The Evidence Transphobes Ignore
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2022
- The founder of Transgender Trend appeared on British news with their hot transphobic take. How about we get actual trans people on TV to talk about trans people in future?!
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"teenage girls are being encouraged to have their breasts cut off" I had top surgery two weeks ago. I fought for that top surgery for ELEVEN YEARS, and I showed very early signs of being transgender. And after it all, despite how hard I worked for this, I legitimately feel guilty that I got it while some other trans people can't; I feel unworthy because I got this life-saving procedure when others might not ever be able to. I can go outside now without experiencing existential dread, and I feel like I don't deserve it because of how many other trans people also fight hard but can't get it; because of how many other trans people aren't lucky enough to be able to afford it no matter how hard they fight.
But yeah no totally we're "encouraged."
My brother in law was kicked to the curb for being trans when he was 16. 32 now. Still waiting on top surgery. His wife (my sister) is planning the biggest fucking party on earth for him when it finally happened. All bets are off for when all boobs are off. If it was as simple as walking into a hospital one day and walking out the next down two bulges the next he and I would both be saved a lot of pain.
You had a really hard time until you got your surgery, you deserved it!! Don't feel guilty!!
As a trans person who had not get top surgery yet, I feel happy everytime I see someone who got there. I feel some euphoria when I watch videos of trans people showing the results of their surgery. I hope I can get mine before my 30's, but until I do it, I find hope in other trans people.
You're a winner and you should celebrate! I'm proud of you!!
@@tjenadonn6158 I hope he can get top surgery soon and have the best party of his life!!
If they really want someone's boobs that badly, I would just mail them to them in a random package.
You might be experiencing survivor's guilt. You're not unworthy of the life-saving treatment you had to fight so hard for. Please enjoy every moment of it!
5:30 this is so true . When a “Tomboy” grows up and comes out as a trans man, transphobes are like :”oh no you’re not trans, you just don’t fit in the stereotypes ” but then a” feminine girl” comes out as trans man and they are like “You can’t be transgender, you always liked dresses ”
Same, also I knew someone who identified as loads of other stuff before realising that they were trans
Or even in the reverse, a woman who performed hypermasculinity before coming out, comes out as a trans woman, doesn't fit basically any stereotypes about either women or transgender people (other than drinking way too much Monster) and they're like "You're just a man trying to get access to women's spaces"
_Ah, double standards._
I hate them.
Yeah my stepdad has literally told me on several occasions that I've always acted like a boy and when I point out any childhood behaviors I had to the contrary he just writes it off
Along with the same people suggesting that a parent with the best intent in mind requesting an intake at a gender clinic for their child just booked them a one-way ticket to hell that will have a hospital forcefully make sure a child will fully see through with treatment even if at one point in all the interviews, questionnaires that have been filled out the child is showing signs of doubt or active desisting the feelings of gender dysphoria.
You know, those people who like to make use of the argument: "I'm so glad my daughter is not growing up now. When she was young she was a very boyish girl, liked boys clothes more and was overall just much more of a tomboy than she was girly. She told me at age 14 she was into girls. Imagine the irreversible damage I could've caused by sending her off to a gender clinic because I would've fallen victim to the trans craze! She is now a happy mother of 2!"
As if a gender clinic has no safeguards in place anymore to prevent people from entering their medical treatment programs because they probably should not be in there....
I try to spin that idea around sometimes to people by stating that if they were to use that kind of reasoning for any other specialism in a hospital that you might be able to get a referral for (let's say your child needs to see an orthopedic doctor after having taken a hard fall to one of it's knees and the pain of it won't go away and the general practitioner wants it to be examined by someone with more experience in joints/posture in general), that it would be wild that if I were to use the orthopedic doctor as an example, you'd be scared of your child having it's leg amputated.
"I'm so glad I waited because the pain eventually subsided on it's on! Can you imagine what could've happened if I called the doctor!" Unfortunately that never seems to help, the same people will then say "That's totally different"....
All trans people: "I consent"
Qualified doctors: "I consent"
Some lunatic who's weirdly obsessed with your kids: "I don't!"
Seriously, the way they fetishise the bodies of the teenage "girls" (particularly the sexual parts) is DISGUSTING.
Yeah, I dont know about those ... cis... people ...hmmmm
I also find it very poignant that they don't say shit about young trans*women*. It's always about insisting young transmen don't exist and how grown transwomen just pop out of the woodwork looking to hurt cis girls and cis women. The delusion is serious.
The ones who fetishize the bodies of girls are the autogynephiles who pretend to be women to gain access to our spaces. Look up Jessica Yaniv.
@@nukiradio Some cis people, I assume, are good. Just due to the law of large numbers at least.
It's weird that when it comes to other people's choices such as transitioning or abortion lunatics feel the need to say. Like, why? Why do they feel like it's up to some random Karen to make choices for us?
I work at a drug store. Men buy tampons or pregnancy tests for their wives or girlfriends all the time, it's not a big deal. To me, there's no difference between that and a trans man buying tampons or a pregnancy test for himself. Why would there be? I don't know their life, once they're out the door they're none of my business! Why are some people so determined to violate others for no material benefit?
And so what if women buy condoms? Sometimes you're having fun and the guy you're with forgot to bring one. Girls are allowed to have fun and it's better safe than sorry.
You'd think radical feminists would have more of a problem with the capitalist system itself than with what individuals within said capitalist system are buying. Then again given that the most famous TERF is notorious hyper-centrist Joey Rowling it's clear that they're radical in the same way that the DPRK is democratic.
I feel like the men who mock guys for getting tampons for their girlfriends are usually the ones that don't have girlfriends.
I have no idea, but transphobic people are obsessed with others genitals.
There's just so many arguments and transphobic opinions that make no sense.
I wish more people would do research and search for the truth. Or at least ask a trans person before assuming the first worst opinion put in mainstream media.
Edit: grammar, cuz I can't write apparently.
No idea , some people just like to be mad at something unimportant instead of being mad at something that really needs it
So long as they're paid for, who cares who uses them and what for?
Jamie, is it possible for you to go on shows like this? It would be wonderful to see you up there with your cited sources, your PhD, and just a lot of hard facts explaining what the reality is. I think what happens is we often see the far ends of the spectrum (both ends): either transphobes screaming, "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" or (rightfully) angry trans folks screaming, "I AM THIS WAY SO LISTEN TO ME!" You have a straightforward, calming way of saying, "No, this isn't happening and here's why. Also, this is the reality and here is why...here is the science and the receipts." It's not based on just your own experiences... you've lived it but you've also really studied it.
In other news, congrats on your LGBT award last month. I am only slightly jealous that you were handed the award by my future wife, Sue Perkins 🤣I was watching the livestream for her and screamed when you won!!
I was thinking something similar. I figured Jamie would be a perfect expert on Trans and LGBTQ+ issues. But, I don't know if youtubers in England have the same issues as those in the States where they are often seen as inferior because they are on the internet. Either way, if Jamie could ever be solicited to be on a news/educational program he'd do a great service for so many people.
Yes, I definitely agree! As someone who dosnt have any exposure to LGBT-well.. anything- Jamie has rlly helped me learn about this so much and is rlly clear with his explanations and uses simple and understandable vocabulary. I would love to see him on one of these shows^^
But i don’t think these types of news shows are interested in actually accurate information. They just want to give a platform to anyone who will make headlines and is out there enough.
Also, I don’t think it should be on trans people to fight off transphobic misinformation. We should have allies who work with trans people and do studies (Like Turban et al) on there and showing these TERFs how silly they are.
I think there's probably a bigger problem that the shows are intentionally set up that way for ratings, clicks, or to push an agenda
I'll be honest. As much as I love Jamie I don't know that he'd excel in a debate format. Not for lack of facts or being articulate. More because I don't think he'd handle direct conflict in a telegenic way. I could be wrong of course. Abigail of Philosophy Tube could be a great option for that. The lady who went to the LGB Alliance conference? I can't remember her name.
The problem with news shows like this one though isn't that there aren't any trans people or professionals in gender issues available. They just aren't being invited on. The goal is to platform anti-trans viewpoints and have it go unquestioned.
Gender is in the brain NOT the genitalia! I’m intersex and was genitally modified at 6 years old. If genitals = gender than I will be both male and female. I am a Transman and have started T this year. That woman makes me so mad!
Absolutely. Transphobes need to get it in their brains that sex and gender are both bimodal, not binary, and don't always match up evenly with each other. If they want to be compaigning against young girls being forced into unnecessary surgeries they should really be compaigning against IGM, which is an actual problem.
Gender is in the genitalia not the brain, biological physicality vs psychology. Brain waves may say your brain is more female as a biological boy, but the brain will never have the power to Change the anatomy of physical body or is dna.
Brain waves will never Change the physical body
I am so sorry you are forced to go through a non-necessary surgery at six years old.
Do you feel that your genital modification should have waited longer for you to be able to choose your own gender, or what in your experience do you believe the best course of action would be for parents with an intersex child?
I have very limited knowledge on the topic, and have never had the privilege to talk with someone who actually is intersex.
