Don’t count Kelce out even at 35 yos. When the time comes Kelce will be beasting per usual. It’s scary that KC rarely used Kelce so far and they’re 3-0.
The Chiefs are purposefully limiting Kelce, in order to keep him fresh for the playoffs, AND to extend his career another season or two. Move along folks, nothing to see here
I'm a chiefs fan watched every game for the last 5 years. That is not what's happening he is old and slowed down, Chiefs could easily be 0-3 there's no "saving" Travis for playoffs happening...
Mahomes was at the US Open with Kelce. This is the stupidest argument. I've heard. They're winning with Kelce getting such low catches. And as much as it's true Kelce is Mahomes safety blanket, Kelce isn't going to play beyond another 2 or 3 years. Mahomes needs to be able to lean on other players. And he's shown he can do that. Wait for the playoffs. This is three games in ffs
Yea he’s older but I don’t think it’s even about because he’s older , it’s more about what Patrick said, he’s pretty much locked up on every other play , and plays he’s open , either someone else is more open , or Patrick is rushed
Which only matters because he’s older. You act like teams haven’t fouble covered this guy for the last 4 years. they have. he used to be able to beat it anyway. 35 year old, not as motivated him can’t. the age is exactly why the coverage matters. and Worthy needs a better route tree. he’s all over the place
Andy Reid is an elite play caller… look at the play to ice the game in the AFC championship a deep shot to their worst playmaker… and it wasn’t a perfectly thrown ball. It’s crazy a prospect no one had on their roster is getting more credit than the play caller and HC that has had success with every QB he has had
Let’s not forget that defense play it’s part but Chiefs isn’t explosive and scoring 40 points. That offense is declining slowly and not getting big plays with easy
@@jmar385 this is why I say Andy Reid play calling is the reason for their success… Mahomes is on record saying he didn’t know how to read a defense. After winning a SB.
I am not worried about Kelce he is being double or triple-teamed almost every play and we saw when the Falcons peeled off of him he started ripping into them. Also Rice is proving himself as a great WR and Worthy has a lot of potential not to mention the reliable JuJu is back.
Dear comments PM literally just said he's getting doubled or tripled and most of his passes hasn't been accurate when targeting kelce. Film is a huge thing a lot of you forget about
No one would be having this conversation if the big play in the last game Kelce had didn't get called back for an OL penalty. I get it that these news shows have to have 'something' to talk about, but Kelce will be just fine.
Hasn't the league been double/triple teaming Kelce since last year? My bet is he's saving his tricks and health for the playoff run and letting the rookies get their reps and confidence built up. Y'all ain't giving the same energy critiquing why Joe Burrow is 0-3 again and Lamar is 1-2.
Wooooooooooowwwww that's what we doing to Kelce now . How much do they need him sports debates is ridiculous at this point considering he helped them win three Superbowls 😂😂😂
They aren’t dropping the ball like last year. So he ain’t forcing Travis the ball more. If worthy learns to run routes it would help. And if rice keeps it up they are going to have to double him and it will get kelce more free
This is stupid pat been throwing for only 150 yards and missing guys he targeted kelce twice a game even tho he is open most of the plays yall creating this narrative for the media just because he dating Taylor tf you care about his offseason this man been in kc Vince the season started
I mean Kelce is about 35? That’s around the age tight ends fall off… doesn’t mean he can’t be a contributor to another playoff run but the days of Kelce getting 50-70 yards a game are over
Stephen A, stop talking about all the drops from last year, from guys who aren't on the team anymore. Rashee Rice is on pace for over 1000. Worthy is picking up the offense more each week. The ground game is quietly humming (Carson Steele had over 4 yards a clip against Atlanta). And we haven't gotten Hollywood on the field yet. Pacheco won't be back until Thanksgiving. The defense is standing up when they need to. And the team is undefeated. They are fine. Quit using last season's issues as an argument for urgency this season. We're 20 percent of the way through.
I think it’s worth wondering if that’s their full on gameplan or if they wanna incorporate Kelce harder in the playoffs. Then again the brown injury threw off whatever offseason plan we had sadly.
