I think It’s worth pointing out that deadlock has a lot of money and studio power behind it while predecessor does not. the studio making predecessor was literally created by old fans of paragon.
Pred has multi millions in backing also ar end of the day gamers don't care how or who made the game if the game doesn't get adequate support the players want
Let's not say Predecessor is an utter underdog here: It is a _Complete_ game unlike Deadlock, with an existing fanbase, Full customisation and monetisation already in place. Gameplay-wise I think there's a pretty clear distinction between the two -- most players are going to strongly prefer one, not vacillate between them.
I've never played a MOBA before because I wasn't a fan of the camera angle / visuals, but Predecessor visually is more satisfying. I started playing Pred to learn how to play MOBA's to prepare for Deadlock, but even after getting invited to play I haven't even tried Deadlock yet because I've been so addicted to Predecessor. Really would love to see more of Pred on your channel.
Totally agree I’d love to see fruit play more but if the desire isn’t there for him I wouldn’t be upset. Deadlock and Pred play very differently, Pred is more of a traditional moba while deadlock is more hero based shooter with Moba aspects. Everyone has a preference between those two, for me personally I love Pred the timing of 1.0 isn’t great with the deadlock release and Smite 2 going into 24/7 alpha. I am concerned for the games future but time will tell
Please more Predecessor Mr Fruit! I know Deadlock is the new hotness and i do thoroughly enjoy watching the content on it, but i love predecessor and still think its a fun game.
Definitely will be here for the long haul the ceo said they are primarily focused on the longevity of the game and for it to still here in many years to come
Paragon was one of those hidden gems that after it was shutdown no other game could really recreate that feeling, Deadlock has been doing an incredible job and the game isn’t even out yet and while ima continue playing it, watching predecessor gameplay I do really love the character designs WAY more then deadlocks and while it might be an art style thing characters like narbash, revenant, severog ect are just so cool and no one really captures that feel in deadlock
Predecessor is a GREAT game I have never been in love with MOBAs but this game has turned that around I have played over 150 hours and it keeps me engaged and the gameplay feels so smooth for the most part it needs more players so thanks for the game play!!
I've been a big fan of predecessor for a while now and it's awesome to see it get noticed by a big youtuber. I'd love to see you play more, especially since you didn't get the role you wanted
this game is honestly really solid. i have ~600 hours in it, and its much more attune to a real moba compared to deadlock. if youre on the fence its free to play, so try it out!!!
@@maxiejohnson8356 definitely. i tried deadlock out, and while it doesnt quite scratch the same itch that predecessor does for me, it is still enjoyable, and ive been loving fruit’s videos on it.
@@mechanicalsilence1 i actually think predecessor does this pretty well. theres no sky box or wall barrier so lots of characters (dekker, kallari, aurora, rampage, feng mao, etc) can jump over any wall they see to set up for cool ganks and outplays. plus with the blast flowers allowing ability usage during the boop, you can do some pretty rad stuff while mid-air.
Honestly I've been having a blast on predecessor and our community is smaller right now but very into it and growing slowly. With consoles around 20k daily It's made by a smaller studio who can't really do much marketing as they go so stuff like this is 🔥🔥🔥 to see man. You played my main too!! GG
Happy to see you check this out again, if you enjoy it I'd love seeing you and Blue hop in to Predecessor. Been playing predecessor since its early beta and its a helluva good time.
Predecessor really does look well built and fun. I hope it finds its fanbase and maintains a solid playerbase because it's cool and the devs have done an amazing job. But MAN, they got shafted again. First Fortnite, now Deadlock. This game just can't catch a break.
It nice to see more people cover and play predecesor. The game it rought around the edges, but it is definitely fun to play. I hope you continue covering it. You just earned another subscriber
Been Loving Predecessor! Couldn't really get into deadlock tbh. Would love to see more videos of Predecessor! there's a patch coming out October 1st with a new original hero would love to see you play it!
Paragon was a part of my childhood. Then Fortnight became a thing and shot the servers down. I want Predecessor to succeed, but I really enjoy Deadlock since most of my friends play Deadlock and it manages to scratch that itch perfectly. I will stick to Deadlock since I also really like the movement there and will have Predecessor there when I want something a little different. I hope you will make some Predecessor videos but I probably would enjoy the Deadlock videos more.
Predecessor is bringing out new hero's that will be expanding more on the movement in the game over the next few releases, the next original being released October 1st :)
Honestly, the death of Battleborn is probably the most devastated I’ve been in gaming. I’m not someone who has a pc, so no deadlock. I want predecessor to succeed but I bounced off it. RIP Battleborn
I enjoyed so many characters in Battleborn. It's such a shame they never made a ranked mode. If they did, I wouldn't be surprised if the game was still around today.
i will say with my friends we have been playing predecessor in the beta for a while and even with deadlock being out we still find ourselves coming backa nd playing pred for hours! i really hope you will continue to learn the game and i know playing multiple mobas is very time consuming but i'd love to see you more on this game!
