I eventually realized that Agatha Christie was using the Poirot books to explore every possible variation on who the murderer was with the final Poirot book (Curtain) literally being the ultimate expression of this.
Absolutely agree about A Discovery of witches (the whole Trilogy). The series meanders way less than the books and it tones down Matthew's attitude quite a bit. Book Matthew was jail material. 👿
So, a couple of examples: Solaris. Stanislav Lem's book is a masterpiece, yet the adaptation by Tarkovsky improves on it in many ways. The Thin Red Line. Terrence Malick's adaptation gives it entirely new dimensions. The Trial. Kafka's version is indeed great, but Orson Welles elevated every aspect of it just about except for the ending, which was ruined due to interference from his financiers.
Most of your examples were books you didn't like lol . Are there books you actually really enjoyed and still thought the adaption was better? Were those books all in your first video?
Warm Bodies was a much better movie than a book imo. The protagonist is more charming (which is kind of sad since hes a zombie), the its more playful/funny, and they are more subtle with some of their themes in the movie whereas they feel more hamfisted in the book.
I feel the same way about The Goldfinch. When our main character goes to “the other place” it takes up so out of the story it’s like you are reading a completely different book. Unnecessary 😑
I like Outlander the show and thought about reading the books. Thanks for saving me! A couple I think the movie/show are better: Ready Player One, directed by Steven Spielberg, fixed some things like the romance. And the Shadow and Bone show, it combines storylines from 2 book series and does a lot to improve the first series (mostly around the romance again) and the second series, Six of Crows, I did really like the books and thought the casting and everything having to do with their parts of the show were elevated as well
For a book that's better than the movie, the signature example for me is A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith. The film is quite good in the tradition of It's A Wonderful Life. The book, however, I would argue is the true "Great American Novel." It has the highest density of creative, insightful and memorable passages per page of any book that I'm aware of. Francie Nolan is perhaps the most well realized character in all of fiction. The novel immerses you so thoroughly into that time and place of Francie's life, you feel like you experienced it first hand. Like, I have memories of growing up in early 1900s Brooklyn from reading ATGIB that are as vivid as those of my real childhood. Despite exploring poverty, it is an immensely rich work of art.
Oh yes david suchet is amazing as hercule Poirot i didn't like Kenneth version i also liked albert finch version in murder on the oriental Express My favorite movie adaptation are Dolores Claiborne kathy bates was amazing book is by Stephen king and the movie giant starring james dean based on a book by edna ferber
Have to go out but will definitely watch this later,, haven't seen any movies,better than the equivalent books I've read, so these will probably be a case of not reading any of the books of these ! Though not a movie, I will say I definitely recommend reading the 3 Body Problem trilogy rather than the Netflix series. I know it has decent reviews but it's totally dumbed down and wokefied! Just read the books !😊
I love the Finch version of Orient Express. I rather like the Kenneth version, and due to various circumstances, have yet to watch the Suchet version. Though I agree Suchet is by far the best. Just like the Jeremy Brett Sherlock Holmes...which I adore. ❤❤❤🤩
I picked up Murder on the Orient Express a couple years ago because I’d never read any Agatha Christie, and that needed to be rectified. I devoured it, totally get why she’s the best selling novelist of all time. I haven’t seen the movie.
I absolutely enjoyed a discovery of witches tv series i read the first three books might check out the other books this fall I love Outlander tv series the books series the early books are the best
I read Agatha Christie for the first time this year, and I almost threw the book in the trash. I couldn't freaking believe what a hack job this book was. I was ANGRY.
@@LienesLibrary No, it wasn't, but it was one that people have hailed as pure genius. I thought it was one of the dumbest things I've read outside of a writing group.
I enjoyed the book as well and I need to read the sequels, but it heavily implies (although tbf never actually states) that the baddies are the International Jewish Bankers anti-semitic trope. You can easily ignore that aspect though, who the baddies are and their deep motivations isn't really important to the plot and then it is a very enjoyable adventure story, but like a lot of enjoyable "classic" books it is very much "of its time and place" (in this case the British Empire 1916). And it is way less racist than H.P. Lovecraft so there is that.
@@LienesLibrary I would recommend it to anyone really. I was 13 when I read it...36 now. Oh boy, time is yummy 😋 New subscriber. I hope it goes without saying, I like the content. TLDR Yeah! 👍
@@neuro.weaver What? The book is mediocre pulp. The film gets rid of all the junk and elevates what does work. Even Puzo thought the film was far superior.
