Any scientist who said "Gravity is your friend" never tried walking down a steep flight of stairs after a long night of drinking tequila. Love the double rehash of "rockers and boxes" Mike, made the entire subject crystal clear, and the camera work was even nicer in this one cameraman Mike! Since day 1 the channel has been top notch, but somehow you manage to improve it just a bit every vid... well done gents!
I had a long day of work. Got home and saw my notification for your video. Popped open a cold one, cast this to my TV, I plopped back on the couch and relaxed to a good 'Ole Pacific Mike video. Just felt the stress slip away instantly. Thanks, Mike! -Rene Guitarrista, '94 Evo
Mike that’s like my wife but 3/2/2021 was my anniversary for 42 years and my divorce on that day also he sister broke use up the third time and last time she has about 2years to live and depressed and her sister talk her in divorce so she could get everything but she got nothing but to take care of her tell she dies I hat it cause her sister turned out don against his on mother
I love it. A very small application of gasket sealer! It doesn't need to spurt out of the cracks to do its job. I hate scraping GLOBS of sealer off of heads. The oil hardens it and it just makes a mess of things when it's time to clean. I hope folks pay attention to this important technique.
A person would be lucky to find an engine rebuilder that pays attention to detail like you do. Don't ask me how I know. Thanks for sharing your experience I wish I had access to this 30 years ago.
Great videos. The tips from a lifetime of doing it. Your definitely my go to. Getting ready to completely go thru a 78 fxe I did 30 years ago. Fleshing up my memory. Thanks.
Thanks Mike for this video. My old mechanic may he rip always used high temp sealant on the gaskets. I still do, but now you show a better way to install the rocker boxes on the heads. 👍👍
Thank you for sharing how gravity can be used in the assembly. Gravity is one of the reasons I purchased a magnetic pickup tool years ago. I did find a use for magnetism other then holding sockets and my butter fingers. While working on my shovel I lost one of the Hex bolts for the derby cover. My bad. Fortunately the local hardware store had them. As usual I found the lost bolt after I had made the purchase. What I found interesting is the magnetic tool would barely hold onto the new bolt where it stuck tight to the old bolt. Am guessing made in China of a poor grade alloy was the reason for the discrepancy. Good reason to purchase original equipment if possible and a cheap metallurgical test using a magnet. Thank you again for a Super Video. Stay safe and keep the rubber side down.
It could be, but I have machined a lot of stainless ( mostly 303 or 304 ) for medical use. The weight and finish was different. Unfortunately I no longer have easy access to be able to test the hardness of the steel. Last fall I purchased a 2011 FLHTK. The plan is to take one last road trip, as my wife has never seen mountains. We wouldn't last long on my shovel. Friends and family think were nuts at our advanced age for this bucket list plan. I bought a Clymer manual service manual. It recommends the equivalent of a Champion RA8HC gapped at .040. I have two NGK iridium 1X DCPR7E1X plugs pre-gapped at .031. Would you recommend gapping the NGK's at 0.40? Any advice would be much appreciated.
Yes, we're old. I hope you and your wife have a wonderful trip. Please write back tell me about it. I ran a pair of those plugs in a 2001 Dyna I had for a short time. I was afraid to regap them and ran them the way they were (.031). That bike really ran with proper jetting and a SE ignition module, pipes and air cleaner. I think (?) the plugs actually added to the performance, but I can't tell you how much.
@@pacificmike9501 Thank you so much for the best wishes and the advice on the plug gap. We will definitely write you our experiences on the trip. Were hoping the weather warms up by May and that Covid is kept in check by then. Thanks again, Tim & Rosie
Really dig all your videos! I’m an early twin cam guy so anytime ya get a twin cam in for work I def like to see those vids and pick up info. Thanks for a making a great motorcycle channel!
Great to watch your videos Mike, maybe you could make a video where you make a Shovelhead front fork with new gaskets and what else needs to be done to get it nice again. Per Nielsen DK 😀
I don't know what year and model you're dealing with. Maybe it will come up. Shovelheads had different style front ends and three different manufacturers.
Howdy Mike, Thank YOU for reiterating Putting GRAVITY to work FOR you instead of AGAINST you :-) on the Rocker-Arm solution & assembly As always = Working SMARTER / NOT / Harder :-) COOP ....................................