YO, this is not what I was expecting! I'm oddly nostalgic for those Paragon vids (ironically Deadlock started scratching that itch again, haha), but this is awesome to see. I hadn't heard a thing about it until now though, likely overshadowed by Deadlock's success AND Concord's failure. Is Blue playing/Will he be?
One thing I hope Predecessor adds, coming from Deadlock, is the 'browse build' feature. where people can find builds others made with a click of a button and well...make it on the game.
Paragon was my all time favorite game. I'm glad the OGs took the assets and made something amazing with it . We will continue to support Pred because they gave us back something that was taken from us after fortnite became Epics cash cow
Here's the thing about Deadlock: Deadlock is what it looks like when a massive studio says "What if we put moba elements in a hero shooter?". Paragon answered the question of "What if we made a 3d moba?" They are very different games and I feel Deadlock appeals to more people as it is more similar to Overwatch than Smite while Predecessor is the other way around. I prefer Predecessor as I have missed Paragon since the servers when down and I never much cared for hero shooters in comparison. If you prefer Overwatch to Smite, then Deadlock is for you.
I agree. I cannot click with Deadlock. The map is messy and while the characters are interesting their abilities are secondary to pew pew. Predecessor on the other hand is all about abilities and having a diversity of range/melee heroes. It's about lane management and objectives. Deadlock has that a little bit but at the end of the day it's just a team based shooter.
I just tried it today for a couple of games! I haven't really played a moba before so I like how this game splits the lanes into the different classes and generally tells you what to do. Also its on console so thats a plus
The best way to learn a moba is find one or two champs you like and play one role. You can learn the game itself much easier if you aren't also playing a new character every other game.
@@SmickyD That’s a good idea. So far I’ve adopted the opposite philosophy. I’ve played maybe 20 matches and try to pick something new (lane or character) each time. Honestly the hardest thing for me right now is the item system. Trying to read a paragraph of different color text and not be idle in spawn stresses me out.
The real reason games blow up is based on content creation from streamers. If big streamers would have tried pred out and hyped it up (lying or not), then put out gameplay every once in a while. That would increase the numbers more than anything. With that being said thanks for covering the game fruit
Been a pred player since the stress test beta (before early access). I've loved it for quite a while until recently. The entire time I was waiting for a ramp up in content production but it's actually slowed down. I pretty much no longer play the game especially with Deadlock in the picture. Deadlock, in my opinion is much closer to what Predecessor should have been. It's like they actually listened to the community feedback and used it. The community has complained about a small cramped map with terrible jungle minions, very little mechanics, not much skill expression, no verticality (even though it looks like there is), and slow content patches. Not all of this was apparent to me until Deadlock came out, and I would also say that Valve is also just very fast. Predecessor is stuck in the past and has been trying to revive Paragon when it's should've created a new and excited/challenging game. The game is extremely stale right now and I see no hope for the game unless they can fundamentally make the game more exciting. Right now it's one of the easiest mobas on the market right now. Edit: I do think this game is thriving on the console market right now. Not many games like this, other than Smite, for console players; so I'm sure they're eating it up right now.
There's actually loads of console players playing predecessor about 80% of the player base is on console prior to 1.0 where they had over 2mill players playing
You got me into Paragon initially when i found your video at random and It/predecessor have been my favorite games of all time since. Regardless of what happens thanks for bringing me here Man
really hope predecessor gets the attention and growth it deserves, I've enjoyed it a lot the past few months and its been much easier to learn than deadlock for me
Predecessor is fun and I loved paragon as well. I think compared to Deadlock it feels a bit outdated but if the devs keep working on this title a few more years it could become something special.
Its so interesting to watch a clearly skilled player play this game. I have loved this since it was Paragon and am so happy to be able to play it again. The graphics and gameplay are so fun...to any new players...yes it is a lot to learn and get used to but can be so addicting, and when you find others to play with it makes the game that much more enjoyable. Love seeing Pred continue to grow and get noticed :)
It sucks that Deadlock and Predecessor have to be competing because I honestly really like watching Predecessor so much more than Deadlock and hopefully people give it a chance!
Its because that predecessor is using decade old fomula, completely unoriginal with added third person perspective, whild deadlock have lots of innovations,the fast transit line, forward shop, skill customisation and enhancement instead of purely rely on equipment for power raise, and generally faster pace that doesnt let people steamroll too much with minor early game advantage
I would love to see more Pred content! It's my first moba and I fell in love instantly. It has the same toxicity problems as every other moba but the gamefeel is just phenomenal
Vid recommended because of watching pred content. After playing both I think I prefer Predecessor. The game feels polished and looks amazing. The only worry is taking care of toxicity with leavings or int’ers and lack of marketing to bring in new players. Balance is pretty good and so the devs are pretty transparent. Really hope to see you play some more. I’ll be back.