Please do not feel obligated to respond if that would make you uncomfortable! Thank you so much for sharing your story, and congratulations on starting T ☺️❤️
The only children who are getting surgery are intersex babies-and that gender assignment choice is made on their behalf. So let’s talk about that.
Fr though, transphobes seem to get real quiet when a literal BABY is having what basically amounts to gender reassignment surgery to correct something that may not even be a problem.
Note: if whatever the presentation (edited to replace a possibly triggering word) is will actual cause genuine medical problems, then yeah surgery makes sense
@@howlinghellgar2214 I respectfully suggest the descriptive word used in your ‘note’ might be better termed as presentation…it’s less triggering.
@@erinmcgrathejm4985 Thank you! I’ll edit it now
A friend of mine actually stumbled upon Transgender Trend's official website a month or two ago and showed it to me. He was quite confused by their intentions and asked me to read their official description. Neither of us knew they were a transphobic organization, and at first when I read through it, there were some points I actually started to agree with, such as the fact that you can be a girl and like masculine things and vice-versa without "automatically being transgender". But the further I read, the more disgusted I became, because their site's not as immediately transphobic as this interview revealed it to be, at least not to my friend. It was of course words like "castration" and "cutting off [sex-characteristics)" that really tipped me off to what their stance really is.
I'm trans, and a firm believer and advocate for trans rights and healthcare, but there're transphobic people and organizations who can draw anyone, especially unaware cis people, in with carefully crafted arguments, not just the obvious bigots we like to make fun of. No matter how progressive and supportive you are of the lgbt+ community, be safe, smart, and make sure to challenge these dangerous people.
Great comment.
To fight transphobia we need to support both the trans and detrans communities as rightful parts of the LGBTDQIA+ movement and let them have their say so that they are not used by transphobes.
TullipR - Detrans Man, substack
"How I Got Here: Trans OCD & Internet Addiction
A Detrans Mans Story About Trans OCD and Internet Addiction"
Well worth a read.
"you can be a girl and like masculine things and vice-versa"
This is a common example used by those who don't understand gender issues. They think that "identifying as female" means "liking the color pink", so they come to the conclusion that a trans woman is just "a man who likes girly things", and that trans activists are forcing little boys to take puberty blockers as soon as they decide to play with dolls instead of trucks.
Of course, gender is far more complex than that. Some men, both cis and trans, can like things associated with femininity, and women likewise can have masculine interests. And what is and isn't associated with femininity/masculinity can vary greatly depending on culture (the commonly cited example is that the gender connotations of pink and blue used to be reversed).
@@frankgradus9474 I think detrans people still Fall under the T.
It’s always the same logic with transphobes “we aren’t transphobes, we just want girls to be girls, whatever of their femininity”
Look at Matt Walsh’s interview on dr. Phil, or his thousands of documentaries I guess.
It’s what TERF is about, it’s saying girls to be however they want, but becoming a man is bad.
@@frankgradus9474 As long as he's not transphobic, ok.
Do you remember the bus that once said 'some people are gay, get over it'? I think we need another one that says 'some people are trans, get over it'. The arguments put forward by this woman are barely coherent, as well as including *actual* *lies* and misinformation. My kid is trans. Never has there been any 'encouragement' or anything like to change. It's hard enough getting people to use the correct pronouns. Who is doing the 'encouraging' when there's so much transphobia?!
Those posters actually do exist! My school had them up in the corridors and this was about 4-5 years ago.
And I can confirm that no amount of encouragement works. I'm a trans and bi parent of two boys who are cis and straight. I obviously went wrong somewhere. Normie conversion therapy is an option I'm considering as all the homo/transphobes seem so convinced that gay/trans conversion therapy works.
Great point.
I'd only add to that: "some people are trans and some detrans, get over it"
Kids should know of both - trans and detrans pple.
We need to support both the trans and detrans communities as rightful parts of the LGBTDQIA+ movement and let them have their say. Sometimes the desire for transition might be misguided by not showing the other side of the coin to children.
TullipR - Detrans Man, substack
"How I Got Here: Trans OCD & Internet Addiction
A Detrans Mans Story About Trans OCD and Internet Addiction"
Well worth a read.
@@alexferguson5346 clearly older people haven't seen them lol
@@alexferguson5346 top tier shit
It is really frustrating how the people who present their opinions as facts get all the air-time in mainstream media, and people like Jamie, who actually knows what he is saying, and has the references to scientific articles to prove it, only get their voices heard on RUclips - and even here only if you know where to look.
Working as intended
Define gender
@@cajunking5987 google's right there, mate
@@cajunking5987
In English, the four genders are masculine, feminine, common, and neuter.
@@BooksandBuns you ain’t google.
"Your gender has to match your personality"? Da fuq?
My gender identity is agender. My personality is overly creative goth weirdo who loves space & wants to be a Lovecraftian monster in my next life. Those 2 things are not related in any capacity. How tf would they ever be? What?
You sound like a cool 😎 person!
Nothing she said made any sense anyway so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't understand why people like her have the need and the energy to hate on trans people so much, and with such nonsense arguments too.
Uh, if ur agender then you can’t have a personality because ur personality has to match ur gender /s
@@okamiangles7121 Thanks! I do my best to be! I'm also aroace. My sister & I joke that I'm Queer Triple A or a AAA battery
Exactly! I'm an enby with a very traditionally masculine personality. No, personality and gender are not linked in any way. Also, my dad and my brother both have more traditionally feminine personalities and they're both guys.
My grandma: (dead name) is being pressured into being transgender!
Me: THEY ARE BEING BULLIED FOR NOT BEING CIS!
@@marioluigi9599 why does it matter?
@@marioluigi9599 not saying you can't ask just saying what does that information add to the conversation. No need to get angsty.
@@marioluigi9599 I am a woman. The subject of my post is nonbianary
@@marioluigi9599 no, my grandma is cis. I was actually talking about the dead name referenced in the post
@@marioluigi9599 also, if I was enby I wouldn't be a girl.
8 months of seeing a psychiatrist and he never once mentioned medically transitioning to me. He waited for ME to bring it up because that way he wouldn't be influencing my decision. So much for "encouraging" people to transition!
@@potatosalad6252 I said nothing about schools. I make no comments about schools since I don't have kids.
@@potatosalad6252 LOL No, I don't know, and besides schools are different everywhere. Do you have a video or a lesson plan or something for the kind of lesson you're talking about? Because as a trans person I would be interested in knowing exactly what they are teaching.
@@potatosalad6252 I am not a "groomer." I transitioned because I HAD to. It was not easy or fun and no one should do it unless they have to. And I would tell these girls that. Don't assume that all trans people think the same.
Anyway, relax. Most girls who talk this way do NOT end up medically transitioning. There is no need for you to panic about this.
@@potatosalad6252 ALL I can say is LOL again. I can't stand children, so I'm definitely not a "pedo." I don't even want to be near the little bastards.
"This is a bigger problem than anything else happening in society right now" Really? Bigger than people starving and freezing due to the cost of living crisis? Bigger than Putin? Well if that's what you think, it says a lot about you. I am no longer interested in what you have to say.
kids: *getting puberty blockers, because of early puberty*
transphobes: i sleep
transgirl: *socially transitions*
transphobes: can you believe THIS IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE?? he is literally DEAD
*insert the darth vader no here*
Social 👏 transition 👏 is 👏 completely 👏 reversible 👏
The rare cases of precocious puberty are sometimes treated with hormone blockers: a somatic treatment for a somatic health issue, because the child may start puberty at age 4! The risks and benefits are weighed up and a decision is made for every individual child. That's got nothing to do with having a gender goblin.
Here’s a fact. Ucla Williams institute
Page 9
Suicide for people in closet 35 percent
Suicide for trans who socially transition, 45 percent
That’s a 33 percent increase just coming out
Transphobes don’t seem to believe that puberty blockers have existed before about 10 years ago
even before my gender was any question, as a teenage "girl", i wanted to "get my breasts cut off" (dds) but nobody ever encouraged me lmao they asked why i wore a binder 🙄
I've wanted my internal reproductive organs out of my body since I was 11 (im currently 16), but according to my parents I need to wait until I'm in my 20s to seek a hysterectomy because I might "regret it"
and yet people think trans kids are forced to get surgeries and medically transition, f outta here with that
@@_peeblar_
The only thing I'll "regret" is not getting hrt earlier in life 😔
@@Skylah exactly!
@@_peeblar_ for a moment I didn't see the word "reproductive" in that sentence and got concerned 😳
@@IgirlbossedTooCloseToTheSun I mean dying is pretty fun /s
I find it attrocious that in the US I, a 31 year old Non Binary human, can't even get top surgery without 2 letters from mental health professionals. Oh, they have to be doctorate level. Then I have to somehow prove that I've "been living as my preferred gender" for over a year. Then, then I can get top surgery. Meanwhile at 18 people can get BBL's, any sort of facial plastic surgery, and even liposcution and breast implants (which have been PROVEN to be bad for the body medically speaking). All they have to do is walk in and ask. W. T. F.
