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  • Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024

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  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад +58

    i once took a class with someone that was able to do twenty 5 minute monologues back to back! took her a month to learn them

  • @ZEEAmani
    @ZEEAmani 11 лет назад +151

    Best public speaking advice video I have ever seen. Keep it up you non blinking human.

  • @user-vn8oh5dp3b
    @user-vn8oh5dp3b 10 лет назад +255

    His mouth says public speaking, but his eyes say "help me" or possibly "There is a snapping turtle in my pants." Also perhaps "I'm saying it, I'm saying it, please don't shoot me"

    • @deborahhanna6640
      @deborahhanna6640 5 лет назад +13

      There is a snapping turtle in my pants.

    • @justthimu1683
      @justthimu1683 3 года назад +1

      hey that's exactly how it felt!! just couldn't figure out in what format do I store it in my brain! thanks. and I really you're still alive ma'am✌️

    • @jaredknapp8886
      @jaredknapp8886 2 года назад

      Blink twice if they have your family in a van in the desert.

  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад +54

    i like pretending that my armpits are enemy spies and i have to keep them quiet!

  • @raysonehovijitra
    @raysonehovijitra 6 лет назад +332

    This is how the Ze Frank do.

    • @Erjann
      @Erjann 5 лет назад +4

      This a great video and great reply. Thanks to both of you.

    • @darrenmorales3885
      @darrenmorales3885 3 года назад +1

      @@Erjann delightful

    • @Erjann
      @Erjann 3 года назад

      @@darrenmorales3885 thanks, doesn't feel like a year since I made that comment. So happy he is putting out new videos.

    • @NorseForse
      @NorseForse Год назад

      👏👏👏👏👏

  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад +16

    impossible! most of the best actors are neither ;)

  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад +13

    my eyes do.

  • @BetaFett
    @BetaFett 9 лет назад +62

    He may have the most animated face this side of Jim Carrey, but when he speaks what comes out is 99% gold :)

  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад +3

    wasn't sarcastic. i just think memorization is a skill like any other. just takes practice and study. it isn't reserved for the smart, and it is not insanely hard.

  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад +51

    i like smelling the tennis ball can after i open it!

    • @ishanshubajpai645
      @ishanshubajpai645 3 года назад

      me too! Even if same with new shoes

    • @JeanneOxley
      @JeanneOxley 3 года назад

      Oh, so you are part Labrador too?
      Good boy.. what a good boy!

    • @ishanshubajpai645
      @ishanshubajpai645 3 года назад

      @@JeanneOxley Yup! At least the purpose for what I have nose should be fulfilled!

    • @wideawake5630
      @wideawake5630 Год назад +1

      Don't do that. It's toxic

  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад +5

    why not memorize the script?

  • @TheKsalad
    @TheKsalad 10 лет назад +161

    I think it's terrifying how little you blink

    • @PatrickAllenNL
      @PatrickAllenNL 10 лет назад +11

      I learned he edits thos out.

    • @lamosos
      @lamosos 10 лет назад +9

      As I watched this, I felt my soul being sucked out.

    • @LukePiala
      @LukePiala 10 лет назад +5

      Its called cocaine :-D

    • @aselbasel21
      @aselbasel21 9 лет назад +25

      TheKsalad He blinks when you blink

    • @johncavicchia5829
      @johncavicchia5829 7 лет назад

      I don't think so, I counted one and a half blinks in the entire presentation, the only full blink coming at the end.

  • @hilahcooking
    @hilahcooking 12 лет назад +15

    This is great advice, especially the Honesty Talk idea.

  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад +15

    i like peeling the plastic thingy off of the yogurt!

    • @PetraDarklander
      @PetraDarklander 2 года назад

      I enjoy licking the underside of said plastic thingy!

    • @NorseForse
      @NorseForse Год назад

      You *monster.* 🫢

  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад +11

    but my hairs are all forgetting what color they are!

  • @TheEverix
    @TheEverix 10 лет назад +54

    I remember once in year 11, I forgot my palm cards for a public speaking test. Despite my better judgement and terror, for the first time in my life I said "fuck it" and stood up and did it off the top of my head.
    I have never spoken about such an inane subject so passionately in my entire life, before or since.
    I got extra credit for not using cards too, which was nice.