I’m an OG Paragon player, so seeing you try this for the first time was refreshing. I would actually enjoy seeing you play this more. It's one of my favorite games... Though admittedly I haven't tried Deadlock
Paragon was the first MOBA I ever played because I'm a console scrub. When Epic shut it down to divert resources to their (at the time) new baby Fortnite, I was crushed. Some of my highest and most frustrating moments in my life as a gamer came from Paragon. It's death to me was very much how you feel about Battleborn (which I also loved). Playing Predecessor isn't 100% the same and I get they made some mechanical changes to make it more in line with other MOBAs but it's damn close. I'm so glad they ported it to console too. I don't have a ton of time on it but man it feels good to gave my baby back.
I started playing this game cause of fruit and man it feels nice to see him comeback to it and playing Zaurus too super cool character,deadkock is the it game right now so it’s understandable that it has more of the spotlight but would love to see a vid now and again of pred or even league
Please make more Pred videos. I loved Paragon and I love Predecessor and it for sure needs a bigger name to get a bit more of a foothold, it’s so much fun when the game is going right we gotta see you carry
I found this channel in the first place due to Paragon. I then played the ever loving hell out of it and mastered a good few of the characters. Honestly, didn't even know Predecessor had already come out. I'll surely play it in the future, but not quite yet I suppose considering the backlog I already have. I just hope it maintains a healthy playerbase.
I loved paragon, and i found your channel from paragon in the first place, but i don't really have the heart to play Predecessor because i just honestly don't think it will last that long with a healthy playerbase. Theres also the whole Deadlock thing which has me totally hooked too.
The game is great once u get some things down! Give it a couple shots, relax and have fun. It’s dope! Each hero is like it’s own game which I love. Find ur heroes and you’ll be set. Would love to see u play it more:)
Yehhs more support for these guys! They are legends for pulling this off and keeping it running :D Deadlock will not away any time soon :p Deadlock will just evolve more as will this game i’m sure :)
I love this game so much. Loved Paragon and just found out 1.0 essentially revived it on Console and I haven’t stoped playing it! It really needs a new map
Predecessor player here! o/ Been enjoying this and Deadlock. Pred is 100% a more straight-forward, slower MOBA experience, and not everyone is going to be looking for that, but I'm still loving it.
I don't know if it is how much Deadlock that I've watched or if it actually just makes more sense to me. But the play style and objectives in Deadlock makes more sense than the ones in Predecessor to me.
the objectives in Predecessor are SUPER simple imo, but i've also played so much that they might just make sense to me. as for the play style, its much more unforgiving compared to Deadlock, you'll find its very similar to League in that way.
@@barrackscast7042 i wouldnt say its NOT GOOD, its been a mainstay game for like 15 years now for a reason, but it is insanely hard and its not the kind of game you can just “hop into”. everyone who plays has been playing for ages so the skill floor has raised far beyond whats worth it to the average player looking for something new.
@drewskii- Sorry, I realize my reply was confusing. I meant that I wasn't good at league lol. I enjoy watching league time to time. I just have tried to play and even after 2 weeks I can't get some of the basics down. But league is a great game.
@@barrackscast7042 more power to you man, i wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole😭 learning one moba is tough enough, and at least i can use my aim as a crutch in predecessor🤣🤣
As an OG paragon player being able to even play it again through predecessor is a dream come true. I hate how certain things are handled with the game but I would say it’s overall a good time and is definitely worth playing if you’re into MOBAs.
Think what deadlock has done so incredibly well is how easy it is to pick up, all it’s items are pretty simple, abilities are clear and massive plus is the in game build guides. If games like Predecessor and Smite II had this could be a great time for MOBA’s
I enjoyed this, but I have been loving your Deadlock stuff. I hope you try Smite 2, even though I doubt it will overtake Deadlock, just to get your feel for it. I played a good bit of Smite 1, and it is the MOBA style game I am most familiar with, so I am just curious is all. Either way I really enjoy the channel and I hope you continue to recover, both physically, and mentally. Big vibes to you.
Paragon is the most fun I've ever had in a moba. I don't play Predecessor or the other one simply because it doesn't really have the player base or staying power that Deadlock has, which is why I'm so excited for that. While I am sad that I won't be seeing much more of Paragon, it'll be remembered forever, and we have Deadlock to fill that void
i was a massive fan of Paragon and really happy that Predecessor is back! havent heard of the Deadlock game as im a fairly casual gamer but just happy to see Predecessor doing well
Important note; Predecessor is FULL cross-Platform, PS5, PC & X-box can all play together seamlessly, Deadlock is PC only so only high fidelity moba on console is predecessor ❤ ( Free-To-Play ) + advise the AI 5v5 mode to learn map and abilities in a more relaxed environment 😊 + Brawl is quick and fun mode
Recently discovered Predecessor on Xbox and it’s absolutely insane to think that I’d never know about this game if Xbox hadn’t recommended it to me on my home page. It’s extremely fun and very different from my usually choice of game being Fps. I’m pretty horrible at the game but it is genuinely fun and feels very rewarding when you win team fights or manage to take your lane’s enemy or enemies down. The only similar game I’ve played is Smite but I much prefer Predecessor. Would love to try deadlock but unfortunately it’s not on console and I’ve heard it will never come to console. Hopefully that changes but we’ll just have to wait and see.
