism.

    • @BurloBrandoVonBando
      @BurloBrandoVonBando 3 месяца назад +1

      @@cartooncritique6625kick them while down?

    • @cartooncritique6625
      @cartooncritique6625 3 месяца назад +3

      @@BurloBrandoVonBando That doesn't apply when the person in question is perpetually basement-level.

    • @SuperUmizoomi
      @SuperUmizoomi 2 месяца назад

      @@cartooncritique6625 i mean wasnt cris chan originally just a guy making a kinda cringe comic and all the insanity came after people bullied him to hell and back over it?

    • @cartooncritique6625
      @cartooncritique6625 2 месяца назад +2

      @@SuperUmizoomi No. Given everything I've heard so far, this dude was messed up even before that...though the bullying likely didn't help.

  • @grimace9670
    @grimace9670 Год назад +677

    One of my favorite sonichu moments is when rosechu wakes up from being knocked out and asks the cliché line “what happened” EXCEPT unlike everything else sonichu ACTUALLY explains EVERYTHING that just happened in the previous page in a long winded long ass paragraph it’s a very underrated moment

    • @Cappuccino_Rabbit
      @Cappuccino_Rabbit Год назад +97

      Chris was indeed ahead of his time, deconstructing the amnesia trope, who needs that trope when you can use exposition dump

    • @opalyasu7159
      @opalyasu7159 Год назад +53

      I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone wake up from being unconscious and they pull the amnesia starter pack:
      Grimacing while holding their head in pain, followed by looking up and asking what happened

    • @reloadpsi
      @reloadpsi 2 месяца назад +13

      I just think it's funny that Chris didn't understand that if the audience was there for it, the post-amnesia info dump can take place off screen. Reading or hearing a long-winded summary of what you've just seen is kind of obnoxious.

    • @commercialairliner
      @commercialairliner 2 месяца назад +6

      What a subversive gem...

    • @remmurdydooM
      @remmurdydooM 2 месяца назад +6

      Always keep a friend who does a really long infodump when youre suffering amnesia

  • @togarashi6437
    @togarashi6437 3 года назад +564

    Have you read Rosechu's Story? It's a fan comic that retells Issue 0 in Rosechu's perspective (mostly episodes 2-3) and recontextualizes a lot of the questionable decisions made in the comic. It also gives Rosechu and Sonichu actual personalities. It was discontinued since Chris started to copy from it.

    • @alexi6648
      @alexi6648 Год назад +13

      They gave Chris permission

    • @hallows2729
      @hallows2729 Год назад +30

      Whoa, whoa, whoa.
      Whoa... whoa...
      ...It has fans?!
      XD

    • @dexstewart862
      @dexstewart862 Год назад +60

      ​@@hallows2729
      Whoa whoa whoa
      Whoa
      ...Whoa...whoa...
      ...whoa
      Lois, this is not my Batman glass!

    • @hallows2729
      @hallows2729 Год назад

      XD@@dexstewart862

    • @buringplumbranches
      @buringplumbranches 11 месяцев назад +5

      And the art is amazing

  • @paulblartmemecop7218
    @paulblartmemecop7218 Год назад +392

    If you approached Chris and gave him this critique, he would’ve just said “Hmm…I see” and curl into his hedgehog defensive state

    • @glitchyboi-nk1qv
      @glitchyboi-nk1qv Год назад +20

      Totally

    • @-._Radixerus_.-
      @-._Radixerus_.- 9 месяцев назад +50

      No, he would say "mmmm muhuh orkary mm..." and then start screaming like a boiling water pot at you

    • @sonicmojo
      @sonicmojo 7 месяцев назад +9

      Right after curse yee Yamahaaaas ing him!!! 😂

  • @DarkArtistKaiser
    @DarkArtistKaiser Год назад +190

    "One of the mistakes writers will do is thrust the readers into the action."
    I remember my writing teacher making a point to do that, cause in a era of gaming, internet, and etc, you must grab your readers attention asap. Tough that was like 10 years ago, so who knows.