    • @mickblock
      @mickblock 10 лет назад +1

      Awesome! good stuff!

    • @ian4594
      @ian4594 9 лет назад +6

      ***** ... and then you realized, everything you just said to the crowd was a bunch of baloney..... and you're not wearing pants.....

    • @Zoroaster4
      @Zoroaster4 9 лет назад

      I would purposely not wright my speach out till after I gave it because I think its better to think on the ball.

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy Год назад

      must be hard holding the mirror just right, to read the notes on your head, and speak.

  • @wolfmoon426
    @wolfmoon426 10 лет назад +183

    Dude, your eyeballs are disturbingly distracting

    • @あいしゃ-k4i
      @あいしゃ-k4i 10 лет назад +4

      oh my god :'D

    • @andyprz8756
      @andyprz8756 10 лет назад +15

      they're awesome right? lol

    • @Spacecamboy
      @Spacecamboy 10 лет назад +4

      thought it's only me XDD

    • @VocalEdgeTV
      @VocalEdgeTV 5 лет назад +8

      And strangely beautiful.

    • @compscript7973
      @compscript7973 5 лет назад +10

      This must be why his video showed up when I searched for the animal aye aye.

  • @cloozie4750
    @cloozie4750 9 лет назад +21

    Thank you, Ze. You're a life saver and I miss your talky videos

  • @CBJ0618
    @CBJ0618 6 лет назад +38

    And Morgan Freeman said this man will have thw voice of an angel and the eyes of Satan on crack

  • @cailinjones5051
    @cailinjones5051 12 лет назад +3

    Sometimes I can't decide whether I watch your videos for the interesting opinions and advice and awesome experiences you share, or for the incredible expressiveness of your face and moments. Either way, I love the things you do here on the RUclipss.

  • @poolboyinla
    @poolboyinla 11 лет назад +14

    Very cool video.
    I am speaking at a high school in a couple of days.

  • @UNdeadwalter521
    @UNdeadwalter521 10 лет назад +2

    I give public talks pretty often Ze, probably a monthly basis varying from
    subjects i need to research, and sometimes simply reading to a large crowd. at one point i did so in front of 10,000 people. they weren't there to see me but for the information I was delivering along with many many other speakers. So as someone who is so familiar with this subject, understand my gratitude when i say this was genuinely helpful. i've always been terrible with impromptu speaking and your advice has really and truly helped. along with many many other points. and those ideas that didn't help, didn't help because through experience i had already incorporated them into routine. so to sum up this comment, thanks Ze. i must've watched all of "A show" 3 times over already. your abstract way of taking things apart and making sense of them has helped me and no doubt many others.

  • @TheBohemianCactus
    @TheBohemianCactus 9 лет назад +14

    I swear whenever I know I have to give a presentation or talk, I come and watch this again.

  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад +7

    yeah but what if it hid all of your cookies in the toilet?

    • @Vohlfied
      @Vohlfied 2 года назад +2

      YOU FLUSHED MY COOKIES?!

  • @aimaginary
    @aimaginary 12 лет назад +2

    This is one of the best videos on public speaking I've seen. Thanks, Ze!

  • @VagabondCircus
    @VagabondCircus 12 лет назад +2

    It's always kind of amazing to me how inspiring people can give you advice with great guidelines to follow while simultaneously reminding you that a person's methods are completely subjective. This video is one of those cases.

  • @K0S0s
    @K0S0s 10 лет назад +31

    Ze... I wish you would come back.

  • @amisallee
    @amisallee 12 лет назад +1

    Your 2006 episode on "This is my baseline" is one of the two episodes I use when I introduce some to zefrank. As a performer and teacher of performers I found it very grounding.
    The other episode is when you discovered that someone, or someones was transcribing your episodes.
    Funny and classic zefrank. Thanks for coming back into the light. We missed you.

  • @growthwithupamanyu
    @growthwithupamanyu 12 лет назад +1

    The timing for this couldn't be better! I have a talk tomorrow; a presentation in front of the whole school. Your videos are changing me life, Hosea, and I want you to know that.