This is why I hate narratives about productivity when it comes to receivers/tight ends. Mahomes has not been playing well and has a bunch of ugly throws in these games so far, and he’s also paying more attention to Worthy and Rice. Travis can’t help but go and run his routes and do his job. It’s a Mahomes/offensive scheme problem, not a Kelce problem but now, as expected, they’re gonna blame his personal life for the “fall off”
Kelce: Says that teams double and triple cover him making it harder for him to make plays. And is being used as a blocker more. Talking heads: Where's Kelce? He needs to be sent out to pasture
Is Kelce in his prime still? Of course not. But to act like he’s useless is absurd. Just by the way defenses are still prioritizing defending him, Rice and co are getting more space on the field to do damage. The minute they single cover Kelce to have to account more for others Kelce’s numbers will suddenly tick up.
This is one of the worst shows on TV! Two idiots yelling back and forth. The Chiefs HAVE NOT NEEDED him to carry the offense. They’ve run the ball effectively, Rice has emerged as the #1 pass catching option, and the defense is keeping them in every game. Teams are treating Kelce like the offense has nobody else to hurt them. Once teams adjust and start focusing on Rashee it’ll open up Travis and he’ll start feasting. They aren’t forcing him the ball because they aren’t stupid! He was also hurt all last season and played through it. Players always start slow the year they come back from injury especially well into your mid 30s…
What a ridiculous question! Of course we need him! He keeps getting double and triple teamed to open up the other receivers. That guys a stud and still plays his heart out!!
Mad dog should stfu they got permission to go and if he would choose his woman first she invited him he went and if you watch the us open both him and pat was watching the games on his phones
All of that has to be distracting. Not to mention he's making huge money off the field. That being said, I don't question his pride. Hopefully, they get him more involved.
They are pacing him because they need him healthy and hes getting older. They are allowing the newer players to get use to the plays and how the games work in real time. He is helping prepare the team and organization for when he retires.
Can somebody please talk about the fact that Kelce has also been picking up blocks as the chiefs work to get the left tackle position figured out? He's still a TE not a WR.
Kelce is getting double covered. Which means without even catching the ball he is taking 2 defensive players out of the play. that by definition is not only doing something but is still making a significant impact. It just doesn't show up in the stats.
If a 40 yd pass play to Kelce hadnt been wiped away by a stupid holding call against Bengals, this conversation/debate would not even be occuring. Kelce is gonna get his Alright Now!!!
lol I rock with Kelce but I’m not putting him on another parlay this season buddy barley getting 30-40 yards a game right now. Mahomes just got to many weapons now
Is that man on a delerious dementia trip shouting about going to watch Tennis on a short bye, when Mahomes was steps away from him doing the same. But that ain’t an issue. Say that he might slow down because of age, say that he has looked a bit off in the three first games. Fine. But don’t be so freakin old that you are using the 50’s old ”that woman is a distraction” or what he does in the summer. Just because you can see it in tabloids. Like that is an issue compared to all the players getting caught street racing, for animal cruelty or SA accusations, or that might be doing the exact same things. Just not under a microscope like Kelce. That man is embarrassing himself with bis takes. I get it, cool to provoke, but at least sound smart doing it.
the question is do they need him to be great no do they need him to be healthy do they need him t be great and as long as patrick mahomes is helathy and as long as somebody other than travis kelce shows up shich they have the chiefs can win the sb regardless
Patrick Mahomes:” Travis draws in 2-3 people, so it leaves other guys open.” This a Dum question. If Travis wasn’t good he wouldn’t draw in 2-3 guys. The other receivers are solid. And all yall really talking about this. Smh.
I think Patrick is just rushing passes because he has basically a non-proven LT and a Run-blocking RT protecting him. Once the tackles have more game experience, i'm sure Patrick will be much more willing to allow Kelce to run his routes.
Idk why we slandering Travis now, He’s been the BEST TE for almost the last decade now, yall can say Gronk too but if it’s one thing Kelce has had over Gronk is durability, Kelce hardly was ever out. Kelce is bound to slow down at some point, plus if they’re winning despite this, KC really has a good chance at 3 peating. And this coming from a Falcons fan
Who is that guy? Is he the inspiration for Leo Gets, or did he come straight from the 70's? Edit: I'm a Chief fan since the early 80's. If he's a Chief hater... I still like him. He's fun to listen to.