    • @owenmurphy4635
      @owenmurphy4635 Год назад +20

      Berserk throws you into the action on page 1 well

    • @punishedbarca761
      @punishedbarca761 11 месяцев назад +47

      Thats only a good idea if you have the skill to characterize during the action. When a story begins with action and no character, the reader has no real reason to care. That can be a turn off for some readers.

    • @BlazeThyAfk
      @BlazeThyAfk 2 месяца назад

      @@owenmurphy4635nah they throw u into backshots page 1

    • @wolfgangervin2582
      @wolfgangervin2582 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@punishedbarca761The aforementioned Berserk does this quite well (although some prefer to start with the prequel Golden Age arc)

  • @IMachineHeadI
    @IMachineHeadI 8 месяцев назад +98

    I love the idea of criticising this comic series with actual like writer esque criticism

  • @ninavale.
    @ninavale. Год назад +175

    The fact this IS Chris's wishfulfilment/retcon fantasies is the main problem with this. Because a LOT of the things he mentions and things that happen only work when you know behind the scenes stuff. There's a chunk of stuff missing in-between bc Chris assumes that coming in you'll know the IRL events that inspired his stories. That you will know about his love-sings and his attempts to ask women out, that you will know who Mary Lee Walsh is and why she is bad. but what is most disturbing and delusional is that he expects people to know these things AND BE ON HIS SIDE. Like with Mary Lee Walsh. He expects readers to feel he'd been wrong when a Dean told him he can't just hang posters and hold signs asking girls to hook up with him and have a kid with him. same with the security guards...he expects people to see him as the one who was wronged when he got thrown out and banned from the mall for pretty much walking up to women and sexually harrasing them./

    • @SMCwasTaken
      @SMCwasTaken 11 месяцев назад +7

      I can kinda of relate to him a little bit when he made the principle look evil but yeah Chris Chan is a bad person

    • @localvega688
      @localvega688 8 месяцев назад +3

      I don't see a problem with the attraction signs. That said, looking back on what he did to that other "Boyfriend-free girl" I can only imagine what he would have done to a girl it worked on...

    • @athf4ever780
      @athf4ever780 8 месяцев назад +21

      @@localvega688no sane person would ever use signs the way Chris did to get with women

    • @localvega688
      @localvega688 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@athf4ever780 Perhaps but I meant aside from the signs not working.

  • @EsmeMarion
    @EsmeMarion 11 месяцев назад +92

    I mean... Thunder only has 75% accuracy unless it's raining, so maybe Sonichu missed ;P

    • @esbenm6544
      @esbenm6544 11 месяцев назад +8

      That seems to imply it is actively trying to hit you. I don't see how you can rate the accuracy of something that doesn't aim.

    • @FC_mania
      @FC_mania 10 месяцев назад +14

      Chris has a history of assuming everyone he speaks to knows the same information he does upon saying it, so youre probably correct.

    • @weuxj1
      @weuxj1 2 месяца назад +6

      No, he hit Chaos. Chris meant the Thunder attack took down Chaos's HP most of the way, and that one one attack should defeat him, which they do in the next two panels (not shown in the video, but it's really not conveyed well in the comic either so)

  • @HectorTheIsiac
    @HectorTheIsiac Год назад +82

    I'm trying to write a story, probably even make a manga out of it, and this was very helpful on what not to do when writing a story.

  • @HerrDeutschBlood
    @HerrDeutschBlood 11 месяцев назад +74

    Even with context, the Sonichu series as a whole still makes no goddamn sense and you can pretty surmise that this Chris Chan character, the supposed author of this series, is more or less a misguided, yet terrible individual with some rather off-putting wish fulfillment fantasies.

  • @cnk9822
    @cnk9822 10 месяцев назад +79

    "Renaming something about yourself and constantly saying that you are the creator sounds egotistical"
    Meanwhile Kojima with Metal Gear series: 🗿🗿🗿

    • @steele_heart77
      @steele_heart77 4 месяца назад +5

      Silent Hill, Death Stranding… the list goes on lol

    • @streakyanchovy
      @streakyanchovy 2 месяца назад +3

      The difference between Kojima/Stan Lee and Chris Chan is that Chris Chan isn't either of them.