This is great advice. Thanks. I've always held a fondness for Shovelhead engines built with STD or S&S alternator/generator crankcases and STD cylinder heads. Slabside Shovels rule!
Hey Mike great video , when you install the pushrods can you please give a detailed explanation of the adjustment . In the manuel it has a little tool like a gauge and its use is a little confusing . Thank you .
It is a little confusing. They're trying to get the lifters compressed the exact amount required. I've used nothing but better aftermarket hydraulic lifters for years on Shovelheads. I then set them according to the manufacturer's recommendation.
My old boss used say I did everything backward until he got so fed up with the way I did things he decided to work with me to prove I was wrong. After a full days work with me he changed his mind and said it was the easiest days work he had. You are so right Mike Gravity if used correctly is one of the best tools you can have. It's a good feeling when you can show your boss a new way of doing things. Great Video Mike One and Mike Two.
Yes, leaky rocker boxes are annoying and yes, I’m going to just live with it for now. And per your advise, I’m going to be installing an oil cooler before summer hits here in Las Vegas!
Thanks for the great tutorial, I have never worked on a shovel, but it is my all time favourite looking head shape, with the knuckle a close second. Enjoyed the video very much, the early mild weather has had me on the road about a month earlier than normal, so I am in a very good mood these days. cheers and happy roads to you! As I tell my riding group on those real nice days "this is what we dream about in February".
Looking and sounding good Mike! Years back I wrote service manuals, and I would never publish an engineers assemble instructions until I actually tried them out. Most got rewritten, making use of my years as service man and some old fashioned common sense. Sounds to me like similar backgrounds and results.....
Thank You. I did very poorly in school, hyperactive mess, but, I was a straight "A" English student. I really appreciate well thought out instructions.
It's great to hear the Shovel is coming along Mike. I would have loved to see you use the roller rockers. What if I were to help you with a new set of correct length Kibblewhite valves ?
Another great vid mike! Your tips and channel helped me immensely in my recent build. Thank you! I wonder if by chance you have an email I can send some before and after pics of it made possible largely by you.
Timing is everything. Just so happens I just got my heads back from the shop and will be putting my 1980 Shovel back together this week. It is not my first but I have so enjoyed your videos and common sense methods. Maybe I missed it, but did you mention the gasket compound you prefer? Thanks Bruce. All the best for a safe riding season. Cheers. Kerry
Always love your vids Mike. Thanks for passing down the knowledge. My 68FLH components are coming together nicely in large part because of your guidance. Here's a question that I (and others?) might benefit from...in a frame-off rebuild, what order makes the most sense for re-assembly? I'm doing mock-ups now, and maybe if you or one of your other subscribers have time you could share a quick breakdown on the most practical approach to getting her back together. I have a rolling chassis at the moment with a freshly painted frame, trued wheels & hubs, new tires. This weekend I put new seals in the front forks, installed the front fender, wheel, front brakes and cable. Have a fresh wiring harness and I assume that's the next step, but I'm a bit nervous to start that project if there's something else I should be taking care of first. All the parts have been removed/disassembled/cleaned/rebuilt/replaced already and I'm just trying to get a feel for what should come next. Thanks to you or anyone else who wants to share their thoughts. More rebuild videos to come on my channel this spring for anyone who's interested!
If the chassis is ready (don't forget to clean mounting for motor to bare metal), mount the engine, then the trans. We have shown this stuff. Enjoy it. What fun!.
@@pacificmike9501 Thanks Mike! And Sorry, should have been more detailed. I meant like the oil box, the battery cage, the harness, the nacelle, the exhaust, etc. etc. Just wasn’t sure if there was a ‘most efficient’ approach when it comes to post engine/trans work. You’re the best!
If the engine is assembled and the rest disassembled I like to lay the engine over on a blanket and lower the frame onto the engine, it’s lighter that way and I get Bobbi to help and using tape on the frame it goes together nice.
You know, if you read a Harley service manual.... Let's see. The chassis is together. Read where it says "Stripping Motorcycle to Remove Engine." Seriously, it will make things more easily occur to you. You might look at that, then reassembly. It will clear a lot of things up for you.
