My Attempt at Bark Grafting - Building Better Apple Trees | Dream Farm w/ Bill Winke
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- Опубликовано: 19 мар 2024
- Bark grafting is the method by which you attach a cutting from a tree you really like to an established apple tree that produces less desirable fruit. I am far from the expert on this, but I have hundreds (maybe thousands) of wild trees on which to experiment. I use this method to graft commercially grown apple tree cuttings (called scion wood) from Enterprise, Gold Rush, Honey Crisp, Fuji, Arkansas Black and Hawkeye varieties to my wild apple trees. The goal is to create trees that produce better tasting apples for human consumption. The deer seem very satisfied eating the wild apples, so it is more about adapting some of these many trees for our use. I believe I have converted about 20 trees so far. I will know soon enough whether this worked. Maybe I will be selling apples some day!
It works, my dad was a professional at this, we would get two or three different types of fruits on the same tree and he did it to all of our trees. You did everything the right way.
Very cool to see you give this a try, you have all those little trees, might as well give it a try. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, good luck!
That's the way we looked at it. The scion wood is pretty cheap, all things considered. And we have maybe thousands of these little wild trees, so it might end up being a really cool thing if we can get it figured out. Thanks for the comment.
Come on Bill this was Grafting 101 with Bill Winke 👍 not any different than the rest of us hunters that don’t know what we’re doing 🙂 I fully appreciated this one. Thanks Bill and Jordan. If you’re not failing you’re not learning.
I hear you. I have failed enough and I keep coming back for more so eventually I should be learning! Have a great day and thanks for the comment.
Loves these fruit tree episodes!!!
Thanks Jarrod. I appreciate the comment.
I will try it myself.. Keep us updated on your progress..Thanks for the try..
I should know in a couple of weeks if this works (when the sap really starts flowing).
Very interesting. Can’t wait to see the results.
Thanks for the comment. Me too - should be interesting.
It looks perfect
Thanks for the comment, Steve. Much appreciated.
Love it ,keep em coming 😊
Thanks for the comment. Have a great day.
Hey Bill...sure glad you did this...was hoping to see this type of grafting!! Keep us posted.
I will. We should know something in a few weeks. Have a great day.
Thanks bill for another interesting video I hope it all turns out.
Thanks Steve. I am looking forward to seeing if this works. Have a great day.
You guys are hilarious. Thanks for the laugh
Hopefully despite my incompetence, this will still work! Thanks for the comment.
Makes me want to try it! Very cool!! Cant wait to see the follow up on how they did!
I should know more in a few weeks as the sap starts to flow more.
Grandpa used some kind of, "grafting tar" his words. I wish I hadn't have been such a dumb kid. I could have paid attention and learn these things from someone who, in my eyes was an expert. He would graft two or three inch long pieces with one bud. And if my memory serves he was always successful. Fun video thank you
Its a great idea. I was thinking of doing the same. Now I can see if it works first for you..
Yes for sure. My method has evolved a bit from that first tree. I have done maybe 30 trees now and I use the electric tape to firmly hold the graft together and then spray the sealer on it. That seems to produce a very tight, clean bond with less time. I will know in a few weeks (when the sap really starts flowing) if this works.
Morin Bill! Hey bud did you ever do a vol2 for the ridges & benches? Have a good one thanks!
Awesome!! Please keep us informed of how the grafts go!! I just did some plum grafts earlier today!
Will do. Thanks for the comment and good luck on the grafts.
Looks like a new side hustle for you. 😃
That's what we are thinking. As a minimum we should be selling cuttings from these super disease resistant wild trees for others to graft to get the same disease resistance. Have a great day.
Well, this is an interesting project. Hope it goes well and we get some updates. Did something very similar when I was a kid and learned about grafting in science class and it worked well.
Thanks Takur. I will show everyone what we learn. Have a great day.
Looking forward to the end results.
Me too Mitchell. We will know something in a few weeks. Have a great day.