I’m so glad you tried this out!!!! I think the strength of Pred is that it’s on console. That opens the door to a lot of people. And FTP, at least on Xbox Shinbi for the winbi!!!!!
I just wanted to say MR. Fruit love seeing the pred games and deadlock ones are super refreshing!!! Wish this game took the older 2018 approach from paragon...but ehh theres deadlock now!! Preds still a great game tho.
Loved paragon back in the day and will always have fond memories of playing my boi Kwang, now that I've upgraded my PC I could try Predecossor properly but Deadlock just blows it out of the water for me
I’ve played league since beta as well as every moba to be released since then.deadlock just feels less moba and more overwatchy to me.predecessor is way more fun imo
I was thinking of this game while playing deadlock, unfortunately I think most of the new people who would play predecessor would likely just play deadlock I'm not confident in this game's future
I played a ton of paragon, even ran into Bluewestlo a couple times. but once they changed the map it kinda changed everything for me and it just never felt the same. I have played some pred I just need some friends to hop into games with cause that's when the real good guy gamer times are had.
Id very much like to see more gameplay of this. Ive been playing it since it launched on xbox and ive been enjoying it a lot and would love to see more people playing it.
I think It’s worth pointing out that deadlock has a lot of money and studio power behind it while predecessor does not. the studio making predecessor was literally created by old fans of paragon.
Pred has multi millions in backing also ar end of the day gamers don't care how or who made the game if the game doesn't get adequate support the players want
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@@epicrabid1857 Compared to how much games cost now, the funding Pred got is still low budget
well deadlock at the moment is just a better game even in beta.
Let's not say Predecessor is an utter underdog here: It is a _Complete_ game unlike Deadlock, with an existing fanbase, Full customisation and monetisation already in place.
Gameplay-wise I think there's a pretty clear distinction between the two -- most players are going to strongly prefer one, not vacillate between them.
I've never played a MOBA before because I wasn't a fan of the camera angle / visuals, but Predecessor visually is more satisfying. I started playing Pred to learn how to play MOBA's to prepare for Deadlock, but even after getting invited to play I haven't even tried Deadlock yet because I've been so addicted to Predecessor. Really would love to see more of Pred on your channel.
Same man - would love to see fruit content for pred again ❤
Greatly agree with this comment. Especially with the recent surge of players going into ranked lately
Totally agree I’d love to see fruit play more but if the desire isn’t there for him I wouldn’t be upset. Deadlock and Pred play very differently, Pred is more of a traditional moba while deadlock is more hero based shooter with Moba aspects. Everyone has a preference between those two, for me personally I love Pred the timing of 1.0 isn’t great with the deadlock release and Smite 2 going into 24/7 alpha. I am concerned for the games future but time will tell
What's crazy is that the game looked and played better many years ago when it was Paragon
What role and characters do you play on predecessor?
Please more Predecessor Mr Fruit! I know Deadlock is the new hotness and i do thoroughly enjoy watching the content on it, but i love predecessor and still think its a fun game.
I love Predecessor and hope it stays for the long haul!
First MOBA and its a LOT of fun
I hope so too!
Definitely will be here for the long haul the ceo said they are primarily focused on the longevity of the game and for it to still here in many years to come
My favorite out of all of the iteration of paragon. Best third person MOBA imo.
Paragon was one of those hidden gems that after it was shutdown no other game could really recreate that feeling, Deadlock has been doing an incredible job and the game isn’t even out yet and while ima continue playing it, watching predecessor gameplay I do really love the character designs WAY more then deadlocks and while it might be an art style thing characters like narbash, revenant, severog ect are just so cool and no one really captures that feel in deadlock
I LOVED the generic ue4 art style.
Like genuinely
I just think the characters in deadlock are plain boring. It might change though since the designs aren't finalised so we can at least hope
I almost got a crunch tattoo, R.I.P. PARAGON, we love you😢😢❤
My problem with deadlock is art direction and character design, feels boring I don’t even play anymore
smite filled the gap for me, it was just a shame it never became huge, still lot of fun memories play smite areana
Predecessor is a GREAT game I have never been in love with MOBAs but this game has turned that around I have played over 150 hours and it keeps me engaged and the gameplay feels so smooth for the most part it needs more players so thanks for the game play!!
I've been a big fan of predecessor for a while now and it's awesome to see it get noticed by a big youtuber. I'd love to see you play more, especially since you didn't get the role you wanted
this game is honestly really solid. i have ~600 hours in it, and its much more attune to a real moba compared to deadlock. if youre on the fence its free to play, so try it out!!!
this does remind me of those MOBA shooters... like Paladins lol. Deadlock is the odd one out of the bunch.
