Wild to see the differences in treatment there in UK -vs- US. Love seeing the on-site doctors there. Will say that here, typically, no one ever moves patients or pulls them from a vehicle except trained personnel, (unless say fire could risk life) and 99.% gets C-collar no matter what type of accident. I enjoy watching your videos showing your response and care. Keep up the great work. "We" all depend on and are grateful for you all and your care.🥰
Blown pupils. We realized she was no longer with us. No inappropriate anger towards the medical staff was going to help in any case. Some of us realized that some did not. There is no "do something" at that point. Nothing can be done to fix it. I'm sure they wish they could. I can't imagine the stress of doing this during lockdown. Sympathies to the families of the victims who did not make it, and the paramedics who fought for their life.
To the family and friends my deepest condolences sorry for your loss I like the videos seeing what you do in the UK having more medical personnel is a good idea here in the united states you get EMT and paramedic and firefighters half of the time who knows
54:01 The critical treatment is to start the CPR immediately to prevent oxygen deprivation to the brain. You may survive the cardiac arrest but the brain damage is permanent. Is the critical care team training to intubate in the field and do they even have the necessary drugs for intubation…I’m assuming and hoping they do. I’d want him intubated ASAP, regardless of other risks in administrating the drugs for intubation…the sedation increases the risk of the patient going back into cardiac arrest however I alway think the risk of oxygen deprivation to the brain takes precedence. That was usually my opinion, other doctors had their opinion. Every case is different and needs to be assessed individually based on known factors. I just never considered saving the life only to have the patient left in a vegetative state a successful outcome. Doc
This show highlights things done well in the UK vs appallingly handled in the US. US is now so broken that many are homeless, barely able to afford housing or just struggling so much that basic life functioning is a struggle. The majority of resources go to the wealthy, who also manage to control zoning laws and many other regulations that perpetuate this appalling imbalance. Furthermore, mental health is so poorly handled that many issues are further compounded.
Obviously, you or someone you care for has been seriously injured or died. I'm terribly sorry that happened, but regarding the level of care in the USA, it's certainly not beneath that of any other country. I've watched many of these videos. I feel the UK is quite different from the USA, but not better or worse. AU seems good, though of the 2, I'd rather be ill in the UK. Every time, it seems as though the AU isn't as conducive to constructive, kind criticism. Of course, there are differences. BTW, I'm a retired helicopter medical professional.
@@lakotafire2804as a veteran and living in Boston, I’d disagree. The medical system here has gone downhill so bad in recent times that hospitals can’t take all of the traffic they have and are being forced to speed up discharges and prioritize patients to get them in. It’s a critical crisis and staffing shortages which are very public knowledge here. The mental health situation is even worse.. never mind the care we get as veterans because that’s grossly unacceptable for most. I don’t think it’s fair to invalidate someone else based on your own assumption they must’ve been through loss or trauma to get to their opinion or because of your position as an employee in a field.
@tango2217 First of all, thank you for your dedication, sacrifice, bravery, and overall service. My dear, I was judging no one. I stated an opinion just as you and the person who left their original opinion. I agree regarding our veteran's services. I've seen that over the last 37 years. The only good veteran's hospital that I've seen was in Birmingham, AL. (I've been to many states.) When I was an ambulance RN, we said that if a patient was ill, yet viable, we tried everything in our power NOT to take the patient to VA Phoenix. IHS is no better. Birmingham had a good mental health service. I've flown with the most awesome pilots available anywhere, Vietnam Veterans. Our level of care and that of private ambulances and other mediflight agencies were very excellent. We RNs did the same procedures as the helo docs in the UK. We had RSI and all of the pain meds also. The number of patients per hospital wasn't the topic covered in the video. Pre-hospital care and transportation was! Sir or madame, I have the same right as you to express my feelings without being judged by you. I feel your issue, while vital, would be best resolved through an administrative arena. Nurses and medics can only work as best as possible no matter the hospital size or funding available. Blasting pre-hospital care is akin to complaining about tank ruts to the drill sgt. I hope your issue is resolved. However, it takes time and money to build hospitals. Trauma Centers such as Bethesda and Boston General lose money... or we could pay sky-high taxes and continue to wait for appointments, being told to take Ibuprofen and come back in a few weeks as in the UK. Good luck to you, madame or sir. SMH.
