I like the idea of using army of renown rules to give older books a boost in the last year of the current game version. Might feel different later, but I like it atm.
They are just doing wacky stuff at this point, which is super fun, because it will all change with the new edition :) plus it mixes things up because we are running the same ghb for 1 year
Glad you enjoyed it! Michael has painted over 10 2000pts armies this year so we can bring you viewers quality content. We greatly appreciate the comment and look forward to seeing you in future battle reports!
A fluffy Trogg list vs an aggressively efficient Chaos list. What a shocking outcome :D I love the idea of Trugg's mob but the Troggs really benefit a lot from buffs and screening provided by other Gitz units. Some Fellwater troggs would have helped a lot in this game with their armour debuff.
Agreed! The Weight of dice with the banner of screaming flesh means most any unit with 20 pr less wounds is dead, and the once per battle fight again can be very impactful if timed right. Having warriors so low in points now means you have a SOLID screen and the chosen just counter the pants off of anything that gets stuck in combat
I'm not a smashing-and-bashing kind of guy, so I'm not huge on either factions' mechanics, but I'll be damned if the model ranges on both factions aren't among the best in the game. The Troggs' details on their flesh, some of their models have cute little mushroom companions or other things, and their weapons are as brutal as they are crude. Love it. The Slaves To Darkness have the best armor designs out there, even beating the Stormcast Eternals. Games Workshop really did a great job on both of them. So who do I cheer for? STD isn't fielding Archaon, so points to them. The Gloomspite Gitz aren't fielding a bunch of obnoxious Squigs, either, so points to them. I'm cheering for Troggs. Yeah, I hate your choice of Dark Master. But you still won by a significant margin. The Chosen are an incredible hammer, and went uncontested for a couple of combat phases, got your value out of them. Nice work. :D
Thanks for the well thought out comment Stryder! I had a rough go with Slaves to Darkness when the tome was released, but am starting to get their playstyle down. They are a solid faction, and with the points drops for knights, warriors and chosen, you can make a pretty scary and tanky 2000pt list. As always thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, we appreciate you ;)
This was a mistake in turn 1 only :) the trogg would have most likely ran d/t battleshock anyway. I am surprised that Michael made this mistake, because he has played with troggs at least 15 times lol
Loved to see the AutoRun+Charge Slaanesh Chosen :) when you charge with slaanesh Chosen it should be +2 to on charge for Slaanesh+Drummer. Awesome Game that was really fun to watch!
Thank you for the comment! I have decided that I am in love with chosen. The models are some of the best GW sculpts ever made, their rules are perfect for their lore, and they pointed perfectly right now. I would run 20 if I had another 10 just for the lolz!
We wait until we are off camera to verbally abuse each other lol. Jokes aside, we try to always remember we started this channel to have fun, not to be salty rage babies in front of our viewers hahahaha.
@@BattleshockWargaming and that's probably one of the best qualities for a battle reports channel. There's nothing more uncomfortable than a game with a salty player. Thanks for the great content guys :D
Wizard heroes that are not unique and have a wounds characteristic of 9 or less gain the andtorian acolyte keyword. Neither the realm rule nor the battalion states the caster cannot be mounted. You may be confusing this with the last ghb which excluded mounted heroes
@@BattleshockWargaming What the battalion says: Champion: hero with a Wounds characteristic of less than 10, that does not have a mount (with the exception of companions) and is not Unique. So the mounted hero can't go into the battalion.
Im building my own slaves to darkness list and It looks very similar to this minus belakor and with warriors instead of the 5 knights. What would you run instead of Belakor and the endless spell? I have 620 pts left
Awesome battle. I know its just maybe perception but felt like the StD were rolling SO HOT all game lol, making 3/5 5+ saves just huge weight of dice I felt kept the Troggoths from actually doing much this game. Would love to see a rematch!