  • @Lh0000
    @Lh0000 Год назад +60

    I have always been morbidly curious about this comic, never actually read it, but the maddening whispers tempt me to open its cursed pages and indulge in its depravity every time I hear the name “sonichu”

    • @The-Heavenly-Badger
      @The-Heavenly-Badger Год назад +13

      May God be with you if you actually start reading Soinchu .

    • @SMCwasTaken
      @SMCwasTaken 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@The-Heavenly-Badgerit's so bad it's good

    • @SMCwasTaken
      @SMCwasTaken 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@The-Heavenly-Badgerit's better than the Mona lisa

    • @cartooncritique6625
      @cartooncritique6625 3 месяца назад +8

      It'd be safer to read the Necronomicon. 😅

    • @Lh0000
      @Lh0000 3 месяца назад +5

      @@cartooncritique6625 yeah and probably more productive as well atleast the necronomicon could theoretically grant me dark magicks beyond understanding, somichu would just give me dementia

  • @MaytayMaya
    @MaytayMaya 5 месяцев назад +35

    I think a better example of a good comic with bad art is Tails Gets Trolled. That comic is littered with bad art and tons of typos but the story is genuinely interesting and the characters are well written.

    • @stevepensando2593
      @stevepensando2593 2 месяца назад +11

      The art is not actually that bad in a way. I have yet to find a drawing that captures half of the confused energy that Tails has in that iconic panel

  • @Reginald_Ritmo
    @Reginald_Ritmo 3 месяца назад +17

    In my opinion, the craziest thing about Sonichu the comic is that Sonic literally only appears the one time. In this timeline, I guess Sonic just kinda gave up after Sonic Adventure.

  • @weuxj1
    @weuxj1 2 месяца назад +13

    5:53 He meant they almost got him, like they almost defeated him. Sonichu's attack took down Chaos's health bar X amount and one more attack will finish him off.

  • @bluenderd
    @bluenderd 3 года назад +78

    It is a so bad it's good thing. The Issue 0 - 3 are bad in the "good" way. After that it went more down hill, well as much as Sonichu can go downhill.

    • @spudartz
      @spudartz 2 года назад +8

      lmao what about the latest sonichu issues they are REALLY bad

    • @eggflaireon7918
      @eggflaireon7918 Год назад +9

      The series is like that till issue 10 issues 11 - 12.9 are complete garbage, issue 13 was ok I guess, and I don't care about the comics past issue 13 because they managed to be worse than 11 - 12.9

    • @SMCwasTaken
      @SMCwasTaken 11 месяцев назад +2

      It's so bad it's good

    • @localvega688
      @localvega688 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@SMCwasTaken It's so bad it's a cognitohazard. ⚠

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 6 месяцев назад +3

      9/10 are unironically hilarious.

  • @GuineaPigDan
    @GuineaPigDan Год назад +44

    Wow, this video was posted just a few weeks before the incestchu scandal and Chris Chan’s arrest broke. That whole speech about why jerkops shouldn’t stop Chris Chan’s love quest now comes off much darker and is basically a villain origin speech. Chris Chan had a very self entitled view on relationships and is why the “romance” between Sonichu and Rosechu lacks any depth.

  • @esbenm6544
    @esbenm6544 11 месяцев назад +30

    A catastrophe to other artists maybe, who will forever toil in the shadow of this masterpiece.

  • @andrewjoslyn3523
    @andrewjoslyn3523 9 месяцев назад +22

    “Jerk Opp” an opportunity to be a jerk.

  • @dexstewart862
    @dexstewart862 Год назад +21

    This reminds me of when Linkara talks about a Youngblood comic.

  • @Ghost-ul8eu
    @Ghost-ul8eu 11 месяцев назад +27

    Trying to read Sonichu is like trying to decipher the journal of a madman.I have only been able to read snippets of this crap.Also without understanding the context of Chris Chans life you wont understand half of the characters.Its also really boring to sure you have the stuff about the trolls which is pretty funny,but most of the comic sucks and is hard to decipher.