@@maxiejohnson8356 definitely. i tried deadlock out, and while it doesnt quite scratch the same itch that predecessor does for me, it is still enjoyable, and ive been loving fruit’s videos on it.
@@maxiejohnson8356 yeah i think that's is specifically why its more successful than those games
The problem with these games is that they're 3d but barely use verticality.
@@mechanicalsilence1 i actually think predecessor does this pretty well. theres no sky box or wall barrier so lots of characters (dekker, kallari, aurora, rampage, feng mao, etc) can jump over any wall they see to set up for cool ganks and outplays. plus with the blast flowers allowing ability usage during the boop, you can do some pretty rad stuff while mid-air.
Predecessor has wieght and meat behind it. A steel slam feels meaty and a grux pull has a cwrtain oof to it. Deadlock feels very frantic to me.
Agreed
Yeah they seem totally different to me. I have no interest in Deadlocks style of gameplay. Just as I have no interest in overwatch or marvel rivals.
Perfectly describes why I play pred.
Honestly I've been having a blast on predecessor and our community is smaller right now but very into it and growing slowly. With consoles around 20k daily
It's made by a smaller studio who can't really do much marketing as they go so stuff like this is 🔥🔥🔥 to see man. You played my main too!! GG
How do u know consoles are at 20k bro?
Happy to see you check this out again, if you enjoy it I'd love seeing you and Blue hop in to Predecessor. Been playing predecessor since its early beta and its a helluva good time.
Predecessor really does look well built and fun. I hope it finds its fanbase and maintains a solid playerbase because it's cool and the devs have done an amazing job. But MAN, they got shafted again. First Fortnite, now Deadlock. This game just can't catch a break.
It nice to see more people cover and play predecesor. The game it rought around the edges, but it is definitely fun to play. I hope you continue covering it. You just earned another subscriber
Predecessor is made by fans. Deadlock is made my a major studio. Please keep supporting projects like this.
Been Loving Predecessor! Couldn't really get into deadlock tbh. Would love to see more videos of Predecessor! there's a patch coming out October 1st with a new original hero would love to see you play it!
Paragon was a part of my childhood. Then Fortnight became a thing and shot the servers down.
I want Predecessor to succeed, but I really enjoy Deadlock since most of my friends play Deadlock
and it manages to scratch that itch perfectly. I will stick to Deadlock since I also really like the movement there
and will have Predecessor there when I want something a little different. I hope you will make some Predecessor
videos but I probably would enjoy the Deadlock videos more.
Predecessor is bringing out new hero's that will be expanding more on the movement in the game over the next few releases, the next original being released October 1st :)
I just agree with this comment, it is and was similar to me
Just leaving a comment to help the algorithm get this video out there. Predecessor is loads of fun and deserves some good content.
Honestly, the death of Battleborn is probably the most devastated I’ve been in gaming. I’m not someone who has a pc, so no deadlock. I want predecessor to succeed but I bounced off it.
RIP Battleborn
I'll never get over Battleborne...
Battleborn come back to me :c
@@supamex2133 I can never forgive never forget
07 R.I.P Battleborn
I enjoyed so many characters in Battleborn. It's such a shame they never made a ranked mode. If they did, I wouldn't be surprised if the game was still around today.
RIP its only fault was being borne under OW the red headed stepchild
i will say with my friends we have been playing predecessor in the beta for a while and even with deadlock being out we still find ourselves coming backa nd playing pred for hours! i really hope you will continue to learn the game and i know playing multiple mobas is very time consuming but i'd love to see you more on this game!
I knew you'd come back to this game after deadlocks' success! I've been really loving this content. I always loved the paragon videos!
Predecessor is an unsung hero - it's the most fun I have ever had in a video game.
Yes Fruit! Been waiting for you to play Predecessor for months. You and the boys on Pred would be hilarious.
“I’ve made a few videos on it in the best.” You’re “two chains” video made me like moba’s 😂❤
YO, this is not what I was expecting! I'm oddly nostalgic for those Paragon vids (ironically Deadlock started scratching that itch again, haha), but this is awesome to see. I hadn't heard a thing about it until now though, likely overshadowed by Deadlock's success AND Concord's failure.
Is Blue playing/Will he be?
Would love more predecessor and blue playing too
12:11 rust brother deep cut was outstanding! I started laughing so hard I had to rewind to see what I missed because I couldn't stop.
One thing I hope Predecessor adds, coming from Deadlock, is the 'browse build' feature. where people can find builds others made with a click of a button and well...make it on the game.
Paragon was my all time favorite game. I'm glad the OGs took the assets and made something amazing with it . We will continue to support Pred because they gave us back something that was taken from us after fortnite became Epics cash cow
Amen brother
Here's the thing about Deadlock: Deadlock is what it looks like when a massive studio says "What if we put moba elements in a hero shooter?". Paragon answered the question of "What if we made a 3d moba?" They are very different games and I feel Deadlock appeals to more people as it is more similar to Overwatch than Smite while Predecessor is the other way around. I prefer Predecessor as I have missed Paragon since the servers when down and I never much cared for hero shooters in comparison. If you prefer Overwatch to Smite, then Deadlock is for you.
