Look like a paradise. What is better subwoofers, which you see ever? I mean - as overall a whole construction, magnet structure, voice coil, busket, suspencions, diffusor. Example you see rare models like a mtx 9922 jackhammer, phoenix gold cyclone, elite 12'' Ti, avi zl300neo, diatone sw-g50, orion HCCA182BEAST, pierce audio 12k, 8k, em audio superteam etc. I am absolutely sure that a whole history of audio, automotive for sure, has passed here, and there is something to tell.
Great Work..I have 2 SPL 12s that the spider has come unglued..nothing broken,massive sub,just setn a few years an the glue didn't last..do I need to tear them down an rebuild, or reglue them..an wut glue u recommend..I can send pics thru txt or email..thnx
Subscribed. Done. I'm having a helluva time finding a used 12w7 at the $500 price point AND the seller is actually willing TO ANSWER THEIR MESSAGES. Either that or, they leave me on 'read' when I say I wanna see the sub internals before I hand over $500-600 for the most abused sub on the fanboy planet. Watcha got at that price point bro? I'm not interested in looking at my sub; I'm more interested in HEARING/FEELING it. I like the w7s ability to get low but also the SQ aspects of it. I primarily listen to Metal/Classic rock but I like to play around w/ Hiphop every now and then. I will definitely be doing a sealed enclosure. Did ported years ago, not really my jam.
I have 2 v1 american bass xr12's. Cooked the coil on 1 of em. Can you rebuild it? Those are the best overall subs I've had/herd for sql. The v2 or updated version i have compared aren't as good I'm my opinion. Would love to have a matching set again...
Do you measure and provide specs for each woofer individually? Interested in 12" similar to the old atomic i used to run. I still have the basket and motor. It wasn't high power but 99 dB 1w@1m efficiency
Sure. I have some Atomic motors laying around that I've been meaning to build out. Just text me direct with your name and your shipping address. I'll add you to the phone and then we can go over your options. 6023126504
I know off topic but have ever replaced regular ferrite magnets on a motor with multiple slug magnets with identical height and if so does have any improved performance ??? I was going try on a random beater sub to see if any changes
On a 12db/octave crossover, when you go from 4ohm to 8 ohm, the cap value halves but the inductor value doubles. Because of this, putting an 8ohm driver onto a 4ohm crossover makes for a strange alignment. They will be better served putting a 4ohm resistor in parallel with the 8ohm tweeter to show the crossover something closer to 4ohms.
Also why zobel network works so well, capacitor and resistor in series then parallel across the driver, done right it cancels out the impedance rise and gives more linear crossover control
Aluminum will be fine, coils will be fine most likely for a long time. Steel will rust, and then you gotta spend 3 minutes with some WD-40 and some steel scrubbers... Not that bad lol
We only sell them as built out top assemblies. You can text me direct with your name and your shipping address and we can go over your options 602-312-65-04
What is that red frame sub you have at about 5:27 into the video?? I like that motor and red frame combo Oh snap, and that other red ti basket sub at 5:59 into the video?? Love the look of both of those subs. Both motors look to be decent size as well. Always a fan of the ti basket and that other 1 looks like tge basket incriminator used on their older model subs
Sorry for the delay. I had to be at my desk to answer this one. The first is a GONZO 21" that is already sold. I can make you that in a 24", 21", 18" and as you saw in the other shot, a 15". That 15" is a D1 and available for only $800 shipped with removable top and 3yr warranty. I normally build those custom for $950 shipped which is still half the price that Sundown charges for something like that. You can text me direct when you're ready. Just let me know your name and shipping address. I'll add you to the phone and we can go over your options. 6023126504
You can just text me direct. Just introduce yourself and let me know your name and your shipping address and I will add you to the phone and then we can go over your options 602-312-6504
I use to be onto the sterio world in the late 90's/early 2000's then due 2 a injury, I cannot remember how to achieve different ohm loads. I am purchasing a 2000 Lesabre w/77k miles, garage kept & YES, OWNED BY A LITTLE OLD LADIE. it is clean for the northeast! No rust at all. Anyways, I need a full size dual 12 box & some decent 12's to handle a jp23v2 or, I am considering a powerus after upgrading my charging system. I would really like a dual alternator kit. What are the specs on your $150. Set up? I figure the box alone is worth 75 so, no matter what it's a deal. Is that shipped or local pick up only?
Just text me direct when you're ready and let me know your name and your shipping address and we'll put you in the phone and go over your options 602-312-6504
That's a nice old car boss! Wish my 01 regal was still around, but nobody wanted to buy it and I scrapped it. It was an ugly, rusty piece of junk but she ran good.