What I've noticed here compared to US is they will issue you as much pain medication as needed to make you comfortable and here you're lucky to get anything
@@shellybliss1549we have an opioid crisis here in the United States. Doctors are very reluctant to prescribe opioids for more than a few days to patients because of the high risk of addiction. I have chronic pain and am very lucky to ever get anything stronger than Ibuprofen.
I agree - especially with that teen that broke his leg and it took 17 minutes for the SECOND lady to arrive just to give him stronger pain meds. He could have been IN the hospital long before she even got there and had all the meds (and X-rays) he needed. In SOME cases, I understand the need to stablize the patient... but come on, the ground isn't an emergency room.
It can be more dangerous to rush around trying to get these people to the hospital. If the patient isn’t ACTIVELY dying (not breathing/ no pulse) or have obvious trauma to their bodies such as active bleeding from a wound or severe compounded fractures, it is best to take some time to stabilize the patient enough to transport them to the hospital that way they are comfortable. I was involved in a horrendous motorcycle accident with 7 fractures and torn ligaments including multiple crush injuries and a compound fracture in my ankle. I was on the scene for a little bit before getting to the hospital because I was awake and alert. Sometimes taking your time can actually be better for the person.
Survival rate is better when a patient is able to be stabilized on site. Some injuries could worsen with travel unless stabilized first. Severe pain can affect breathing and BP and keep paramedics from diagnosing injuries.
Amydavis4945 they couldn't splint his leg without more pain meds. A broken leg bone can puncture blood vessels so if it can be set on scene it's less dangerous.
Our system is broken as well here in NZ. our Govern has just made drugs a priority drinking has always been a prob. But taking priority now as well. We will see. UK HAS ALWAYS HAD A GREAT system. We do to, but short staff, Rural areas are very short staffed. Our Govern has just made registration fines has gone up more in line with UK, Canada, & Australian , thank goodness. Well done people you are the best.❤
So this teen gets "knocked off his bike" and they suspect he has a broken leg. So the regular emergency folks get there (they didn't mention their response time)... give him a bunch of analgesics but realize he needs something stronger, so they call in the other lady and it takes HER "17 minutes" to get to the scene. Why didn't they just get him on the dang ambulance and take him to the hospital where they would have everything they needed for him? Instead they let him lay there, in excruciating pain, backing up traffic for 30 minutes or more. It makes no sense to me.
So she starts making her way to the scene at the same time as the ambulance does because the dispatcher understands that she’s needed as well, but unlike ambulances there’s less critical care crews and they’re probably further away than the ambulance therefore taking her more time (even though the average time it takes an ambulance to arrive at scene is 10-15 minutes so she actually didn’t take that long to arrive). Also she has equipment and knowledge that the ambulance crews don’t, like strong painkillers that are needed to be able to stabilize his foot so that he doesn’t loose it as the longer it’s in the position it was it might not get proper blood flow and consequently the limb dies and it has to be amputated. And this is probably a personal opinion but when you have to be the bad guy and hurt them a little while you’re trying to help them it helps a little to know that the pain is a little more bearable, or no pain at all or in some instances when they don’t even remember the pain, it’s overall better for the patient and the crew, it makes the pre-hospital care better and increases the patient’s outcome (physically and mentally). Hope this helped 😊
@@iritortiz9325 No, sorry... it still doesn't make sense when the ambulance **was there** on scene and could have just taken him to the hospital, instead of letting him lay there in excruciating pain waiting for someone else to get there that can give him stronger pain killers. He could have ALREADY been at the hospital where he would not ONLY get stronger meds, but also medical TREATMENT.
Because the regular paramedics cannot administer the type of pain medicine that the critical response paramedic can. Getting his pain under control before trying to move him and put him on the ambulance and then the bumps of the ride, etc.. If he were to do that in that kind of pain could lead to cardiac arrest and other issues. As well as not being able to set that femur bone back into place, circulation issues as well as sharp pieces of bone sticking out moving around that could possibly puncture the femoral artery, etc. Again, they couldn’t set that bone without the kind of pain control that only that special paramedic could administer.
"Women Paramedic in Action"... where? This whole "marathon" had absolutely NOTHING to do with "women paramedics"... in fact, I think there was only ONE female shown in this entire "marathon".
Did he say 16 or 60 minutes??????? Either way. I know they're told you're best, but 60 minutes is unheard of and something needs to be fixed. 1616 Stillman, 3 improved on.
1:06:09 "In Britain, someone falls down the stairs every 90 seconds... **killing** around 800 per year." They weren't saying EVERY person that falls down stairs is killed by it. 😂
@@alexanderson9442 They were just stating a fact... a statistic. Is it really that hard for you to admit you misunderstood what they said? LOL! My goodness!