Great video as always guys! Such clean looking armies! Just remember though to be an Andtorian Acolytes, you cant have a mount. Sadly the Kark wouldn't qualify :(
Shit! Well honestly, I didn't need the acolytes battalion, and this would have made me a 1 drop, I would have given Mike the first turn, which he did anyway lol. It's funny, we have filmed over 150 videos and still make silly mistakes. Thanks for watching and being a part of our community!
@@theDEUBabides They can be locus since he qualifies as a non unique hero with 9 wounds or less, but he is unable to be in the battalion because to be qualified as the "Champion" slot, he must be a hero with wounds less than 10, that does not have a mount and is not unique.
Great video as always guys! Quick question, what chaos dice are those exactly? The look amazing and would go great with my own Slaves to Darkness army.
Oh my goodness I love both of these lists and it’s finally 2 armies I have. Let’s see what happens. Troggs are my early pick but this looks like a toss up
He always knew, but his brain glitched and he forgot how to count for a moment. Let's be real though, that last trogg was running from battleshock at the end of the turn hahaha 😆
Correct me if i am wrong but, as far as I know you lose all battle traits from the battletome while using an Army of Renown, so you dont gain any benefits from the Moon. Besides that i do enjoy your battlereports quite a lot!
How did your Trugg army come to 1990 total points? Your total points is actually 1910? So you could've had at least maybe another Boss to have a 1950 list instead? Anyways you left a lot of points available is all.....
Played the Troggherd and was really dissapointed. I was torn to pieces without a wizard and with slow moving. It is better to play Troggs in other gitz factions.
Full on agree, the army is cool, but just suffers d/t no magic resistance and slow moving, expensive hammer units. You realize how fragile they are when they dont have 40 stabbas to soak up charges. Very cool army tho. Tune in on Thursday to see how they stack up against Cities of Sigmar!
Yep, the Rockguts shit the bed on that one, that left the Chosen out of combat which meant they could run and charge into the rest of the army. That fight in turn 2 likely swung the game
Voting for Trogg let those Trolls Smash the Chaos Armor to bitz🙂🙂 sexy Tanktop David ❤️😉 PS you dont have to use troggs ability each Turn If you Like what you got. 21:32 If He couldnt all Out Attack you also dont have to worry about redeploy 😉
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I like the idea of using army of renown rules to give older books a boost in the last year of the current game version. Might feel different later, but I like it atm.
They are just doing wacky stuff at this point, which is super fun, because it will all change with the new edition :) plus it mixes things up because we are running the same ghb for 1 year
Looking forward to more trugg. I just finished painting a similar list swap one 6 rock gut for 6 fellwaters
Nice 👍We have another report with Trugg vs Cities of Sigmar dropping next week!
I think people are sleeping on the FellWaters. Someone will figure out a way to use their vomit attack with Gitz, Orks or other Troggs
We need to buy some !
Highlight of my week is when these videos are being released, you guys are doing a really great job.
Thanks alot! We appreciate you taking time to comment. Tons of good stuff OTW 😉
Excellent report ,,, loved the painting .. nicely done chaps
Glad you enjoyed it! Michael has painted over 10 2000pts armies this year so we can bring you viewers quality content. We greatly appreciate the comment and look forward to seeing you in future battle reports!
You can keep the ley stone ability if you want. You don't have to roll each hero phase if you are happy with your previous result
That is interesting! We will have to re-read the rules. Thanks for watching :)
@@BattleshockWargamingonly for Trugg. The rest of the army lose the bonus
A fluffy Trogg list vs an aggressively efficient Chaos list. What a shocking outcome :D I love the idea of Trugg's mob but the Troggs really benefit a lot from buffs and screening provided by other Gitz units. Some Fellwater troggs would have helped a lot in this game with their armour debuff.
He got his revenge the following week lol! thanks for watching!!