I’m assuming you don’t like JL Audio based on your finger comment. I’ve always ran JL Audio from their very basic to their top end. I’ve never had an issue with any of their subs and some of my systems I would push them hard with Rockford Fosgate amps which I find they respond to very well. I utilize JL amps when I’m building a system more for the best overall sound quality. But I also don’t drive BMW or Mercedes vehicles either lol.
@@RobotUnderground Right on, I get it. It’s all for fun. The big difference with me is that I’m not one of those stuck up JL Audio groupies. I drive a Ford Diesel crew cab truck and have been running car audio since 1991. I’ve ran everything from JL, RF, Orion HCCA Cerwin Vega and the older Boston Acoustic for an example. I love RF amps for their attack, loudness and punch. I loved Orion HCCA amps for their pure underrated cheater power lol. RF subs are great but I love JL subs because they are so clean sounding and are fully capable of putting a hurt in ya if setup properly. I definitely do agree that they are way overpriced. I’m hoping that will be resolved once they are fully integrated into the Garmin family.
@@RobotUnderground wow i haven’t been to Walmart in a long time. Can’t believe they’d stoop that low. They pulled a kicker! My W0 and W3 series from the 90’s were very good and clean. I’ll be honest I haven’t utilized any of their lower tier subs since the early 2000’s so I can’t honestly claim anything about them now. Just hoping that Garmin purchasing JL does good and not bad and helps lower the cost. Garmin produces some really good high end equipment so it’s a match well made.
Yeah it's a triple stack version 12-in Go ahead and text me direct and I'll send you the first pictures before I do the video 602-312-6504 let me know your name and your shipping address and I'll add you to the phone
It depends on what you want and if I can even make it just text me direct with your name and your shipping address and I will add you to the phone and then we can go over your options 602-312-6504
Ahh the JL snobs that can't afford new JL gear! 💩 on that line of thinking. They don't understand that they could buy so much better gear that they could actually afford if they weren't chasing a brand badge
I would have blast going through your shop looking at everything but i would probably leave bankrupt 😂
Could watch these shop walk&talk vids all day long.
Look like a paradise. What is better subwoofers, which you see ever? I mean - as overall a whole construction, magnet structure, voice coil, busket, suspencions, diffusor. Example you see rare models like a mtx 9922 jackhammer, phoenix gold cyclone, elite 12'' Ti, avi zl300neo, diatone sw-g50, orion HCCA182BEAST, pierce audio 12k, 8k, em audio superteam etc. I am absolutely sure that a whole history of audio, automotive for sure, has passed here, and there is something to tell.
Wow that’s a lot of drivers you have around , crazy
Great Work..I have 2 SPL 12s that the spider has come unglued..nothing broken,massive sub,just setn a few years an the glue didn't last..do I need to tear them down an rebuild, or reglue them..an wut glue u recommend..I can send pics thru txt or email..thnx
Just use some super glue
Damn I wish I lived near you Id love to work with you on weekends
Wow that thing looks stout!! That copper head.
Waw alot of good stuff
Wach...out with that Copperhead ...😮 reminds me of a high put generator internals...😮
Subscribed. Done. I'm having a helluva time finding a used 12w7 at the $500 price point AND the seller is actually willing TO ANSWER THEIR MESSAGES. Either that or, they leave me on 'read' when I say I wanna see the sub internals before I hand over $500-600 for the most abused sub on the fanboy planet.
Watcha got at that price point bro? I'm not interested in looking at my sub; I'm more interested in HEARING/FEELING it. I like the w7s ability to get low but also the SQ aspects of it. I primarily listen to Metal/Classic rock but I like to play around w/ Hiphop every now and then. I will definitely be doing a sealed enclosure. Did ported years ago, not really my jam.
My alpine type r i rebuilt broke immediately because i soldered the tinsel leads too tight on one coil and they pulled off. Arg
I have 2 v1 american bass xr12's. Cooked the coil on 1 of em. Can you rebuild it? Those are the best overall subs I've had/herd for sql. The v2 or updated version i have compared aren't as good I'm my opinion. Would love to have a matching set again...
Let's get you something better. Text me direct with your name and your shipping address and we can go over your options 602-312-6504
How much for the white basket you need to find a motor for. Around min 15:20 in video
Just text me direct with your name and your shipping address. I'll add you to the phone and then we can go over your options. 6023126504
Do you measure and provide specs for each woofer individually? Interested in 12" similar to the old atomic i used to run. I still have the basket and motor. It wasn't high power but 99 dB 1w@1m efficiency
Sure. I have some Atomic motors laying around that I've been meaning to build out. Just text me direct with your name and your shipping address. I'll add you to the phone and then we can go over your options. 6023126504
Do you have any 6.5" enclosures laying around by any chance?
