Nice quick compare. I really love the little " If being shot at, pick ASH to stand behind ! " at the bottom of the closing screen...lmao. If that .22 Mag round almost made it through that 1 inch Ash, a breast bone, ribs or skull bone has very little chance of stopping it.
Mike, Thanks For Viewing! I appreciate your comment and your sense of humor. That .22 Mag is a nice round, I don't have a .22 Mag rifle, but do need one! Thanks again and take care.
A very rare test. I was looking for something like that for a very long time. Thanks a lot. A massive entrance door made of oak or ash is almost bullet proof - at least for handguns. I shot once a piece of dry oak from a meter distance with a 38 snubnose, the lead bullet didn't even get in.
Vites, Thanks for viewing and commenting. I agree with you, a heavy door of Oak or Ash would likely stop most ordinary handguns. If I get the opportunity, I will check out what your did with the .38. I just recently got my hands on a .38 Spl/.357 mag revolver and would like to try that out for penetration. Thanks again and take care.
Many underestimate the 22L. that caliber used to feed many families back in the day with the old model 67 riffle that fired three different 22 cartridges. great all purpose round when you hit where you aim
Michael. Thanks again. I agree, I would guess that most families living away from the cities had a .22 setting by their back door. I know that we did and usually along with that also a shotgun. Take care.
Amazing how different types of wood can resist penetration much better than others. Pine is probably the softest and easiest to penetrate (not counting balsa wood 😬). Laminated plywood is really tough too.
Genuine. Thanks. Thanks for viewing and for your comments. I agree there are a real variety of woods out there. Most of the wood that I shoot thru is some that I cut myself with the Band Sawmill I had for a number of years. But one of the hardest woods that I have shoot is Ipe that a friend gave me that comes from South America. I did a video on that years ago. Thanks again and take care.
Thank you, sir! You happened to test the four calibers I most wanted to see compared. I read your responses to Husker Bowden and was pleased to see that you responded to his comments with maturity and humility. That’s not always the case on RUclips. I will be subscribing and look forward to watching more of your videos. God bless.
Ethan, thanks for viewing and for your encouraging words. I am old, but still have a lot to learn in the gun world. I appreciate comments that may help me to do a better job with what I post. Thanks again and take care.
John. Thanks For Viewing And Commenting. I have done other testing and the 9mm always seems to do very well. I have a small 9mm that is my daily carry. Thanks again and take care.
Very good video. You prevaled desptie the elements. The .22 mag held its own with the .380, so I willI go in that direction. Many thanks for your effort. Interesting board holder...
Stephen. Thanks Much. I really appreciate your viewing and commenting. I agree, I think the .22 Mag is a lot more of a round than a lot of folks may think it is. One thing I don't have is a .22 Mag rifle (which I need). Thanks for your comment on the board holder, it works fairly well but takes a bit more time getting the samples ready. Thanks again and take care.
M D, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I must say that it is easier for me to respond to comments than the folks with really big channels. Plus I appreciate everyone who takes the time to comment. Thanks again and take care.
billy19461, Thanks You! I agree with what you said about absorbing some of the energy. I have not figured out a good way to deal with that. Sometimes I stack the boards solid against one another, then I can put a long clamp across the top. However I like to shoot with the boards separated, it is easier to tell where the bullets stop. Thanks again and take care.
I notice that, after letting us know that he was using a Heritage Arms Rough Rider to fire the 22LR and 22WMR rounds, he skipped over identifying the guns firing the 380 ACP, and 9MM... they're Hi-Points! LOL. You proved that Rough Rider, Single Action revolvers are more accurate than Hi-Points!
Dalayed, Thanks for viewing and commenting. You are totally correct. The Heritage with a 6.5" barrel is much easier to shoot than either of the Hi-Points. It is sad to say, but it is true. I can give you a good price on a slightly used Hi Point! Thanks again and take care.
Swamp Cat, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. A lot of people don't care for the .22 LR, but I sure would not want to be hit by one. Thanks again and take care.
Captain. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. I agree with you the .22 Mag is a pretty hard hitting round and as you said, should not be under rated. Thanks again and take care.
Joel, Thanks Much! I was told that they rate bullet proof vest by how many Ash board are penetrated? Like a 2A, 3A etc. I don't know that for a fact first hand. Thanks again.
These pistols are used to punch holes in people , any will do the job just fine . The MOST important question is which one is so comfortable you will carry it daily. Mine is a Ruger lcp2 in 380 OR 22lr .
Pacos, Thanks for viewing. I also appreciate your comment. I think you have a good choice for a carry gun. My granddaughter's husband carries a Ruger LCP2 in .380 and he shoots it extremely well for a small gun. I carry a Kimber Micro 9 which also shoots well. I would like to have a LCP2 in .22 LR or .380, either would be fine. I have a small Taurus .380. but don't shoot it well at all. Thanks again and take care.
Kent, Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. The fixture was actually pretty easy to make; a piece of 36" long all thread rod and some wood blocks. The most time consuming part is cutting a notch in each of the test pieces. Thanks again and take care.
Stclairstclair. Thanks. I appreciate your taking a look. For sure that was a windy day and a so so video, one of my early ones. Thanks again and take care.
Shemp, thanks for viewing and for your comment. I fully agree with you. A heavy duty gun that a person can't hit anything with is of very little value. It's like taking a knife to a gun fight. Take care.
If I were ever pinned down and forced to defend myself from a stationary vantage point, I want my Ruger 10/22. I can land 4-5 rounds on a body before they'll hear the crack of the first round. My objective would be to take as many as possible out of the fight, not necessarily kill everyone in sight. If one guy has 3-5 puncture wounds in their vitals, there'll be 1-2 others who will assist their comrade. I'll take precision over power in most any situation.
On a full grown cow's head, between the eyes and a little above I've always had .22 LR and .22 Mag penetrate but 9mm wouldn't. I don't know how that would compare to your experiment. But gave me respect.
Norman, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I was raised on a dairy farm, but never had the opportunity to shoot thru a cow's head. But would have expected the 9 mm to hit harder, your results are very interesting. Thanks again and stay safe.
@@bobcatforever3485 I should have added. I scared myself and shudder to this day. The cow had been treated for everything I could think of. I took it to the vet. He couldn't figure it out. I decided she was suffering and to put the cow down when she came in for a drink. I fired from the other side of the water trough when she put her head down. she was knocked down but got up. Later I noticed the trough was only half full. the bullet had ricocheted back, hit the water and went through the side of the trough and the hole was lined up with where I had been standing. If her head had been at a different angle the hole would have been in me. I just felt so stupid. But really I had expected it to penetrate.
@@normanwells2755 Wow!, you had quite an experience. I glade the trough got the bullet in stead of you. I knew that the cows heads were hard in dealing with them, but did not know they were that hard! My dad back in the late 1950's killed the pigs for butchering with what he called a .22 special. Which had a round larger than a .22 LR but smaller than a .22 Mag. He also shot them in the head just above the eyes and then bled them out. I was in my early teens at that time and that was not one of my favorite things. Take care.