I feel you, the UK is exactly the same :/
Damn!! I never thought about it like that!!
@@abcxyz2927 no. What they're actually saying, if you cared to read, is that in any other circumstance we recognise as a society that legal adults (18+) can independently make decisions that affect their own body, without having to "prove" to anyone that those decisions are good. Except this doesn't apply to trans people. Sounds a bit like discrimination to me, doesn't it?
@@CapitanNaufrago this is why we have informed consent. I disagree, you don't want the doctor "to be sure", you want the doctor to provide accurate and complete information on the risks of the procedure, and then allow the patient to make their own choice. because it's their own damn body.
It's like how doctors refuse to tie up a young woman's tubes because she will "change her mind."
"should trans people have rights? here we've assembled a diverse panel of cishet men and women to discuss this problem..."
Worded greatly, that’s basically it, yeah
It’s literally the same energy as “do women like other women? Here’s what a man has to say!”
@@howlinghellgar2214 YES
@@howlinghellgar2214 what is a woman?
@@transwomenaremale As always, this question has nothing to do in this conversarion lmao
On detransitioning: something many people ignore is that a a good portion of those that detransition cite external factors as their reason to do so (and those can include societal/familial reasons). So a lot of detransitioners wouldn't have detransitioned if you know, the world wasn't so transphobic.
this point fails because the reason lots of people stop smoking and/or vaping is due to external factors. You had a good argument but attacked the wrong bit, still interesting fact. Wish you the best of luck
@@Eric-gw1uo That isn't comparable. To name some, external factors for discontinuing smoking or vaping is the prohibition for the health, convenience, and safety of others, basically, the reasons people would stop smoking is because it affects others negatively, and that's reinforced socially and legally. Being transgender does not hurt anyone. As OP said, a good portion of detransitioners can have sorrowful reasons like negative societal pressure. Their argument and facts seemed strong, I don't see your issue with it.
@@booperdooper9762 my issue prolly was that it felt like it was going in an R.M.I way but actually gave a regular answer, Hence the "you attacked the wrong bit" but I'm just guessing
The whole 'news' report is very upsetting, but the bit about cutting off breasts pissed me off especially. Anyone with breasts of their own should immediately know that's a lie. How can this woman ignore how difficult it is for even a cis woman to get breast reduction surgery? I've talked to grown woman sent to counseling before a doctor would agree to the procedure! Even with severe back pain or a history of cancer she's obviously insane to want to get rid of those beautiful meat sacks, right!? And don't get me started on insurance...
Fox News is just as bad....
Are encouraged to do non reversable things.
I'm sorry transphobes.
I've been under "further evaluation" for hormones for 4 years.
My parents have monthly presentations about how "you need to accept the current state of your situation as final".
I'm sorry you think the whole body altering thing is bad, but i am slowly getting more dysphoric and overall worse due to my body keep developing in the way that feels wrong and bad for me.
I'm not trans for attention, I'm not trans for any benefit in society.
I just want to be able to sit in my own room without wanting to rip my skin off my body.
It's bizarre how giving a trans person medical treatment is creating "irreversible changes," but nary a peep about cis or people going through adolescence or living a post puberty life.
@@saraquill um…maybe because puberty is a totally NATURAL process? Have you considered that?
@@transwomenaremale Cancer is also totally natural, but I don't see any qualms about treating children for that when it interferes with their wellbeing. Where are the CERFs eh?
@@tjenadonn6158 cancer is a disease. Puberty is not.
@@transwomenaremale I have considered that. I've concluded that as with hemlock, belladonna and digitalis, natural does not equal good.
I wish "girls are encouraged to cut their breasts off" was actually true because as an NB person it would make my life so much easier. because there's no one way of how a non-binary person looks, gender affirming surgery is not covered by insurance here (Germany) Top surgery is around 5000€ depending on where in the country you live. and good luck finding a doctor who'd agree to a hysterectomy or anything similar if you're under 40 and don't have kids.
if I ever win the lottery, trust me you'll find me at a clinic the day that money arrives in my bank account
yes please.. I'm trying to do a genom test about the breast cancer gene (for real cancer reasons) and I almost hope it would turn out positive so I can finally cut them off. I absolutely don't want to end like my mom plus I hate my breasts since the minute I was told they will grow soon.
@@Mondkreischer same, I'm also looking into getting tested, I'm not sure about breast cancer specifically but I have a few family members with cancer so better safe than sorry
@@iniyamaI also live in germany, you need to fulfil some criteria to get this test.. it's easy to google. I think I could get it, I'll try end of this months to talk with my doc
Try out a go fund me. maybe that helps.
@@Mondkreischer Can I have your Chest if you dont want them?
When they say "it's ok to be a masculine girl/tomboy!" Well, when I was a kid the same kind of people in my life were constantly pressuring me to act more "lady like" whenever my behavior/attitude/looks didn't match their idea of how I should present ...I felt nauseated whenever they'd use terms like that to describe me. I lived 35ish years trying to make the term "tomboy" feel like it fit me...to grow out of not feeling ok with who everyone said I was. Why did gendered language feel so gross when applied to me to the point of almost gagging on it when I had to use it to describe myself? Why wasn't the issue "fixed" by just trying to accept who I surely must be for so many years!? Well, it turns out I'm nonbinary. I'm almost 40 years old and just had top surgery after years in therapy finally understanding myself..and there are many older than me who finally have the words to describe ourselves. This is not just a kids' issue but thank goodness kids have more resources and understanding than when I was a kid! There's still a long way to go and I'll be standing right beside the lgbtq+ kids fighting for all our rights together!
I was a tomboy as a kid and hated girl stereotypes, but I never questioned my gender. I think gender roles and gender identity are two separate things and to pretend that they're the same is harmful to trans, NB and other groups. Transphobes often use examples like myself to try and disprove stories like yours, when they are completely different. You can be a tomboy happy to be a girl, or you can be a child who was identified as female at birth but feels like a boy, which is a completely different thing even if two 8 yo children, one a tomboy and one trans, might act and look very similar. It's what they feel that counts.
You rock! I’m glad you were able to find yourself and feel more comfortable in who you are now!
@@kathilisi3019 I get where you are coming from and agree that gender roles and gender identity are different, but for me, I didn’t draw that conclusion from OP’s original comment. I think the point is more that transphobes will claim that it’s fine for AFABs to be a tomboy, but in reality they aren’t okay with that either. They may be okay with a little bit of deviation, but overall they do want people to fit within a certain framework of conformity that doesn’t make them feel “icky”.
I call this kind of stuff from transphobes/misogynists "The Transmasc Gender Cycle of Shit", and it goes like this:
1) Upon coming out as non-binary and bisexual, the insistence from other people that "Women can be masculine! Women can be gay and butch! You should just try to be a tomboyish woman!"
2) Upon using terms like "woman" for yourself due to the peer-pressure in point 1, the praise; "Oh, you're such a modern woman for breaking gender stereotypes! So feminist! You're redefining what it means to be a woman!"
3) More praise, this time for every time you happen to be feminine; "That skirt looks lovely on you! You should wear mascara every day!" Eventually, the praise stops; "Real women are feminine and soft! Women can't do sports, that's unladylike! You should make your voice higher! You should wear dresses and make-up more! You need to change, or else you won't be able to find a man!"
4) Upon giving up trying to be a woman (as defined by other people) and identifying/re-identifying as non-binary, the cycle starts over again: "But women can be masculine! Why can't you be a masculine woman?"
Of course women (including trans women!) can be masculine while still comfortably being women - part of the problem is that the world is INCREDIBLY hostile to all gender-nonconforming people, including both non-binary people AND masculine women. The same people who insist you "should" be as masculine cis women are usually the same people who harass masculine cis women for being masculine.
Darcey Mussey, when I read people using arguments like that, accompanied by the verbal sigh of relief that parents with daughters are "happy their daughters are not growing up now, because with their behavior and all of the things happening now, I probably would've sent them off to a gender clinic and to think of the damage I could've caused is just incomprehensible!"
It's good that you shared the opposite of that experience, no matter how awful it was, especially because if parents were to overreact, or at least by seriously misjudging a behavioral trait that might not have anything to do with their child being transgender, it's typically suggested how the intake at a gender clinic should be considered a one-way ticket to hell...
I am not trans myself, I am just a pretty old cis gay man who is fascinated by your videos.
Two of my best friends were trans women. Back in the 70´s the *only* possibility for them to get gender reassignment surgery, was to travel to Casablanca. It was *EXTREMELY* expensive and to be able to afford surgery they both had to prostitute themselves.
It was an absolutely horrific time for both of them and they suffered a lot (leaving aside the suffering society back them caused them).
Only one of them is still alive today, the other just couldn't take it anymore.
Trans healthcare is so absolutely crucial, lifesaving and necessary.
I LOVE the way you try to educate ppl. THANK YOU!
my boyfriend came out s trans at 13 and wasnt able to get on hormones till he was almost 17. he wasnt able to get blockers. it pisses me off when transphobes act like hormones and surgery are just being handed out to anyone, let alone kids. even as an older teen it can be very difficult to get any of that.