Just the plastic ones
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Is the carbon fiber cone harder to work with? Or? Why don't you want to mess with them?
EXPENSIVE. If you mess them up, it's $100.
But isn't that worth it so you can act like a snob?? @@RobotUnderground
I give my jizz for free. #HandysNotHate I don't need to be a snob.
@@RobotUndergroundI might have a "friend" that's interested in acquiring the robot reproductive fluid you speak of 😮
copper pole and top plate, helps with something? le or heat dissipation
Gimmick
I have the Skar EVL with new SPL soft parts was thinking about up grading the motors how much for 4 motors
Just text me direct with your name and your shipping address and then we can go over your options 602-312-6504
I know off topic but have ever replaced regular ferrite magnets on a motor with multiple slug magnets with identical height and if so does have any improved performance ??? I was going try on a random beater sub to see if any changes
Nope. No difference
Do you have a 12" w3v3 coil available? Or a recone kit for said subwoofer?
It's cheaper and easier just to replace it you can text me though 602-312-6504
Yes you do or nah? I'm in desperate need of either
I don't carry parts for subs that are cheaper just to replace.
Hey Patrick can u do a video on CDT audio, never seen any videos or history on who makes there stuff. I believe there based in California
Do u have any 24” cast aluminum baskets ..?
Yes
On a 12db/octave crossover, when you go from 4ohm to 8 ohm, the cap value halves but the inductor value doubles. Because of this, putting an 8ohm driver onto a 4ohm crossover makes for a strange alignment. They will be better served putting a 4ohm resistor in parallel with the 8ohm tweeter to show the crossover something closer to 4ohms.
Also why zobel network works so well, capacitor and resistor in series then parallel across the driver, done right it cancels out the impedance rise and gives more linear crossover control
@@fullsendmarinedarwin7244 all true but has nothing to do with what I said. 👍
@@BaddDukk I know just had an urge to interject some semi-related info lol
What’s that hcca 15 or 18”?
Wonder how all that stuff is handling being out in the elements? Rain?
Meh, it's fine. My guys only care about value and performance
Aluminum will be fine, coils will be fine most likely for a long time. Steel will rust, and then you gotta spend 3 minutes with some WD-40 and some steel scrubbers... Not that bad lol
That single sub box n the background is it a 12 n do u want to sell it ?
Put down a time stamp so he knows which box ur talking about. My guess is, it's 4sale
You can text me a screen capture 602-312-6504
6:00 min is the time stamp looking for a single 12 box thank you@@RobotUnderground
Do you sell parts? Looking to buy a frame basket, magnet, coil etc
What would u want for a pair of 24” baskets..?
We only sell them as built out top assemblies. You can text me direct with your name and your shipping address and we can go over your options 602-312-65-04
How much for some of the bigger jl audio subs. Im not picky
Text me direct 602-312-6504
i want to build an 18 where do I find the parts?
Just text me direct with your name and your shipping address and we can go over your options 602-312-6504
I'd like to know the total weight of the copperhead after it's assembled
Well it depends on what size sub you decide to make it. I have someone that wants it to be an 18"
What is that red frame sub you have at about 5:27 into the video?? I like that motor and red frame combo
Oh snap, and that other red ti basket sub at 5:59 into the video?? Love the look of both of those subs. Both motors look to be decent size as well. Always a fan of the ti basket and that other 1 looks like tge basket incriminator used on their older model subs
Sorry for the delay. I had to be at my desk to answer this one. The first is a GONZO 21" that is already sold. I can make you that in a 24", 21", 18" and as you saw in the other shot, a 15". That 15" is a D1 and available for only $800 shipped with removable top and 3yr warranty. I normally build those custom for $950 shipped which is still half the price that Sundown charges for something like that. You can text me direct when you're ready. Just let me know your name and shipping address. I'll add you to the phone and we can go over your options. 6023126504
Where do I buy some of your woofers?
You can just text me direct. Just introduce yourself and let me know your name and your shipping address and I will add you to the phone and then we can go over your options 602-312-6504
Is the re a se or sx?
The 15" is an SEv1 which uses the 3" coil.