  • @orphicqueen
    @orphicqueen 5 лет назад +3

    Frank, you are a rose among thorns! Thank you for this! 🥰🖤🤘🏻 Much love!

  • @DungeonMistressC
    @DungeonMistressC 12 лет назад +12

    Lol "one, wear pants. Two, your own pants"
    Thank you Ze

  • @365cupsoftea
    @365cupsoftea 12 лет назад

    I watched this a few weeks back when you first uploaded it but in those few weeks I signed myself up to give a speech for a public speaking competition and re-watching this just blew me away. Thank you this has been so helpful.

  • @TheSalonGuy
    @TheSalonGuy 12 лет назад +34

    I like to sit in a bathtub and turn the shower on and pretend I am in a submarine that was hit by a torpedo.

    • @willlavine1105
      @willlavine1105 3 года назад +2

      what the... nvm

    • @jakepullman4914
      @jakepullman4914 3 года назад +3

      I think giving a speech while doing that would be difficult. But you'd definitely have the audience's attention.

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy Год назад +1

      a submarine at shallow depth*

  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад

    do you always call things what they are clearly not?

  • @jules_2.0
    @jules_2.0 12 лет назад +1

    I had to give a presentation at work last week, and I was so nervous about it. Most people kept telling me I would do fine, which did not help, but then one of my colleagues told me it was normal to feel nervous, and that feeling nervous actually helped you do better. I really appreciated that comment.

  • @kateribarry
    @kateribarry 12 лет назад +1

    Hey, Ze. After hearing about you from the Vlogbrothers, I've finally started exploring your channel and other videos and I came across your TED Talks video from 2010. I was really excited because I love TED Talks. The last bit about the girl with anxiousness really hit me because that is exactly how I feel during school and I'm about to start my senior year in high school. Just wanted to say thank you. I got very emotional from the song. Thank you for being so awesome and insightful. :)

  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад +3

    i just take them off for my videos.

  • @ineloque
    @ineloque 12 лет назад +1

    Exactly this! There are so many ways to go about public speaking successfully, and using a script isn't necessarily "public reading" - it's all about how you do it. Unless we recognise that we all function differently in this context, people are going to feel like they're not worthy of being listened to. No one should feel ashamed for doing what they need to do in order to come across in an engaging manner. : )

  • @wutherering
    @wutherering 12 лет назад

    When I speak publicly I think the best thing to do is really to not think about it too much- if you have prepared yourself correctly for it, what else is there to do but take a few breaths and smile (smiling is a great way to make yourself actually smile, and I find that it relieves anxiety (or excitement)). Also, keep it in your mind that people are here to listen to you. You are awesome, and you can do this.

  • @SmokeRzzzz
    @SmokeRzzzz 7 лет назад

    Last part caught me by surprise. Anywho, I think these insights and the videos are done some years after your first experiences which is why you so easily create a line and connect the dots, but so long as you strive for new experiences, awkward moments are going to insist and at this point it just comes down to how you're trained / prepared to face them, everything else is flavor. And on a basic level, I like the way you've trained yourself to face them, one of the last hurrah's of sincerity. Kudos and i hope to see you back.

  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад +1

    i figure i am a new surrounding for it too. and it's probably just as scared as i am.

  • @clicliw
    @clicliw 12 лет назад +1

    Every video should end with an epic banjo.
    Great video ze, even just watching this video makes me wish I had to make a public speech now. Maybe so that I can just prove that everything you say is awesome. But no matter what the speech is about, I'm sure I could put a million quotes from you into it, because I think everyone in the world needs a few zefrank words to help them out every now and again. Really, thanks.

  • @junker154
    @junker154 10 лет назад

    Great commentary. Got a job where I need to talk a lot in front of crowds and hold certain types of presentations, this helped me out a great deal. Thanks!

  • @sabresister
    @sabresister 12 лет назад +2

    Thanks Ze! This made me feel a lot less anxious; I'm going to watch this video every day until I have to teach my first college class on the 20th(!).

  • @jberg18
    @jberg18 12 лет назад

    This is what I've found helpful in public speaking.
    1. Know your information. You don't need to know everything about your topic, just what you are speaking on.
    2. You are not talking to a crowd. You are speaking to individuals. Pick a few people around the audience and look at them.
    3. Talk with people about your topic when writing your speech.