"chemical castration of children" does she even know what shes saying? thats straight up made up
@@davidlillecrapp2960 it’s concerning how obsessed you are with what other people do to their bodies.
@@davidlillecrapp2960 Maybe in the fantasyland that you reside in, but not out here in the real world.
@@margotpreston out of all the people, you talk about the „real world“. How ironic.
@Marianne Peddling lies? Read Lisa Littman's "study", which is the sole source of, & the only "evidence" for, the invented concept of "Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria" (which every professional psychological & medical body rejects). If you won't: they didn't speak to a single trans kid. They _only_ interviewed their parents- AND, they ONLY recruited parents from an anti-trans website. You'd fail highschool science with that "methodology", at least in Australia...
I just want to say Jamie thanks for making these videos, not only for they make me feel accepted as a young queer person but they are very interesting and educational and spread very important information. So thanks Jamie
After watching more of this video, the whole idea that kids are forced to be trans makes no sense. I'm a trans kid who wants to socially transition and I'm in the closet, and I can promise you that none of the transition I want to due to my parents, even though they're incredibly supportive of queer people.
Spreading messages like that is not only incorrect but can be damaging.
Thanks for making this video to spread this important message Jamie
Edit: eyy 50 likes already? What happened
Edit: over 300 likes??? Thanks all!!
Edit: bro this is the most likes I've ever gotten (and in such a short space of time!)
Edit: we're close to 400 likes =0
Edit: over 400 likes???? (Also I think a war has started in the replies)
Edit: yea a war has started a war in replies (proceed with caution)
Edit: OMG OVER 441 LIKES? TYSM!
What happened is you made a good comment! I hope one day you're able to safely transition and live your best life
@@annikan42 tysm that really made me smile:)
Don’t be fooled. Jaime simply regurgitates TRA rhetoric, none of which is backed by actual science. She’s full of shit and most of her arguments are based on or variations of “trans women ahhhhhhhhh women”.
my dad is supportive of me but he really doesn't say anything about transitioning n stuff. i usually have to bring things up multiple times to even get him to remember :')
@@HopeIsADrug11037 aw that doesn't sound fun:(
I know that it can be annoying when people to tell you to look on the bright side of things, but I'm glad your dad supports you somewhat
I know it's probably not much consolation bit I support you and always will and wish you luck in your transition
Jammi, thank you. I am a Christian who is going through really hard things right now. After getting out of conversion therapy, I have realized I'm not really a boy, and my whole church has disowned me. Your channel is the only comfort I have left. They have stolen everything.
Follow up: Thank you everyone for your love and support! Some day (maybe), the US law and laws of other nations shall protect gay and transgender youth. It's only a matter of time. Now I'm gonna contemplate my need for therapy.
I hope you have a safe place to stay. I'm assuming you're still living with legal guardian(s) from mention of conversion therapy. Look into lgbtq friendly shelters in your area if there's a possibility of being kicked out.
Know that you have a HUGE community of support here and in other places online. I don't have specific ones off the top of my head, but maybe someone else will respond with some suggestions. I'm not sure if it's possible to direct message on YT anymore, but if it's still a thing, you can reach out if you want to.
You will survive this, I believe in you.
I'm a trans Christian theologian (yes!). You're not alone. That 'church' that was supposed to love you is the one that's sinning. There are places and people that will embrace you as you are. If you need/want trans- and queer-affirmative Christianities, I recommend starting with QSpirit's and Paula Stone Williams' blogs. And if you're done with it all (Christianity/religion, that is), that's good, too. Be well.
I am a progressive Christian who believes that everyone has the right to be who they are. If you ever in Yorkshire and need a hug, a shoulder to cry on, someone to rant at, or even just a coffee give me a shout. Please remember that Faith and Religious institutions are very different. God will always love you even when flawed humans forsake you. Hugs X
I'm sorry you had to go through conversion therapy.
this breaks my heart. I hope you find happiness and a better community to support you
How come every time we (millennials and elder gen Z) listen to our children's thoughts, feelings, and concerns, especially about their body's, it is seen as a current trend? How about recognizing that the suppression didn't work, the torture didn't work, and the religion didn't work and it only scarred a population. And instead of wanting our children to be struggling with their mind, body, and spirit, we decided to acknowledge that differences do exist, nothing is wrong (meaning it is not wrong to identify in a diverse way including gender, sexuality, ethnicity, race, and culture), with differences, and work on ourselves so we can further growth in safety and peace in the future. The current trend leads to hearing, educating, compassion, understanding, and true love for another Human's existence.
Millennials are killing the mental healthcare industry by being good parents.
A lot of other people got treated poorly in the past like this. Maybe some day we can work towards a world where trans people are accepted too.
i want to believe that'll happen.
Hopefully, and not just trans people, but all of us in the queer community are accepted
Most of those "lots of other people" still don't get treated fairly. Racialized people, people with disabilities, LGB... still loads of discrimination, hate, and violence. Why it's so important for marginalized people to stand together. Separately we are small minorities, together we can enact change.
A lot of the rhetoric that transphobes us is almost exactly what was said about lesbians and gay men back in the day. Now that it’s less socially acceptable to shit on them so publicly, their new and easy target is trans people. These people are cowards and don’t even believe their views. They just want to bully anyone they can.
So let's go!
looks like it's time for another reminder: trans people aren't hurting kids simply by being trans. no one is forcing children to transition. trans kids exist, and their bodily autonomy should be respected.
idk how often this has to be reiterated to get it through some people's skulls.
Nobody is forcing kids to be trans any moreso than people are forcing kids to be French. We don't want your kids to be trans, we want your trans kids to be happy.
@@tjenadonn6158 Exactly.
You should check out the FDA’s new warning just issued like yesterday for puberty blockers
@@Wolli6666 you should check out the rates of suicide among trans people
@@Wolli6666 Certain mood stabilizers have worse side effects than that and we still those to kids. Being put on Abilify while she was in puberty is a big part of why my sister has had multiple miscarriages, and that's still on the market. If you care about protecting children at least protect them from suffering rather than protecting them from happiness.
I just don't know where they get this idea that people are being urged into treatment or that you can just stroll into a clinic and get surgery the same day. I have been on a waiting list for a year now to just go and talk to a psychologist that has to be the one sending a referral to the gender clinic. And whenever that is done, I will probably be on a waiting list for another 1-2 years before I even get my first meeting at the clinic.
@@tomsweder7459 That's why you need to wear the camo dress.
They made it up to sow fear of the other in order to bolster their own hate
Have you considered lobbying for you to get onto shows like this to make sure a fair debate can be health where the voice of trans people is heard?
This ^^ Jamie could do so much more with his platform especially considering how he's a doctor
@@transwomenaremale did.
Did you not watch the video?
Like... all of the evidence of transitioning leading to better mental health and less likely to be depressed and not be fucking miserable?
You all claim that you can easily disprove us but you dont even listen to our arguments.
Pretty childish of you, actually.
@@RosieGoldie85 what is a woman?
@@transwomenaremale A woman is an adult female human. Prior to adulthood, a female human is referred to as a girl (a female child or adolescent). The plural women is sometimes used in certain phrases such as "women's rights" to denote female humans regardless of age.
Your welcome
@@transwomenaremale Someone who identifies as one.
Transphobes and LGBTQ+phobes in general (not saying that trans is not lgbtq+, ofc) are just. weird as hell.
Right?! Imagine caring so much about what adults are doing in their own bedrooms - or what's in other people's pants - that you're incapable of separating non-hetero orientations and non-cis gender identities from intercourse.
Lmao when I first read this I totally missed both of the “phobes” in your comment (because I can’t read ig) and I was about ready to throw hands
TRANS OS LITERALLY IN THE ACRONYM
@@howlinghellgar2214 I hope you acquired those hands by legitimate means.
@@tjenadonn6158 Oh u know just the underground gay black market
Those kind of people so conveniently "forget" that trans people exist in any country or culture (its's not the good ol' evil woke west agenda) but the treatment can be very different. I see very similar, painfully regurgitated, comments on news sites in my country about "my body my choice, but ohh we can force kids to take hormones and go to surgery".
Hormone treatment for trans people here I don't think even exists, let alone surgery, you literally have to travel abroad. I guarantee if a trans person comes to a doctor for an appointment to seek hormones, the doctor wil either be very confused or just think they're a lunatic, like "we don't do that here darling". That's how non-existent treatment is. The very best they can get is a competent psychiatrist that's had at least one other trans patient, and that's already wishful thinking
I recently learned that the Kannada language, which is still one of the most widely spoken languages on the Indian subcontinent, originally had nine grammatical genders. Explain that TERFs: their pronouns are older than ours.