    • @cartooncritique6625
      @cartooncritique6625 3 месяца назад +3

      No trying about it. It's literally the journal of a madman...in comic book form.

    • @G-Cole-01
      @G-Cole-01 2 месяца назад +1

      considering how chris kept putting real life events from his perspective into it, it basically _is_ the journal of a madman

  • @Patolagos
    @Patolagos 11 месяцев назад +35

    It'd be funny if there was a ""reanimated"" project for Sonichu 0

    • @ArminAwesome
      @ArminAwesome 2 месяца назад +4

      There is. Because the internet is insane

    • @Danube-TV
      @Danube-TV 13 дней назад

      ​@@ArminAwesomewhere can i find it?

    • @ArminAwesome
      @ArminAwesome 13 дней назад

      @@Danube-TV just search for Sonichu Remake.

  • @NitoriousPickler
    @NitoriousPickler 5 месяцев назад +7

    6:06, when he said "almost got him" I think meant they almost took him down

  • @monkeistheworstyoutuberever
    @monkeistheworstyoutuberever Год назад +68

    ian really ruined the comic

    • @carp2567
      @carp2567 Год назад +38

      MY NAME IS NOT IAN BRANDON SOMETHING

    • @SwellHedgehog
      @SwellHedgehog Год назад +21

      MY NAME IS NOT IAN BRANDON ANDERSON!!!

  • @Imnothekidyouknowhatimean
    @Imnothekidyouknowhatimean Год назад +24

    The whole comic is an Absolute catastrophe

  • @RacerC45
    @RacerC45 Год назад +19

    Are you going to cover the rest of the Sonichu comics?

  • @kingwolfie0849
    @kingwolfie0849 3 месяца назад +5

    is it weird that i now just realized that the design on chris cans sonichus forms neck, is supposed to look like the sonichu medallion chris chan always wears?

  • @animationunlimited2958
    @animationunlimited2958 2 месяца назад +2

    36:45 I am getting really strong Elliot Rogers vibe from that line!

  • @SleepyLuigi
    @SleepyLuigi 7 месяцев назад +3

    7:56 you fool! You know sonic “f**king dies” when jumping out of an airplane after forgetting his parachute.

  • @AkiraLionPilot
    @AkiraLionPilot 2 месяца назад +3

    10:02 the green is from where the yellow on the lettering got in contact with the blue on the background. That definitely wasn’t intentional

  • @vampirecount3880
    @vampirecount3880 3 месяца назад +4

    16:30
    Oh poor David the Dragonite.
    He was just too big :(

  • @coolculttaylah452
    @coolculttaylah452 2 года назад +12

    I just came across this channel and im already starting to love it! don't forget me when you become big!

  • @tinfoilslacks3750
    @tinfoilslacks3750 2 месяца назад +4

    Sonichu is so weird because Chris really made it a defining element of his life and persona, but there's in reality only like 200ish pages of Sonichu total, written in a time period of about 5 years, half of which is about either Chris' personal life or his online escapades. Nonetheless Sonichu is a defining element of CWC 20 years later, even as we still haven't gotten issue 11.

    • @VentrexTheXVth
      @VentrexTheXVth Месяц назад +1

      It's an accurate measure of how much effort Chris put into his life

  • @theotherther1
    @theotherther1 13 дней назад +1

    "MY SOUL HURTS!" My brain hurts after watching this!

  • @Kh-bs7mg
    @Kh-bs7mg 10 месяцев назад +13

    Its not as bad as people say.
    Its worst.

  • @NAYOBULL
    @NAYOBULL 7 месяцев назад +4

    Honestly Chris chan being self inserted as an actual character is far better than if he was just projecting onto sonichu.

  • @burnum
    @burnum 2 месяца назад +2

    Not sure what is worse
    This, or the thing that Penders made....The Lara-Su Chronicles

  • @alarictheredboi276yearsago4
    @alarictheredboi276yearsago4 2 месяца назад +1

    Seeing this video appear in my recommended has caused me to go insane.