  • @erisedstraeh1
    @erisedstraeh1 12 лет назад

    I led a service at my church a week ago, and I used a combination of reading and extemporizing for my spoken bits. I scripted out entire portions, but other parts I simply TALKED about the subject at hand, without any notes to guide me. This worked very well for me (possibly in part because my writing style is very similar to my speaking style).

  • @SohnoJam
    @SohnoJam 12 лет назад +1

    Geez, I hate speaking in public and suddenly I feel like I should take the next opportunity to, just because. Ze, you're inspiration in human form.

  • @miriamminkoff
    @miriamminkoff 4 года назад

    I’m creating a long awaited video in 2 days. Thanks to you I’ve added another song & instruments. You have inspired me to up my game considerably. I really appreciate it 🌹

  • @TheEnemyOfYourEnemyRK
    @TheEnemyOfYourEnemyRK 12 лет назад

    I had to give a speech that I put myself up as the person to give when there were 15 people all equally qualified but I knew I had to say my words and they let me. I stuttered, I stumbled and I public read but I knew that I wasn't the most qualified, what matter was that I believed in what I needed to say and the people I spoke to all understood how deeply I believed every word I said. I think when you can to open your heart to show that what you're saying matters to you is really important

  • @bluebottlebunnyfarm
    @bluebottlebunnyfarm 4 года назад

    That was inspiring. I do a musical comedy act. I’m just at open mic stage but I used to get so nervous. Once I fainted on stage. Every performance was easier after coming back from that. Now I tell myself that I’m not nervous I’m excited and then I tell the audience how excited I am and that makes them excited and then they usually laugh at me, which is a good thing.

  • @MossyMozart
    @MossyMozart Год назад

    These are all really GOOD tips. One thing that I would add is if you need to pause a few moments to reorient yourself, do. It may feel like forever to you, but to the audience it will not be - you will just appear to be a thoughtful speaker.

  • @NbSkaz
    @NbSkaz Год назад

    I have spoken before others a few times and Ze's advice is super good. Especially that 1. The audience ppl won't dislike you and are likely impressed already with you being infront of them and 2. Of course you will be great :) Do it. Try it and you'll most importantly impress yourself too.

  • @PureDelofan
    @PureDelofan 12 лет назад

    I've taken Speaking classes in my high school (still attending) and I am somewhere in between you Ze, and a speaking-phobe. Half of this I know from my own experience and nodded my head thinking "That's exactly right" and the other half was new to me. Thank you Ze for the additional advice.

  • @thefaboo
    @thefaboo 12 лет назад

    I'm a big fan of what my highschool speech teacher called extemporaneous speaking. Make short notes about what you want to say. Practice with the notes, and have the notes with you when give the talk.
    In my experience, a stack of note cards (or good visual aids) works well for this, with one note per card and one word or a short phrase per note.
    This way you both have a prepared talk to refer to, and you're still speaking in the moment.

  • @someuffishthoughts
    @someuffishthoughts 12 лет назад +1

    YES, this is fantastic advice. I only wish my college public speaking professor saw things your way, Ze. He was much too formulaic about it.

  • @hippogriffgrrl10
    @hippogriffgrrl10 12 лет назад

    Terrific video-- again. And I just wanted to say: I FINISHED MY FINISHING STAMP. And I am so proud of myself for having done so, even though it didn't turn out quite like I'd wanted. Thank you so much for inspiring me-- inspiring us.

  • @cogway
    @cogway 12 лет назад +1

    The problem with the internet is that a lot of sentences don't end the way you think they octopus.

  • @ruddyadam
    @ruddyadam 12 лет назад

    Constant pausing/playing of any zefrank video yields a steady stream of epic face.

  • @cinderling5472
    @cinderling5472 5 лет назад +3

    I could fall in love with this man 💕

  • @jbasom2002
    @jbasom2002 12 лет назад

    I don't look anyone in the audience in the face, just their torso, next to them, or their desk. I haven't done anything big, just reading to a small class a few times for extra credit, and a few solos, and I find that really helps me.