Do you have a website or something where I can purchase some of these motors
Just text me direct with your name and shipping address. I'll add you to the phone and then we can go over your options. 6023126504
@@RobotUnderground perfect thank you man look forward to doing business with you watch a lot of your videos you're very informational
I use to be onto the sterio world in the late 90's/early 2000's then due 2 a injury, I cannot remember how to achieve different ohm loads. I am purchasing a 2000 Lesabre w/77k miles, garage kept & YES, OWNED BY A LITTLE OLD LADIE. it is clean for the northeast! No rust at all. Anyways, I need a full size dual 12 box & some decent 12's to handle a jp23v2 or, I am considering a powerus after upgrading my charging system. I would really like a dual alternator kit. What are the specs on your $150. Set up? I figure the box alone is worth 75 so, no matter what it's a deal. Is that shipped or local pick up only?
Just text me direct when you're ready and let me know your name and your shipping address and we'll put you in the phone and go over your options 602-312-6504
That's a nice old car boss! Wish my 01 regal was still around, but nobody wanted to buy it and I scrapped it. It was an ugly, rusty piece of junk but she ran good.
If I was still in AZ I'd come over and help run your FB market and Ebay channels. Get stuff sold!! Lol what model Xtant amp was that?
1001 I think
I'm going to post a bunch of it to eBay today
lets goo !! nice
Can you rebuild my “15 pure audio sub it’s stuck don’t move
I'm sure I can but it might be easier to do something else you'll have to text me some pictures
I’m assuming you don’t like JL Audio based on your finger comment. I’ve always ran JL Audio from their very basic to their top end. I’ve never had an issue with any of their subs and some of my systems I would push them hard with Rockford Fosgate amps which I find they respond to very well. I utilize JL amps when I’m building a system more for the best overall sound quality. But I also don’t drive BMW or Mercedes vehicles either lol.
I ust bust balls over the price. It's fine, nothing special, just overpriced
@@RobotUnderground Right on, I get it. It’s all for fun. The big difference with me is that I’m not one of those stuck up JL Audio groupies. I drive a Ford Diesel crew cab truck and have been running car audio since 1991. I’ve ran everything from JL, RF, Orion HCCA Cerwin Vega and the older Boston Acoustic for an example. I love RF amps for their attack, loudness and punch. I loved Orion HCCA amps for their pure underrated cheater power lol. RF subs are great but I love JL subs because they are so clean sounding and are fully capable of putting a hurt in ya if setup properly.
I definitely do agree that they are way overpriced. I’m hoping that will be resolved once they are fully integrated into the Garmin family.
lol. Not so. You may just see W3 and lower in Walmart is all.
@@RobotUnderground wow i haven’t been to Walmart in a long time. Can’t believe they’d stoop that low. They pulled a kicker! My W0 and W3 series from the 90’s were very good and clean. I’ll be honest I haven’t utilized any of their lower tier subs since the early 2000’s so I can’t honestly claim anything about them now.
Just hoping that Garmin purchasing JL does good and not bad and helps lower the cost. Garmin produces some really good high end equipment so it’s a match well made.
Is the sunshine sub for sale?
Yeah it's a triple stack version 12-in Go ahead and text me direct and I'll send you the first pictures before I do the video 602-312-6504 let me know your name and your shipping address and I'll add you to the phone
how can i get a hold of you?
You selling that hcca on the floor
No that's for a client
@@RobotUnderground ok 💯💯💯
How much you charge
It depends on what you want and if I can even make it just text me direct with your name and your shipping address and I will add you to the phone and then we can go over your options 602-312-6504
Man I’m pretty sure your local to me.
720 W. Southern Ave., Mesa, AZ 85210
The bone yard.
I’m willing to by a 15 inch prebuilt subwoofer 2000 rms
Ok. Just text me when you're ready. Let me know your name and your shipping address and then we can go over your options 602-312-6504
Cant wait for sub from you😁
Just text me direct with your name and shipping address. I'll add you to the phone and then we can go over your options. 6023126504
@@RobotUnderground I did it's the single voice coil when I'm good for 2500 watts
Ahh the JL snobs that can't afford new JL gear! 💩 on that line of thinking. They don't understand that they could buy so much better gear that they could actually afford if they weren't chasing a brand badge
Even American Bass is awesome
Jl isn't the same since Garmin took over
@@RobotUndergroundI swear by American bass for most of my customer installs, they last and pound. I still have a xfl 12 from like 8 years ago.
Yep. It will never be. It'll just be another brand with TONS of advertising and garbage. They just want money, no passion.
Bro wtf so may basket
Why is everything so dirty my goodness
Can you go bigger pls 🤔🤣🤣🤣🙈🙈🙈
Well it's already in like Ludacris area
Found you on FB. Sent you a PM. Lets make something happen!
Make some knick Knacks with them Bird bones from the cat and all the Haitians would be running up from Ohio with money in hand😂🫠