All season long, yes because he's never won a Super Bowl without Kelce being great. This isn't a Brady situation where he's won without Gronk or any star pass catcher. Love Mahomes to death, but he hasn't, so I struggle to say he can when I haven't seen it
With the failure of Chiefs front office for years to provide Mahomes with a WR core that puts any real fear into defenders, Kelce can be the focus of secondaries who can zone, double and triple team him. Until Chiefs' WR's prove they can get open and force a double team, opponents will continue to focus on Kelce. Utter disgrace to have Toney and Scanting as starters last season.
"i ran every route like you wouldn't believe" 😂
He sounds literally like trump, it's uncanny. 😊
@@jdbraves88 I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY THAT
Sounds like Trump🤣
Mad dog is hilarious. He got me crying over here.
That’s my boy…he should be on First Take period. Everyday!..
Man’s called her Taylor fritz 🤣🤣
He said I can be the receiver and Jeff can coach 🤣🤣🤣
Taylor Fritz?? Dude is corney. I bet he still reads the daily newspaper(the physical print copy) and subscribes to magazines.
Really? I skipped forward when that guy is talking.
"Kelce can't block". Kelce blocks extensively in the first three games. "WhY iSN'T kElcE geTtInG 100 yArDs?" 🤡
Ya'll forget Kelce is 35 and has been in the league for over a decade. Father time comes for everyone eventually.
Who are you directing this towards? Who is forgetting dude is 35?
More like party time.
Everyone duhh. Stop acting stupid@@bryanh2898
Don’t count Kelce out even at 35 yos. When the time comes Kelce will be beasting per usual. It’s scary that KC rarely used Kelce so far and they’re 3-0.
He’s as old as Gronk, and Gronk been retired twice already
The Chiefs are purposefully limiting Kelce, in order to keep him fresh for the playoffs, AND to extend his career another season or two. Move along folks, nothing to see here
No they not u clearly don’t watch the games
Saying anything… the opposing teams are doubling him plus I do think wear and tear is catching up with him
I'm a chiefs fan watched every game for the last 5 years. That is not what's happening he is old and slowed down, Chiefs could easily be 0-3 there's no "saving" Travis for playoffs happening...
@@mitchelwoods7387you're retarded. Kelce is not slowing down lmao. He's being double and triple teamed.
Bruh this ain’t basketball
Mahomes was at the US Open with Kelce. This is the stupidest argument. I've heard. They're winning with Kelce getting such low catches. And as much as it's true Kelce is Mahomes safety blanket, Kelce isn't going to play beyond another 2 or 3 years. Mahomes needs to be able to lean on other players. And he's shown he can do that. Wait for the playoffs. This is three games in ffs
actually,Mahomes can throw it and catch it himself. watch the Ravens game.☝🏾
Yea he’s older but I don’t think it’s even about because he’s older , it’s more about what Patrick said, he’s pretty much locked up on every other play , and plays he’s open , either someone else is more open , or Patrick is rushed
Which only matters because he’s older. You act like teams haven’t fouble covered this guy for the last 4 years. they have. he used to be able to beat it anyway. 35 year old, not as motivated him can’t. the age is exactly why the coverage matters. and Worthy needs a better route tree. he’s all over the place
Yes they need Travis 100%
They said Mahomes needed Tyreek to be good too 🤷♀️
The chiefs defense and Pacheco have made the difference the past two years
That’s a fact
Andy Reid is an elite play caller… look at the play to ice the game in the AFC championship a deep shot to their worst playmaker… and it wasn’t a perfectly thrown ball. It’s crazy a prospect no one had on their roster is getting more credit than the play caller and HC that has had success with every QB he has had
Let’s not forget that defense play it’s part but Chiefs isn’t explosive and scoring 40 points. That offense is declining slowly and not getting big plays with easy
@@jmar385 this is why I say Andy Reid play calling is the reason for their success… Mahomes is on record saying he didn’t know how to read a defense. After winning a SB.
Trav gone cut it on when we need him he just gotta pace himself it’s a long season
no he isnt.
I am not worried about Kelce he is being double or triple-teamed almost every play and we saw when the Falcons peeled off of him he started ripping into them. Also Rice is proving himself as a great WR and Worthy has a lot of potential not to mention the reliable JuJu is back.