Well said
I agree. I cannot click with Deadlock. The map is messy and while the characters are interesting their abilities are secondary to pew pew. Predecessor on the other hand is all about abilities and having a diversity of range/melee heroes. It's about lane management and objectives. Deadlock has that a little bit but at the end of the day it's just a team based shooter.
Glad you played predecessor!!! it needs more recognition.
would love for you to post more pred content
I just tried it today for a couple of games! I haven't really played a moba before so I like how this game splits the lanes into the different classes and generally tells you what to do.
Also its on console so thats a plus
Tried this out as cope since I don’t have a pc for deadlock. As my first MOBA it’s very fun, but man I feel dumb trying to learn it.
Keep with it! MOBAs have a bit of a learning curve but pred is a bit easier to get into
The best way to learn a moba is find one or two champs you like and play one role. You can learn the game itself much easier if you aren't also playing a new character every other game.
@@SmickyD That’s a good idea. So far I’ve adopted the opposite philosophy. I’ve played maybe 20 matches and try to pick something new (lane or character) each time. Honestly the hardest thing for me right now is the item system. Trying to read a paragraph of different color text and not be idle in spawn stresses me out.
I have a friend trying to walk me through it, and it's still a lot for me to process.
Highly recommend watching mugiwawas beginner playlist on yt
The real reason games blow up is based on content creation from streamers. If big streamers would have tried pred out and hyped it up (lying or not), then put out gameplay every once in a while. That would increase the numbers more than anything. With that being said thanks for covering the game fruit
Been a pred player since the stress test beta (before early access). I've loved it for quite a while until recently. The entire time I was waiting for a ramp up in content production but it's actually slowed down. I pretty much no longer play the game especially with Deadlock in the picture. Deadlock, in my opinion is much closer to what Predecessor should have been. It's like they actually listened to the community feedback and used it. The community has complained about a small cramped map with terrible jungle minions, very little mechanics, not much skill expression, no verticality (even though it looks like there is), and slow content patches. Not all of this was apparent to me until Deadlock came out, and I would also say that Valve is also just very fast. Predecessor is stuck in the past and has been trying to revive Paragon when it's should've created a new and excited/challenging game. The game is extremely stale right now and I see no hope for the game unless they can fundamentally make the game more exciting. Right now it's one of the easiest mobas on the market right now.
Edit: I do think this game is thriving on the console market right now. Not many games like this, other than Smite, for console players; so I'm sure they're eating it up right now.
There's actually loads of console players playing predecessor about 80% of the player base is on console prior to 1.0 where they had over 2mill players playing
@@aaronjames3833 yeah you're definitely right. Just to correct you though, there's not 2 million playing that's just 2 million that have signed up.
same here
I love this game, definitely not for everyone, but this game gets addicting and time consuming every game you play. The party is just getting started!
Once again the editing at 1:25 got me lmao. Love the editing style on these last couple of videos
Love seeing you pay this game. You got me into Paragon years a go and gave loved the game ever since! :)
I used to play Paragon and I've played Predecessor since day one of the tech test, I'd love to see more videos on this game!
I'm so down for this content! I loved this game and enjoyed seeing you play it! I would love to see you play some of these heros!
would love him to play argus maybe lol
i love that predecessors description says "join more than 2,000,000 people!" and the all time peak was 7k players 2 years ago
They must've counted every lane minion spawned too
MORE MISTAH FROOT!!!
You got me into Paragon initially when i found your video at random and It/predecessor have been my favorite games of all time since. Regardless of what happens thanks for bringing me here Man
really hope predecessor gets the attention and growth it deserves, I've enjoyed it a lot the past few months and its been much easier to learn than deadlock for me
Predecessor is fun and I loved paragon as well. I think compared to Deadlock it feels a bit outdated but if the devs keep working on this title a few more years it could become something special.
6:08 one thing that predecessor and deadlock have in common lol
LOL
exactly i always know what im dying to in deadlock. even if sometimes i dont know how to counter it. atleast i still know why it hurt
As someone who played paragon, I love pred. It’s not perfect, but it definitely scratches the itch.
Predecessor may live and I want that… but the paraGONE memes will never die on my watch
I hope Predecessor sticks around. I'm always having a blast.
Its so interesting to watch a clearly skilled player play this game. I have loved this since it was Paragon and am so happy to be able to play it again. The graphics and gameplay are so fun...to any new players...yes it is a lot to learn and get used to but can be so addicting, and when you find others to play with it makes the game that much more enjoyable. Love seeing Pred continue to grow and get noticed :)
It sucks that Deadlock and Predecessor have to be competing because I honestly really like watching Predecessor so much more than Deadlock and hopefully people give it a chance!
