Having done this to 3 stocks using Rockite here's my differences. First- clean channel (I use brake cleaner)to remove manufacturing lubricants, drill holes in the webbing of the channel. Stay below 1/8" from webbing height. Got enough room- drill more holes, keeping edge distance between holes at least equal to diameter of bit [don't worry about removing rough edges. it adds "bite" for the Rockite]. Score channel bottom by any means available. I pock-marked with a dremel but a good scratching with a sharp nail is as good, just more work. Place stock in a LEVEL and SECURE position, for God's sake spend the $3 on a cheap WallyWorld torpedo level if you don't already have one. But what manly-man doesn't? Mix and pour Rockite into channel bottom, moving container forward and aft. Pour slower as liquid level rises. When level covers top of drilled holes STOP POURING. Lightly rap channel rails with one of your wife's wooden spoons. Strike with handle of spoon while holding spoon head, contacting both sides of rails at same time. Don't beat your stock to death. You're just wanting to send vibrations through it to the Rockite to help it level out. Work quickly but deftly, pouring in more Rockite until level gets to just below webbing height (1/32" - 1/16"). Once flow out is complete walk away and have a beer like a manly-man and swat your ole' lady on her backside to let her know you love her. Next day reassemble the components. The Rockite keeps getting stronger. You'll notice rigidity keeps increasing for a day or two. ***** to deaden the thunk sound of buttstock , mix a high percentage ratio of Perlite to Rockite then add water. Stay below determined depth of butt cap or you'll learn a hard lesson real quick when you go to close up buttstock. Thanks for reading. :-)****
I did a Savage111. Cut a channel and laid a piece of1/4 inch bar stock. Filled with Acraglass. Then sanded the barrel channel until the barrel was free floated. Really stiffened it.
I really like your video, very informative! I just have one question. Once this is set up, what is the texture/feel? From what I’ve seen on line, it says it’s concrete.
Great video. Did you ever go back and bed the action or also stiffen up the butt end of the stock? When dry does it add much weight, I mean to the point you'd notice it if carrying all day long on a hunt? Thanks and God bless.
No I didn’t bed the action. At least not yet anyway. As far as weight goes, I didn’t weigh it before the addition, but I’m betting it’s less than 1/2 pound of additional weight.
Update? Anything extra you had to do after filming? Final dried product? Also... how much weight did this add? I wanna add some weight to the stock for recoil and accuracy. But seems like cement might be on the heavy side. I dont wanna go much over 8lbs if I can avoid it. So I'm really only looking to add a pound or just under. And of course some stiffness. And since you asked for "anything you could do differently" it looks like there was a screw hole that got filled up there. Might stick a q-tip in there just to make finishing process easier. So did you have to sand it?
John Dough It did stiffen a good bit. I honestly couldn’t tell a lot of difference in the weight. I didn’t need to sand anything. You won’t be able to see any of it and the roughness won’t effect anything. It actual could’ve been a little stiffer. If you want to pour more and then sand the barrel to fit, I’m sure you could add a few more ounces. In my opinion, it wouldn’t be worth the time
I like the gun with the stock just the way it came from Savage, if the barrel is free floating and not touching the stock then I don't see how adding concrete to the stock will improve accuracy at all.
Put your fingers on the barrel and your thumb on the stock and squeeze. See the stock flex? Now imagine you're loading a bipod (adding forward pressure to mitigate recoil). Your stock could be touching the barrel and affecting accuracy. Doing this will make the forend much more rigid.
I have carried the gun for a couple years or more now, without any noticeable change in reliability of the rockite. (I haven’t pulled the stock off since, to check for separation). It feels as stiff as it did 3 days after completion. I did not do a pre and post shot group to compare. My rifle is chambered in 280 Ack Impoved, so it’s def built for a longer ranged shot, but I haven’t stretched the rifle out enough to find out…yet. I plan on a northern hunt or Midwest hunt in the next couple years, to stretch its abilities out.
I have not experienced any degradation in the material. It doesn’t necessarily “bond” to plastic, but it will seat very well and stiffen the stock much more than it comes factory.
Don’t be afraid to try something. U can buy those stocks pretty cheap. If u have a problem with the stiffness, don’t be afraid to try something to stiffen it
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Having done this to 3 stocks using Rockite here's my differences. First- clean channel (I use brake cleaner)to remove manufacturing lubricants, drill holes in the webbing of the channel. Stay below 1/8" from webbing height. Got enough room- drill more holes, keeping edge distance between holes at least equal to diameter of bit [don't worry about removing rough edges. it adds "bite" for the Rockite]. Score channel bottom by any means available. I pock-marked with a dremel but a good scratching with a sharp nail is as good, just more work.
Place stock in a LEVEL and SECURE position, for God's sake spend the $3 on a cheap WallyWorld torpedo level if you don't already have one. But what manly-man doesn't? Mix and pour Rockite into channel bottom, moving container forward and aft. Pour slower as liquid level rises. When level covers top of drilled holes STOP POURING. Lightly rap channel rails with one of your wife's wooden spoons. Strike with handle of spoon while holding spoon head, contacting both sides of rails at same time. Don't beat your stock to death. You're just wanting to send vibrations through it to the Rockite to help it level out. Work quickly but deftly, pouring in more Rockite until level gets to just below webbing height (1/32" - 1/16"). Once flow out is complete walk away and have a beer like a manly-man and swat your ole' lady on her backside to let her know you love her.