Always a delight to see some chosen of Slaanesh, I feel like when the book came out everyone was kinda low on them but they are absolute beasts
Agreed! The Weight of dice with the banner of screaming flesh means most any unit with 20 pr less wounds is dead, and the once per battle fight again can be very impactful if timed right. Having warriors so low in points now means you have a SOLID screen and the chosen just counter the pants off of anything that gets stuck in combat
Great video!
Thank you!!
Another fun batrep as usual. Keep em coming guys! The armies look great, by the way. The paint jobs were very well done.
Thanks a lot! We have some awesome monster mash match ups coming for Halloween, should be a lot of fun!
Looking forward to them!@@BattleshockWargaming
Could have really done with some Fellwaters. Absolute terrors against Slaves. 😀
Yes, we need to add some fell waters to our collection 😉
I'm not a smashing-and-bashing kind of guy, so I'm not huge on either factions' mechanics, but I'll be damned if the model ranges on both factions aren't among the best in the game. The Troggs' details on their flesh, some of their models have cute little mushroom companions or other things, and their weapons are as brutal as they are crude. Love it. The Slaves To Darkness have the best armor designs out there, even beating the Stormcast Eternals. Games Workshop really did a great job on both of them. So who do I cheer for? STD isn't fielding Archaon, so points to them. The Gloomspite Gitz aren't fielding a bunch of obnoxious Squigs, either, so points to them. I'm cheering for Troggs.
Yeah, I hate your choice of Dark Master. But you still won by a significant margin. The Chosen are an incredible hammer, and went uncontested for a couple of combat phases, got your value out of them. Nice work. :D
Thanks for the well thought out comment Stryder! I had a rough go with Slaves to Darkness when the tome was released, but am starting to get their playstyle down. They are a solid faction, and with the points drops for knights, warriors and chosen, you can make a pretty scary and tanky 2000pt list. As always thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, we appreciate you ;)
First combat, did the Troggs count as having 3 wounds each and not 4? Or was I missing something?
no you are right. troggoths have 4 wounds each and they played them with three
They do have 4 wounds, but he was playing as they had 3...
This was a mistake in turn 1 only :) the trogg would have most likely ran d/t battleshock anyway. I am surprised that Michael made this mistake, because he has played with troggs at least 15 times lol
Lord on kakadrak cant be in andtorian acolytes cause it has wounds characteristic of 10 and is on mount :O
You are partially correct. Karkadrak is 9 wounds, so he is andtorian, but you are right, he can't go into the battalion
@@BattleshockWargaming my mistake :)
same reason my tzaangor shaman cant fit in it :(
Love the Trogg army! I’ve been on the receiving end of a Chosen charge a few times so I feel the pain lol!
I love the Chosies! I want 20, but that is half of your army lol
Loved to see the AutoRun+Charge Slaanesh Chosen :) when you charge with slaanesh Chosen it should be +2 to on charge for Slaanesh+Drummer. Awesome Game that was really fun to watch!
Thank you for the comment! I have decided that I am in love with chosen. The models are some of the best GW sculpts ever made, their rules are perfect for their lore, and they pointed perfectly right now. I would run 20 if I had another 10 just for the lolz!
Been waiting for this one. The dragon army of renown is my most anti spayed but I really wanted to see this one as well.
Trugg is awesome! We love the all trogg list
I def want to see more Troggherd. Armies of renown are so much fun.
Im feeling like its time to bring out the trogg herd again. Trugg has only played on the table twice.
Awesome battle report, love seeing you guys have so much fun, even when the game is not being the most balanced in outcome
We wait until we are off camera to verbally abuse each other lol. Jokes aside, we try to always remember we started this channel to have fun, not to be salty rage babies in front of our viewers hahahaha.
@@BattleshockWargaming and that's probably one of the best qualities for a battle reports channel. There's nothing more uncomfortable than a game with a salty player.