Much prefer watching and playing predecessor also
funniest part about 5:55 is that Revenant is his pfp too lmao
😂😂😂😂
Didn't notice, it perfectly fits with the message of the video
I JUST got back into the game yesterday. Found the game through your paragon vids, would love to see more if deadlock slows down
There’s something about the gamba music with fireworks that gets me every time
Its because that predecessor is using decade old fomula, completely unoriginal with added third person perspective, whild deadlock have lots of innovations,the fast transit line, forward shop, skill customisation and enhancement instead of purely rely on equipment for power raise, and generally faster pace that doesnt let people steamroll too much with minor early game advantage
I would love to see more Pred content! It's my first moba and I fell in love instantly. It has the same toxicity problems as every other moba but the gamefeel is just phenomenal
Vid recommended because of watching pred content. After playing both I think I prefer Predecessor. The game feels polished and looks amazing. The only worry is taking care of toxicity with leavings or int’ers and lack of marketing to bring in new players. Balance is pretty good and so the devs are pretty transparent. Really hope to see you play some more. I’ll be back.
I’m an OG Paragon player, so seeing you try this for the first time was refreshing. I would actually enjoy seeing you play this more. It's one of my favorite games... Though admittedly I haven't tried Deadlock
Paragon was the first MOBA I ever played because I'm a console scrub. When Epic shut it down to divert resources to their (at the time) new baby Fortnite, I was crushed. Some of my highest and most frustrating moments in my life as a gamer came from Paragon. It's death to me was very much how you feel about Battleborn (which I also loved). Playing Predecessor isn't 100% the same and I get they made some mechanical changes to make it more in line with other MOBAs but it's damn close. I'm so glad they ported it to console too. I don't have a ton of time on it but man it feels good to gave my baby back.
I started playing this game cause of fruit and man it feels nice to see him comeback to it and playing Zaurus too super cool character,deadkock is the it game right now so it’s understandable that it has more of the spotlight but would love to see a vid now and again of pred or even league
I’d love if you got into pred, my fav game and fav RUclipsr together!
Please make more Pred videos. I loved Paragon and I love Predecessor and it for sure needs a bigger name to get a bit more of a foothold, it’s so much fun when the game is going right we gotta see you carry
Please more predecessor, this game is goated
agreed
I found this channel in the first place due to Paragon. I then played the ever loving hell out of it and mastered a good few of the characters. Honestly, didn't even know Predecessor had already come out. I'll surely play it in the future, but not quite yet I suppose considering the backlog I already have. I just hope it maintains a healthy playerbase.
I loved paragon, and i found your channel from paragon in the first place, but i don't really have the heart to play Predecessor because i just honestly don't think it will last that long with a healthy playerbase. Theres also the whole Deadlock thing which has me totally hooked too.
The game is great once u get some things down! Give it a couple shots, relax and have fun. It’s dope! Each hero is like it’s own game which I love. Find ur heroes and you’ll be set.
Would love to see u play it more:)
Yehhs more support for these guys! They are legends for pulling this off and keeping it running :D
Deadlock will not away any time soon :p
Deadlock will just evolve more as will this game i’m sure :)
I love this game so much. Loved Paragon and just found out 1.0 essentially revived it on Console and I haven’t stoped playing it! It really needs a new map
Predecessor player here! o/
Been enjoying this and Deadlock. Pred is 100% a more straight-forward, slower MOBA experience, and not everyone is going to be looking for that, but I'm still loving it.
I don't know if it is how much Deadlock that I've watched or if it actually just makes more sense to me. But the play style and objectives in Deadlock makes more sense than the ones in Predecessor to me.
the objectives in Predecessor are SUPER simple imo, but i've also played so much that they might just make sense to me. as for the play style, its much more unforgiving compared to Deadlock, you'll find its very similar to League in that way.
@drewskii- ah that makes sense I tried out league and wasn't very good
@@barrackscast7042 i wouldnt say its NOT GOOD, its been a mainstay game for like 15 years now for a reason, but it is insanely hard and its not the kind of game you can just “hop into”. everyone who plays has been playing for ages so the skill floor has raised far beyond whats worth it to the average player looking for something new.
@drewskii- Sorry, I realize my reply was confusing. I meant that I wasn't good at league lol. I enjoy watching league time to time. I just have tried to play and even after 2 weeks I can't get some of the basics down. But league is a great game.
@@barrackscast7042 more power to you man, i wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole😭 learning one moba is tough enough, and at least i can use my aim as a crutch in predecessor🤣🤣
Art wise looks better than deadlock ngl
Predecessor my first MOBA. Others never pulled me in. I absolutely love Pred!!!
THE BROTHER CALL BACK MY MAN IS AN EDITTING GOD 12:10
Epic reference!
YES!!!! been waiting for this for so long, been going back and forth between playing this and deadlock nonstop.