@@pacificmike9501 Yep, Service Manual Chapter 3A Verses 9 and 10. ;) That makes sense, I was just curious if you or anyone else had "insider tips" that might make reassembly progression more efficient. For example, the manual suggests adding the exhaust after the engine is mounted, but I've seen some wait until more components are bolted on before they try to feed the crossover. Stuff like that. But I also know every bike has its unique quirks...and I've heard a little something-something about "best laid plans." ;) Take it easy and keep the vids coming!
😮 I now see where I have to fix mine I thought it was just a simple bolt going to the rocker and then I can fix it with an O-ring but I see now I have to take the whole thing apart lol just like me 39 years old I got 83 shovel head
Mr. Mike, first off thank you for the videos I am studying to build my first shovel from the ground up and you are a wealth of knowledge. I do have a question looking at heads I’ve noticed that some are dual independent intakes and some or not, could you explain the differences and quality’s of each by chance? Thanks again for the awesome knowledge
Dual, independent intakes are, of course for dual carburetors. If you are an experienced tuner and need this for some truly go fast reason, I can see it. Otherwise, think about it this way: The engine fires one cylinder at a time and breathes individually through the same carburetor. We're not talking about ignition, we're breathing through the carb. When you decide to experiment, it might be fun to play with, but it becomes all consuming.
Hello, I have an Evo sporty, is it important to turn the cylinder head bolts by 90 degrees at the end? Hammer performance Dan says no only with torque thanks Mike 🤜
I do it just like the service manual says. If I'm using a specific gasket made by a supplier other than Harley Davidson, I follow their procedure. But that ninety degree method performed exactly as Harley says works perfectly. Again, exactly as they say. That applies to preparing hardware exactly as they specify.
You got the best show ever mike and I can t wait to see the flat head up and running so when torqueing the heads do you torque all 3 heads the same as in the flat head shovel head and the evo and just how much do torque them thanks mike
Hi Mike ....is it possible to do new gaskets without removing the jugs or if you're not able to do the upside down trick . What brand gaskets do u recommend and what sealant do you use to hold the gaskets in place.
Mikes (various), please forgive me but, after watching something else entirely, I accidentally popped you folk on at double speed. Now; imagine Micky Spillane, ('The cab pulled up with a jerk, the jerk got out, so we got in' etc.) merrily rebuilding a Shovel's knocker box after three mugs of 'Columbian special roast' joe . . . & doing it all with near perfect diction! (Can you do 'Bronx' next time? Respect from Sherwood while I go back & watch it properly : )
I read in Donny Peterson's book that early Shovelheads and Sportsters had no gasket between the rocker boxes and heads, but then he says he has never seen it. Have you ever come across any?
Hey Mike, I’ve had my heads off of my jugs while I was getting new pistons/rings for the jugs. They haven’t been apart but have been sitting in my closet, what’s a good method of cleaning them out before reinstalling onto the cylinder jugs? Just want to ensure everything is clean as possible. Thanks!
I don't now how dirty. Any good solvent that doesn't attack aluminum. Are they assembled? Are the rocker arms assembled? Are the valve stems all dry? This stuff should all have lubricant before firing them up.
@@pacificmike9501 the rockers are still attached to the heads with everything installed, I just pulled the whole head assemblies off of the cylinders. I’ve had them covered in my closet while they have been off. I’ve read washing them with soap and water, drying them and then lubing the inside for reassembly, does that sound about right?
Question. I am starting to get a small leak on the rear cylinder rocker box. The service manual says you do not have to remove the engine to replace the gasket. I am hoping to just check the torque setting on the rocker box nuts. (15 ft lbs). If this doesn't fix it, then pull the heads, right. I can see where this rabbit hole is going to lead. My other question, what is the brand and type of gasket sealant your using. thanks
I am assuming you have a Shovelhead. Rocker box leaks are common. You'll have to remove the head. It sounds like you haven't had the heads off before, so to make sure the head gaskets match, remove them both. That is called "Ultra Gray." I use it on rocker box gaskets. Any auto parts store should have it.
Im using James steel with silicone rocker gaskets on my shovelhead. Im wondering if the torque LBS is the same? I assume the sequence stays the same correct?
Hi Mike, I bought some new reproduction Shovelhead heads and need to install rocker box studs. Is there any kind of special adhesive needed to install these? I can install them with my fingers and am concerned about them backing out
I'm running a pair of aftermarket Shovel heads. The studs screwed right in and that's all I did. I did torque the nuts according to factory specs and no problem so far. My heads are STD's.