  • @CtDog559
    @CtDog559 12 лет назад

    I've had to make speeches for a club I belong to at school. A couple to pitch a show, and twice to run for a position on the executive board. Every single time I had to get up there, I was terrified. And this is in front of people I love, and am comfortable with. It's something about being judged by all of them at once that gets me flustered. The more I make myself do it, the better and more comfortable I get, still not the best, probably never will be, but I am getting better at it.

  • @dagothursvk
    @dagothursvk 12 лет назад

    Hello from Slovakia Ze, wanted to tell you that i got lost in your videos (in a good way) and i wouldn't mind, if you made a 1hour video once. You're really inspiring and you did light new perspectives onto my own life. Thank you sincerely for that.

  • @SoxHeather
    @SoxHeather 12 лет назад

    I find knowing your material is the best thing you can do. If you know your material inside and out, it's more like having a conversation and they can't trip you up. Know your stuff!

  • @watch-this
    @watch-this 5 лет назад +1

    I miss this RUclips, thanks Ze Frank, for making RUclips what it used to be.

    • @stekflott242
      @stekflott242 4 года назад

      Hi, I used to miss this aswell, then I found his Patreon. Have you been there? It's at patreon.com/truefacts. He has built the nicest community there and has posted a couple really long AMA's that really takes me back. Also some community collaborations :)

  • @malumbomukonde868
    @malumbomukonde868 4 года назад

    Ze Frank is not human and that is what makes him extremely interesting.
    Side note, there is gold content in everything he is saying and it is all topped up with humor.

  • @lunchbox2085
    @lunchbox2085 12 лет назад

    Good job on recommending Spaulding Gray. His spoken word work was amazing.

  • @naturada137
    @naturada137 12 лет назад

    I think overall the most important thing is to be honest. There is a human reason for whatever you're feeling at any time, ever, and having other people understand that reason leads to empathy. Honesty is a cool guy, like, seriously.

  • @KellyOKellyComedy
    @KellyOKellyComedy 12 лет назад

    this is so useful. I'm a stand-up comic. I'd say I fear it less than the average person but everyone gets a bit jittery before a show. Only difference is we DO have to pause after a joke. I so agree with your points at 2:30.

  • @ingletingle6195
    @ingletingle6195 11 лет назад +21

    I wake up everyday. I walk my dog. I feed my fish fish pellets. These things are all distractions though because in the end I will never be Ze Frank. or beyonce

    • @marilynguinnane4663
      @marilynguinnane4663 5 лет назад +1

      ingle tingle --- I don't really have a comment. I just wanted to type your moniker: ingle tingle. :-)

  • @catzbee123
    @catzbee123 11 лет назад

    I really enjoy listening to you talk. It's like fatherly wisdom minus the pretentiousness my father has when he gives me mine. Thanks.

  • @MissMommyMoo
    @MissMommyMoo 12 лет назад

    That was all very good advice... I would add to that to try getting as many public speaking gigs as possible. Practicing in front of an audience not only improves performance, but the more you speak in public, the less likely you are to remember individual screw-ups and focus on them obsessively. As a seasoned public speaker, I no longer get hung up on the moments when I fail because there are so many of those moments, but also so many successes too.

  • @zefsam
    @zefsam 8 лет назад +16

    BLINK!!!!! BLINK!!!! Plz

  • @prussellea
    @prussellea 12 лет назад

    I like it. It's like all that creativity has left its own cubby and is gravitating toward Ze. I imagine it happens when he walks into bookshops and libraries and art galleries too, which is just chaotic.

  • @thenerdfighter2012
    @thenerdfighter2012 12 лет назад

    Coming from a theatre kid who speaks in front of a lot of people, all the time, this is great advice! Good on ya Ze.

  • @velonico
    @velonico 3 года назад

    Wow! So nice to hear your advice, Sir! And "Good on," anyone getting up in front of a crowd... probably did something others don't "Do"... and we'd all like you to confidentiality explain how you "Do..."
    Thank you!

  • @lmariesmith945
    @lmariesmith945 5 лет назад

    1. Everything you said helps 2. You seem like a robot in that you say the perfect stuff all the time (I also LOVE true facts) and you’re wide-eyed when you talk about stuff (I am too, but you make it look cool 😎)

  • @ensign_poo
    @ensign_poo 12 лет назад

    A piece of advice I would give is: When you practice, jump up and down, or brusquely walk on a treadmill. Doing something physical that will get your heart-rate up to simulate the conditions of the future situation can make you feel more comfortable under that stress, when the time comes.