Dear comments PM literally just said he's getting doubled or tripled and most of his passes hasn't been accurate when targeting kelce. Film is a huge thing a lot of you forget about
Thank you they just hope he is
Coach Reid said it, "People say he's lost a step, or that he's not focused... defenses don't think that" 😂
No one would be having this conversation if the big play in the last game Kelce had didn't get called back for an OL penalty. I get it that these news shows have to have 'something' to talk about, but Kelce will be just fine.
Hasn't the league been double/triple teaming Kelce since last year? My bet is he's saving his tricks and health for the playoff run and letting the rookies get their reps and confidence built up. Y'all ain't giving the same energy critiquing why Joe Burrow is 0-3 again and Lamar is 1-2.
that screaming old man is lame
Wooooooooooowwwww that's what we doing to Kelce now . How much do they need him sports debates is ridiculous at this point considering he helped them win three Superbowls 😂😂😂
11:36 “He ain’t the one on ESPN Bet commercial”😂
they had to get that in there 🤣🤣
They aren’t dropping the ball like last year. So he ain’t forcing Travis the ball more. If worthy learns to run routes it would help. And if rice keeps it up they are going to have to double him and it will get kelce more free
This is stupid pat been throwing for only 150 yards and missing guys he targeted kelce twice a game even tho he is open most of the plays yall creating this narrative for the media just because he dating Taylor tf you care about his offseason this man been in kc Vince the season started
I mean Kelce is about 35? That’s around the age tight ends fall off… doesn’t mean he can’t be a contributor to another playoff run but the days of Kelce getting 50-70 yards a game are over
That’s crazy lol Travis will have 50 yard games 😭😭😭 he’s not in a wheelchair
@@yungjoka5962 I said he’s not doing that every single game anymore
Atleast he always show up in post season tho that’s all that really matters
It's not that lol he getting double and triple teamed every play
Look at other guys his age that are out of the field or fell off a cliff, Julio Jones is 35,
Jesus, maybe teams are actually covering him. I never understood why he wasn't defended like a wr1
Do they need his presence on the field for the respect factor like Pat said: yes do they need him to be elite? No
people are forgetting Gronk in the 2018 season wasn't doing as well and then came clutch in the postseason; the same applies to Kelce
"Distraction" equals envy...I would switch places with Kelce in his free time in a heartbeat LOL
Stephen A continues to give horrid takes. Bro is the new Skip Bayless
He is ESPN deal with it 😂
Kelse is running diversion staying fresh and letting these young guys get reps. Come playoffs it’ll be rolling.
Since 2022 the chiefs have won 23 games by 7 points or less. This is who they are with or without Travis they are a team that plays close games.
Stephen A, stop talking about all the drops from last year, from guys who aren't on the team anymore. Rashee Rice is on pace for over 1000. Worthy is picking up the offense more each week. The ground game is quietly humming (Carson Steele had over 4 yards a clip against Atlanta). And we haven't gotten Hollywood on the field yet. Pacheco won't be back until Thanksgiving. The defense is standing up when they need to. And the team is undefeated. They are fine. Quit using last season's issues as an argument for urgency this season. We're 20 percent of the way through.
He doesn’t watch the games lol
This topic is stupid , Rashee Rice clearly has taken over as the Slot option for them . He's one of the best slots in the league
I think it’s worth wondering if that’s their full on gameplan or if they wanna incorporate Kelce harder in the playoffs. Then again the brown injury threw off whatever offseason plan we had sadly.
Rashee getting single coverage all game because of kelce. Without kelce, it’s Rashee getting doubled all game and it’ll be JuJu who’s have to eat…
This is why I hate narratives about productivity when it comes to receivers/tight ends. Mahomes has not been playing well and has a bunch of ugly throws in these games so far, and he’s also paying more attention to Worthy and Rice. Travis can’t help but go and run his routes and do his job. It’s a Mahomes/offensive scheme problem, not a Kelce problem but now, as expected, they’re gonna blame his personal life for the “fall off”
10:07 "YOU guys are nuts"..."YOUR NUTS"..😂
SA and mad dog so funny together😂😂
They’ll need him in the playoffs. Regular season probably not as much.
The only people that care about his "slow start " are fantasy owners.
Leave Taylor alone
No ones work production goes down due to dating! Stop this trope! He ain’t open. In a few weeks he’ll find the ball and it will balance out.!