The Skipper, Thanks For Viewing. It's OK now, the leaves are gone. But the wind still messes with the mics on my cheap video cameras! But none the less it's fun shooting wind or not. Thanks again and take care.
Robert. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. What you said is true, what good is a gun that a person can't hit anything with or can't get back on target after the first round. Thanks again and take care.
@@bobcatforever3485 thanks. I am one of the few who chooses to rely on a. 22lr pistol for home defense. Keltec P17 . 17 rounds of a special ammo loaded in multiple magazines when not target practicing with cheap 6 cent ammo. Federal Punch is what I rely on which costs about 19 cents a round. Would love to see more comparisons of .22lr Federal Punch against 22wmr both in 4-5 inch barrels at under 5 yards.
@@robert50173 Robert. Thanks. I would love to do that test of the LR vs the WMR in Federal Punch, but I only have a WMR rifle and no handgun in the magnum round. If I could lay my hands on .22 Mag Punch, I could do the evaluation in rifles. I just checked my ammo and no Punch in .22 Mag on hand. Thanks, and take care.
@@bobcatforever3485 thanks for the help. I believe the large population of baby boomers are looking for "pistols " with power that have little recoil that they can keep on target with older bodies. The 22lr and 22wmr fit that description. I made the same decision myself. A rifle for home defense doesn't seem like as good as a pistol or two in different places and especially for EDC...
Tom G, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I have done several videos comparing .380 and 9 mm, amazing how much harder the 9 mm hits. Thanks again and take care.
If you are going to to do a penetrations test, you should compare apples to apples. The 380 and the 9mm were FMJ but the 22 mag was a hollow point. Do that again with a Fiochi 22 mag FMJ. I did 5 brands of 22 Mag and the Fiochi 22 Mag FMJ out performed all the others that were hollow point and even Hornady V max. It went through 5 layers of 5/8" maple plywood and stuck in the 6th. the hollow points blow up and do damage that way but the FMJ pushes through.
Jim, Thanks for viewing. And I appreciate your comment and agree with you, I for sure used the wrong .22 Mag and I think the .17 HMR was a soft point bullet as well. I did a similar test some mouths later, still not the best but better. If interested: ruclips.net/video/SJyC0MCQSao/видео.html Thanks again and take care.
John, Thanks! I appreciate your viewing and commenting. For sure the wind was terrible. I have fairly low cost cameras and they don't handle the wind well at all. Thanks again and take care.
@@bobcatforever3485 I know many people that don't think a380 is good enough for edc but it is a very effective round as people are not as hard as a board until you get to bone. It may not be as accurate at longer distance with a shirt barrel but up close I wouldn't be afraid to use it for self defense. Thank you again for a job well done!
@@johnernest2779 Thank You. I agree with you, I would not be afraid to carry a .380. I think a .380 could even be a better choice if a person is concerned about the collateral damage. If I had a good carry size .380, I would be happy to carry it. My granddaughter's husband carries a Ruger LPC II, and he shoots it very well. Thanks again.
For some reason you don´t use pine-blades or fir-blades. This ash seems to be a lot harder to penetrate than pine. Once I shot 50 cal. desert eagle slug to pine-blades from distance of 17 feets. This big slug penetrated around 14 inches pine wood before it stopped. So penetration depends. Greetings from Finland. Rudi Rafael
Rudi, thanks for viewing and for your comment. The main reason I have shot mostly thru hard woods is because I have a small sawmill and had been cutting wood from the farm, such as Cherry, Maple, Oak and so on to make small pieces of furniture for family members. I do have several video of shooting thru Pine that I have purchased. Here is one example: ruclips.net/video/mMuYq4iqsg8/видео.html Your Desert Eagle did a fine job with that big bullet! Thanks again, good to hear from you from Finland. Hope all is well there and take care.
Ming On Mongo, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I fully agree, It is not going to be a good day with any of those. If you want to see some interesting video about the seriousness of .22 LR, check out: "TheOldFatDad Goober" He generally does a lot with .22 LR. Thanks again and take care. ruclips.net/video/V3Uzcs96nAg/видео.html
Steve, thanks for viewing and for your comment. For the .22 Mag I shot a 30 Gr V-Max (essentially a hollow point) was bad choice on my part, should have been a 40 Gr FMJ. I just recently redid the evaluation: ruclips.net/video/SJyC0MCQSao/видео.html Thanks again.
Van. Thanks Much. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. We try to put it out there as it happened without picking favorites. Thanks again. Take care.
Thanks! I believe what you are planning will do a good job at stopping a lot of handgun ammo. Good luck. I will look forward to seeing your results. Thanks again and take care
Since the human body is not as tough as ash wood planks i would have to say any of those small calibers would stop someone, since most guns will fire more than one round.
Paul, Thanks for viewing. And I agree with you, I would not want to be hit by any of them. At one time I actually carried a .22LR handgun, partly because I could hit stuff with it. Thanks again Paul, and take care.
Very good comparison, interesting. However, barrel length matters and could have been the same for equal comparison. Your Heritage Arms Rough Rider 6.5 allowed the 22 cartridges to develop higher velocity/energy than the shorter barrel semi autos. Ash might be comparable to bone in hardness. I don't think I would want to use any of these against a bear skull. I wonder if white pine might have been a better standin for soft tissue. Just some thoughts.
Mark. Thanks. I agree that barrel length dose make a pretty big difference. In the case of my Heritage, it is an odd ball and is slower that other shorter barreled guns. That is because of the cylinder/barrel gap on my Heritage is 0.007" and should be about 0.004" so it leaks a lot of energy. If interested video attached: ruclips.net/video/BnGsYPR2O_g/видео.html To save viewing the whole thing go to near the end where there is a chart. And I agree with you, none of these are bear killers. Thanks again and take care.
Roger, Thanks for viewing and making a comment. I have to agree with you Ash is really tough. If interested, I did this a few days ago comparing Body Armor to Ash. Thanks again and take care. ruclips.net/video/FnpwgsLeY-s/видео.html
Niagra898, Thanks Much for viewing. It probably helped that I was shooting from really, really close. Hurricanes tend to come up most of the time when I go shooting! Sometimes I do blame it for my bad shots. Thanks again and take care.
Thank you, I enjoyed your video and will watch more, but I have used ash wood for similar test, I almost did it exactly as you, ammo and all, except i used CCI Maxi mag 40 grain fmj for 22 magnum, it also did one and a half boards, I do believe the hornady V max was made to fragment. which meant you were basically shooting a hollow point , {as in terms of penetration} and we know hollow points against FMJ for penetration anyways is not even close.. again thank you, I liked it, your time and effort and interesting test was a pleasure to watch.............and hopefully you will make us some more
Thanks much for your comments, I still need to have a better understanding of some of the various ammo's, especially the various .17 HMR's. I tend to use the cheaper ammo's, thus may not always use the correct one for a good comparison. Thanks again!