Next day reassemble the components. The Rockite keeps getting stronger. You'll notice rigidity keeps increasing for a day or two.
***** to deaden the thunk sound of buttstock , mix a high percentage ratio of Perlite to Rockite then add water. Stay below determined depth of butt cap or you'll learn a hard lesson real quick when you go to close up buttstock. Thanks for reading. :-)****
Sounds like a wiseman has spoken.
I used Rockite to stiffen the forend on a Savage MKII FV-SR 22LR. It definitely did the job and tightened up my groups.
Good video my brother in Christ! Love your prayer box 🙏🏼
Well done Sir, it’ll help when you add the bipod too . Did mine and the gain in accuracy was unbelievable. Thanks for sharing.
Ray Samaroo
Thank u sir for watching
The use of the kid blocks is clutch.
Right lol!!
Thanks my man. keep kicking butt.
Drilling straight holes in the inner walls would have strengthened this stock a little more and helps keep things leveled.
I did a Savage111. Cut a channel and laid a piece of1/4 inch bar stock. Filled with Acraglass. Then sanded the barrel channel until the barrel was free floated. Really stiffened it.
That sounds awesome!! I’m sure it worked well too!!
Time to invest in a vise and a garage to hold it. Good job!
I really like your video, very informative! I just have one question. Once this is set up, what is the texture/feel? From what I’ve seen on line, it says it’s concrete.
It depends on how thick u mix it. If u do it very dry, it will have a rougher texture. I mixed mine very thin, which gives a very smooth finish
@@philipbrown3964 that’s what I want, more of a smooth feel. I went out and bought some today, about to bite the bullet. No pun intended… 😂
Great video. Did you ever go back and bed the action or also stiffen up the butt end of the stock? When dry does it add much weight, I mean to the point you'd notice it if carrying all day long on a hunt? Thanks and God bless.
No I didn’t bed the action. At least not yet anyway. As far as weight goes, I didn’t weigh it before the addition, but I’m betting it’s less than 1/2 pound of additional weight.
@@philipbrown3964 did you do any drilling in the baffles?
@@Wildwestwrangler
No I didn’t. There really couldn’t have been enough material to take out to make a difference
Just a question. Do you really need to do this with the newer Axis stocks? Just wondering.
Update? Anything extra you had to do after filming? Final dried product?
Also... how much weight did this add? I wanna add some weight to the stock for recoil and accuracy. But seems like cement might be on the heavy side. I dont wanna go much over 8lbs if I can avoid it. So I'm really only looking to add a pound or just under. And of course some stiffness.
And since you asked for "anything you could do differently" it looks like there was a screw hole that got filled up there. Might stick a q-tip in there just to make finishing process easier.
So did you have to sand it?
John Dough
It did stiffen a good bit. I honestly couldn’t tell a lot of difference in the weight. I didn’t need to sand anything. You won’t be able to see any of it and the roughness won’t effect anything. It actual could’ve been a little stiffer. If you want to pour more and then sand the barrel to fit, I’m sure you could add a few more ounces. In my opinion, it wouldn’t be worth the time
I like the gun with the stock just the way it came from Savage, if the barrel is free floating and not touching the stock then I don't see how adding concrete to the stock will improve accuracy at all.
Put your fingers on the barrel and your thumb on the stock and squeeze. See the stock flex? Now imagine you're loading a bipod (adding forward pressure to mitigate recoil). Your stock could be touching the barrel and affecting accuracy. Doing this will make the forend much more rigid.
Are those batteries in some kind of liquid?
Haha no. They are in a candle
@@philipbrown3964 I've never seen Duracell candles before.
Did you end up noticing any accuracy improvements? Has it held up after several years and how much was the stiffness improved?
I have carried the gun for a couple years or more now, without any noticeable change in reliability of the rockite. (I haven’t pulled the stock off since, to check for separation). It feels as stiff as it did 3 days after completion. I did not do a pre and post shot group to compare. My rifle is chambered in 280 Ack Impoved, so it’s def built for a longer ranged shot, but I haven’t stretched the rifle out enough to find out…yet. I plan on a northern hunt or Midwest hunt in the next couple years, to stretch its abilities out.
@@philipbrown3964Magpul Stock upgrade in the future? I love my Magpul Hunter Lite for sure 😁
Nice looking work Brother. I’d like to see an after video just to see how it came out. A buddy of mine told me about your video, two 👍👍 up.
Rooster Currie
I will add one just for u, so u can see the results
Looks like you could get by with half that much
Why Rocktite instead of epoxy resin?
It’s just an option. An epoxy would work as well. I’m not sure about the weight comparison, but epoxy would stiffen the stock as well
Does it become brittle? Does it bond to plastic?
I have not experienced any degradation in the material. It doesn’t necessarily “bond” to plastic, but it will seat very well and stiffen the stock much more than it comes factory.
Using your fiaaingar is the best wat to clean.
Why not just buy a boyds stock
This is a $5 fix, Vs the cost of a new stock
Thats crazy..... I would mess up my rifle. :P
Don’t be afraid to try something. U can buy those stocks pretty cheap. If u have a problem with the stiffness, don’t be afraid to try something to stiffen it