@@tjenadonn6158 that's so cool! thanks for that info
@@disgrace1309 Really the concept of gender within linguists is a wild little rabbit hole within a rabbit hole to jump down. My main area of interest within linguistics is constructed languages, and it's amazing how they're evolving with the bettering of our understanding of gender and sexuality. Esperanto for instance, which is the most widely spoken constructed language on earth and one in which I personally happen to be fluent, originally had only three third person singular pronouns: the masculine "li," the feminine "ŝi" (pronounced exactly like the feminine third person singular pronoun in English,) and the inanimate "ĝi" (equivalent to "it.") However since the 1970s and especially since the rise of the internet the third person genderqueer pronoun "ri" has been gaining popularity among young Esperantists, especially among people who are raised speaking Esperanto as one of their native languages. It differs slightly in usage from the singular "they" in English however: typically if you're referring to a single person of unknown gender identity you would still use "ili," only using "ri" to refer to people who are known to be nonbinary. The remarkable thing is that this has been completely grassroots from Esperanto users on up: the language's regulatory body, La Akademio de Esperanto, suggests the use of "ŝli" instead of "ri," but nobody actually goes along with it and most Esperanto dictionaries printed go with the latter instead of the former. Esperanto is often held as the ultimate case study of a constructed language transitioning into a living language, and this is just one example of many that can over pointed to of it growing and not staying strictly within the rules laid out in its foundational documents.
@@tjenadonn6158 Kannada had nine classes of words which linguists classified as grammatical genders. However, only two of those were used for individual people; masculine and feminine. Grammatical gender usually corresponds to sex when referring to people, however in gendered languages inanimate object, concepts, and actions all have a defined gender. In my language for example "government" is a female word, while "little girl" is of neuter gender. Obviously, this is not related to sex or "gender identity".
I’m cis and straight but I will always support the lgbtq:) I just want everyone to feel heard and happy:)
Ok. I'm making you an honorary rainbow 🌈 person.
There may be glitter.
Thanks for being an ally! Here is your honorary rainbow cloak 🏳️🌈
Based and redpilled
@The Werewolf of Somalia she isn't queer tho?
@The Werewolf of Somalia JK isn’t queer though, she’s just a transphobe.
Have you noticed the blatant Transmisia/Transphobia with “chemical castration”? So, they are sticking to the virility of AMABs. You can be Trans through a number of ways. It’s not just surgery.
Although as someone who is both trans and antinatalist I was planning to get vasectomized long before I decided to upgrade it to an orchi. Sterilization isn't a bad thing if it's done with the fully informed consent of the person being sterilized. Total Bodily Autonomy now!
“Gender = Personality”?
I can just imagine someone taking a personality test and being told:
“hmm yep, this says right here that you must be… Gender fluid! congrats!”
Edit: Please don’t argue, please be respectful of other peoples identities and don’t be transphobic in the replies. This is supposed to be a safe-space channel for LGBTQ+ so please just leave people alone or listen to them.
(I’m not genderfluid btw! I wanted to include and spread awareness of more genders which is why I put genderfluid)
“Q3: On a scale of 1-10, how adventurous are you?”
After finishing the quiz:
Your personality type is Non-Binary!
young eggs in 2015 going online to look for answers
I think that actually exists. It's one of those weird ads I get. Like, I don't think someone's personality determines their gender. If someone tried determining the genders of me and my immediate family using our personalities, they'd get it all wrong.
That might be fun in a really dry humor/sarcastic sort of way (full disclosure- gender ambivalent sort of maybe non-binary but definitely very chaotic pan person here, and I would totally screw with the test for the amusement factor if I didn't like the results)
Lmao
I figured out I was autistic 10 years before I also figured out I was trans, and ... it's ridiculous to me how many of the 'anti' arguments I just see repeated. There was supposedly an autism epidemic, autism being diagnosed too much (nevermind that it took me 6 more years to get an actual diagnosis), it was a 'trend' ...
And above all, it was always 'speak about' and not 'speak with'. I don't even want to argue anymore - if I get to know an ableist or transphobe, by now I'm just going to look at what they actually want to distract from, why they're so insistent on things - mostly, if they want to push a right wing agenda through these means.
I noticed that as well! The arguments overlap so much.
I am autistic too, I figured out first that I was trans than that I was autistic.
They're going to focus on the *outright* false idea that trans kids are forced to medically transition without consent or understanding but when intersex *babies* and children are forced to get surgery to change their parts *without consent* where are they?? Could it be that they *don't* actually care about children getting surgeries on external and internal reproductive organs unless it's for trans teenagers of sound mind who have had *several* psych evaluations and have the consent of them and their parents.
But it's about the kids?
unfortunately i think these same people are in the "it's in the child's best interest" camp when it comes to intersex like, they probably believe "if they aren't normal they'll get confused :(" even though i'm pretty sure that one boy that discovered he had a working uterus was confused to fuck and back regardless lol
they're also suspiciously quiet about unnecessary/irreligious circumsisions which are only popular among us gentiles because some guy was like "it'll help stop masturbation :)" and we all know masturbation is bad or something for some arbitrary reason or another that's totally worth excising functional healthy skin (which these same people love to bitch about trans people "cutting off") off of an infant's dick long before they can make the decision as to whether they want that done or not
basically, they know. they're hypocrites.
Just a reminder
Trans fems, you look pretty and I hope you have a good day
Trans mascs, you look handsome and I hope you have a good day
People outside the binary, you look positively perplexing and I hope you have a good day
Xenogender people and non dysphoric trans people, your gender is valid and I hope you have a good day
Allys, I can’t tell you how much the little things mean and I hope you have a good day
(If this made your day please let me know it means a lot)
This did in fact make my day (*ˊᗜˋ*)ᵗᑋᵃᐢᵏ ᵞᵒᵘ
I do not look pretty today but thank you
Tysm :’D I needed this today
@@TheGirl_Kisser even if you can't see it today, I'm sure you look beautiful
I’m a trans man, sitting here in an old t-shirt and sweat pants, and yet I feel less dysphoric already. Thank you 🏳️⚧️
Thank you once again not only for exposing an organisation's transphobic aims, but also for your research into academic literature and citations.
If you wanted to support fairness for women in sports, maybe start working on the sexism, rampant abuse (by trainers and parents) as well as lack of infrastructure. Trans People do not adversely affect women, as Jamie said.
It doesn't work online because of Google but I've once had the opportunity to confront an anti-trans person who brought up Lia Thomas winning *one* race. I asked them, "Well, who are the women who came 2nd, 3rd, and 4th who would have had a better result without Lia?" Of course they couldn't name even one of them. My response was, "Well, you don't seem to actually care about women's sports if you can't name even one of the women who would have benefited from Thomas not being in the race. This isn't about female athletes at all for you. It's about being anti-trans."
@@CorwinFound Erica Sullivan came third. her opinion on the matter is:
"like anyone else in this sport, Lia has trained diligently to get to where she is and has followed all of the rules and guidelines put before her ... she doesn't win every time. And when she does, she deserves, like anyone else in this sport, to be celebrated for her hard-won success, not labeled a cheater simply because of her identity."
Lia Thomas won 1 race, but nobody talks about Kate Douglass who won 7 (3 solo, 4 relays).
@@CorwinFound Well said!
@@transwomenaremale Stop going into the men's changing rooms then. Also it's funny how little concern I've heard about this from actual athletes. When Michelle Mouton, the greatest motorsportswoman to ever get into the cockpit, was zipping around a rally stage with nothing between her skull and the trees but the minimal safety equipment provided by the Group B class cars you bet your ass she had more important things on her mind than what was going on in her competition's pants. Actual athletes care about the competition, not about cocks or the lack thereof.
@@transwomenaremale You harassing and making someone who probably wants nothing to do with you uncomfortable, is encroaching on their rights… Kind of full of yourself to assume that a random woman is in the changing room just so she can look at you 😐
It’s obvious she didn’t do her research before going on live tv. Jamie is right about everything said in this video and I’m glad he made it.
Edit: If you are a transphobe/homophobe (in other words if you have harmful, utterly stupid opinions) then do not reply to this comment. Thank you x
I agree! ❤️
Somehow I feel like transphobes will take your polite request as a challenge instead of respecting it as a boundary....
@@m0L3ify true, but they often reply anyway.
@@Mockingjay975 I have the opposite problem. They often show up in my reply threads when I comment on Jaime's videos and get pretty nasty. It makes me wonder why they're even here except that they're trolls. They clearly don't enjoy the video topics.
Oh she’s a professional liar and science denier. It’s like having a Flat Earther or Creationist on the news. She’s the one with an ideology.
I'm cis and gay, male. Transphobia make me feel ill. Sexuality is complicated and speaking as a biologist, it's not at all surprising we have so many different instantiations of it. It's an absolute bugger that the "correct" sexuality is elevated above the "incorrect." It's just bigotry and ignorance rolled into one poo.
I'm with you. I'm a cis straight woman, and transphobia makes me angry. Anti-LGBT+ rhetoric makes me furious.
Just let people be! It's got nothing to do with anyone else.
Trans isn’t a sexuality what are you on about
Yeah, same.
@@cajunking5987 We're standing up for the other people in our lives.
@@squeaktheswan2007 trans isn’t a sexuality what are you on abot
To be honest watching Jammi's videos feels like I have a big brother that'll stand up for me when people push me down.