@@pacificmike9501 Thanks, that's pretty much what I did except for some red loctite, kept bothering me because OEM studs are hard to remove so thought they something special
They are "Different." They are an "interference fit." If you ever try to remove one from a factory Harley Shovelhead with factory rocker box studs, you will find out what I mean. Aftermarket ones just (generally) screw in.
Hey Mike I have all 3 evo motors 883 ,1200. 1340 so when I am torque the heads down are they all the same and if not can you please tell me what to torque them at thank you mike
If you're using stock head gaskets, the service manual gives complete instruction on the tightening order and the exact process for this. If not, the gasket manufacturer gives the final torque number.
@@pacificmike9501 To prevent loosening under vibration. Without lock washers, I thought that might be a problem. I have a '97 Sportster that even with proper torque drops parts without Loctite, LOL. Love your videos, by the way.
@@pacificmike9501 I have to say, watching your videos has helped me learn to be more relaxed when working on my motorcycle. I used to get so frustrated and it would affect the people around me. So thank you for your lessons of patience.
I believe you're referring to a "speed handle." That's what we've always called it. This one was one of my dad's. That means it was probably made in the fifties. I'm sure they're still available.
The bob ross of the motorcycle world
Thank You
One of the few channels it's safe to like beforehand. Thank for the knowledge.
My pleasure
Mike is a wizard - and what I enjoy the most is his relaxed and patient approach. I have learned more than I could talk about from this dude
I too enjoy finger painting parts and gaskets. It is the way.
It's a feel thing.
@@pacificmike9501 Gaskets seal, no debris in the engine, and gaskets come off pretty easy or easier. Finger painting is the way.
Any scientist who said "Gravity is your friend" never tried walking down a steep flight of stairs after a long night of drinking tequila. Love the double rehash of "rockers and boxes" Mike, made the entire subject crystal clear, and the camera work was even nicer in this one cameraman Mike! Since day 1 the channel has been top notch, but somehow you manage to improve it just a bit every vid... well done gents!
Or walked up a set of flight stairs to a plane.
Now, that's a tall compliment. Thank You.
👍😊
That goes under the heading, work smarter, not harder. Great video.
Thanks 👍
I've found gravity be a fickle freind.
Don't fight it.
Great tip Mike good to see you
Thanks 👍
I had a long day of work. Got home and saw my notification for your video. Popped open a cold one, cast this to my TV, I plopped back on the couch and relaxed to a good 'Ole Pacific Mike video. Just felt the stress slip away instantly. Thanks, Mike! -Rene Guitarrista, '94 Evo
Thank You. That's great.
Its always real pleasure to watch your videos, because you always learn something new. thanks Mike have a good day my friend
Thanks, you too!
You should have been a country singer Mike. Great voice.
That’s the trick of the trade with experience
Thank You
Mike that’s like my wife but 3/2/2021 was my anniversary for 42 years and my divorce on that day also he sister broke use up the third time and last time she has about 2years to live and depressed and her sister talk her in divorce so she could get everything but she got nothing but to take care of her tell she dies I hat it cause her sister turned out don against his on mother
THANK YOU...for sharing. Watching and very much enjoyed.
Glad you enjoyed it
You sir are the Bob Ross of motorcycles. Fantastic job!
Wow, thanks!
Great information like that trick with rocker box upside down.
Glad it was helpful!
@@pacificmike9501 ... Big blast of common sense.
I love it. A very small application of gasket sealer! It doesn't need to spurt out of the cracks to do its job. I hate scraping GLOBS of sealer off of heads. The oil hardens it and it just makes a mess of things when it's time to clean. I hope folks pay attention to this important technique.
Thank You
Mike you make putting a motor together seem so easy you've shown me so much thanks
I take it seriously. I'm really glad you've been enjoying it.
Thanx for the help Mike
Thank You
That’s an awesome idea!!
Glad you think so!
A person would be lucky to find an engine rebuilder that pays attention to detail like you do. Don't ask me how I know. Thanks for sharing your experience I wish I had access to this 30 years ago.
Thank You
Letting gravity do the work. I dig it man.
It's free.
Great videos. The tips from a lifetime of doing it. Your definitely my go to. Getting ready to completely go thru a 78 fxe I did 30 years ago. Fleshing up my memory. Thanks.