Kelce knows when he needs to go full speed and full power playoffs
Kelce: Says that teams double and triple cover him making it harder for him to make plays. And is being used as a blocker more.
Talking heads: Where's Kelce? He needs to be sent out to pasture
“I can be the receiver and you can coach and we’ll win” to Jeff Saturday is diabolical 😂😂
I love mad dog.
Is Kelce in his prime still? Of course not. But to act like he’s useless is absurd. Just by the way defenses are still prioritizing defending him, Rice and co are getting more space on the field to do damage. The minute they single cover Kelce to have to account more for others Kelce’s numbers will suddenly tick up.
This is one of the worst shows on TV! Two idiots yelling back and forth. The Chiefs HAVE NOT NEEDED him to carry the offense. They’ve run the ball effectively, Rice has emerged as the #1 pass catching option, and the defense is keeping them in every game. Teams are treating Kelce like the offense has nobody else to hurt them. Once teams adjust and start focusing on Rashee it’ll open up Travis and he’ll start feasting. They aren’t forcing him the ball because they aren’t stupid! He was also hurt all last season and played through it. Players always start slow the year they come back from injury especially well into your mid 30s…
They won’t need him this season bc he’s on my fantasy team, next year when he’s not on my team he will be needed
That’s crazy Travis had hella playoff wins before mahomes
What playoff wins
1. He had 1 playoff win.
@@phile5437 my point😂
SHOTS FIRED!!! Mad Dog out here calling out coworkers for their shine and pay!?!?!
at this point is has to be rage bait, right?
Chiefs are 3-0 with limited Kelce. Haven't we been here before?
This is so dumb. They were saying the same things last year then kelce balled out in playoffs.
A chiefs team that doesn’t NEED Travis to always be on top of his game is scary. Who tf gave them Xavier worthy man😭
We don’t need to talk about you running a route in the 1950’s💀
What a ridiculous question! Of course we need him! He keeps getting double and triple teamed to open up the other receivers. That guys a stud and still plays his heart out!!
Are they forgetting Rice? HE’S THE REAL DEAL… keep on sleeping
If Travis was Smart ? He should ask for a Trade to try to get on one of the New York Teams so he could be closer to Taylor .
He's a champion and pro bowl TE yes everyone needs him
I didnt know tariq from power was tariq hill doggy 😂
10:07
Mad dog: You guys are nutss
Stephen A: You’re nutss!
😂😂😂😂
Wednesdays. Truly the best with the KING 😂😂😂
"Chiefs need Kelce like old people need soft shoes" 😂
Found the bot.
They're saving him for the playoffs..
You people are Trippin
Travis Kelce is in Love
That's all
🤣😆😂🤣😆😂
Mad dog should stfu they got permission to go and if he would choose his woman first she invited him he went and if you watch the us open both him and pat was watching the games on his phones
You can’t quantify his value/// it’s paramount 🙌🏾🙏🏾
Stay health for the playoffs my guy🫡
May it's the SwiftKey effect lol 😆
All of that has to be distracting. Not to mention he's making huge money off the field. That being said, I don't question his pride. Hopefully, they get him more involved.
Mad dog and Shannon the realest analyst I’ve seen I’m sorry they always balance their judgment so perfectly
They are pacing him because they need him healthy and hes getting older. They are allowing the newer players to get use to the plays and how the games work in real time. He is helping prepare the team and organization for when he retires.
I've watched Travis open and Pat not see him several times over the past two games. It's hard to catch if you don't get the ball thrown your way.
Mahomes was with Kelce at the US Open lol
Rashee Rice looks like prime Kelce right now. He’s reliable on 3rd down, and he’s a YAC monster.
And he also performed in the playoffs very well.
I can’t believe this is even a question
They're 3-0 and other players are making plays. Let him stay healthy , because post season time will be his time to light it up.
I love how haters want to live other people’s lives.
Mad dog may get cut
He mentioned Trav and his bro makes more than Steven A
Steven A face wasn’t too happy
incredibly unprofessional. he’s threatened and jealous. you don’t publicly run down your colleagues and network decisions, especially ON AIR
Can somebody please talk about the fact that Kelce has also been picking up blocks as the chiefs work to get the left tackle position figured out? He's still a TE not a WR.
