Agreed, there was a video going into a bit more detail than this link ruclips.net/video/2Ef3iiY3K4s/видео.html but I can't find it right now. I'd love to see one that is less PR and more going into detail of how the actual data is passing between the kit too, even though I have a rough idea already. Would also be curious if Zen ever considered ditching PPPoE, even though I imagine its a bit of a hassle as it would mean effectively another concurrent network as migrating existing customers I expect is problematic.
You can't go saying things like 1.8Gbit per second when Zen don't offer this yet, that's just mean. Its just a race right now, do Cityfibre reach me first hopefully offering their 2Gbit service, or will Openreach more widely roll out 1.8Gbit.
I mean, I wouldn’t get too excited, OpenReach are still deploying GPON and have been very quiet about upgrading to 10gbps let alone 25gbps XGS-PON trunks (GPON maxes out at 2.5 down, 1.25 up, but that trunk is shared among among many customers. If you are on a trunk with just a handful of heavy users high speed users you will find that you will be able to burst those speeds (as long as no one else is) but you won’t get that speed all day, every day.
look at what theyve got on most of the western continent in europe already. the swiss I think even have SKorea beating plans now for 25Gbit both ways for like 60 quid a month! even the more wide reaching services that have a physical line are 1/5/10GBit there. Its mental how much BT companies have held back our infrastructure since the 80s.
@@lainwired3946Well when it comes to Openreach migrating away from GPON (which they will have to do sooner or later) thankfully techonogies such as XGS-PON use different wavelengths compared to GPON so the two can co-exist on the same trunks. So OR can have customers on GPON and XGS-GON at the same time, OR "just" (yeah, its not as simple as waving a magic wand, but this comment is long enough already) need to add the equipment in the exchange and then customers are ready to move over to the higher throughput trunks (either because of capacity or customers (the ISPs) demanding faster speeds) they just need to swap the ONT at the retail customers premises. ATM an ONT swap needs to be done by an OR engineer, but one day OR will prob allow end customers to do the ONT swap, so hopefully that will become easier. The "hard" part is laying the actual fibre, once thats done it allows gradual upgrades to the backbone/customers equipment.
Thanks for your comment 🙂... we're working on launching both 1.8Gbps from Openreach and 2.5Gbps from CityFibre. Don't have a firm date yet, but will happen within the next few months.
@@SomeoneBloodyRandom I'm aware of the Openreach limitations but as I am disabled I sleep unpredictable hours, so the odds of my heavy downloads conflicting with the neighbours is pretty low, plus I kinda doubt any of my neighbours are heavy users. Obviously I'd prefer Cityfibre for the symmetrical speed alone and better technology, but Openreach is a good stop-gap.
Great video. I would love to see more content on the channel of all varieties, interviews and things like this too. Maybe a tour of an exchange etc
Many thanks for your feedback.
Agreed, there was a video going into a bit more detail than this link ruclips.net/video/2Ef3iiY3K4s/видео.html but I can't find it right now. I'd love to see one that is less PR and more going into detail of how the actual data is passing between the kit too, even though I have a rough idea already.
Would also be curious if Zen ever considered ditching PPPoE, even though I imagine its a bit of a hassle as it would mean effectively another concurrent network as migrating existing customers I expect is problematic.
@@alexatkin Great link, really interesting video that I didn't know Zen had made before!
Ahh great job Richard. 😊
they did not wear gloves to avoid contamination. This is a mess.
You can't go saying things like 1.8Gbit per second when Zen don't offer this yet, that's just mean.
Its just a race right now, do Cityfibre reach me first hopefully offering their 2Gbit service, or will Openreach more widely roll out 1.8Gbit.
I mean, I wouldn’t get too excited, OpenReach are still deploying GPON and have been very quiet about upgrading to 10gbps let alone 25gbps XGS-PON trunks (GPON maxes out at 2.5 down, 1.25 up, but that trunk is shared among among many customers. If you are on a trunk with just a handful of heavy users high speed users you will find that you will be able to burst those speeds (as long as no one else is) but you won’t get that speed all day, every day.
look at what theyve got on most of the western continent in europe already. the swiss I think even have SKorea beating plans now for 25Gbit both ways for like 60 quid a month! even the more wide reaching services that have a physical line are 1/5/10GBit there. Its mental how much BT companies have held back our infrastructure since the 80s.
@@lainwired3946Well when it comes to Openreach migrating away from GPON (which they will have to do sooner or later) thankfully techonogies such as XGS-PON use different wavelengths compared to GPON so the two can co-exist on the same trunks.
So OR can have customers on GPON and XGS-GON at the same time, OR "just" (yeah, its not as simple as waving a magic wand, but this comment is long enough already) need to add the equipment in the exchange and then customers are ready to move over to the higher throughput trunks (either because of capacity or customers (the ISPs) demanding faster speeds) they just need to swap the ONT at the retail customers premises.
ATM an ONT swap needs to be done by an OR engineer, but one day OR will prob allow end customers to do the ONT swap, so hopefully that will become easier.
The "hard" part is laying the actual fibre, once thats done it allows gradual upgrades to the backbone/customers equipment.
Thanks for your comment 🙂... we're working on launching both 1.8Gbps from Openreach and 2.5Gbps from CityFibre. Don't have a firm date yet, but will happen within the next few months.
@@SomeoneBloodyRandom I'm aware of the Openreach limitations but as I am disabled I sleep unpredictable hours, so the odds of my heavy downloads conflicting with the neighbours is pretty low, plus I kinda doubt any of my neighbours are heavy users. Obviously I'd prefer Cityfibre for the symmetrical speed alone and better technology, but Openreach is a good stop-gap.