Muhammad's Memorabilia: true relics or Ottoman hoaxes?
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2023
- The footage was all shot in the Topkapi Palace by Mel. This video can be used by all in the Apologetic field, with my blessing.
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What did you think was the most embarrassing object for Islam?
Qur'an manuscript with erasures and corrections.
Muhammad...
That they let a kaffir in to see the propaganda.
The skull of the baby Jesus. JK.
Was Muhammad literate or not?
According to Sahih al-Bukhari, Hadith 114, it would seem that Muhammad may in fact have known how to read and write:
"Narrated 'Ubaidullah bin `Abdullah:
Ibn `Abbas said, "When the ailment of the Prophet (ﷺ) became worse, he said, 'Bring for me (writing) paper and I will write for you a statement after which you will not go astray.' But `Umar said, 'The Prophet is seriously ill, and we have got Allah's Book with us and that is sufficient for us.' But the companions of the Prophet (ﷺ) differed about this and there was a hue and cry. On that the Prophet (ﷺ) said to them, 'Go away (and leave me alone). It is not right that you should quarrel in front of me." Ibn `Abbas came out saying, "It was most unfortunate (a great disaster) that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was prevented from writing that statement for them because of their disagreement and noise.""
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I would say, "Good ol' Mel, suffering this so we don't have to," but it looks like a good laugh was to be had! lol
I had to stop smirking in there. They probably thought I was just happy to see Muhammad's tat. 😂
@@IslamicOrigins 😂😂😂😂😂
Disneyland of historical artifacts. What is the point of such a museum.
Purely to prop up the lies, I suspect
I am far from being an expert, but the so-called sword of David doesn't *look* like an Iron Age sword to me. It shouldn't be too hard to find someone who can comment authoritatively.
and it looks like an awfully balanced sword
🍎They can add a pumpkin size apple, related to their Jihadi Adam, 70 feet tall; that can be real evidence.
It's amazing that Seth's drapes lasted until today!
Moses' staff is supposedly in France. I think it was destroyed at the destruction of the First Temple, if not before.
Shared to my “why I ❤️ Islam” folder
also add this point to the folder - muhammed 56 years old had sex with a 9 year old, and that makes him a pedophile. also he used to lust on GOATS 🤣
It would be interesting to get some sword experts to have a look at face value and compare the style of sword according to the culture and time...
Talk about gullible! I couldn’t go there, I don’t have enough filters. Did P. T. Barnum set this up for them? Thanks for showing us, this is even better than the tombs of the prophets.
People who love the life of disobeying God would probably say this.
Gorgeous hilarity.
Mel if you filmed this then the greatest wonder, or embarrassment, is that they didnt recognize you and chase you out or worse, or perhaps you had a fake whispy beard on and a turban. The mental picture makes me laugh as much as these relics.
Wow. Moses stick, MO’s footprint. What nonsense. Omg. It just gets worse as you go along. 🤣🤣🤣
It does belong to the museum...
Good Business & Smart Minipulation
What Ferengi rule of aquisition applies?
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What a total disgrace of a JOKE LITERALLY 😡
If you held those so called swords and swing it'll break your wrist and you'd have to let go hence your done ✅ what a joke man seriously
I go with hoax.
Why would Muhammad have a magnifying glass if he couldnt read?
No, that there for visitors to see the seal better.
@@IslamicOrigins phew. I thought I was being a biff. Sorry Mel
Oh Mel. It’s all rubbish! 😊
You show us the bowl Mhmd was drinking water or he was unirating in that bowl?
Both.
No, his camel was
yes.
You took a trip to Dinseyland Mel. Land of the giants, giggle, size of those swords, wow you be worn out in battle after 5 swings. Lucky they never had a footprint of Adam, you have to be stupid to think this was real, hair lol, did you mean bulldust in that jug, giggle. What no zamzam water, no gold bowls to rinse Mo heart in, no bowl of wisdumb.
What a Scam! lol
Khalid was Muhammad, so they did have something that is his!
Reliable relics in miraculous preservation? Now that's an act of faith. Does the gift shop offer reliable reproductions of reverent relics for pilgrims to take home as holy souvenirs? All this sounds like graven images for islamic worship.
You should have seen the bodies of the companions of Prophet Muhammad (Saw) moved in 1932 but people are not interested because they think they are really smart and know better. Alhamdulillah, Even the doctor who saw it converted to Islam, unfortunately, you will not be able to anymore though since they have already been moved and buried. So you may just continue wondering as you need an artifact or something for your eyes to see to prove its the truth...Correct?
Alhamdulillah.what is alhamdulillah about sleeping with married female war captives?
Lillah word is used for cash donations for mosques.
Lillah means god,so islamic stink has made god=money
@@umarsaeed3180.
Hazrat Zuhair bin qais r.d.a face Mubarak,on utube.
Genuine? his head is not human size.
@@umarsaeed3180.
His head is still bleeding,1440 years after his passing away.
a tiny container in one picture, i wonder if it was Mhmds dandruf.