Thanks for the great content guys :D
You need felwaters to reduce saves and negative to hits. You need to take +1 to wound triumph
This is facts, we will probably add some Fellwaters in the future ;)
@@BattleshockWargaming when his 3+ is now a 4+ and he can't improve it...muahahahah
@BattleshockWargaming would love to see you guys try this list:
- Army Faction: Gloomspite Gitz
- Subfaction: Trugg's Troggherd
- Grand Strategy: Overshadow
- Triumph: Indomitable
LEADERS
Dankhold Troggboss (210)*
- General
- Command Traits: Ceaseless Growth
- Artefacts of Power: Loonstone Teef
Trugg (320)**
BATTLELINE
Fellwater Troggoths (170)*
Fellwater Troggoths (170)*
Rockgut Troggoths (340)*
Fellwater Troggoths (170)*
Dankhold Troggoths (190)**
Dankhold Troggoths (190)**
Dankhold Troggoths (190)**
CORE BATTALIONS
*Battle Regiment
**Battle Regiment
TOTAL POINTS: 1950/2000
Just a question I have seen more times: How are you taking the Andtorian Acolytes batallion? The chaos lord can't go there as he has a mount.
Wizard heroes that are not unique and have a wounds characteristic of 9 or less gain the andtorian acolyte keyword. Neither the realm rule nor the battalion states the caster cannot be mounted. You may be confusing this with the last ghb which excluded mounted heroes
@@BattleshockWargaming What the battalion says: Champion: hero with a Wounds characteristic of less than 10, that does not have a mount (with the exception of companions) and is not Unique. So the mounted hero can't go into the battalion.
Oh snap, you are correct :) Thanks for clarifying that for us 👍
@@BattleshockWargaming Thank you for your battle reports!!! Great content :)
My favorite Channel , Big up from France , i love battles yours battles reports and armies paint’s is always amazing !! ❤
Thank you! We appreciate it. Lots of fun stuff on the way ;)
I listened to this at work so I may have missed it but did he even use Trugg's waystone?
He used it, he kept calling it the keystone lol, so you may have missed it haha
Im building my own slaves to darkness list and It looks very similar to this minus belakor and with warriors instead of the 5 knights. What would you run instead of Belakor and the endless spell? I have 620 pts left
Another sorcerer and 10 more chosen. Or a lord on demonic mount a 10 more horses
Trugg!!! I love it❤ nice battlereport as always😊
Thanks 😁One day we will get to see Trugg in melee, maybe during the next battle report lol
Awesome battle. I know its just maybe perception but felt like the StD were rolling SO HOT all game lol, making 3/5 5+ saves just huge weight of dice I felt kept the Troggoths from actually doing much this game. Would love to see a rematch!
The rolls were white hot no doubt! And there were a few times where the damage was just enough to finish off some units. Thanks for watching;)
Great video as always guys! Such clean looking armies! Just remember though to be an Andtorian Acolytes, you cant have a mount. Sadly the Kark wouldn't qualify :(
Shit! Well honestly, I didn't need the acolytes battalion, and this would have made me a 1 drop, I would have given Mike the first turn, which he did anyway lol. It's funny, we have filmed over 150 videos and still make silly mistakes. Thanks for watching and being a part of our community!
Thats not accurate, actually. They can be mounted. Its the old GHB rule that disqualified mounted units. The current GHB 100% allows it.
@@theDEUBabides They can be locus since he qualifies as a non unique hero with 9 wounds or less, but he is unable to be in the battalion because to be qualified as the "Champion" slot, he must be a hero with wounds less than 10, that does not have a mount and is not unique.
Great video as always guys! Quick question, what chaos dice are those exactly? The look amazing and would go great with my own Slaves to Darkness army.
Baronofdice.com 😉 use the promo code battleshock
Quick but fun game. More Troggs!
Soon...soon
Yeah against StD you need the fellwater troggs behind so they can unleash hell when the chosen/knights charge in.
Reducing armor saves would be very helpful. We gotta get some fellwaters!
Love both the Armies but gotta go with the Troggy bois!! Love the videos as always!