Thank you for being some light in this dark world
You have LOTS of brothers, sisters and siblings that would stand up for you, my fellow Queer. You just haven't found enough of them yet. In the meantime, I'll send you a HUGE virtual hug to help ease your pain 🤗
@@enbyarchmage Thank you! :D
Long awnser: the scientific proof that trans people exist and the several peer reviewed large scale studies showing that trans people exist.
Short awnser: all of it
What science says that? The research showing brains are in fact NOT gendered that people like Jamie keep lying about?
The scientific proof is soft science questionnaire based surveys
If anything your hypothesis that trans people exist is identical to the hypothesis that anorexic people exist
Jeez, I knew when I was 5 (1963) I wasnt male. I spent the next 20 odd years trying to be the stereotypical male, and it didnt work, just messed me up. I didnt even know trans was a thing, till I got sent to a psychiatrist when I was 14 who told my parents I was going through a phase, and get me doing macho things. So at 18 I did the most macho thing ever and joined the British military
No one pushed me, no one forced a trans "agenda" on me. And if they had I probably wouldnt have believed them because it would have sounded so messed up in the hetro environment that was a constant in those days.
Transkids do know from early on what they are and they should be given help and understanding to get them to a point in their young adult lives that they can make the right decisions for them self.
I agree that “children are being taught that they are a boy or a girl based off of really regressive stereotypes” but those really regressive stereotypes just happen to be only basing gender off of only their genitals and what some random doctor said when you were born.
Funny that transphobes also complain about regressive stereotypes when they’re the ones who will constantly reduce women to their reproductive facets and say that ‘only women have breasts, periods, uteruses and vaginas’. They are perfectly happy to cry in feminism when it suits them and just as quick to discard the parts that inconveniently don’t support their nonsense.
I've been seeing the GIC for 10 years, I'm post op, yet still haven't received most of my treatments, I started this in my 20's I'm now nearly 40. I wish it was as simple as the transphobes claim.
I legit don't understand transphobia. Like, you could be using all that energy to do something productive instead but choose to be terrible for no reason.
*edit: removed a redundant word from the end of the last sentence
If u did understand it, or any form of bigotry, you’d be just as empty as them.
I think it’s connected to narcissism and basically living in a reality where only control and power is real, not love, and the whole point of being alive is to try to get the most power by any means possible. It’s a terrible way to live, but it’s not uncommon.
Seriously, why would you be bigoted when you could be literally anything else instead?
That could also be applied to any other bigotry
@@butterflypooo transphobes really say the same shit over and over again and expect experienced people will suddenly agree with you lmao
Depression is a clinical term meaning you experience these symptoms without cause. in trans people without gender affirming care i think the right word for that feeling would be "wholly justifiable misery"
HRT: Like SSRIs but they actually work.
@@tjenadonn6158 Y'know, given that the other 'options' without SSRI's can quite literally just be "commit unalive" and "live in extreme psychological distress, or apathy with no desire or energy to attempt to change things" maybe people shouldn't shit on SSRIs?
It's a medicine that helps your body do what it can't do on its own.
Can it fix everything? No, especially not if the depression is caused by environmental factors.
Is it a magic cure? No, but insulin isn't a magic 'cure' for diabetes, either. It's a treatment.
Do they work for everyone? No, and not everyone will get benefit from the same medicine, and for some people more extreme measures like electric stimulation therapy may be needed.
Are they overprescribed as a first line, and/or without supplementing with therapy to correct the problem? Probably.
But they do, in fact, have their place in medical treatment. What benefit does this growing trend of "Oh, well anti-depressants don't actually work they just artifically make you feel better" even *have?*
Because the only thing that I see it doing is regenerating the same crappy ableist atmosphere toward people with mental health issues taking medicine to treat those issues.
We don't say that basic insulin never works because it doesn't work for everyone. We don't say that chemo doesn't work because some people still die from cancer. We don't say that heart medicine doesn't work because some people still have heart attacks.
But the second a medicine is for a Psychiatric concern and doesn't have a 100% success rate, suddenly it "doesn't work"?
@@tjenadonn6158yeah and they have the added side effect of changing how you look
It’s honestly hard sometimes realizing just how hard it’s gonna be for me to get any transgender healthcare and with me being nearly 18 and fears of discrimination and transphobia rising prices and inflation it’s one of the reasons I want to stay at home with my future partner and just wait until society gets more accepting or at least I can feel mostly safe 70% of the time I enter a public restroom I’m scared of being yelled at or attacked for no other reason than me being trans
Please know that, while there are lots of awful people, they're actually a shrinking minority of people.
@@PlatinumAltaria more delusion - gender critical are the silent majority.
@@transwomenaremale Sure you are, that's why you're panicking and trying to push legislation.
@@PlatinumAltaria straights aren’t the minority
@@science_bearno but transphobes surely are
75 percent of people with tattoos regret getting at least one of them, but you can get a full body tattoo the day you turn 18. Under 3 percent of transgender people regret transitioning yet that takes years.
Straight marriage is encouraged in modern society and yet the divorce rate is around 50%
I’ve yet to see an argument by a transphobe that actually makes sense
If you find one let me know. We're all waiting for one... it's been how many years now?
¯\_(⊙_ʖ⊙)_/¯
they all have the same "arguments"
they just change few words and that's it
Anyone else feel like Jamie should do more of these videos? He's a doctor specialising in trans issues after all. It would be nice to see him speak out more and make an impact
Like make a series of videos with all the research in the description so whenever there's a transphobic person they can be sent here and get educated correctly
Jamie is a doc? Cool?
I thought he was just a nerdy young trans man.🤓
Wait, is Jamie actually a doctor?? Like, a medical doctor? It’s totally possible that I’ve missed that information, since I don’t pay attention to any social media other than RUclips (if you can even call that social media), and I haven’t seen every video anyway.
@@howlinghellgar2214 not medical doctor but Dr as in he has his PhD
Yeah he's not a medical doctor. Look at his videos on his PhD. He's officially Dr Jamie Raines. Did his thesis on trans issues, sexual arousal and sexuality specifically. Talked more about it on a sci guys podcast one time
About the toilet argument.
If perverts would really go as far as pretending to be transwomen because they would be able to, then they would also be able to say "I am a transman" if transpeople weren't able to acces the bathroom that matches their gender identity.
Bathrooms are segregated based on SEX, not gender identity, you clown.
This just in: rapists don't care about breaking the law.
@@tjenadonn6158 neither do murderers so let’s just make murder legal.
@@transwomenaremale We punish people for crimes they've committed, not for crimes a bunch of paranoid bigoted whack-fucks think they'll commit because a one-hit-wonder children's author and serial plagiarist shouted about it on Twitter. Perhaps you've heard of this thing called the presumption of innocence? Does the phrase "innocent until proven guilty" ring a bell? Notice how it isn't "innocent until proven TRANS?"
If you want to protect people from rapists go after rapists, not trans people. The two groups have no more overlap than people who are still fans of Joey "Dumbledore was literally never not shitting on the floor" Rowling and people with good taste.
@@transwomenaremale Okay, let's skip debating whether anyone would go to all the effort of being a trans woman just to rape people in bathrooms. Right now I'm a little more worried about the fact that you seem to be genuinely unaware that it's already illegal to rape people in public bathrooms, no matter what gender you are.
One of my concern when I was trying to get clearance for HRT from the psychiatrist is getting gatekept, if anything, it’s too difficult
1:09 - I remember when I was a young kid in like 2008 and my friend said that her teacher said that "people are just coming out as gay because it's a trend now." These people really have only one argument, huh.
Neurodivergent folks are more likely to be trans than neurotypicals. I believe this is because we (ND folks) tend to view and connect with gender in a different way than neurotypicals. So I posit that transphobia is inherently ableist.
Okay, German nativ here, learned English as a second language... and I'm sitting here now for at least 5min to think about how I can say this, so that my words convey exactly what I want to say ...but I can't... don't know? Translation-block? 😅 Anyway, I'll just try with some easy words:
Every time I watch your videos I go to the comments and I see how much you and your content mean to the people and the community. It is amazing how one person on the internet can make such a difference in the life of a person. You give so much love and understanding, no judgement, people feel safe and just ... just good! Coming here, watching your videos means a lot to some people (me included😉) ! And the advice you give and the soureces you name! Just amazing to see it all! You are doing something great here. Be proud of yourself! We all are 😉 And Shaaba, too! You both give so much love! Incredible! Just incredible!🤗
I totally agree! Also someone from germany here!
As a native English speaker your English is better than that of most transphobes who've been speaking it for their entire lives.
Thank you so much for putting actual citation of your sources, it's always really easy to get back to your videos and use that data instead of having to write my own research paper everytime people insist on spreading fake information around me ♥
Regarding hormone blockers being part of “experimental” health care:
Teens that have cancer often get hormone blockers :)
Cause your body is busy fighting cancer and chemo :)
It’s helpful to stop puberty :)
And guess what, after chemo ends and blockers stop puberty resumes all by itself :)
Do these kids look any different after? No :)
Does puberty resume like normal even going through chemo and all? Yes :)
It's scary that news outlets give a platform to these types of people without even checking if the content is factual.
TBF this was Sky news, never exactly known for being even handed or good on fact checking. They are the Daily Fail of the TV news world.