Thanks for viewing and for you comments. You are for sure right about the .22 Mag ammo. Sadly I did the same thing in one of my .17 HMR video where I used a varmint round when I should have used a FMJ. Since then I have picked up both the .17 and .22 Win Mag with a FMJ configuration. Just shot those thru ASH again a couple days ago, new video to follow shortly. Thanks again.
@@stevem7571 Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I expect that I am a little on the cheap side, and tend to by ammo that is on sale if possible. The places I have seen where ammo may make a difference is in trying to shoot tight groups. That's my experience especially with .22's. Thanks again and take care.
Johnny Rebb, Thanks for viewing, and for your comment. Bats and bowling pins, that make sense, I have seen bowling pins shot and not much happens to them. Thanks again and take care.
Curandero. Thanks for viewing and commenting. You Tube would not let me respond to you other comment. I have shot some other material that you might find interesting in the attached video. Thanks again and take care. ruclips.net/video/jG-GdQf7Xcg/видео.html
Screamin Minis MBC. Thanks for viewing and commenting. I agree, I really like my Heritage .22 LR/.22 Mag. It shoots well and straight. Probably since this video I have upgraded from my Hi-Point handguns. I do however really like my Hi-Point 995 9mm carbine. It shot great right out of the box with the sights even being right on. I did pick up an after-market mag which works better than the original. Thanks again and take care. Also, Merry Christmas.
@@bobcatforever3485 My brother had a Hi-Point carbine and he said the same thing. I guess they're better made than the pistols. Have a very merry Christmas.
Very informative, please do an energy delivered on target when the bullet passed through vs staying in the target, the Energy=.5 mass x (velocity) squared doesn't give a true impact upon target when so much of the heavier round passes through. The other thing about the 9mm and above is the danger of the round passing trough your target and any obstructions behind them and causing unintended ummm issues, I thing that's an overlooked aspect of the higher calibers.
I just posted a video of me shooting a 3/4 inch thick board of ash wood and my hollow point .217cal hollow point slugs from my mcx virtus whent 90% through fmj slugs will go all the way through I really am surprised you didn’t get more pen from the .22lr my virtus can pen almost as good as a 22lr
Thilindel, Thanks. I appreciate your viewing. Sad to say, I don't have a .45 or 10 mm, but do now have a .357 mag and a .44 Mag that I can barrow from a close friend. If you have watched a couple of my videos, you can see it is hard to avoid the wind. Thanks again and take care.
G 1951. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. Thank you for the information on the .32 ACP. I have a very old .32 ACP handgun with most everything worn off of it. The only thing you can read on it is that it was made in Spain. I did some checking, and it was supposedly made in Spain for the French around WWII. I have only shot it a couple times, so I thank you for your experience with the pine. Take care.
My memory fails me now but some years back either Winchester or Hornady came out with a .32ACP HP 60 gr. round that was supposed to turn a .32 into a bonafide self defense round. My pine board test told me otherwise.
@@user-rk4zm3nb5f Thanks for that information, I did not know that. I did a video or maybe two where I have shot a .32 ACP into some wood (or other material), but it would have been a 73 Gr FMJ as that is the only ammo, I have in .32 ACP. Thanks again.
I have seen folks killed with .22 .22 mag, .380 and nine millimeter. The folks killed with .22 lr or mag were shot until the firearm was empty when it was a hand gun. I did have a guy shot three times in the head with .22 long rifle and killed with a rifle at almost contact range. Two were skip rounds and one was an actual penetration. Same with a .380. The firearms were emptied every time. 9 mm three round kills are not uncommon if they are larger firearms. But if they are little hide out guns folks empty them at close range. Now .38 .357 and .44 special short barrel belly revolvers? It is rare they get emptied in close quarters. I don’t know why. Maybe it is the noise, recoil and the instant effect the rounds had on the target. Or maybe it is the folks carrying the little guns understand the trade off and are geared up for it. Or maybe it is revolver fire control. Either way it is just information.
Ferdonandebull, Thanks for viewing. Also thanks for all the information in your comment. It is good to know what is effective and what is not so effective. Thanks again and take care.
Bill. Thanks for viewing and commenting. This ash had been in storage for a couple years, I expect the moisture content was around 5-6% which I think is fairly normal unless having just come out of a kiln. I am not an expert, but my experience is that a fresh cut tree is somewhere around 25-30% moisture. Thanks again and take care.
R Bell. Thanks. Isn't that the truth. This is by far my most viewed video, and I have absolutely no idea why. But anyhow, thanks for clicking on it. Take care and have a great evening.
Nice Test in this wood But too bad the Bad Guy's Body is Not Made of Wood! I would pick a 22 Magnum with a Fragmented Bullet, which I do use in my EDC Gun! No more 9mm or .380 for My Guns! Thanks for the Video!
Steve. Thanks for taking a look and commenting. I don't have much experience with .22 Mags in a handgun just my Heritage but a bit hard to conceal! lol Would you choose something like a Federal Punch or that Winchester Silvertip? I currently carry a small 9mm, but I think I would be fine with a .22 Mag. Thanks again and take care.
David, Thanks for viewing. I have gotten that same comment several times. It only blows like that when I'm out shooting, other than that it is a light breeze. Thanks again and take care.
Chris, First Thanks For Viewing. And commenting. I just looked up some chronograph data I have and : The Heritage = 871 fps (100); Mossberg 715T rifle = 1182 fps (135); Escort rifle (bolt action and a bit longer barrel) = 1249 fps (143). This was with CCI Mini Mags. The rifle rounds should hit a bit harder for sure. Thanks again and stay safe. PS: This video has both handgun and rifle shooting .22 LR and some other guns also: ruclips.net/video/jG-GdQf7Xcg/видео.html
@Bruce Holcomb Again I agree with you. A while back I did come chronograph testing on some CCI Mini Mag ammo: Heritage revolver 6" = 871 fps, same ammo thru my Escort bolt action rifle (a little longer than a Ruger 10/22) = 1249 fps. Based on some other data, I think the Heritage runs about 50 fps slower than a normal simi-auto .22 LR. Thanks again and stay safe.
Steven, Thanks for viewing for your comment. You Tube would not let me open and respond to your first comment. They may have an issue with Ash lumber, possibly a bad tree experience. Take care.
Louis, thanks for viewing and commenting. I see great minds think alike! Not the most expensive guns, but they still shoot. Thanks again and take care.
David, thanks for viewing and commenting. Hi Points, pretty cheap guns, but the ones I have seem to run well. Also the Heritage is really fun to shoot and it hits what you point it at. Thanks again, and take care.
I use the Winchester mini mag jacketed hollow point in the Heritage six shooter. Wonder if the hollow point would make it through and leave a bigger exit hole. Also looked like you were using a Hi Point 380. I wonder if the Hi Point semis are as bad as lots say. I know they are heavy, blow back design. I own the Hi Point 995TS 9mm carbine and it is a great rifle, has never had a problem and seems to be getting great reviews. Problem with the pistols tho is that the prices for a Ruger and a Taurus are so close I never took a chance. Have a Ruger 380 and the Taurus 709 Slim for carries.