@amydavis4945 what? I have no problem admitting that? That why I said would it be hard to believe that's what they said? Referring to the hundreds of thousands of things that are said online a day that wrong... but good try though ma'am
I swear if a paramedic told me told me to 'relax' after my partner of 60 years fell off a roof and was bleeding profusely from the head I would have ended up in jail. That is the most condescending thing you can say to someone in an emergency. Especially the elderly.
Actually- we tell you that so you yourself do not also become a patient. It's not to be condescending. If your worked up it makes it worse for your partner who is the patient. We understand the panic, however we have to focus on the patient. If your screaming or carrying on it takes our attention away. Would you really want to be the reason your partner didn't get adequate care because your freaking out? Lots of things to think about
So you prefer to be a distraction. It's not about you, it's about your partner. You throwing your toys out of your cot, is not doing anyone any favours. Relax.
The lady in the video wasn't screaming or carrying on, was she? And you don't know me - you have no idea how I reacted every time my child had a life threatening seizure or asthma attack. The only thing to think about here is your God complex thinking you are better suited to understand someones panic. @@TinasCrazyLife
Have you experienced paramedics helping you? Share your stories in the comments!
Wild to see the differences in treatment there in UK -vs- US. Love seeing the on-site doctors there. Will say that here, typically, no one ever moves patients or pulls them from a vehicle except trained personnel, (unless say fire could risk life) and 99.% gets C-collar no matter what type of accident.
I enjoy watching your videos showing your response and care. Keep up the great work. "We" all depend on and are grateful for you all and your care.🥰
Spot on about the different EMS systems
Blown pupils. We realized she was no longer with us. No inappropriate anger towards the medical staff was going to help in any case. Some of us realized that some did not. There is no "do something" at that point. Nothing can be done to fix it. I'm sure they wish they could. I can't imagine the stress of doing this during lockdown. Sympathies to the families of the victims who did not make it, and the paramedics who fought for their life.
To the family and friends my deepest condolences sorry for your loss
I like the videos seeing what you do in the UK having more medical personnel is a good idea here in the united states you get EMT and paramedic and firefighters half of the time who knows
54:01 The critical treatment is to start the CPR immediately to prevent oxygen deprivation to the brain. You may survive the cardiac arrest but the brain damage is permanent. Is the critical care team training to intubate in the field and do they even have the necessary drugs for intubation…I’m assuming and hoping they do. I’d want him intubated ASAP, regardless of other risks in administrating the drugs for intubation…the sedation increases the risk of the patient going back into cardiac arrest however I alway think the risk of oxygen deprivation to the brain takes precedence. That was usually my opinion, other doctors had their opinion. Every case is different and needs to be assessed individually based on known factors. I just never considered saving the life only to have the patient left in a vegetative state a successful outcome.
Doc
This show highlights things done well in the UK vs appallingly handled in the US.
US is now so broken that many are homeless, barely able to afford housing or just struggling so much that basic life functioning is a struggle.
The majority of resources go to the wealthy, who also manage to control zoning laws and many other regulations that perpetuate this appalling imbalance.
Furthermore, mental health is so poorly handled that many issues are further compounded.
Obviously, you or someone you care for has been seriously injured or died. I'm terribly sorry that happened, but regarding the level of care in the USA, it's certainly not beneath that of any other country. I've watched many of these videos. I feel the UK is quite different from the USA, but not better or worse. AU seems good, though of the 2, I'd rather be ill in the UK. Every time, it seems as though the AU isn't as conducive to constructive, kind criticism. Of course, there are differences.
BTW, I'm a retired helicopter medical professional.
@@lakotafire2804as a veteran and living in Boston, I’d disagree. The medical system here has gone downhill so bad in recent times that hospitals can’t take all of the traffic they have and are being forced to speed up discharges and prioritize patients to get them in. It’s a critical crisis and staffing shortages which are very public knowledge here. The mental health situation is even worse.. never mind the care we get as veterans because that’s grossly unacceptable for most. I don’t think it’s fair to invalidate someone else based on your own assumption they must’ve been through loss or trauma to get to their opinion or because of your position as an employee in a field.