After seeing the first video and this one, and being highly disturbed by your selection, (Dune, seriously?! Lord of the Rings, seriously?! Princess Bride, seriously?!) I'm now wondering if the order in which you've watched the movie FIRST, could be the issue. I've read the books for all three long before the movies, and I love the books more. 🤔🧐 Could it be that simple? I fell in love with the books way before the movie. Now please do a video on loving the movie, despite having read AND LOVED the book FIRST. 😮😛
@@LienesLibrary I...I might have to agree with you, after seeing Dune Messiah. The first two movies explores a significant part of the philosophy in Dune, that of having a messiah inflicted on the Fremen. Now, if Dune Messiah explores the implications of prescience, and how it limits humanity, thus forcing Paul to prepare the way for his children to impose the Golden Path on mankind, then I will (reluctantly) have to agree the movies are better. That's the pivotal core of the first three books which (to my mind) are basically one book. I'm prejudiced because I read Dune way, way back in high school, and loved it immensely. ❤️
Kenneth Branagh had the inklings of a good Poirot, but the scripts, the supporting cast and the editing are atrocious. They come off as attempting camp versions of the material in the same vein as the Robert Downey jr version of Holmes.
The reason I much prefer the film The Shining to the novel is that in the novel, Jack is a loving father who tries to kill his wife and son because the hotel ghost possesses him or something like that. In the film, Jack's reason for trying to kill his wife and kid comes from within, a resentment a lot of fathers probably have in a patriarchal capitalistic society. He wanted to be a writer, but his girlfriend got pregnant, and he did the right thing and married, took regular jobs, and provided. The hotel ghost only multiplies or magnifies the resentment already present in him, as they did with other fathers who had stayed in the hotel before him. Of course, there are the same feelings within wives and mothers, towards their sons and husbands. I think Jack is the male version of Elisabet in Persona by Ingmar Bergman, a woman who has a son that she resents for staggering her career as an actress. She tried to abort but failed, and now she is a mother and a wife who wishes she wasn't, her son's love for her bothers her, and the guilt makes her feel like a bad person, but she can help what she feels. People don't like to think about, how many fathers and mothers feel resentment towards their children and spouse, especially in the past when these movies take place, when people married in their early twenties or younger, doesn't mean they don't love them, but the resentment is there, they were once young and had plans and ambitions, and left it all behind to be parents and partners, they did what society expected of them. They're the ones that stayed, where many abandoned their kids and left, to live their lives only for themselves.
In the book, the reason why the Hotel is able to take over Jack is because of his inner issues with anger and alcoholism. Jack's love for his family is what helped him overcome his demons, and save his wife and son in the end. It's King writing about his own alcoholism
@@DanLyndonNot really. In the film he comes across as a lunatic from the very beginning, he's simply deranged. From his first appearance. To me its just Kubrick and Nicholson completely failing the character
@@MrBoJangles Yes, I also read it was about alcoholism, and it makes sense, I know there's a '90s miniseries adaptation that's fateful to the books, but I never watched it. Clearly, Kubrick didn't care to adapt that story and just went in a different direction.
John Buchan also thought that Hitchcock's film version of The 39 Steps was better than his book, so I guess I can't hold that against you.
I eventually realized that Agatha Christie was using the Poirot books to explore every possible variation on who the murderer was with the final Poirot book (Curtain) literally being the ultimate expression of this.
oh I'd never heard that before, I'll have to think about that next time I'm read and/or watching the Suchet ones
Absolutely agree about A Discovery of witches (the whole Trilogy). The series meanders way less than the books and it tones down Matthew's attitude quite a bit. Book Matthew was jail material. 👿
So, a couple of examples:
Solaris. Stanislav Lem's book is a masterpiece, yet the adaptation by Tarkovsky improves on it in many ways.
The Thin Red Line. Terrence Malick's adaptation gives it entirely new dimensions.
The Trial. Kafka's version is indeed great, but Orson Welles elevated every aspect of it just about except for the ending, which was ruined due to interference from his financiers.
Most of your examples were books you didn't like lol . Are there books you actually really enjoyed and still thought the adaption was better? Were those books all in your first video?
LOTR
many were
I love James Purefoy too! I'm always eager to see him in anything.
He's from Taunton in Somerset, right next to me!
Lady Liene with her Spicy Takes 🌶
I can't argue with any of these. So I won't! 🙌
One I can't decide between the book or the movies is Nightmare Alley.