@@lucyfur I see, I know pretty much nothing about the UK news. I guess anyone can say anything on TV whether or not it's true.
Like the fact social transition doesn’t reduce suicide ?
UCLA williamsinstutute shows if you’re in the closet suicide is 35 percent and if you come out socially it’s 45 percent
To be honest I can say the same thing for this video poster as a women who became something she is biologically not
@@2delicious57you can but you are saying this shit based on your shitty opinions
trans people are saying this based on science
My favourite argument to why there shouldn’t be trans people talking about their experiences on tv is that it would be ‘biased’. I’m still speechless at the lack of self awareness that transphobes have.
Hi lemon, are you still homophobic?
I feel like it says a lot that here in a 3rd world country (South Africa) it's easier to transition than it is in a first world country like the UK. Obviously our public healthcare sector is also heavily underfunded but even the private sector is relatively affordable for starting your transition. I personally didn't have to go through any kind of psychological analysis to prove that I'm trans enough, the doctor just spent time having a discussion with me and I was diagnosed with gender dysphoria. There's obviously a disclaimer that you sign saying that you willing accept the risks of undergoing the process but other than that pretty much anyone can access it if they can afford it, even if you have a mental disability. The mindset behind our trans healthcare is simply; why would people want to transition if they're not trans (the doctors will explain all the risks involved and if you go to the right person they will do their best to find what is best for you) and, regardless of your mental state, you know what your gender is.
THIS! "why would people want to transition if they're not trans" Ok, I think that only people who are in a mental state that actually allows them to make life altering decisions should be allowed to get any kind of surgery that is not an emergency (so if you're on drugs, drunk or something similar, you can't make that decision), but besides that I totally agree.
My country want's to make it easier for people to change their first name and legal gender, so in the future it will be enough to just fill a simple request. Ofc critics said it is too easy and that people will abuse the system, "what if someone isn't really trans?", but the politics just said the same "why would people want to socially and legally transition if they're not trans?". It's not that trans people had more rights than others.
@@naraseth just to clarify no body's out here rocking up to a doctors appointment demanding surgery 🤨. Typically you are encouraged to do fertility Preservation (or at least sign that you recognise the risks and choose not to do Preservation), then you go for a full round of blood tests and start on the absolute minimum amount of hormones, you do blood tests once a month and slowly up the dose till everything stabilises. Before all that you would need to be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, in order to be diagnosed you need to have experienced multiple symptoms for at least 6 months (though this does not mean you have to wait 6 months to get the process started). And all of this is out of pocket, medical aid doesn't really cover any transition related healthcare and their isn't really any government programmes that assist (unless you live in a city that does provide assistance, but there's a crazy long wait list that you may never get onto and that only covers hormones). Pretty much all surgeries are done in the private sector and aren't generally covered by medical aid (bottom surgery for trans women typically costs about 20 000£), and even in the private sector there's a long waitlist for surgery.
The gyst being: as long as you can afford it and you're a consenting adult you can do whatever you want with your body. You don't need to go through a year long psychological analysis to transition and our government recognises that people with mental disabilities are able to know what their gender is. I have autism and probably would have been told that I'm not mentally stable enough to transition in a place like the UK or US but I can confidently say being over a year now on hormones that I have never been more happy and confident in myself than I am now
That just seems so common sense.
Jamie, I start my first year of school where I've almost fully socially transitioned in a few days. It's nervewrecking and I've been dreading trying to make friends with the other guys. But I've realized that even if I do get bullied for being trans (if anyone found out or if I don't pass) I can always come here and watch some of your videos or jam out with my band and write a song. Thank you for always making me feel accepted and comfortable.
Thanks for putting your sources directly in the screen. Always makes me so happy
Protect Trans Kids…from transphobes✊
Protect transphobes ... from media outlets ✊
Just wanted to leave a positive note here -
My sister, who's not anti-LGBT+ just a little narrow-minded due to lack of exposure, recently brought up the topic of trans women in women's toilets and changing rooms. Thanks to the great arguments Jamie provides us with in his videos, I was able to open her eyes a little bit by telling her that trans rights aren't there to take away women's rights, that there actually is no precedent for every transphobe's worst fear of a predator entering a women's bath room with malicious intent by claiming to be a trans woman, that put of all women trans women, in fact, are at the greatest risk to experience discrimination and violence, that there isn't a pandemic of trans-ness but that trans people have always existed throughout the history of humanity - they were just invisible.
It really got her thinking and I'm sure, she's changed her perspective on things.
And it showed me how much it helps to approach uninformed, reluctantly tolerant people with understanding and the will to explain instead of inferring they're dumb and backwards for not knowing better.
I'm so glad there are people like Jamie who are willing to share their struggles with the world so we can learn about where other people are coming from and become more open in the process.
I just wish there was more quality stuff done in languages other than English, which my sister, for example, has no patience to sit through.
Do you know what happened at Wi spa?
@@lnnnnnnl No, but I strongly assume it's a conspiracy theory I have no patience to listen to.
@@SomethingStupide there is no conspiracy when police files five felony charges
@@lnnnnnnl lol, ever heard of the Gestapo?
Or of Michael Brown, George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Trayvon Martin and countless others?
The police does a whole bunch of crap day in, day out. The police is corrupt, brutal, prejudiced and racist. The police is not your friend if you're anything but a straight, white, male. I have first-hand experience with despotic officers (in multiple countries) who abuse their power for the sole purpose of making others miserable.
The police is not our friend and their accusations more often than not mean shit.
@@lnnnnnnl Since almost all rapes are done by cis men, including in bathrooms, maybe we should just ban cis men from all bathrooms? And since most partner murders are done by cis men, why don't we ban cis men from having relationships? Also, I know this is a surprise to many people, but did you know that it's already illegal to rape people in bathrooms, regardless of your gender? Equating gender-nonconformity with pedophilia is much more than wrong, and it's beyond idiotic; it actually gets people killed. Just stop it.
let’s see what’s up with the transphobes now 😭
@Marianne how about 'the DIS-MISS-able'?
I bet my ass that transphobes are still frothing at the mouth, crying and pissing themselves because they're way too scared of actual reality hitting them with a metaphorical yacht
Damn Jamie, I think you read my mind. I got into this horrible “debate” with a couple of transphobes under a comment on one of your videos a couple of days ago. I had to put an end to it because neither of them would take information from any credible sources (which unfortunately I couldn’t cite because RUclips doesn’t like off-website links in comments), and at that point it’s just not a debate anymore. You put some of what that argument entailed into great words here, thank you!
Also, you’re so close to 1 Mil!!! That’s amazing!!
Edit: remember everyone, you don’t have to engage with transphobes. I know it feels like we need to constantly be defending ourselves and our identities, but you don’t. At some point it just becomes bad for your mental health to keep dealing with them, since they’ll say things that range from just terribly misinformed to actively hateful. Especially with the kind of transphobes you’ll find in these comment sections, you likely won’t get through to them anyway since they aren’t here to really learn anything and are just here to cause drama. It’s okay to step away, it’s okay to take a break, and you know what? It’s okay to just ignore them completely. Remember this: your identity is valid, being trans is okay, and anyone who says otherwise can go kick rocks and eat sand.
@Steve Bob I shouldn’t even be entertaining this, but maybe go watch the video you’re commenting under. Jamie explains exactly why this is a moot point.
@Steve Bob not to stereotype but the fact that _Steve bob_ is transphobic is hilarious to me
In debates like that I just APA cite my sources. It’s a good practice and gives all the information necessary to find the source used.
@Steve Bob How is that in any way related to my replies
@Steve Bob nor should you. Did you watch her video reaction to Matt Walsh’s What Is A Woman trailer? It consisted of 80% dumb observations (“durr he has a sandwich board durr”), 10% “trans women ahhhhhhhhhhh women”, and 10% “something something TRANSPHOBIA”. Her “evidence” is based entirely on postmodern pseudoscience, which has managed to strongarm its way into the mainstream courtesy of cancel culture, which has forced scientists worth their salt to self-censor lest they be blacklisted from publication. Also notice how, despite her insistence that “trans women ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh women” not once does she actually define the word, which only proves Matt’s point.
"Jamie should go to the women's bathroom because she's a women!"
If you went into a women's bathroom you would probably be Pepper sprayed.
transphobes are not logical
"Im not against trans people, i just have a problem with gender ideology" sounds a lot like "Im not against individual Jewish people, i just have a problem with international Jewry"
As someone who's Jewish, yeah I can definitely see that similarity. Both transphobes and antisemites go hand in hand while pretending to be more "healthier-than-thou" and most of them don't want to say the quiet parts out loud in fear of being rightfully shit on
she was reaallyyy don't understand what she talking about, like, did she visit the hospital before ???????? I don't live in the UK but I don't know if we have that kind of "wonderful" trans medical in any place on the earth.
Where the hell did she get that idea that the medical forces people to transition when so many hospitals don't even support and prevent actual trans persons to have our medical transition????? Even with all the research and scientific backup facts that we have ??