Glad to help
It's a real pleasure to watch your vids. Thanks to keep them coming! Cheers from France
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Mike for this video. My old mechanic may he rip always used high temp sealant on the gaskets. I still do, but now you show a better way to install the rocker boxes on the heads. 👍👍
We all keep learning. Thank You
Thank you for sharing how gravity can be used in the assembly. Gravity is one of the reasons I purchased a magnetic pickup tool years ago. I did find a use for magnetism other then holding sockets and my butter fingers. While working on my shovel I lost one of the Hex bolts for the derby cover. My bad. Fortunately the local hardware store had them. As usual I found the lost bolt after I had made the purchase. What I found interesting is the magnetic tool would barely hold onto the new bolt where it stuck tight to the old bolt. Am guessing made in China of a poor grade alloy was the reason for the discrepancy. Good reason to purchase original equipment if possible and a cheap metallurgical test using a magnet. Thank you again for a Super Video. Stay safe and keep the rubber side down.
Maybe the new one is stainless steel. High nickel content.
It could be, but I have machined a lot of stainless ( mostly 303 or 304 ) for medical use. The weight and finish was different. Unfortunately I no longer have easy access to be able to test the hardness of the steel. Last fall I purchased a 2011 FLHTK. The plan is to take one last road trip, as my wife has never seen mountains. We wouldn't last long on my shovel. Friends and family think were nuts at our advanced age for this bucket list plan. I bought a Clymer manual service manual. It recommends the equivalent of a Champion RA8HC gapped at .040. I have two NGK iridium 1X DCPR7E1X plugs pre-gapped at .031. Would you recommend gapping the NGK's at 0.40? Any advice would be much appreciated.
Yes, we're old. I hope you and your wife have a wonderful trip. Please write back tell me about it. I ran a pair of those plugs in a 2001 Dyna I had for a short time. I was afraid to regap them and ran them the way they were (.031). That bike really ran with proper jetting and a SE ignition module, pipes and air cleaner. I think (?) the plugs actually added to the performance, but I can't tell you how much.
@@pacificmike9501 Thank you so much for the best wishes and the advice on the plug gap. We will definitely write you our experiences on the trip. Were hoping the weather warms up by May and that Covid is kept in check by then. Thanks again, Tim & Rosie
Really dig all your videos! I’m an early twin cam guy so anytime ya get a twin cam in for work I def like to see those vids and pick up info. Thanks for a making a great motorcycle channel!
I usually do those if I have a friend in need. I have old bikes. But, it does come up.
I learned more from you in 15 minutes than I ever did in 30 years of sitting in a Harley shop
Thank You
Great to watch your videos Mike, maybe you could make a video where you make a Shovelhead front fork with new gaskets and what else needs to be done to get it nice again. Per Nielsen DK 😀
I don't know what year and model you're dealing with. Maybe it will come up. Shovelheads had different style front ends and three different manufacturers.
@@pacificmike9501 1977-up.....😀 😀 👌 👌Flh.
You are awesome Mike. Thank you for sharing.
My pleasure!
Look at that smile! That's ShoveLove for ya! Another fun video. Thanks for being you.
And thank you for being you.
Excellent. Cool tip/trick.
Glad you liked it!
Howdy Mike,
Thank YOU for reiterating Putting GRAVITY to work FOR you instead of AGAINST you :-)
on the Rocker-Arm solution & assembly
As always = Working SMARTER / NOT / Harder :-)
COOP
....................................
Cool, thanks
This is great advice. Thanks. I've always held a fondness for Shovelhead engines built with STD or S&S alternator/generator crankcases and STD cylinder heads. Slabside Shovels rule!
Yah, eventually, we'll build a generator shovel. Thank You.
Hi Mike great video interesting and love learning thank you Kenny
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you.
Just wondering what sealer your using ....looks like a user friendly product.... thanks for sharing your craft...
I'm wondering the same thing. I have some new rocker box gaskets for my Ironhead. I have a tube of Threebond. Would that be a good choice?
For that part, it is Ultra Grey. Any automotive parts house.
Nice , I saw this before anyone gave you a thumbs down. Well done as usual.
Thanks 👍
Hey Mike great video , when you install the pushrods can you please give a detailed explanation of the adjustment . In the manuel it has a little tool like a gauge and its use is a little confusing . Thank you .