Warm Bodies was a much better movie than a book imo. The protagonist is more charming (which is kind of sad since hes a zombie), the its more playful/funny, and they are more subtle with some of their themes in the movie whereas they feel more hamfisted in the book.
haven't seen or read it, but I do like Nicholas Hoult who I believe is in the film?
I feel the same way about The Goldfinch. When our main character goes to “the other place” it takes up so out of the story it’s like you are reading a completely different book. Unnecessary 😑
I like Outlander the show and thought about reading the books. Thanks for saving me! A couple I think the movie/show are better: Ready Player One, directed by Steven Spielberg, fixed some things like the romance. And the Shadow and Bone show, it combines storylines from 2 book series and does a lot to improve the first series (mostly around the romance again) and the second series, Six of Crows, I did really like the books and thought the casting and everything having to do with their parts of the show were elevated as well
For a book that's better than the movie, the signature example for me is A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith. The film is quite good in the tradition of It's A Wonderful Life. The book, however, I would argue is the true "Great American Novel." It has the highest density of creative, insightful and memorable passages per page of any book that I'm aware of. Francie Nolan is perhaps the most well realized character in all of fiction. The novel immerses you so thoroughly into that time and place of Francie's life, you feel like you experienced it first hand. Like, I have memories of growing up in early 1900s Brooklyn from reading ATGIB that are as vivid as those of my real childhood. Despite exploring poverty, it is an immensely rich work of art.
10 Charing Cross Road. The movie was way better. DNF the book.🙄
@@User_Un_Friendly I'm talking about books better than the movie.
Lockwood and Co is a tv show that is a hard one to say if the show or the book was better. You should check out the show!
I've heard good things!
I can't recommend it enough!!!
Can’t wait for those RINGS of POWER videos :)
Oh yes david suchet is amazing as hercule Poirot i didn't like Kenneth version i also liked albert finch version in murder on the oriental Express
My favorite movie adaptation are Dolores Claiborne kathy bates was amazing book is by Stephen king and the movie giant starring james dean based on a book by edna ferber
Have to go out but will definitely watch this later,, haven't seen any movies,better than the equivalent books I've read, so these will probably be a case of not reading any of the books of these ! Though not a movie, I will say I definitely recommend reading the 3 Body Problem trilogy rather than the Netflix series. I know it has decent reviews but it's totally dumbed down and wokefied! Just read the books !😊
I love the Finch version of Orient Express. I rather like the Kenneth version, and due to various circumstances, have yet to watch the Suchet version. Though I agree Suchet is by far the best. Just like the Jeremy Brett Sherlock Holmes...which I adore. ❤❤❤🤩
I read Dolores a couple months ago and really enjoyed it, might have to check out the film
@@LienesLibrary oh please do I'm telling you the movie is brilliant it's so underrated not many people talk about
"The Name of the Rose" Movie was better than the Book even as the Book is great. But the Movie simply is perfect.
I picked up Murder on the Orient Express a couple years ago because I’d never read any Agatha Christie, and that needed to be rectified. I devoured it, totally get why she’s the best selling novelist of all time. I haven’t seen the movie.
glad you enjoyed!
Always fun to find a new Liene's video I haven't watched yet
Like finding a 100 bucks in the street
I absolutely enjoyed a discovery of witches tv series i read the first three books might check out the other books this fall
I love Outlander tv series the books series the early books are the best
I read Agatha Christie for the first time this year, and I almost threw the book in the trash. I couldn't freaking believe what a hack job this book was. I was ANGRY.
lol well, they can't all be bangers, I highly recommend And Then There Were None (unless that's the one that enraged you haha)
@@LienesLibrary No, it wasn't, but it was one that people have hailed as pure genius. I thought it was one of the dumbest things I've read outside of a writing group.
How is The 39 steps offensive? IMO it is much better than any of its adaptations to film.
I enjoyed the book as well and I need to read the sequels, but it heavily implies (although tbf never actually states) that the baddies are the International Jewish Bankers anti-semitic trope. You can easily ignore that aspect though, who the baddies are and their deep motivations isn't really important to the plot and then it is a very enjoyable adventure story, but like a lot of enjoyable "classic" books it is very much "of its time and place" (in this case the British Empire 1916). And it is way less racist than H.P. Lovecraft so there is that.