Hilarious! It's like a relic circus.
3:26 More likely that's Mahound's toilet.
All these artifacts just prove Islam is the truth..... how else could you explain them ? , will you not understand ? ( just kidding )🙃
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True dat, after realizing the sarcasm.
if you really need artifacts to prove what the truth is, then I think all hope is lost. :)
@@umarsaeed3180 In general archeology has provided us with many artifacts that are authentic ,and it is an essential element that enables us to establish historicity.
The preservation of all this... it's a miracle😂
@@praises5139 Yes ,it is perfectly preserved ,because Islam is the perfect religion 🙂
The footprints. No the hair. No the sandals. No the water used to wash Mos body. No the beard….. the leaves OMG. It’s too much!!! How are you not howling with laughter!! 😂😂😂😂
It was hard not to. 😂
Would you still be laughing on the day of ressurection when you find out that Prophet Muhammad (saw) was the messenger of God just like Prophet Jesus (as), would you remember that you were disrespectfully talking about the Prophet (saw). There is no going back then, and it would be sad that people will say let us go back but they will not be allowed and the judgment will take place.
You would have collected as well if you knew about the status the Prophet Muhammad (saw).
@@umarsaeed3180 well. I wouldn’t be laughing if I knew Mohammad was a real person. However since all evidence shows neither Mecca nor Mohammad existed I’m fine with my original comment. One can’t be disrespected if one never existed except in a fable, a political narrative. Mohammad is like Robin Hood, King Arthur or Macbeth- legends but only in stories. Better to believe in our Lord Jesus Christ who has actual witness, and not just from followers from contemporary persons. 💕✝️
@@karenthompson1337 So you worship a Human, splendid, that pretty much sums up your logic and understanding of the truth. We know where Prophet Muhammad (saw) is buried, the whole of middle east including non arab countries did not become muslim for no reason, but then some Westerners who are not from the middle east, cannot speak arabic, let alone the original language the new testament are telling the history of Islam. Very strange....
who told you that Prophet Muhammad doesn't exist, when the beloved body of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is in Madinah?
Have you ever asked yourself, that the people who have given you this information, probably cannot even read/understand arabic??
@@umarsaeed3180 Hypothetical future scenarios have zero credibility. Nothing about Islam is even remotely tenable as a belief. It is a cheap rip off. Resurrection is Christianity's idea. When did Resurrection ever happen in Islam's founding events? Yes, never. So be quiet. 🙄
What i don't understand is that there are (if we want to believe) pieces of hair and clothing from Muhammad, but we have no copy of a original Uthmanic Quran.
Should be possible for independent scholars, art historians, weapons experts and radio carbon dating to demolish all of these silly claims!
No muslim can ever allow any of this stuff to be verified by scientists coz it would be a low blow to the entire religion 😂😂😂
Those swords look Ottoman to me, a great little video Mel, it looks like Muslims are desperate to prove the SIN
Toilet Curtains scrunched up ???
More likely cherry picked what would could be his belongings and and what wasn’t. And ran with it. Understanding of fact back then was different than ours today. Mormonism is similarly to what it claims are historical sites.
All holy relics, pure idolatry.
I want to see what a great Christian you are. Let's say you lived in 50AD and you were gifted the cross that Jesus died on and the cloth he was wrapped, both proofs of his death and resurrection. Would you preserve them or destroy them?
@@IslamicOrigins do you need to see artifacts to confirm your belief? For us the Quran is the Proof, the message written in there.
@@umarsaeed3180 And yet this museum is full of pislamic relics.
@@IslamicOrigins I am not a Christian , but if I would live at in that time and place , I would attemt to preserve it, I say attempt because I think many would want to steal or destroy it.
@@IslamicOrigins for the so called "Cross" you will never find it during the first 200AD era of Christianity simply because according to the Scripture The word used in the Scripture is Tree.(The Bible is a TRANSLATION of the Scriptures.) The original word used in the original Greek Scripture is staurÕ, which may mean a pole, or a stake, or the word xylou, which means tree. The ONLY Old Testament Scripture that prophesied the way Christ would die (Deuteronomy 21:23), uses the Hebrew word הָעֵ֗ץ yn˙oy (spelt in Roman alphabets as hã-‘ês) which is the Hebrew word for tree. So good luck in finding and preserving the true cross that doesn't exist!!
Regarding the Tokapi manuscript, there doesn't seem to be any erasures or corrections in the folios you are looking at. What you're most likely seeing is simply text and verse symbols that have faded.
[Its worth noting that Brubaker - the person who's well known for documenting corrections - only claims to have found 25 corrections after consulting the facsimile edition of it. Some of these are corrected by the original scribe, have to do with orthography etc.]
The genuinely of relics is very often questionable. There's little doubt that most, if not all, of these relics can't be attributed to the Prophet.
I would also recommend visiting the Turkish Museum of Islamic Arts. Haven't visited it myself, but I suspect there are genuine early materials there - and there definitely are many Quranic manuscripts earlier than the Topkapi manuscript there.