@tango2217
First of all, thank you for your dedication, sacrifice, bravery, and overall service. My dear, I was judging no one. I stated an opinion just as you and the person who left their original opinion. I agree regarding our veteran's services. I've seen that over the last 37 years. The only good veteran's hospital that I've seen was in Birmingham, AL. (I've been to many states.) When I was an ambulance RN, we said that if a patient was ill, yet viable, we tried everything in our power NOT to take the patient to VA Phoenix. IHS is no better. Birmingham had a good mental health service. I've flown with the most awesome pilots available anywhere, Vietnam Veterans.
Our level of care and that of private ambulances and other mediflight agencies were very excellent. We RNs did the same procedures as the helo docs in the UK. We had RSI and all of the pain meds also. The number of patients per hospital wasn't the topic covered in the video. Pre-hospital care and transportation was!
Sir or madame, I have the same right as you to express my feelings without being judged by you. I feel your issue, while vital, would be best resolved through an administrative arena. Nurses and medics can only work as best as possible no matter the hospital size or funding available. Blasting pre-hospital care is akin to complaining about tank ruts to the drill sgt. I hope your issue is resolved. However, it takes time and money to build hospitals. Trauma Centers such as Bethesda and Boston General lose money... or we could pay sky-high taxes and continue to wait for appointments, being told to take Ibuprofen and come back in a few weeks as in the UK. Good luck to you, madame or sir. SMH.
What I've noticed here compared to US is they will issue you as much pain medication as needed to make you comfortable and here you're lucky to get anything
@@shellybliss1549we have an opioid crisis here in the United States. Doctors are very reluctant to prescribe opioids for more than a few days to patients because of the high risk of addiction. I have chronic pain and am very lucky to ever get anything stronger than Ibuprofen.
It seems insane how long they spend on scene in this show instead of immediate travel to hospital.
I agree - especially with that teen that broke his leg and it took 17 minutes for the SECOND lady to arrive just to give him stronger pain meds. He could have been IN the hospital long before she even got there and had all the meds (and X-rays) he needed. In SOME cases, I understand the need to stablize the patient... but come on, the ground isn't an emergency room.
It can be more dangerous to rush around trying to get these people to the hospital. If the patient isn’t ACTIVELY dying (not breathing/ no pulse) or have obvious trauma to their bodies such as active bleeding from a wound or severe compounded fractures, it is best to take some time to stabilize the patient enough to transport them to the hospital that way they are comfortable. I was involved in a horrendous motorcycle accident with 7 fractures and torn ligaments including multiple crush injuries and a compound fracture in my ankle. I was on the scene for a little bit before getting to the hospital because I was awake and alert. Sometimes taking your time can actually be better for the person.
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Survival rate is better when a patient is able to be stabilized on site. Some injuries could worsen with travel unless stabilized first. Severe pain can affect breathing and BP and keep paramedics from diagnosing injuries.
Amydavis4945 they couldn't splint his leg without more pain meds. A broken leg bone can puncture blood vessels so if it can be set on scene it's less dangerous.
These elderly DIYers need to find other things to do other than obsess with leaves and whatnot in the gutters of their 2 story houses, I'm thinking!
5:10 Cars don't lose control... drivers lose control of their cars.
Our system is broken as well here in NZ. our Govern has just made drugs a priority drinking has always been a prob. But taking priority now as well. We will see. UK HAS ALWAYS HAD A GREAT system. We do to, but short staff, Rural areas are very short staffed. Our Govern has just made registration fines has gone up more in line with UK, Canada, & Australian , thank goodness. Well done people you are the best.❤
I love Patsy and the two curlers in her hair.
So this teen gets "knocked off his bike" and they suspect he has a broken leg. So the regular emergency folks get there (they didn't mention their response time)... give him a bunch of analgesics but realize he needs something stronger, so they call in the other lady and it takes HER "17 minutes" to get to the scene. Why didn't they just get him on the dang ambulance and take him to the hospital where they would have everything they needed for him? Instead they let him lay there, in excruciating pain, backing up traffic for 30 minutes or more. It makes no sense to me.
So she starts making her way to the scene at the same time as the ambulance does because the dispatcher understands that she’s needed as well, but unlike ambulances there’s less critical care crews and they’re probably further away than the ambulance therefore taking her more time (even though the average time it takes an ambulance to arrive at scene is 10-15 minutes so she actually didn’t take that long to arrive). Also she has equipment and knowledge that the ambulance crews don’t, like strong painkillers that are needed to be able to stabilize his foot so that he doesn’t loose it as the longer it’s in the position it was it might not get proper blood flow and consequently the limb dies and it has to be amputated.