Kelce is getting double covered. Which means without even catching the ball he is taking 2 defensive players out of the play. that by definition is not only doing something but is still making a significant impact. It just doesn't show up in the stats.
Please don't think he's not a threat. I love how he is the must guard at all times.
If a 40 yd pass play to Kelce hadnt been wiped away by a stupid holding call against Bengals, this conversation/debate would not even be occuring. Kelce is gonna get his Alright Now!!!
lol I rock with Kelce but I’m not putting him on another parlay this season buddy barley getting 30-40 yards a game right now. Mahomes just got to many weapons now
Is that man on a delerious dementia trip shouting about going to watch Tennis on a short bye, when Mahomes was steps away from him doing the same. But that ain’t an issue. Say that he might slow down because of age, say that he has looked a bit off in the three first games. Fine.
But don’t be so freakin old that you are using the 50’s old ”that woman is a distraction” or what he does in the summer. Just because you can see it in tabloids. Like that is an issue compared to all the players getting caught street racing, for animal cruelty or SA accusations, or that might be doing the exact same things. Just not under a microscope like Kelce. That man is embarrassing himself with bis takes. I get it, cool to provoke, but at least sound smart doing it.
Didn't they do this last year? Playoff time they definitely turned it up
Kelce built like a Lineman now, might as well get on the line. Those 5 yard curl routes not working 😂
So he's built like Gronk?
Kelce has never blocked like Gronk
He looks exactly like he did his whole career.
@@MikkiChavez no he doesnt, he looks soft in the middle with no upper body these days, dude hasnt been in the weight room and it shows.
Mahomes does not need a security blanket. He's not a rookie QB having trouble going to his reads.
the question is do they need him to be great no do they need him to be healthy do they need him t be great and as long as patrick mahomes is helathy and as long as somebody other than travis kelce shows up shich they have the chiefs can win the sb regardless
Rashee #1 option
Doggy hates Taylor Swift and Travis by extension.
They definitely will need him in the playoffs
He's being doubled and bracketed folks. Watch the game.
Patrick Mahomes:” Travis draws in 2-3 people, so it leaves other guys open.”
This a Dum question. If Travis wasn’t good he wouldn’t draw in 2-3 guys. The other receivers are solid. And all yall really talking about this. Smh.
I think Patrick is just rushing passes because he has basically a non-proven LT and a Run-blocking RT protecting him. Once the tackles have more game experience, i'm sure Patrick will be much more willing to allow Kelce to run his routes.
Mad Dog is what Skip bayless wishes he could be! Funny, witty and nice guy to watch! Great aura he brings!
Mad dog “running routes” is crrraaaazzzyyyy😂
To 3peat, yes they need him to 3 peats they possibly could but it’ll be a lot harder
They need him in the playoffs no doubt
Idk why we slandering Travis now, He’s been the BEST TE for almost the last decade now, yall can say Gronk too but if it’s one thing Kelce has had over Gronk is durability, Kelce hardly was ever out. Kelce is bound to slow down at some point, plus if they’re winning despite this, KC really has a good chance at 3 peating. And this coming from a Falcons fan
Who is that guy? Is he the inspiration for Leo Gets, or did he come straight from the 70's?
Edit: I'm a Chief fan since the early 80's. If he's a Chief hater... I still like him. He's fun to listen to.
In order for Kelce to produce Mahomes has to step his game up he’s been hot garbage 🗑️ this season so far
why is espn been so disrespectful to the Kelces? these dudes are salty and threatened. Jealousy is NOT a good look
Most people wood say that Kielce and fact that have two say that Tarly swift and Travis kale and moor people can’t believe it
Greenlaw had Kelce on lock in the superbowl! He only started getting open when he got hurt! Change My Mind
All season long, yes because he's never won a Super Bowl without Kelce being great. This isn't a Brady situation where he's won without Gronk or any star pass catcher. Love Mahomes to death, but he hasn't, so I struggle to say he can when I haven't seen it
With the failure of Chiefs front office for years to provide Mahomes with a WR core that puts any real fear into defenders, Kelce can be the focus of secondaries who can zone, double and triple team him. Until Chiefs' WR's prove they can get open and force a double team, opponents will continue to focus on Kelce. Utter disgrace to have Toney and Scanting as starters last season.