Nice work Bill. This should work. It looks like the bark was slipping when you cut the inlays (a good thing - it means sap is flowing well). It may be a little early to be grafting - I learned the hard way that it's better to graft a little late (as leaf-out is just underway) than too early (when a hard freeze seems to kill my grafts). You may consider keeping some scion wood in fridge wrapped in plastic wrap and bring out for more grafting once the apple blossoms buds start to swell. A couple other things I like to do - I avoid skin contact with the exposed cambium and cuts (our skin oil can interfere with the grafts), and I apply a sealant or grafting wax to the exposed wood on the top of the scions. I'm quite confident that you will have a bunch of success with your approach - the above are just things I do to try and optimise graft success. Looking forward to the updates on your channel! Fun projects!
All very good advice. I did about 100+ grafts and my method got a bit more refined. I would also soak the grafting end of the cut scion in my mouth so it was clean and moist. I also got better at securing the grafted pieces on the tree with electrical tape and then spraying the sealer. I got away from the plastic wrap that way. I will check in a week or so to be sure the sealant is working. But I didn't seal the open ends. I should have done that but I am guessing they dried out and kind of sealed off on their own. I will seal those in the future.
@@bill-winke - Nice! Yes - they will seal off on their own. You have 2 to 3 buds on each scion anyways, so worst case the top of the graft dries out and might lose the top bud but the others will be ok. Your successful grafts may hold fruit as early as 2025 fall so lots to look forward to.
Thanks. I appreciate the comment.
Bill, if you hold you knife upside down at the length of the cut you want and just push a bit will go in nice and easy and be a lot safer. Then just twist your knife and the bark will pop right open. If you’re using electrical tape just make sure you slit it open after healed up, it’s too strong for the tree to break it open.
I did arrive at that method a few grafts in. I am starting to get the knack for it. Good tip on the tape. I will peel it off this summer. Thanks.
Dream Big brother 🙏
Thanks Edward. You too.
I was waiting for this episode. Really cool man. I know where a couple trees are im going to try this on.
I’m betting that it will work😂 great video to watch!
Thanks for the vote a confidence. We will know in a few weeks! Have a great day.
Awesome! I planted about 20 apple trees just over 20 years ago and I'm going to try grafting some of my better varieties onto some of my less desirable apple trees. I will let you know how it goes with an update. Apple trees are a lot of work and I have a spray schedule that I have developed over the years where I spray 3x per season. Last year was a bumper crop!
Michael, I do like the fact that these wild trees don't need any maintenance. The apples aren't awesome - a few trees are OK, but they are 100% hands off. These new grafted trees will need more maintenance, I fear, but they will produce better tasting apples too. Have a great day and thanks for the comment.
Bill and Jordan Comedy Show! LOL
We do enjoy our time together. Have a great day.
Interesting! Hope it works for you. I see some burning on instagram! Can’t wait for that video
I survived. That's the main thing!
Been tempted to try this versus buying trees. Have 30 fruit trees apples pears and few peaches. Pears are what deer love the most
Interesting. This farm has no pears, but the one we had in southern Iowa had a few and the deer did hammer them. It is funny watching a deer try to eat a whole pear! Have a great day.
@@bill-winke my kieffer pears have fruit into January good late season food. Is a cooking pear
I’m going to go bonkers with pear scions on all of the garbage Bradford/Callery pears that are about to become useful root stock. This video was a great share. Thanks Jordan, Bill and the Stinky Bros
You can also graft right into the side of a big branch without actually cutting it off. I did some of that too. It was simpler and cleaner than the grafts on the cut off branches.
Unfortunately, I had to bury one of the Stinky Brothers today. Duke died of cancer. Well actually I had him put to sleep when it was obvious that he wasn't going to recover.
@@bill-winkeI'm sorry to hear that!
I have taught myself through trial and error i pretty much settled on wood glue to seal up cuts after i wrap em with some plastic tape it does the trick and i have wood glue around good luck you will definitely get some sucess its really neat i have grafted apple to wild mulberry or atleast i think thats what it was they grow great but have not fruit vet so idk about it but it definitely grows on the root stock of white mulberry or wild mulberry idk think thats what it is
Frank, thanks. I am not sure how well you can cross graft. I have heard you can graft some kinds of pears on some apple trees, but not all. That is one I would like to try in the future. Good luck.
Very interesting video , hopefully an after video in 2 months
Definitely an update in the early summer. Have a great day.