I want to find Dhul Qarnayn's wall, the stones that pelted the people of the elephant, or any archaeology that support the islamic narrative claims about the age of Mecca.
Erasures and fading are hard to tell apart I suppose, but it is hard to explain complete fading in the presence of strongly retained letter definition. I'm no expert on this, just my gut reaction.
@@IslamicOrigins A normal person makes mistakes while copying a text and corrects them after verification by himself and by others. Do you expect someone to copy an entire book and not make a single mistake to be corrected?
@@fleursdelilas9487 according to dawah Abduls, ANY Muslim today can quote the verse exactly, so therefore any Muslim writing on these ancient manuscripts should similarly have the same mental acuity to write it down without a single mistake, or so they claim.
@@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid there is a difference between quoting a verse that you know by heart and WRITING an entire book. Yes, the entire quran is remembered by the collective global muslim comunity, some people remember the entire book with no mistake, they're called Hafiz, but not every muslim remember the entire book without mistake, and you don't have to be a Hafiz to make a copy of the Book, since it has to be verified and checked by others multiple times.
For me clearly no no
Prophet Muhammad had many literate companions who would race to be the one who writes a letter for him. He only had to tell them what to write. he might not learned how to read and right but he was very articulate.
Some of those artefacts might be false, but that doesn't mean all of them are. You say that they're trying too hard to prove Uthman and Ali and Abu bakr existed, but they absolutely don't need to, sisnce they're historical figures known from the entire world, romans, persians, greeks, africans have shared history with them and there existance as certain as yours, incuding the fact that they had entire copies of the same Quran that exists today
Where are those copies now?
The same Qur'an that exists today? We already know for certain that that is false. The Qur'an has got more than 30 Arabic versions with thousands of differences between them. So based on that alone, it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the Qur'an has changed from what it was originally. This is one of the reasons a growing number are leaving Islam. It's a tsunami! 😂
@@IslamicOriginsYeah it's a tsunami.....boring.Where is your clear evidences about the complete old different 30 Arabic versions of the Quran ? you have to provide a clear and multiple proofs or many strong evidences for your own bad claims or are you just up here throwing empty accusations and claims here and there like your other cute barking dogs (your christian missionaries friends) .
So mohmad had people to write letters for him but there were not a single person in mohmads time to write whole Quran, those so called katibeen e wahi which are said to be more then 40, couldn't they compile single book of 114 surahs, those imignary people used to write on bones, leaves and sticks as the verses were revealed, why aren't those preserved, if these Ottomans would find Moses stick, why didn't they found solomons flying carpet.
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By the time the prophet died entire copies were gathered. Maybe not as a well put physical book, but the text was gathered.
Needless to say thousands had memorized the entire thing in order, so there was almost zero risk to lose any of it.
The writing on bones thing was during the first years.
he had "that" power similar to einstein, davinici but before there time. not all relics are correct. half the "king tuts" in america arent real but we know he existed. be able to find decoy and truths. If your able to experience a journey as such theres more truth less harm.
it stems from zoroastrian thinking, philosophy but the way zoroastrians can contruct the future is out of "your" hands
علي sword is لا
So many lies it’s amazing really that so many people behind the the great lies like Mecca was known during Mohammed’s life time also I call it desperation.
d.u.m.b.est ☪️ult ever.
Stop spreading ur negative thoughts if you don’t believe in it then you don’t…
Bro this is a hoax 😅
Strange looking at these comments..... I wonder how these people who worship Prophet Jesus (as) have the nerve to make fun of these holy relics...I mean seriously, your worshipping a Messenger of God.
No, you worship a fake prophet and pretend you don't. We
Worship the Living God, who became incarnate. You love the fake and reject the real. No harm in mocking these fake items.
@@IslamicOrigins we do not pretend we do...we don't as we say there is non worthy of worship except Allah.
Out of All the Prophets that has come, nobody claimed to be a God, all have invited people to worship the one true God. Its only you people who made Prophet Jesus a God. God is one who created the whole universe, and your basically saying you touch God, feed God, comfort him....we know that only God can provide...through him is everything...he is a our sustainer...when you give a gift to a great prophet...food for example...who is the sustainer? Everyone know Prophet Jesus (as) ate....had skin...slept....can you imagine a God sleeping...even though their status is immense who are close to God....we Muslims do not make Prophets son of God or God. La Hawla wa la quwata illa billah, there is no power and strength except that of Allah.
@@umarsaeed3180 these arguments are childish. Jesus was proclaimed as God become man. If you claim the bible lies, then stop calling Jesus a prophet because you don't know him.
@@IslamicOrigins The bible does not say incarnate. According to the Bible, Jesus is an eternal god. It always existed in the past. That's why you are polytheistic.
@@furkancimen3145 Clown. The Word became Flesh. Became Flesh means incarnate.
This is why Muhammad prohibited paintings of him, he knew his fanboys would be unhinged with the human worship.
A sandale 🥴