  • @matman16
    @matman16 12 лет назад

    This was a really comprehensive answer with lots of useful tidbits of information. Thanks Ze.

  • @Speppus
    @Speppus Год назад +1

    One of the best things ive ever heard "I don't know what that means but i think you will."

  • @zefrank
    @zefrank  12 лет назад

    9?

  • @MossyMozart
    @MossyMozart Год назад

    Mr Frank is absolutely correct about Spaulding Grey. He was a unique, funny genius. I feel like the world is diminished without him in it. If you can, watch his monologues.

  • @shymickey6
    @shymickey6 5 лет назад +2

    "Say things simply and honestly" is how I do when I talk to people . period.

  • @KittyMortland
    @KittyMortland 12 лет назад

    The bit about having a true emotion is brilliant. I strive for that every time I go on stage.

  • @j9andphoenix
    @j9andphoenix 3 года назад

    Great refererence to the late great Spalding - and I seem to have a fascination with your duck pic...

  • @chappachie4168
    @chappachie4168 11 лет назад +3

    Well this sure saved my life a few times. Thanks

  • @TheAz132
    @TheAz132 11 лет назад

    Public speaking is required one trimester at my school and I got through and done with it, but I wish I would have seen this at the beginning of it. I was just proud of myself that I got through it passing and didn't pass out when I was giving my speeches (although I felt like it every time).

  • @OrisStories
    @OrisStories 11 лет назад +8

    Am I the only one extremely attracted to this guy?

  • @kinsmed
    @kinsmed 3 года назад +1

    And never blink.

  • @AmyDentata
    @AmyDentata 12 лет назад

    I took a public speaking class. We all became friends to the point of disarming the mind-crushing anxiety. Now whenever I speak I think of that class and it gets easier. Even if I'm still anxious, I remember I'll be just fine.

  • @atheistGOP
    @atheistGOP 10 лет назад +11

    christopher lloyd eyeball action

  • @pusho12
    @pusho12 12 лет назад +1

    I'm going to favourite this video just so that I can come back to it when one day I will inevitably have to do another public speaking thing. Awesome advice

  • @eustacia03
    @eustacia03 12 лет назад

    Excellent practical advice! Probably the best I've seen on the subject.

  • @Bhatt_Hole
    @Bhatt_Hole 5 лет назад +2

    He's come a long, long, long way...since these early videos.

  • @Savroge
    @Savroge 11 лет назад

    ive watched this video soooo many times in preparation for my valedictorian speech tomorrow (1200 people... aaaaaaaaughhhh)
    thank you, ze! this helps so much!!

  • @fiveminutefridays
    @fiveminutefridays 12 лет назад

    Ze, you are really really awesome. I'm sure you already knew that but every video just reminds me of that fact.

  • @TheRealWelshCJ
    @TheRealWelshCJ 12 лет назад

    I do public speaking quite often. Not to large groups though - the largest being about 30 people. The first time I was asked to prepare a talk was at university...I spoke so quickly due to nerves I finished it 30% quicker than I had practiced! Now though I am comfortable doing it. Practice makes perfect. But this video had some great suggestions that I will definitely be trying next time!

  • @AndySansone
    @AndySansone 12 лет назад +1

    Useful, funny, well thought out. Thanks Ze!

  • @theregentqueen
    @theregentqueen 12 лет назад

    It really is magic watching someone have real emotion, it catches you off guard in the best way. It's that way watching you. :)

  • @SirIntegra42
    @SirIntegra42 12 лет назад

    I'm going to have to save this for future reference next time I need to talk about my work in front of other people. Public speaking makes me really nervous too so thanks for this.

  • @Brandonious15987
    @Brandonious15987 12 лет назад

    The best advice I can give about public speaking is to do a louse practice speech a few hours before the real one. It also helps if you have cue cards to write down either the main idea or lots of transitions but not both. You should practice both but not write them down so when you do your public speaking everything sounds more fluid. Thats what worked for me anyway.