Thanks for viewing and for your comment. Both the .380 and 9 mm were Hi Points. They have run well for me. Only issue I have had was with the mag holding the bullets to flat and the slide would not pick up (especially the first round). I bent the ears of the mag open just a bit and fixed that problem. I bought my HP's on sale for $129 and $139 several years back when they were like $100 cheaper than most other guns. I also have a 709 and a HP 995 (fun to shoot) in several of my videos. Here is some info on FMJ vs Hollow Points: ruclips.net/video/C_z9fitgUCU/видео.html Thanks again.
Steve, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I whole heartedly agree with you. I carry a 9mm, but still would not want to be looking down the barrel of a .380. Thanks again and take care.
James, Thanks For Viewing. I agree with you, I also have the HP 995 carbine (which is just plain fun to shoot and has run well for me). Any issue I have had with the HP's was caused by the Mags. A pair of pliers and it's all fixed. Thanks again and take care.
Jeffrey. Thanks for viewing and commenting. I agree, that would have been good and even a .357 Mag. But back then I didn't have a gun that would shoot those. I do now and I think I may still have some rough sawn ash. I'm a bit older now so not sure I would have the ability or desire to do that again. I can shoot the guns, but not sure I would want to prepare the wood. I be turning 80 in October, I'm more or less on break these days! Only doing minor shooting. Thanks so much again and take care.
Joseph, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. It seems the wind knows when I'm going shooting and it comes along. In reality, I was pretty close to the target. Thanks again and take care.
Looks like a good and fair test between the 4. Nicely done. 👍
Ratty. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. Thanks again and take care.
Nice quick compare. I really love the little " If being shot at, pick ASH to stand behind ! " at the bottom of the closing screen...lmao. If that .22 Mag round almost made it through that 1 inch Ash, a breast bone, ribs or skull bone has very little chance of stopping it.
Mike, Thanks For Viewing! I appreciate your comment and your sense of humor. That .22 Mag is a nice round, I don't have a .22 Mag rifle, but do need one! Thanks again and take care.
A very rare test. I was looking for something like that for a very long time. Thanks a lot.
A massive entrance door made of oak or ash is almost bullet proof - at least for handguns. I shot once a piece of dry oak from a meter distance with a 38 snubnose, the lead bullet didn't even get in.
Vites, Thanks for viewing and commenting. I agree with you, a heavy door of Oak or Ash would likely stop most ordinary handguns. If I get the opportunity, I will check out what your did with the .38. I just recently got my hands on a .38 Spl/.357 mag revolver and would like to try that out for penetration. Thanks again and take care.
Many underestimate the 22L. that caliber used to feed many families back in the day with the old model 67 riffle that fired three different 22 cartridges. great all purpose round when you hit where you aim
Michael. Thanks again. I agree, I would guess that most families living away from the cities had a .22 setting by their back door. I know that we did and usually along with that also a shotgun. Take care.
Amazing how different types of wood can resist penetration much better than others. Pine is probably the softest and easiest to penetrate (not counting balsa wood 😬). Laminated plywood is really tough too.
Genuine. Thanks. Thanks for viewing and for your comments. I agree there are a real variety of woods out there. Most of the wood that I shoot thru is some that I cut myself with the Band Sawmill I had for a number of years. But one of the hardest woods that I have shoot is Ipe that a friend gave me that comes from South America. I did a video on that years ago. Thanks again and take care.
GT. Thanks, and I agree. Take care.
Thank you, sir! You happened to test the four calibers I most wanted to see compared. I read your responses to Husker Bowden and was pleased to see that you responded to his comments with maturity and humility. That’s not always the case on RUclips. I will be subscribing and look forward to watching more of your videos. God bless.
Ethan, thanks for viewing and for your encouraging words. I am old, but still have a lot to learn in the gun world. I appreciate comments that may help me to do a better job with what I post. Thanks again and take care.
I'm a little disappointed he used a 30 gram 22wmr, but it was still an interesting comparison
Good testing on a bad day and I am glad that the 9 mm
(which I am using too) penetrated pretty well!
John. Thanks For Viewing And Commenting. I have done other testing and the 9mm always seems to do very well. I have a small 9mm that is my daily carry. Thanks again and take care.
Love it; a no nonsense test!! Thanks!
Jim, Thanks! I appreciate your viewing and commenting. It is always fun shooting. Thanks again and take care.
Very good video. You prevaled desptie the elements. The .22 mag held its own with the .380, so I willI go in that direction. Many thanks for your effort. Interesting board holder...
Stephen. Thanks Much. I really appreciate your viewing and commenting. I agree, I think the .22 Mag is a lot more of a round than a lot of folks may think it is. One thing I don't have is a .22 Mag rifle (which I need). Thanks for your comment on the board holder, it works fairly well but takes a bit more time getting the samples ready. Thanks again and take care.
I just want to say, Bobcat Forever is very dedicated to his comment section! Wow! Thanks for the video.
M D, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I must say that it is easier for me to respond to comments than the folks with really big channels. Plus I appreciate everyone who takes the time to comment. Thanks again and take care.
Nice.
I thought the .22mag would've penetrated and passed through at least one board.
Thanks for the video.
Tyrone. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. I agree with you I expected more than that. Thanks again and take care.
Loved the video and your setup for the boards. They may give and absorb some of the energy but still really interesting!
billy19461, Thanks You! I agree with what you said about absorbing some of the energy. I have not figured out a good way to deal with that. Sometimes I stack the boards solid against one another, then I can put a long clamp across the top. However I like to shoot with the boards separated, it is easier to tell where the bullets stop. Thanks again and take care.
I notice that, after letting us know that he was using a Heritage Arms Rough Rider to fire the 22LR and 22WMR rounds, he skipped over identifying the guns firing the 380 ACP, and 9MM... they're Hi-Points! LOL. You proved that Rough Rider, Single Action revolvers are more accurate than Hi-Points!
Dalayed, Thanks for viewing and commenting. You are totally correct. The Heritage with a 6.5" barrel is much easier to shoot than either of the Hi-Points. It is sad to say, but it is true. I can give you a good price on a slightly used Hi Point! Thanks again and take care.
Thank you for doing this.
Pirate. Thank You. I appreciate you taking time to view this. Take care.
That was a very good comparison. Thanks for taking the time to put that together
Pete. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. I am happy that the video was of interest to you. Thanks again and take care.
I looked at the reaction of the boards as being shot and the 22 long seemed to give the board the greatest reaction.
Swamp Cat, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. A lot of people don't care for the .22 LR, but I sure would not want to be hit by one. Thanks again and take care.
Thanks for taking the time to make an informative vid confirming my wife’s choice of a Sig 380. Ash doesn’t stand a chance.
Al, thanks for viewing and for your comment. Take care.
@Charles McFadden Thanks for you comment. I think my one son-in-law a P-238 that he carries and is also impressed with it. Thanks and take care.
Watch my vídeo on 22 vs 380 penetración on mezquite wood wich is one of the strongest Woods on earth make sure to subscibe
Ash is a robot. A GD robot.