Two points buy a grafting knife for about $25 and leave one limb on your tree to feed the tree for your first growing season .Graft that limb next year .I use a staple gun like you might use on a shooting range for making the bark hold tight to the scion .I have done lots of bark grafting onto seedling fruit trees that did not produce fruit large enough for deer .It needs to be heavy enough to drop and not just feed tweety birds .
Interesting. I am looking forward to seeing how these turn out. I ended up grafting probably 100 cuttings onto about 30 different trees, so it will be interesting to compare results depending on tree size and method. Have a great day and thanks for the comment.
Giving me anxiety attacks over here!😂 If you don't mind me giving you a few tips, cut and peel the bark, less deep than your Scion will be inserted before cutting the Scion and move fast because your fresh cuts dry quickly. Then use your electrical tape and wrap it super tight. Then finish with your grafting paste or your fancy aerosol spray can you have. I use multiple grafting methods and bark grafting yields my highest success rate.
I started to "keep" my scion cuttings in my mouth while cutting the bark and peeling it on the host tree. I then slid the scion in while it was still wet with saliva. Then as you say, I taped it tight and sprayed the sealer on it, skipping the plastic wrap step. I guess the only question now is whether saliva carries anything detrimental (I have seen this done often) and whether these cold temps we are getting now will do something to freeze off the scion. I am still learning for sure, but I did about 30 trees so I should learn a some things in a few weeks when the weather breaks for good. Thanks for the tips. I appreciate the comment.
That should work. I’ve always used cleft grafting with really good success. If I can do it, anybody can. Trust me.
I like that vote of confidence. Thanks for the comment.
Hey bill I watch all your videos and take in as much information as possible, just watched the video where you took your brother in law scouting, any update on him and if he got a deer or not and did he stick with it??? Keep the videos coming !
He did. His first season he shot a fawn. His second season he shot a six pointer so he is still at it! Thanks for all the support.
I would have waited till early may late April for topworking trees.
Although could have really good results depending on weather obviously
Hopefully this works. The warm weather had the trees ahead and the buds were just starting to swell as if to open soon. I will try a few later grafts as I have some scions remaining. Thanks for the comment. Have a great day.
This is a very interesting concept, genius if it works! You really have the gears spinning....can you bark graft different scion wood species on the same tree?!
Different varieties of apples on one tree but not other fruit. So, you can have a tree, potentially, that produces more than one variety of apples.
@@bill-winke very cool!! Look forward to an apple tree update!
Could you graft onto wild bradford pear trees? I seem to see those alot.
It is my understanding that you can graft good productive commercial pear cuttings to Bradford pear branches and trunks. I have not done anything like this, but my little research says this is a common practice. I don't think, however, that you can graft apple cuttings to that tree. Good luck.
Bill id like to see how these turn out. Will be grafting liberty apples to crab apple root systems this weekend. I’m a beginner as well. Hope it works. Where did you get the scionwood?
Dan
It is pretty fun. Got mine from Cummins Nursery and Turkey Creek Trees. I think I probably went through 60 scion "whips" grafted into about 30 different trees. It will be interesting to see how they do.
I wonder if you could put pairs on an apple stem
I have read that it can be done under certain conditions, but I am not sure how effective it is to just randomly do it. Worth more research though.
Johnny Appleseed 😂😊
Now we're talking.
You and your daughter act like me and mine. Haha
Then you must be enjoying her company as enjoy spending time with Jordan. Have a great day.
apples work great where apple rust is not a problem . pears work well where apple rust is a problem.
Supposedly, the Enterprise is more tolerant than most. An expert in commercial and recreational apple trees (Chris at Turkey Creek Trees: www.turkeycreektrees.com/) also recommends Hawkeye, Arkansas Black and Gallarina. He sent me cuttings from those varieties also to graft. I now have at least 30 trees grafted with various scion wood to see what works. If you are interested in very disease resistant apple trees, you might give Chris a call.
Bark grafting also called topworking as opposed to bench grafting a scion to a rootstock
Thanks for the comment. Have a great day.
No blood and 10 fingers, I'd call that a success
There was a little blood. I just didn't show it. But still have all the fingers!
What is the purpose of this? Honest question..?
Why not just plant the tree species you want?
I can get those cuttings very cheap and get much faster growth from the cuttings grafted on the established root system.
@@bill-winkebut aren’t the trees you’re grafting them onto already established/growing apple trees?