And this is probably a personal opinion but when you have to be the bad guy and hurt them a little while you’re trying to help them it helps a little to know that the pain is a little more bearable, or no pain at all or in some instances when they don’t even remember the pain, it’s overall better for the patient and the crew, it makes the pre-hospital care better and increases the patient’s outcome (physically and mentally).
Hope this helped 😊
@@iritortiz9325 No, sorry... it still doesn't make sense when the ambulance **was there** on scene and could have just taken him to the hospital, instead of letting him lay there in excruciating pain waiting for someone else to get there that can give him stronger pain killers. He could have ALREADY been at the hospital where he would not ONLY get stronger meds, but also medical TREATMENT.
@@amydavis4945and possibly lose his foot due to an in sufficiently stabilised fracture……yeah that’s a REALLY great outcome.
Because the regular paramedics cannot administer the type of pain medicine that the critical response paramedic can. Getting his pain under control before trying to move him and put him on the ambulance and then the bumps of the ride, etc..
If he were to do that in that kind of pain could lead to cardiac arrest and other issues.
As well as not being able to set that femur bone back into place, circulation issues as well as sharp pieces of bone sticking out moving around that could possibly puncture the femoral artery, etc.
Again, they couldn’t set that bone without the kind of pain control that only that special paramedic could administer.
I’m f I was in a rtc over there and they didn’t put a c collar on me and have me on a back board especially if I was having back pain I’d sue them
"Women Paramedic in Action"... where? This whole "marathon" had absolutely NOTHING to do with "women paramedics"... in fact, I think there was only ONE female shown in this entire "marathon".
When did they do away with the elevator on the back of the 🚑’s ?
Where are the women paramedics in in action
Why in the 🌎 would the take the man off the regular back board and then use a scoop stretcher instead
Did he say 16 or 60 minutes??????? Either way. I know they're told you're best, but 60 minutes is unheard of and something needs to be fixed. 1616 Stillman, 3 improved on.
Why not Lucas on att arrival?
"In Britain someone falls down the stairs every 90 seconds... about 900 people a year??"
But every 90 seconds would be 5,840 people a year??
1:06:09 "In Britain, someone falls down the stairs every 90 seconds... **killing** around 800 per year." They weren't saying EVERY person that falls down stairs is killed by it. 😂
@@amydavis4945 fair point... but is it hard to believe that would be said🤣🤣
@@alexanderson9442 They were just stating a fact... a statistic. Is it really that hard for you to admit you misunderstood what they said? LOL! My goodness!
@amydavis4945 what? I have no problem admitting that? That why I said would it be hard to believe that's what they said? Referring to the hundreds of thousands of things that are said online a day that wrong... but good try though ma'am
When are we going to have international men's day celebrating male paramedics? I thought it was all about gender equality? Celebrate men and women!
Spoken like a true egotistical male! If you truly cared vs just being an arse you’d know 19 Nov you could have your fragile masculinity feelings on!
Lol
@@TinasCrazyLife it's funny hey. So much for equality but when men get credit then it's all of sudden toxic.
Go cry a river
@@Mus-Docoh grow up.
wait all of them were near the patient, then they put on hazmat suits to prevent covid?
I swear if a paramedic told me told me to 'relax' after my partner of 60 years fell off a roof and was bleeding profusely from the head I would have ended up in jail. That is the most condescending thing you can say to someone in an emergency. Especially the elderly.
Actually- we tell you that so you yourself do not also become a patient. It's not to be condescending. If your worked up it makes it worse for your partner who is the patient. We understand the panic, however we have to focus on the patient. If your screaming or carrying on it takes our attention away. Would you really want to be the reason your partner didn't get adequate care because your freaking out? Lots of things to think about
@TinasCrazyLife HAHAHA and you are why I'd end up in jail. Condescending. Know it all. God complex. Go sway.
So you prefer to be a distraction. It's not about you, it's about your partner. You throwing your toys out of your cot, is not doing anyone any favours. Relax.
The lady in the video wasn't screaming or carrying on, was she? And you don't know me - you have no idea how I reacted every time my child had a life threatening seizure or asthma attack.
The only thing to think about here is your God complex thinking you are better suited to understand someones panic.
@@TinasCrazyLife
A distraction? That's what you call an elderly woman who is terrified? Good heavens I hope you aren't in the medical field. @@Largo-y
The mother of Satan is gonna bring the drug addict brother back to mess up ever body's life.