It is a little confusing. They're trying to get the lifters compressed the exact amount required. I've used nothing but better aftermarket hydraulic lifters for years on Shovelheads. I then set them according to the manufacturer's recommendation.
My old boss used say I did everything backward until he got so fed up with the way I did things he decided to work with me to prove I was wrong. After a full days work with me he changed his mind and said it was the easiest days work he had. You are so right Mike Gravity if used correctly is one of the best tools you can have. It's a good feeling when you can show your boss a new way of doing things.
Great Video Mike One and Mike Two.
Thank You
Perfect
Thank You
Yes, leaky rocker boxes are annoying and yes, I’m going to just live with it for now. And per your advise, I’m going to be installing an oil cooler before summer hits here in Las Vegas!
Oil coolers are life savers!
Good. Have fun.
pretty cool idea
Thanks!
Hello Mike Darrell from South Georgia love the shows and can’t wait to see you bike finished and me come buy it from you. Lol
Thank You. After 42 years with her, we're attached.
Thanks for the great tutorial, I have never worked on a shovel, but it is my all time favourite looking head shape, with the knuckle a close second. Enjoyed the video very much, the early mild weather has had me on the road about a month earlier than normal, so I am in a very good mood these days. cheers and happy roads to you!
As I tell my riding group on those real nice days "this is what we dream about in February".
Thank You. And same to you.
Looking and sounding good Mike! Years back I wrote service manuals, and I would never publish an engineers assemble instructions until I actually tried them out. Most got rewritten, making use of my years as service man and some old fashioned common sense. Sounds to me like similar backgrounds and results.....
Thank You. I did very poorly in school, hyperactive mess, but, I was a straight "A" English student. I really appreciate well thought out instructions.
@@pacificmike9501 I do think that life is one big learning opportunity, and you are a master-level at this point.
Not quite there yet, but Thank You. I'm very flattered.
Great video. I learned something.
Glad it was helpful!
It's great to hear the Shovel is coming along Mike. I would have loved to see you use the roller rockers. What if I were to help you with a new set of correct length Kibblewhite valves ?
Thank You. But, I'm happy.
I am getting Kibblewhite for my Evo!
Another great vid mike! Your tips and channel helped me immensely in my recent build. Thank you! I wonder if by chance you have an email I can send some before and after pics of it made possible largely by you.
Put it on your own channel and tell me to look at it.
Thank you
Thank You
Great video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Overkill on assembly lube ??? No such thing . Thanks for the great video Mike ..
Thank You
Very nice!! Great way of doing.
Thank you!
Sweet dude!!
Thank You
Timing is everything. Just so happens I just got my heads back from the shop and will be putting my 1980 Shovel back together this week. It is not my first but I have so enjoyed your videos and common sense methods. Maybe I missed it, but did you mention the gasket compound you prefer? Thanks Bruce. All the best for a safe riding season. Cheers. Kerry
In the previous video on setting end play, Mike says what his preferred sealer is. I believe it's RTV Silver silicone sealant.
Thanks J W.
It's Ultra Grey. That's what I use a lot, not everywhere. I use a lot of different stuff, different places.
Always love your vids Mike. Thanks for passing down the knowledge. My 68FLH components are coming together nicely in large part because of your guidance. Here's a question that I (and others?) might benefit from...in a frame-off rebuild, what order makes the most sense for re-assembly? I'm doing mock-ups now, and maybe if you or one of your other subscribers have time you could share a quick breakdown on the most practical approach to getting her back together. I have a rolling chassis at the moment with a freshly painted frame, trued wheels & hubs, new tires. This weekend I put new seals in the front forks, installed the front fender, wheel, front brakes and cable. Have a fresh wiring harness and I assume that's the next step, but I'm a bit nervous to start that project if there's something else I should be taking care of first. All the parts have been removed/disassembled/cleaned/rebuilt/replaced already and I'm just trying to get a feel for what should come next. Thanks to you or anyone else who wants to share their thoughts. More rebuild videos to come on my channel this spring for anyone who's interested!
If the chassis is ready (don't forget to clean mounting for motor to bare metal), mount the engine, then the trans. We have shown this stuff. Enjoy it. What fun!.