Please, can you look at the reality before going to the television to tell your fantasies ??
This
This makes me so angry. I am a cis woman and I happily stand beside my trans sisters and brothers.
Just want to point out that I’m trans, and I never went on puberty blockers, but my mom is considering them for my cisgender sister.
While it's frustrating and disheartening to see this happen, it's also nice to see that the biggest arguments against trans rights and allowing LGBTQ+ people to just exist is objectively incorrect or just plain subjective anecdotal evidence. I hope in the future this whole situation will be looked back in the same condemning way as people trying to keep slavery around and keep same sex marriage illegal
It's ironic that SkyNews never heard of the rain metaphor: "If someone says it's raining and another guy says it doesn't, it's mot your job to report both, but to look out of the window and see what the heck is going on"
You can tell these people are knowingly telling lies. What baffles me is why they feel the need to go to such extremes. Are we really that scary?
yes, I am scared at how hot trans people are
This video is full of so much useful information! I knew about puberty blockers but no details of how they are monitored or that hormones aren't available until 16 even with parental consent. This was so helpful! Thank you!!!
And that we have to wait years or even decades to get treatment. I'm still waiting and I'm 25. Thank god I just bought stuff online, the system is terrible.
"were just concerned" is a polite way of saying "we don't like your existence and want less of you, but were too afraid to be upfront with our bigotry"
I hate how genital-altering surgery was done to me as an infant without my consent (circumcision) before my organs were even fully developed. Yet as a consenting adult I have to jump through a million hoops and wait forever just to get srs…
Personally as someone under the umbrella of trans youth (genderfluid.) ive never really looked into surgery/hormones. Knowing that even adults struggle to get it along side trans children is rlly saddening. 😞. Good luck to anyone trying to get it. I hope you can and have a good out come from surgery/hormones. Everyone should have access to be more comfortable with themselves.
Those people are the reason I don’t feel safe as a trans/nonbinary person, especially when I have to decide whether or not to come out to adults (idk why, but it feels way more safer and way more casual to come out to other teens/gen z people). Like this feeling unsafe is so ingrained in my brain, that I couldn’t even come out to a friend of the family, who is gay and very unlikely to be transphobic. But the anxiousness is always there
I know how it feels, bro
I am 19 years old but I still didn't reveal anyone that I'm bigender besides my internet friends
but I just wanna say that you're valid and you will get over it! It's all matter of time
SO CLOSE TO 1 MILLION! 999K IS CRAZY DUDE CONGRATS
When I was real younger (I wasn't trans at this time) I had this slight crush on a girl and I told my homophobic dad, he laughed and said I was too feminine to like girls and 8-year-old me was really sad. He still crushes my spirit by calling me ladylike and shit even now ;-;
You’re still a female
Look: Jamie is your dad now.
You WERE trans at the time, you just didn't *KNOW* you were transgender. Someone who is transgender was always transgender, they just didn't know that they were transgender- or weren't out at the time. Regardless of whether it was because they didn't know what gender they actually were; they didn't realize that they were allowed to be themself; or they were in an environment where they _weren't_ allowed to be themself, including being the gender they actually are.
Using language like, "I wasn't trans at the time," or "they weren't (identifying gender) then" makes transphobic people feel like they are justified in framing being transgender as a cult, fad, or something that people are 'converted into.' It implies that being transgender is an 'acquired' or 'obtained' state of existence, and thus 'unnatural' (never mind that it has some shitty implications about parts and states of life that _can_ be acquired, like being disabled... but these same people often consider anyone who isn't exactly like them to be worse than them, anyway...)
So using phrasing like, "before I knew I was trans," and "before I came out as being a trans man," is better in regards to preventing transphobic people from weaponizing your own words against you (ex. "If you weren't trans, then you should know what _made_ you trans.").
It is also better because it is both objectively more correct _AND_ self-affirming. You were *always* transgender, meaning you were *always* a man or boy(or woman, or enby, depending on individual and their identity obviously), and *always* will be a man. You always have been, are, and will be a man, even if you feel like you don't 'pass' as one now, or feel like there's some other reason you don't feel like you're 'enough' of a man to be one.
You have always been yourself, even before you found the missing piece of who you are.
Language is important, even more so in regards to subjects like this. One of the best things you can do in regards to feeling comfortable as yourself is to use language that affirms your identity and your right to be yourself.
(I am assuming that you are a trans man, but the general idea remains the same.)
The only way to be a man, is the way that *YOU* choose to define what it means to be a man. Masculinity doesn't mean the same thing between different cultures, or between different generations. It doesn't have to mean the same thing even between two different people.
Your sperm donor's- as anyone who does anything other than support, raise, and love their child as long as they aren't hurting others, doesn't qualify as a *real* parent- definition of masculinity is doubtlessly one that is defined by negative traits such as lack of empathy, denial of emotions, and refusal to have affection towards others.
You do not have to define masculinity by the same regressive traits and limitations as he has restricted himself within, in order to be a man.
If you identify as a man?
*You ARE A MAN. That means that anything you do is manly, regardless of the opinion of others.*
I’m 11 and unfortunately where I lived it was illegal to use puberty blockers for gender reasons, although luckily I need blockers for a different reason related to my height so it matched up and I got the blockers!
NICE
You really lucked out
it's always 'parents of trans people' rather than actual trans people like let us speak.
I started socially transitioning at 17, started seeking medical transition as soon as my 18th birthday, and just before my 25th birthday this year, I was FINALLY able to get top surgery. I couldn't even start hormones until 21 because of a combination of factors.
Thanks so much for including representation in all your videos and making sure that the voices of transgender 🏳️⚧️ people are heard! Your are an inspiration for me and many queer teens on this platform. Finding people like you brave enough to share your identities with a wide media audience has helped me come to terms with my own, and for that I am deeply grateful.
I'm not a girl because I like feminine things, I'm a girl because *I'm a fucking girl*, how is this hard to understand?
fr bro
like femboys aren't women just because they like feminine clothes
Thank you so much for this video! I cannot believe how well-timed this is; I'm collecting sources for a research paper I'm writing in hopes of convincing my parents that I am not, in fact, trying to hurt them nor betray the family by transitioning. This is extremely helpful. Cheers
Thank you Jamie for as always providing such informative insight. love the citing of sources on the screen and they way you broke down each point, you do wonderful work, much love 💙💙💙
Imagine if they took all the energy they use on a problem that doesn’t exist and used it to ensure that trans kids can have healthy, safe and comfortable and possibly even happy childhoods like many cis kids get to have. I wish I had that growing up instead of feeling suicidal at the age of 7, but that’s exactly why I care so much about trans kids and their well-being. I didn’t get to be myself until I was 18 despite coming out with all the right words at 13, saying I was a boy when I was 5, clearly expressing bad gender dysphoria from the time I could walk and talk etc. Trans kids deserve to live as good a life as possible, as should any other kid. Kids shouldn’t have to feel suicidal because they can’t be themselves freely, and they shouldn’t have to feel unsafe
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I thought I could handle this today.
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I was only half right.
Thank you for making your videos Jamie, we all know that we need them.
Being Trans is hard 🥲
I hope ur day gets better. Be gentle on yourself and know that you are loved and celebrated. ❤️
I hope your day gets better 🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈
_Stay strong!_ 🏳️⚧️
@@transwomenaremale doing a great job convincing people you care about children, Claire. Your many comments are as impotent as your existence. YOU cry more about it. 😘
i just want to say thank you so much for sharing all these videos!!
Congrats on being so close to 1 million subscribers! I've been here for about a year and you are one of my comfort youtubers! I love how you use your platform to both inform and entertain, and each video genuinely makes me feel good during and after watching! You deserve every good thing heading your way and so much more! Once again, congrats!
healthcare in the uk is such a disgrace rn and people are acting like you can just pop up to the gp and have surgery and hormones done within the week. idk how long the waiting list is, but i have to wait three years before my autism assessment (i will have both started and finished my first degree in that time) and im sure the trans healthcare waiting list isn't that much better.
“The theory of gender identity is very harmful for children”
I think it’s quite the opposite. If I had been educated on gender it would have saved me a LOT of pain. Transphobes don’t even know what their talking about.
Their feelings just don't care about facts, do they
Yes, transphobes really don't care about facts.
@@rhymerlegend2717 How so? Transphobes and homophobes refuse to believe doctors, history, biology and statistics. They don't care about facts. The very existence of people different to them hurts their feelings. Their feelings don't care about facts.
This video is rlly gonna help because my ma has been increasingly supportive of JK Rowlings messages....
I suggested this to someone else but show her this video lol
Dear God. I hope you can stop her from falling into that hole before it happens.
Jammie actually made a very good video about her essay! I suggest you give it a watch if you havent already
@@valenciageode25 i have talked to her about it abit, she isnt full on terf (and probably won't ever be) she is accepting of trans people and has alot of sympathy for trans people and the hardships they go through, but she has said that she thinks womens rights are being rolled back abit with gender neutral terms in maternity wards (eg. using parent instead of mother) but she isnt full on transphobic
@@sarazverinova405 i have watched it and actually its where i got alot of my info from!