Absolutely informative. Thank you!
LSB12A, Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. Take care.
Well done sir. A honest ,well done video.
AND it shows that the .22 mag is NOT to be under rated.
Captain. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. I agree with you the .22 Mag is a pretty hard hitting round and as you said, should not be under rated. Thanks again and take care.
The .380 is a good weapon for me.
Bill, Thanks for viewing. Also thanks for your comment. I don't have the best .380 for carrying but if I did, I would be happy to carry it. Take care.
Ash is a pretty dense hardwood. Thanks for the video. Keep safe.
Joel, Thanks Much! I was told that they rate bullet proof vest by how many Ash board are penetrated? Like a 2A, 3A etc. I don't know that for a fact first hand. Thanks again.
Little windy there. good video...thanks
Michael. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing. It seems to be windy every time I go shooting. Thanks again and take care.
These pistols are used to punch holes in people , any will do the job just fine . The MOST important question is which one is so comfortable you will carry it daily. Mine is a Ruger lcp2 in 380 OR 22lr .
Pacos, Thanks for viewing. I also appreciate your comment. I think you have a good choice for a carry gun. My granddaughter's husband carries a Ruger LCP2 in .380 and he shoots it extremely well for a small gun. I carry a Kimber Micro 9 which also shoots well. I would like to have a LCP2 in .22 LR or .380, either would be fine. I have a small Taurus .380. but don't shoot it well at all. Thanks again and take care.
That is a nice test fixture you made.
Kent, Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. The fixture was actually pretty easy to make; a piece of 36" long all thread rod and some wood blocks. The most time consuming part is cutting a notch in each of the test pieces. Thanks again and take care.
That’s a nice test fixture that you made! It would be great to test a .22 WRM with a 40 grain FMJ projectile.
Kent, thanks for viewing and commenting. Will check into the 40 Gr FMJ. Thanks again.
Man, that is some ferocious wind.
Tom. Thanks for viewing. Yeah, that crazy wind just follows me around whenever I go shooting. Thanks again and take care.
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
Steve thank you, appreciate your viewing and for your kind comment. Take care.
Ash is pretty hard stuff. That’s what they make baseball bats with. H&B Louisville Slugger. 380 did pretty good. Close range weapon.☠️
Brad, Thanks For Viewing. And thanks for the information you shared in your comment. I agree, Ash is hard. Thanks again and take care.
The wind actually make it look like a beautiful blustery day.
Stclairstclair. Thanks. I appreciate your taking a look. For sure that was a windy day and a so so video, one of my early ones. Thanks again and take care.
Thank you comparing the rounds penetration and sharing SIR 👍
Jesus. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. Shooting is always fun. Thanks again and take care.
A 22 lr dead center is far more useful than a 500 nitro miss. There's a message here.
Shemp, thanks for viewing and for your comment. I fully agree with you. A heavy duty gun that a person can't hit anything with is of very little value. It's like taking a knife to a gun fight. Take care.
If I were ever pinned down and forced to defend myself from a stationary vantage point, I want my Ruger 10/22.
I can land 4-5 rounds on a body before they'll hear the crack of the first round.
My objective would be to take as many as possible out of the fight, not necessarily kill everyone in sight. If one guy has 3-5 puncture wounds in their vitals, there'll be 1-2 others who will assist their comrade.
I'll take precision over power in most any situation.
I agree with you!
People who say the.22 isn't powerful enough are basically saying that they are a lousy shot. Accuracy matters 👊🏻
@@BVBLT that's gospel, right there.
You can line up Life Savers on a fence rail, 100 yds out, and call out the color. I won't miss with my .22lr
LOved this video, Ash is some tough wood!
Ge0arc244. Thanks. I appreciate you taking a look and commenting. I agree ash is pretty tough stuff. Thanks again and take care.
Well done, thank you, sir.
On a full grown cow's head, between the eyes and a little above I've always had .22 LR and .22 Mag penetrate but 9mm wouldn't. I don't know how that would compare to your experiment. But gave me respect.
Norman, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I was raised on a dairy farm, but never had the opportunity to shoot thru a cow's head. But would have expected the 9 mm to hit harder, your results are very interesting. Thanks again and stay safe.
@@bobcatforever3485 I should have added. I scared myself and shudder to this day. The cow had been treated for everything I could think of. I took it to the vet. He couldn't figure it out. I decided she was suffering and to put the cow down when she came in for a drink. I fired from the other side of the water trough when she put her head down. she was knocked down but got up. Later I noticed the trough was only half full. the bullet had ricocheted back, hit the water and went through the side of the trough and the hole was lined up with where I had been standing. If her head had been at a different angle the hole would have been in me. I just felt so stupid. But really I had expected it to penetrate.
@@normanwells2755 Wow!, you had quite an experience. I glade the trough got the bullet in stead of you. I knew that the cows heads were hard in dealing with them, but did not know they were that hard! My dad back in the late 1950's killed the pigs for butchering with what he called a .22 special. Which had a round larger than a .22 LR but smaller than a .22 Mag. He also shot them in the head just above the eyes and then bled them out. I was in my early teens at that time and that was not one of my favorite things. Take care.
@@bobcatforever3485 Thanks. You too..
Damn those trees made a lot of racket
The Skipper, Thanks For Viewing. It's OK now, the leaves are gone. But the wind still messes with the mics on my cheap video cameras! But none the less it's fun shooting wind or not. Thanks again and take care.
This is a shining review of ash lumber.
Robert, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I agree with you, Ash is some tough lumber! Thanks again and take care.
Dude picked the windiest day in Chicago to film!!! 😂
Mike, Thanks for Viewing. There was just a slight breeze that day and camera did a really good job of picking up the sound. lol Take care.
Great test. A side point worth noting is the fact that the higher caliber is more difficult to get an accurate shot.
Robert. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. What you said is true, what good is a gun that a person can't hit anything with or can't get back on target after the first round. Thanks again and take care.
@@bobcatforever3485 thanks. I am one of the few who chooses to rely on a. 22lr pistol for home defense. Keltec P17 . 17 rounds of a special ammo loaded in multiple magazines when not target practicing with cheap 6 cent ammo. Federal Punch is what I rely on which costs about 19 cents a round. Would love to see more comparisons of .22lr Federal Punch against 22wmr both in 4-5 inch barrels at under 5 yards.
@@robert50173 Robert. Thanks. I would love to do that test of the LR vs the WMR in Federal Punch, but I only have a WMR rifle and no handgun in the magnum round. If I could lay my hands on .22 Mag Punch, I could do the evaluation in rifles. I just checked my ammo and no Punch in .22 Mag on hand. Thanks, and take care.
@@bobcatforever3485 thanks for the help. I believe the large population of baby boomers are looking for "pistols " with power that have little recoil that they can keep on target with older bodies. The 22lr and 22wmr fit that description. I made the same decision myself. A rifle for home defense doesn't seem like as good as a pistol or two in different places and especially for EDC...