  • @cartooncritique6625
    @cartooncritique6625 3 месяца назад +2

    37:02 I mean Chris IS Mentally unstable and searching for love. 😂

  • @spiderzilla7o7
    @spiderzilla7o7 2 месяца назад +2

    This is the OG webtoon

  • @terra_games
    @terra_games 2 месяца назад +1

    0:20 bro got a lot of Legos there

  • @BlueMageWithSoulEdge
    @BlueMageWithSoulEdge 2 месяца назад +1

    You need to do Linkara's Light Bringer.

  • @MatecaCorp
    @MatecaCorp 3 месяца назад

    This analysis is really interesting to me on a personal level. I read the comic well after I knew most of the meta stuff, so I always looked at it as a part of CWC’s real story rather than as a comic.

  • @jaydenfolley
    @jaydenfolley 2 месяца назад +2

    The sonichu comics aren't even as bad as people say, they're worse

  • @inkbagz3455
    @inkbagz3455 2 месяца назад

    I love that the whole internet will not let this comic just be forgotten by time, it's sort of beautiful

  • @nivekzepolofficialmusic
    @nivekzepolofficialmusic Год назад +2

    This was a good analysis, I hope you can do a video about issue 1 and issue 3

  • @tf2sniper536
    @tf2sniper536 3 месяца назад

    1:45 someone show this man a recent opm chapter

  • @xrryeet7326
    @xrryeet7326 2 месяца назад +1

    the way Rosechu is written is kind of misogynist it's kind like calling a girl a dish washing machine it seemed very stereotypical with shopping and cooking which is a common female stereotype

  • @stillbuyvhs
    @stillbuyvhs 2 месяца назад

    The first episode doesn't sound that bad. Some problems, sure, but about on par with Mighty Mouse. The second & third also sound ok, in a sort of Saturday morning, adventure serial, pulp magazine sort of way. With better art I could see these as semi-popular fan comics. The last story sounds like a more disturbing version of Fletcher Hanks.

  • @moldybutterstick
    @moldybutterstick 3 года назад +4

    Ayy another vid

  • @e2011ugdia
    @e2011ugdia 4 месяца назад

    3:32 its a mispelling

  • @peterwallis4288
    @peterwallis4288 9 дней назад

    Hang on, maybe Chris is portraying himself as a Catholic priest, not the dad of Sonichu.

  • @feelgoodink5005
    @feelgoodink5005 3 года назад +2

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  • @onlyyoucanstopevil9024
    @onlyyoucanstopevil9024 8 месяцев назад

    FAR WORST THAN MARS OF DESTRUCTION😂😂😂

  • @UltimatePerfection
    @UltimatePerfection 2 месяца назад

    ...

  • @rinoz47
    @rinoz47 Месяц назад +1

    0:10 w-what?

  • @mateosalazar5766
    @mateosalazar5766 7 дней назад

    So basically you don’t have any prior knowledge on the subject but you still want to profit from a topic that’s easy to clickbait

    • @daraghokane4236
      @daraghokane4236 4 дня назад

      You don't need any of that the book stands by itself

  • @mr.coolio1307
    @mr.coolio1307 3 месяца назад

    This review gets pretty nitpicky to be honest.

  • @adrianaslund8605
    @adrianaslund8605 Год назад +9

    The Jerkop tried to kill him though. We already do ruin the lifes of people like that in real life. And most people are ok with that. Im not sure I am. But alot of people are.

    • @eggflaireon7918
      @eggflaireon7918 Год назад +45

      Stop trying to sound deep and philosophical about a man child's self insert power fantasy comic because there literally is no meaning

    • @carolinecarella7526
      @carolinecarella7526 Год назад +1

      Sorry, but you obviously didnt know him much.
      This guy run over an innocent man , touching girl wo consent, macing another innocent man, and moles his own mom.
      Those events are wo troll influence at all.
      And oh, hes also very racist and at one point he make a joke about twin tower

    • @SMCwasTaken
      @SMCwasTaken 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@eggflaireon7918relax it's really not that deep

  • @saadsami8860
    @saadsami8860 2 месяца назад

    1:53 opm still a mid story though