Thanks Colin! We love the Troggs! I have also been having a blast with the Slaves to Darkness reinforcements
Oh my goodness I love both of these lists and it’s finally 2 armies I have. Let’s see what happens. Troggs are my early pick but this looks like a toss up
Wow, I was very wrong. The chosen and belakor absolutely crushed the hopes and dreams of the troggs
The chosen went white hot with their damage bro! The banner of screaming flesh with demonic power is absolutely amazing! My saves were so good too.
Omg I'm PUMPED for trugg!
We are equally pumped! It has been a long time coming to get pure Troggs on the channel. Not the best sub faction, but damn fun to play.
Great looking troggoth army!
Michael appreciates the compliment :) he had a lot of fun painting them up all different colors
At what point did he realize Troggs had 4 wounds?….certainly wasn’t round 1
He always knew, but his brain glitched and he forgot how to count for a moment. Let's be real though, that last trogg was running from battleshock at the end of the turn hahaha 😆
What a great match.
Hail to the Troggoth king.
Glad you enjoyed the match up! This week Trugg takes on the Cities of Sigmar, drops on Thursday :)
troggs whaaaaat!! amazing battle report as always boys!!
Glad you enjoyed! We have some awesome monster mash match ups coming for Halloween :)
Correct me if i am wrong but, as far as I know you lose all battle traits from the battletome while using an Army of Renown, so you dont gain any benefits from the Moon.
Besides that i do enjoy your battlereports quite a lot!
The moon is in the army of renown rules.
You are right, but the moon rules are written in the AoR rules :)
That is good to know, thanks@@BattleshockWargaming
great report
did you account that trolls have 4 wounds in the first combat? looked like you took three damage per troll.
Michael fucked up lol.
and i dont think you wasted belakor but its always funny to have opponent say they doing surround and destory then u just belakor the unit
I usually will wait until something like this comes up, or belakor is in danger. I try to pick a unit and keep it shut down for 2 turns
TROGGS VS SERAPHON!!!
Troggs vs Coalesced would be fun! I need to convince Michael to buy some more big dinos :)
Great battle report, very enjoyable. The Trugg army looks great but feels a bit underwhelming.
Agreed :) Thanks for watching, we have a boatload of new stuff on the way!
Chaos Rules!!!!
Def my favorite Grand Alliance!
How did your Trugg army come to 1990 total points? Your total points is actually 1910? So you could've had at least maybe another Boss to have a 1950 list instead? Anyways you left a lot of points available is all.....
It was 1910 :)
All good, I have similar list, it's super fun! Especially if you love some combat! :)@@BattleshockWargaming
As a slaves player, this video was fucking epic 😂.
Love it when everything goes right! Chosen fighting the whole world was my favorite part lol
Hell lotta darkness.
Whole Lotta them Chaos bois
Played the Troggherd and was really dissapointed. I was torn to pieces without a wizard and with slow moving. It is better to play Troggs in other gitz factions.
Full on agree, the army is cool, but just suffers d/t no magic resistance and slow moving, expensive hammer units. You realize how fragile they are when they dont have 40 stabbas to soak up charges. Very cool army tho. Tune in on Thursday to see how they stack up against Cities of Sigmar!
Very unlucky, 10 chosen into Rockguts as a 2+/5++ should only lose 3 on average!
Yep, the Rockguts shit the bed on that one, that left the Chosen out of combat which meant they could run and charge into the rest of the army. That fight in turn 2 likely swung the game
@@BattleshockWargaming Well that and the decision not to all out defence them! That made them take around 10 more damage than they should've
Nice
Thanks !
Voting for Trogg let those Trolls Smash the Chaos Armor to bitz🙂🙂 sexy Tanktop David ❤️😉
PS you dont have to use troggs ability each Turn If you Like what you got.
21:32 If He couldnt all Out Attack you also dont have to worry about redeploy 😉
Thanks for watching ! Troggs tried, but S2D just overwhelmed them with damage while making God saves.