@@robert50173 I agree, rifles would be hard to handle as a home defense item. Handguns loaded and ready to go sounds the best. Thanks again.
Very useful video, many thanks!
Graeme, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I appreciate the kind words. Take care.
The shooting demonstration is OK but I really like the sound of the strong wind
Paul, thanks for viewing and for your comment. My shooting is so so, but I do a good wind (sad to say!). Thanks again and stay safe.
@@bobcatforever3485 lol!! if only my fiance was so happy about my wind!
@@MD-qk6si Sad to say, but some wind is more acceptable than others! Take care.
Thanks much...Just what I was looking for.
Timothy, Thank you for viewing. Also I appreciate your comment. Take care.
👍Great video sir , congratulation for your time and effort.
Raptor, Thanks! I appreciate your viewing and commenting. Thanks again and take care.
Thanks.
Proves that the 1902 9mm has some good punch. It's what I Cary.
Tom G, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I have done several videos comparing .380 and 9 mm, amazing how much harder the 9 mm hits. Thanks again and take care.
If you are going to to do a penetrations test, you should compare apples to apples. The 380 and the 9mm were FMJ but the 22 mag was a hollow point. Do that again with a Fiochi 22 mag FMJ. I did 5 brands of 22 Mag and the Fiochi 22 Mag FMJ out performed all the others that were hollow point and even Hornady V max. It went through 5 layers of 5/8" maple plywood and stuck in the 6th. the hollow points blow up and do damage that way but the FMJ pushes through.
Jim, Thanks for viewing. And I appreciate your comment and agree with you, I for sure used the wrong .22 Mag and I think the .17 HMR was a soft point bullet as well. I did a similar test some mouths later, still not the best but better. If interested: ruclips.net/video/SJyC0MCQSao/видео.html Thanks again and take care.
@@bobcatforever3485 Thanks, I'll check it out!!!!!!!!..Cheers, Jim
@@jimjakosh2506 Thanks!
Nice comparisons. Looks like tornado weather with all the wind lol!
John, Thanks! I appreciate your viewing and commenting. For sure the wind was terrible. I have fairly low cost cameras and they don't handle the wind well at all. Thanks again and take care.
@@bobcatforever3485 I know many people that don't think a380 is good enough for edc but it is a very effective round as people are not as hard as a board until you get to bone. It may not be as accurate at longer distance with a shirt barrel but up close I wouldn't be afraid to use it for self defense. Thank you again for a job well done!
@@johnernest2779 Thank You. I agree with you, I would not be afraid to carry a .380. I think a .380 could even be a better choice if a person is concerned about the collateral damage. If I had a good carry size .380, I would be happy to carry it. My granddaughter's husband carries a Ruger LPC II, and he shoots it very well. Thanks again.
@@bobcatforever3485 😂 so true!
Awsome review
Guy. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. Take care.
For some reason you don´t use pine-blades or fir-blades. This ash seems to be a lot harder to penetrate than pine. Once I shot 50 cal. desert eagle slug to pine-blades from distance of 17 feets. This big slug penetrated around 14 inches pine wood before it stopped. So penetration depends. Greetings from Finland. Rudi Rafael
Rudi, thanks for viewing and for your comment. The main reason I have shot mostly thru hard woods is because I have a small sawmill and had been cutting wood from the farm, such as Cherry, Maple, Oak and so on to make small pieces of furniture for family members. I do have several video of shooting thru Pine that I have purchased. Here is one example: ruclips.net/video/mMuYq4iqsg8/видео.html Your Desert Eagle did a fine job with that big bullet! Thanks again, good to hear from you from Finland. Hope all is well there and take care.
Getting shot with *_any_* caliber is gonna ruin your day.
Ming On Mongo, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I fully agree, It is not going to be a good day with any of those. If you want to see some interesting video about the seriousness of .22 LR, check out: "TheOldFatDad Goober" He generally does a lot with .22 LR. Thanks again and take care. ruclips.net/video/V3Uzcs96nAg/видео.html
That was good. Simple. I’m surprised by the .22 mag. I thought it would do more damage. Thanks.
Steve, thanks for viewing and for your comment. For the .22 Mag I shot a 30 Gr V-Max (essentially a hollow point) was bad choice on my part, should have been a 40 Gr FMJ. I just recently redid the evaluation: ruclips.net/video/SJyC0MCQSao/видео.html Thanks again.
I agree, could have used a 40 or 50 grain in the mag, but good test still 👍
It would if he used a proper rifle..
Good video, very informative. Thanks.
Winton, Thanks for viewing and for your comment! Take care.
great job, just thr facts without blowviating on the facts and self promotion
Van. Thanks Much. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. We try to put it out there as it happened without picking favorites. Thanks again. Take care.
Good job, sir
Thanks!
Paulo. Thank You. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. Take care.
hi again, I really enjoyed your video, hope more to come
Thanks. Take care.
I'm going to buy some ash planks, 550 cord, and carabiners. Then I'll make a small caliber armoured vest.
Thanks! I believe what you are planning will do a good job at stopping a lot of handgun ammo. Good luck. I will look forward to seeing your results. Thanks again and take care
Since we never heard back from Darren I don’t think his vest worked out for the best.
@@mik3ymomo 😂
@@mik3ymomo damn rip darren. I tried warning him that his phone book and boards wouldn’t hold up against a 62 grain green tip 5.56 😓😂😂
Haha your awesome, keep doing what you're doing!
Jude, Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. Take care.
Since the human body is not as tough as ash wood planks i would have to say any of those small calibers would stop someone, since most guns will fire more than one round.
Paul, Thanks for viewing. And I agree with you, I would not want to be hit by any of them. At one time I actually carried a .22LR handgun, partly because I could hit stuff with it. Thanks again Paul, and take care.
For comparison of the rounds this was informative.
Very good comparison, interesting. However, barrel length matters and could have been the same for equal comparison. Your Heritage Arms Rough Rider 6.5 allowed the 22 cartridges to develop higher velocity/energy than the shorter barrel semi autos. Ash might be comparable to bone in hardness. I don't think I would want to use any of these against a bear skull. I wonder if white pine might have been a better standin for soft tissue. Just some thoughts.
Mark. Thanks. I agree that barrel length dose make a pretty big difference. In the case of my Heritage, it is an odd ball and is slower that other shorter barreled guns. That is because of the cylinder/barrel gap on my Heritage is 0.007" and should be about 0.004" so it leaks a lot of energy. If interested video attached: ruclips.net/video/BnGsYPR2O_g/видео.html
To save viewing the whole thing go to near the end where there is a chart. And I agree with you, none of these are bear killers. Thanks again and take care.
Fun vid Bob
Thank You. I appreciate that. Take care.
dang that wood is bullet proof i had no idea
Roger, Thanks for viewing and making a comment. I have to agree with you Ash is really tough. If interested, I did this a few days ago comparing Body Armor to Ash. Thanks again and take care. ruclips.net/video/FnpwgsLeY-s/видео.html
I’m surprised you could hit anything with that Hurricane going on there-thanks for the video.