@@pacificmike9501 Thanks Mike! And Sorry, should have been more detailed. I meant like the oil box, the battery cage, the harness, the nacelle, the exhaust, etc. etc. Just wasn’t sure if there was a ‘most efficient’ approach when it comes to post engine/trans work. You’re the best!
If the engine is assembled and the rest disassembled I like to lay the engine over on a blanket and lower the frame onto the engine, it’s lighter that way and I get Bobbi to help and using tape on the frame it goes together nice.
You know, if you read a Harley service manual.... Let's see. The chassis is together. Read where it says "Stripping Motorcycle to Remove Engine." Seriously, it will make things more easily occur to you. You might look at that, then reassembly. It will clear a lot of things up for you.
@@pacificmike9501 Yep, Service Manual Chapter 3A Verses 9 and 10. ;) That makes sense, I was just curious if you or anyone else had "insider tips" that might make reassembly progression more efficient. For example, the manual suggests adding the exhaust after the engine is mounted, but I've seen some wait until more components are bolted on before they try to feed the crossover. Stuff like that. But I also know every bike has its unique quirks...and I've heard a little something-something about "best laid plans." ;) Take it easy and keep the vids coming!
Thanks Guy.. !!
You're welcome!
Nice trick learn something to do everyday
Glad you like it.
Great video, thank you !
Glad you liked it!
😮 I now see where I have to fix mine I thought it was just a simple bolt going to the rocker and then I can fix it with an O-ring but I see now I have to take the whole thing apart lol just like me 39 years old I got 83 shovel head
I don't remember what you're doing. If it's jut a leak, replace the 0-ring.
"If something is inconvenient to do, then turn it upside down" I'll write it on my wall.
Now, there's some wisdom.
Mr. Mike, first off thank you for the videos I am studying to build my first shovel from the ground up and you are a wealth of knowledge. I do have a question looking at heads I’ve noticed that some are dual independent intakes and some or not, could you explain the differences and quality’s of each by chance? Thanks again for the awesome knowledge
Dual, independent intakes are, of course for dual carburetors. If you are an experienced tuner and need this for some truly go fast reason, I can see it. Otherwise, think about it this way: The engine fires one cylinder at a time and breathes individually through the same carburetor. We're not talking about ignition, we're breathing through the carb. When you decide to experiment, it might be fun to play with, but it becomes all consuming.
Hello, I have an Evo sporty, is it important to turn the cylinder head bolts by 90 degrees at the end? Hammer performance Dan says no only with torque thanks Mike 🤜
I do it just like the service manual says. If I'm using a specific gasket made by a supplier other than Harley Davidson, I follow their procedure. But that ninety degree method performed exactly as Harley says works perfectly. Again, exactly as they say. That applies to preparing hardware exactly as they specify.
Thanks for your Answer Mike 👍
You got the best show ever mike and I can t wait to see the flat head up and running so when torqueing the heads do you torque all 3 heads the same as in the flat head shovel head and the evo and just how much do torque them thanks mike
Each one is different, Flathead, Knucklehead, Panhead, Shovelhead, Evolution.
Hi Mike ....is it possible to do new gaskets without removing the jugs or if you're not able to do the upside down trick . What brand gaskets do u recommend and what sealant do you use to hold the gaskets in place.
I've been using Cometic and James. No sealant on base gaskets.
Hey Mike your got best show going on and I learn a lot from you so is stp oil just as good your red lube oil
I like assembly lube. STP probably works. Haven't used it in years.
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Mikes (various), please forgive me but, after watching something else entirely, I accidentally popped you folk on at double speed. Now; imagine Micky Spillane, ('The cab pulled up with a jerk, the jerk got out, so we got in' etc.) merrily rebuilding a Shovel's knocker box after three mugs of 'Columbian special roast' joe . . . & doing it all with near perfect diction!
(Can you do 'Bronx' next time? Respect from Sherwood while I go back & watch it properly : )
Micky Spillane. My dad was a fan. Fun stuff. Slow down. I am.
I read in Donny Peterson's book that early Shovelheads and Sportsters had no gasket between the rocker boxes and heads, but then he says he has never seen it. Have you ever come across any?
Yes. I only saw it on a bone stock, never been apart before 66 Shovel. That was a long time ago, but something you don't forget.
Mike what sealant do you use on the rocker boxes,??,I'm doing a 1974 Ironhead.
Thanks much
I like to use "Ultra Grey."