One of my special close to me books is Alex Garland's 'The Beach'. The movie, not terrible but nothing like the book. Sorry, I flipped the topic. 😊
I haven't read or seen it but I've heard intriguing things
@@LienesLibrary I would recommend it to anyone really. I was 13 when I read it...36 now. Oh boy, time is yummy 😋 New subscriber. I hope it goes without saying, I like the content. TLDR Yeah! 👍
The Godfather and No Country for Old Men are two other movies that I would say are better than the books they are based on.
Not to Godfather. Clearly NOT the Godfather. The book is amazing!
@@neuro.weaver What? The book is mediocre pulp. The film gets rid of all the junk and elevates what does work. Even Puzo thought the film was far superior.
@@DanLyndon 👍Yes. 👍
Do you think you would have felt different about these stories if they didn't adapt them into films?
After seeing the first video and this one, and being highly disturbed by your selection, (Dune, seriously?! Lord of the Rings, seriously?! Princess Bride, seriously?!) I'm now wondering if the order in which you've watched the movie FIRST, could be the issue. I've read the books for all three long before the movies, and I love the books more. 🤔🧐
Could it be that simple? I fell in love with the books way before the movie. Now please do a video on loving the movie, despite having read AND LOVED the book FIRST. 😮😛
I read Dune long before ever seeing any adaptation, same with Count of Monte Cristo, and I did/do love Monte Cristo
@@LienesLibrary I...I might have to agree with you, after seeing Dune Messiah. The first two movies explores a significant part of the philosophy in Dune, that of having a messiah inflicted on the Fremen. Now, if Dune Messiah explores the implications of prescience, and how it limits humanity, thus forcing Paul to prepare the way for his children to impose the Golden Path on mankind, then I will (reluctantly) have to agree the movies are better. That's the pivotal core of the first three books which (to my mind) are basically one book.
I'm prejudiced because I read Dune way, way back in high school, and loved it immensely. ❤️
Kenneth Branagh had the inklings of a good Poirot, but the scripts, the supporting cast and the editing are atrocious. They come off as attempting camp versions of the material in the same vein as the Robert Downey jr version of Holmes.
at least RDJ is entertaining as Holmes and the movies are a campy good time, Branagh as Poirot is just cringey and painful
@@LienesLibraryagreed, he just had inklings of a good Poirot.
Ay , where's JAWS ?
haven't seen or read it
The Natural...Redford's movie was magical. The book? uuuh...yikes!
Completely agree!👍
Forrest Gump. The book blows.
The film is also awful so I'm not sure it matters.
The reason I much prefer the film The Shining to the novel is that in the novel, Jack is a loving father who tries to kill his wife and son because the hotel ghost possesses him or something like that.
In the film, Jack's reason for trying to kill his wife and kid comes from within, a resentment a lot of fathers probably have in a patriarchal capitalistic society. He wanted to be a writer, but his girlfriend got pregnant, and he did the right thing and married, took regular jobs, and provided. The hotel ghost only multiplies or magnifies the resentment already present in him, as they did with other fathers who had stayed in the hotel before him.
Of course, there are the same feelings within wives and mothers, towards their sons and husbands.
I think Jack is the male version of Elisabet in Persona by Ingmar Bergman, a woman who has a son that she resents for staggering her career as an actress. She tried to abort but failed, and now she is a mother and a wife who wishes she wasn't, her son's love for her bothers her, and the guilt makes her feel like a bad person, but she can help what she feels.
People don't like to think about, how many fathers and mothers feel resentment towards their children and spouse, especially in the past when these movies take place, when people married in their early twenties or younger, doesn't mean they don't love them, but the resentment is there, they were once young and had plans and ambitions, and left it all behind to be parents and partners, they did what society expected of them. They're the ones that stayed, where many abandoned their kids and left, to live their lives only for themselves.
In the book, the reason why the Hotel is able to take over Jack is because of his inner issues with anger and alcoholism. Jack's love for his family is what helped him overcome his demons, and save his wife and son in the end. It's King writing about his own alcoholism
@@MrBoJangles You realize you've just explained why the book is so hackneyed in contrast to the film?
@@DanLyndonYeah, well, that's just like, your opinion, man.
@@DanLyndonNot really. In the film he comes across as a lunatic from the very beginning, he's simply deranged. From his first appearance. To me its just Kubrick and Nicholson completely failing the character
@@MrBoJangles Yes, I also read it was about alcoholism, and it makes sense, I know there's a '90s miniseries adaptation that's fateful to the books, but I never watched it. Clearly, Kubrick didn't care to adapt that story and just went in a different direction.