Niagra898, Thanks Much for viewing. It probably helped that I was shooting from really, really close. Hurricanes tend to come up most of the time when I go shooting! Sometimes I do blame it for my bad shots. Thanks again and take care.
Thank you for posting sir. I subbed.
TMTC. Thanks. I appreciate you taking a look and subbing. Take care.
@@bobcatforever3485 I really liked your no nonsense test. It is what i like to watch and your video answered what i was looking for. GOD BLESS !!!
@@thatsmytwocents4372 Thanks Much. And I agree, we are truly blessed!
Great channel
cmvb69. Thanks for viewing and commenting. We are small, but we still have a lot of fun. Thanks again and take care.
cmvb69. Thanks for viewing and commenting. We are small, but we still have a lot of fun. Thanks again and take care.
Great video Thankyou
Foster's... Thank You. I appreciate you taking time to view. Take care.
Thank you, I enjoyed your video and will watch more, but I have used ash wood for similar test, I almost did it exactly as you, ammo and all, except i used CCI Maxi mag 40 grain fmj for 22 magnum, it also did one and a half boards, I do believe the hornady V max was made to fragment. which meant you were basically shooting a hollow point , {as in terms of penetration} and we know hollow points against FMJ for penetration anyways is not even close.. again thank you, I liked it, your time and effort and interesting test was a pleasure to watch.............and hopefully you will make us some more
Thanks much for your comments, I still need to have a better understanding of some of the various ammo's, especially the various .17 HMR's.
I tend to use the cheaper ammo's, thus may not always use the correct one for a good comparison. Thanks again!
Thanks!
Thanks for viewing and for you comments. You are for sure right about the .22 Mag ammo. Sadly I did the same thing in one of my .17 HMR video where I used a varmint round when I should have used a FMJ. Since then I have picked up both the .17 and .22 Win Mag with a FMJ configuration. Just shot those thru ASH again a couple days ago, new video to follow shortly. Thanks again.
@@bobcatforever3485 using cheaper ammo for test is the right way to go since most people have a tendency to use cheaper ammo
@@stevem7571 Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I expect that I am a little on the cheap side, and tend to by ammo that is on sale if possible. The places I have seen where ammo may make a difference is in trying to shoot tight groups. That's my experience especially with .22's. Thanks again and take care.
Ash, baseball bats and bowling pins.
Johnny Rebb, Thanks for viewing, and for your comment. Bats and bowling pins, that make sense, I have seen bowling pins shot and not much happens to them. Thanks again and take care.
Might be more interesting with thinner boards, other materials or ballistics gel w/ clothing
Curandero. Thanks for viewing and commenting. You Tube would not let me respond to you other comment. I have shot some other material that you might find interesting in the attached video. Thanks again and take care. ruclips.net/video/jG-GdQf7Xcg/видео.html
I love my 4.75 inch Rough Rider in 22lr and 22 mag. Great little piece for the price. Not so keen on the HI-point though. But good video.
Screamin Minis MBC. Thanks for viewing and commenting. I agree, I really like my Heritage .22 LR/.22 Mag. It shoots well and straight. Probably since this video I have upgraded from my Hi-Point handguns. I do however really like my Hi-Point 995 9mm carbine. It shot great right out of the box with the sights even being right on. I did pick up an after-market mag which works better than the original. Thanks again and take care. Also, Merry Christmas.
@@bobcatforever3485 My brother had a Hi-Point carbine and he said the same thing. I guess they're better made than the pistols. Have a very merry Christmas.
@@shootinnscootin5545 Thanks! And good to hear that your brother liked his 995. Take care.
Thank you, enjoyed this easy and to the point, ..nicely done sir!
Very informative, please do an energy delivered on target when the bullet passed through vs staying in the target, the Energy=.5 mass x (velocity) squared doesn't give a true impact upon target when so much of the heavier round passes through. The other thing about the 9mm and above is the danger of the round passing trough your target and any obstructions behind them and causing unintended ummm issues, I thing that's an overlooked aspect of the higher calibers.
Proving fairly well that you just can`t kill it if you shoot it in the ash
David, Thanks. That is pretty much true. Take care.
I just posted a video of me shooting a 3/4 inch thick board of ash wood and my hollow point .217cal hollow point slugs from my mcx virtus whent 90% through fmj slugs will go all the way through I really am surprised you didn’t get more pen from the .22lr my virtus can pen almost as good as a 22lr
ETD4265. Thanks for your comments on the .217 cal. I will try to check out your video. Thanks again. Take care.
Would like to see with .45, 10mm, .357, and everything else :P And I'd love to live in that area as windy as it is!
Thilindel, Thanks. I appreciate your viewing. Sad to say, I don't have a .45 or 10 mm, but do now have a .357 mag and a .44 Mag that I can barrow from a close friend. If you have watched a couple of my videos, you can see it is hard to avoid the wind. Thanks again and take care.
Can't do another test, the whole test set up blew into the next county after the camera was turned off.
@@eriklundquist1657 Thanks, sad to say but may have hit the nail on the head. Thanks again and take care.
I once tested a .32 ACP out of my colt 1903 on pine boards. The FMJ went through one board. The hollow point stuck half way through the board.
G 1951. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. Thank you for the information on the .32 ACP. I have a very old .32 ACP handgun with most everything worn off of it. The only thing you can read on it is that it was made in Spain. I did some checking, and it was supposedly made in Spain for the French around WWII. I have only shot it a couple times, so I thank you for your experience with the pine. Take care.
My memory fails me now but some years back either Winchester or Hornady came out with a .32ACP HP 60 gr. round that was supposed to turn a .32 into a bonafide self defense round. My pine board test told me otherwise.
@@user-rk4zm3nb5f Thanks for that information, I did not know that. I did a video or maybe two where I have shot a .32 ACP into some wood (or other material), but it would have been a 73 Gr FMJ as that is the only ammo, I have in .32 ACP. Thanks again.
That seemed pretty solid. The pistols going threw perhaps two. Seems more realistic based on the hand guns power.
Kertis, Thanks for viewing. Also, I appreciate you taking time to comment. Thanks again and take care.
You might be interested in this also. Thanks.
ruclips.net/video/FnpwgsLeY-s/видео.html
Proof positive ash is hard wood
Rich, Thanks! Isn't that the truth! Take care.
I HAD a model 29 with 240 grain semi was cutters loaded with 13 grain unique way through 7 2x4s
Robert, Thanks For Viewing And For Your Comment. That is interesting and a lot of 2X4's.Thanks again and take care.
I have seen folks killed with .22 .22 mag, .380 and nine millimeter.
The folks killed with .22 lr or mag were shot until the firearm was empty when it was a hand gun. I did have a guy shot three times in the head with .22 long rifle and killed with a rifle at almost contact range.
Two were skip rounds and one was an actual penetration.
Same with a .380. The firearms were emptied every time.
9 mm three round kills are not uncommon if they are larger firearms. But if they are little hide out guns folks empty them at close range.
Now .38 .357 and .44 special short barrel belly revolvers?