I have a tube of optimum gray,,I'm assuming that will work as well,,I tore it down because of a rocker box leak,,Thanks for the response
Hey Mike, I’ve had my heads off of my jugs while I was getting new pistons/rings for the jugs. They haven’t been apart but have been sitting in my closet, what’s a good method of cleaning them out before reinstalling onto the cylinder jugs? Just want to ensure everything is clean as possible. Thanks!
I don't now how dirty. Any good solvent that doesn't attack aluminum. Are they assembled? Are the rocker arms assembled? Are the valve stems all dry? This stuff should all have lubricant before firing them up.
@@pacificmike9501 the rockers are still attached to the heads with everything installed, I just pulled the whole head assemblies off of the cylinders. I’ve had them covered in my closet while they have been off. I’ve read washing them with soap and water, drying them and then lubing the inside for reassembly, does that sound about right?
Question. I am starting to get a small leak on the rear cylinder rocker box. The service manual says you do not have to remove the engine to replace the gasket. I am hoping to just check the torque setting on the rocker box nuts. (15 ft lbs). If this doesn't fix it, then pull the heads, right. I can see where this rabbit hole is going to lead. My other question, what is the brand and type of gasket sealant your using. thanks
I am assuming you have a Shovelhead. Rocker box leaks are common. You'll have to remove the head. It sounds like you haven't had the heads off before, so to make sure the head gaskets match, remove them both. That is called "Ultra Gray." I use it on rocker box gaskets. Any auto parts store should have it.
Im using James steel with silicone rocker gaskets on my shovelhead. Im wondering if the torque LBS is the same? I assume the sequence stays the same correct?
Sequence is the same. James gives instructions with their head gaskets. The rest are the same as factory Harley.
Mike what do you use as a gasket sealer on your rocker boxes I have tried everything for 40 years and after a few thousand at all leaks
I really go for the more modern, more "crushable" gaskets and "ultra grey," which can be found at any auto parts store.
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Hi Mike, I bought some new reproduction Shovelhead heads and need to install rocker box studs. Is there any kind of special adhesive needed to install these? I can install them with my fingers and am concerned about them backing out
I'm running a pair of aftermarket Shovel heads. The studs screwed right in and that's all I did. I did torque the nuts according to factory specs and no problem so far. My heads are STD's.
@@pacificmike9501 Thanks, that's pretty much what I did except for some red loctite, kept bothering me because OEM studs are hard to remove so thought they something special
They are "Different." They are an "interference fit." If you ever try to remove one from a factory Harley Shovelhead with factory rocker box studs, you will find out what I mean. Aftermarket ones just (generally) screw in.
Hey Mike I have all 3 evo motors 883 ,1200. 1340 so when I am torque the heads down are they all the same and if not can you please tell me what to torque them at thank you mike
If you're using stock head gaskets, the service manual gives complete instruction on the tightening order and the exact process for this. If not, the gasket manufacturer gives the final torque number.
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Why no blue Loctite on the nuts?
What for?
@@pacificmike9501 To prevent loosening under vibration. Without lock washers, I thought that might be a problem. I have a '97 Sportster that even with proper torque drops parts without Loctite, LOL. Love your videos, by the way.
The Shovelhead is using "stretch studs." I've never used loctite on those. There is a time and place for everything. I don't think that's it.
Hey Mike is the torque the same
The same as what?
What happened to the flathead build?
It's waiting while I catch up on other things I've promised to my bikes I ride now. Spring is here. We'll get back to the Flathead.
Hello what brake fluid goes in the front ??
The front of what? Check your service manual, different years, different fluid.
@@pacificmike9501 really
What confuses me is why do you torque it to 10 ft lbs and then 15 ft lbs wouldn't that make it 25 ft lbs?
The first round gets them all started evenly. Then, you go for the torque you want.
@@pacificmike9501 I have to say, watching your videos has helped me learn to be more relaxed when working on my motorcycle. I used to get so frustrated and it would affect the people around me. So thank you for your lessons of patience.
My dad used to terrify the whole neighborhood. I never wanted to do that.
what is that tool called at 9:00?
I believe you're referring to a "speed handle." That's what we've always called it. This one was one of my dad's. That means it was probably made in the fifties. I'm sure they're still available.
@@pacificmike9501 hell yeah I need one. its like using an impact gun without the risk of over tightening
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