As an OG paragon player being able to even play it again through predecessor is a dream come true. I hate how certain things are handled with the game but I would say it’s overall a good time and is definitely worth playing if you’re into MOBAs.
right now Predecessor is the only game that is making me sit in front of my pc and play, i love it! Hope it stays
You and me both
Think what deadlock has done so incredibly well is how easy it is to pick up, all it’s items are pretty simple, abilities are clear and massive plus is the in game build guides. If games like Predecessor and Smite II had this could be a great time for MOBA’s
I enjoyed this, but I have been loving your Deadlock stuff. I hope you try Smite 2, even though I doubt it will overtake Deadlock, just to get your feel for it. I played a good bit of Smite 1, and it is the MOBA style game I am most familiar with, so I am just curious is all. Either way I really enjoy the channel and I hope you continue to recover, both physically, and mentally. Big vibes to you.
Paragon is the most fun I've ever had in a moba. I don't play Predecessor or the other one simply because it doesn't really have the player base or staying power that Deadlock has, which is why I'm so excited for that. While I am sad that I won't be seeing much more of Paragon, it'll be remembered forever, and we have Deadlock to fill that void
Pred does have staying power
I’ve been playing pred since day one and never struggle to find a match, playerbase is just fine.
Thanks for covering this game . Hopefully a little exposure bring some more players to the game. Longtime paragon player .
E and my friends have been playing it a lot. It’s a good moba. I think it’s just as if not better balanced then paragon.
Worth it if ur a fan of MOBAs
Yeah please more predecessor!!! I first subscribed for your paragon content!! Keep it up!!
More pred videos, pleeeas. It is my favorite game, and having my favorite RUclipsr make videos on it is the best.
i was a massive fan of Paragon and really happy that Predecessor is back! havent heard of the Deadlock game as im a fairly casual gamer but just happy to see Predecessor doing well
For me on Xbox this is the first MOBA I’ve ever played and it’s pretty fun so far, only been playing a few days now tho
Same here. First MOBA ever. Console at that. About two weeks in and I’m hooked.
Important note; Predecessor is FULL cross-Platform, PS5, PC & X-box can all play together seamlessly, Deadlock is PC only so only high fidelity moba on console is predecessor ❤
( Free-To-Play )
+ advise the AI 5v5 mode to learn map and abilities in a more relaxed environment 😊
+ Brawl is quick and fun mode
That’s actually wild that auto buy gets you Penumbra on Zarus. Understandable, but wild.
I have not played this game in months, and watching Fruit post about the game AND play my main makes me want to pick it back up
Recently discovered Predecessor on Xbox and it’s absolutely insane to think that I’d never know about this game if Xbox hadn’t recommended it to me on my home page. It’s extremely fun and very different from my usually choice of game being Fps. I’m pretty horrible at the game but it is genuinely fun and feels very rewarding when you win team fights or manage to take your lane’s enemy or enemies down. The only similar game I’ve played is Smite but I much prefer Predecessor. Would love to try deadlock but unfortunately it’s not on console and I’ve heard it will never come to console. Hopefully that changes but we’ll just have to wait and see.
I’m so glad you tried this out!!!! I think the strength of Pred is that it’s on console. That opens the door to a lot of people. And FTP, at least on Xbox
Shinbi for the winbi!!!!!
Predecessor definitely isn't dead its got the most players its ever had over the last month with over 2 million players even before 1.0 release
That the amount of accounts made not the player base my friend
I just wanted to say MR. Fruit love seeing the pred games and deadlock ones are super refreshing!!! Wish this game took the older 2018 approach from paragon...but ehh theres deadlock now!!
Preds still a great game tho.
Predecessor is so WORTH getting into! been addicted for the past 2months fr
Loved paragon back in the day and will always have fond memories of playing my boi Kwang, now that I've upgraded my PC I could try Predecossor properly but Deadlock just blows it out of the water for me
I’ve played league since beta as well as every moba to be released since then.deadlock just feels less moba and more overwatchy to me.predecessor is way more fun imo
Totally agree.
I was thinking of this game while playing deadlock, unfortunately I think most of the new people who would play predecessor would likely just play deadlock I'm not confident in this game's future
I played a ton of paragon, even ran into Bluewestlo a couple times. but once they changed the map it kinda changed everything for me and it just never felt the same. I have played some pred I just need some friends to hop into games with cause that's when the real good guy gamer times are had.
I have subbed to you for so long and never knew you played the original Paragon!
Deadlock looks convoluted, messy, and visually very ugly tbh. Ima stick with this near perfect moba instead 💪🏼❤️ preddy is amazing!
Glad you’re enjoying it!!
Id very much like to see more gameplay of this. Ive been playing it since it launched on xbox and ive been enjoying it a lot and would love to see more people playing it.
TBH Pred runs like a dream compared to Smite 2, I might go back to it
As a former paragon lover I just don't get the same feeling with predecessor I don't know what it's missing but it's missing something.