It is rare they get emptied in close quarters.
I don’t know why. Maybe it is the noise, recoil and the instant effect the rounds had on the target.
Or maybe it is the folks carrying the little guns understand the trade off and are geared up for it.
Or maybe it is revolver fire control.
Either way it is just information.
Ferdonandebull, Thanks for viewing. Also thanks for all the information in your comment. It is good to know what is effective and what is not so effective. Thanks again and take care.
Thanks for the info
Augur. Thank You. I appreciate your viewing. Take care.
White or green ash. There is a big difference. And wet(green) lumber.
Bill. Thanks for viewing and commenting. This ash had been in storage for a couple years, I expect the moisture content was around 5-6% which I think is fairly normal unless having just come out of a kiln. I am not an expert, but my experience is that a fresh cut tree is somewhere around 25-30% moisture. Thanks again and take care.
380 is my chosen carry round because it won’t kill people standing behind the criminal
Bud. Thanks for viewing. I agree, the .380 will do the job well for sure and be less likely to over penetrate. Thanks again and take care.
Bud, I appreciate your thinking. [Over]penetration was a factor in my selection of 380 for carry. Bobcatforever, thanks for putting this together.
Out in the cornfields where the woods got heavy
R Bell. Thanks. Isn't that the truth. This is by far my most viewed video, and I have absolutely no idea why. But anyhow, thanks for clicking on it. Take care and have a great evening.
Great job. ✋🇺🇾
Carlos. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing. Take care.
Nice Test in this wood But too bad the Bad Guy's Body is Not Made of Wood! I would pick a 22 Magnum with a Fragmented Bullet, which I do use in my EDC Gun! No more 9mm or .380 for My Guns! Thanks for the Video!
Steve. Thanks for taking a look and commenting.
I don't have much experience with .22 Mags in a handgun just my Heritage but a bit hard to conceal! lol Would you choose something like a Federal Punch or that Winchester Silvertip? I currently carry a small 9mm, but I think I would be fine with a .22 Mag. Thanks again and take care.
Must be a freaking hurricane out there! 😳
David, Thanks for viewing. I have gotten that same comment several times. It only blows like that when I'm out shooting, other than that it is a light breeze. Thanks again and take care.
I’d be interested to see how those rim fires would change if shot out of a rifle...✌️
Chris, First Thanks For Viewing. And commenting. I just looked up some chronograph data I have and : The Heritage = 871 fps (100);
Mossberg 715T rifle = 1182 fps (135); Escort rifle (bolt action and a bit longer barrel) = 1249 fps (143). This was with CCI Mini Mags. The rifle rounds should hit a bit harder for sure. Thanks again and stay safe. PS: This video has both handgun and rifle shooting .22 LR and some other guns also: ruclips.net/video/jG-GdQf7Xcg/видео.html
Thanks for the reply! ✌️
@Bruce Holcomb Again I agree with you. A while back I did come chronograph testing on some CCI Mini Mag ammo: Heritage revolver 6" = 871 fps, same ammo thru my Escort bolt action rifle (a little longer than a Ruger 10/22) = 1249 fps. Based on some other data, I think the Heritage runs about 50 fps slower than a normal simi-auto .22 LR. Thanks again and stay safe.
40 yrs ago shot a CCI stinger 22LR and a 380 into phone books at 15 feet. Penetrated equally but the 22 became a flying pancake.
Hy, thanks for viewing and also for your interesting comment. Take care.
U has proved that 22 and mag is far more accurate than 9mm
Thanks for viewing and for your comment.
My mama caught me shooting into ash wood with a .22 last week and she said "look at that little ash hole..."
Steven, Thanks for viewing for your comment. You Tube would not let me open and respond to your first comment. They may have an issue with Ash lumber, possibly a bad tree experience. Take care.
@@bobcatforever3485 THank you for the Test shots,....Very well done SIR
Did you think to ash her permission?
great vid love the choice of guns i have the same
Louis, thanks for viewing and commenting. I see great minds think alike! Not the most expensive guns, but they still shoot. Thanks again and take care.
Looks like some reliable pistols: Heritage and Hi Points. Thanks.
David, thanks for viewing and commenting. Hi Points, pretty cheap guns, but the ones I have seem to run well. Also the Heritage is really fun to shoot and it hits what you point it at. Thanks again, and take care.
Good testing 👍
Zoran, Thank You. I appreciate your viewing and commenting. Take care.
I use the Winchester mini mag jacketed hollow point in the Heritage six shooter. Wonder if the hollow point would make it through and leave a bigger exit hole. Also looked like you were using a Hi Point 380. I wonder if the Hi Point semis are as bad as lots say. I know they are heavy, blow back design. I own the Hi Point 995TS 9mm carbine and it is a great rifle, has never had a problem and seems to be getting great reviews. Problem with the pistols tho is that the prices for a Ruger and a Taurus are so close I never took a chance. Have a Ruger 380 and the Taurus 709 Slim for carries.
Thanks for viewing and for your comment. Both the .380 and 9 mm were Hi Points. They have run well for me. Only issue I have had was with the mag holding the bullets to flat and the slide would not pick up (especially the first round). I bent the ears of the mag open just a bit and fixed that problem. I bought my HP's on sale for $129 and $139 several years back when they were like $100 cheaper than most other guns. I also have a 709 and a HP 995 (fun to shoot) in several of my videos. Here is some info on FMJ vs Hollow Points: ruclips.net/video/C_z9fitgUCU/видео.html Thanks again.
Glad I picked a 9mm over a .380. Still, I wouldn't want to be on the business end of a .380 either.
Steve, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I whole heartedly agree with you. I carry a 9mm, but still would not want to be looking down the barrel of a .380. Thanks again and take care.
とても現実的なテスト方法ですね。参考になります。ありがとうございます。
Thanks. I appreciate your viewing. Take care.
Good video
Aman. Thanks. I appreciate your viewing. Take care.
Very helpful. Thanks
Char Lie, Thanks! I appreciate your viewing. Take care.
Thanks for the video....
Doodles Pachesco, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. Take care.
Hi Point's are adequate!
James, Thanks For Viewing. I agree with you, I also have the HP 995 carbine (which is just plain fun to shoot and has run well for me). Any issue I have had with the HP's was caused by the Mags. A pair of pliers and it's all fixed. Thanks again and take care.
wish you had added 38 special to the list.
Jeffrey. Thanks for viewing and commenting. I agree, that would have been good and even a .357 Mag. But back then I didn't have a gun that would shoot those. I do now and I think I may still have some rough sawn ash. I'm a bit older now so not sure I would have the ability or desire to do that again. I can shoot the guns, but not sure I would want to prepare the wood. I be turning 80 in October, I'm more or less on break these days! Only doing minor shooting. Thanks so much again and take care.
I can’t believe these bullets are going straight in that horrible storm
Joseph, Thanks for viewing and for your comment. It seems the wind knows when I'm going shooting and it comes along. In reality, I was pretty close to the target. Thanks again and take care.