Could anyone of you explain what are the terrible mistakes you found in these sentences? To be honest with you I find that some of the words could be different and make the sentences more appealing to read, but none of them seem to have dramatic errors in grammar or include any inappropriate words. Even if they did, why would it be so important? Not all people have English as their native language
Puro as a twelve year old I can tell you it’s because of kids being overtested and overloaded with busy work. It demotivates people my age and forces them to associate learning with 3 solid months of standardized testing, which isn’t good.
Thats style make him look special rather than just played the pianos without eye contact with audience... actually he is very good to play that instruments
As a violinist (unfortunately for me, ex) I am trained to hear so many nuances of the same note. So yes, I do hear difference. Not just out of tune, but richness in harmonics and timbre.
i hear a difference too.. but for me, its not a 20k difference.. with a digital piano you are 97% there in my opinion. depending on the speakers you hook up.
I agree.. I too hear the difference. The workmanship put into instruments are very worth it. Basically we should buy what we can afford. Digital can never replace the sound of a well made piano but if that is your budget it works until you can afford better.
As others have said, digital pianos have improved greatly over the last years. The sound from a digital piano depends on the speakers. Often they have little tiny speakers built in, but if hooked up to better speakers sound so much better. Nothing compares to the sensitivity of a quality acoustic piano. Digitals have their place but if you can afford a good piano and keep it tuned, it is much superior.
@@theadventureinsider The video and resulting discussion was only about the sound. Very expensive digitals have very-close up to nearly-identical piano actions, though.
@@theadventureinsider Have you tried a digital piano with a progressive hammer action keyboard? They can be very realistic. Midi controllers and synths don't usually have this feature because they're not trying to imitate the feel of a piano.
The nice thing about a digital piano is you never have to tune it (nothing sounds worse than an out-of-tune instrument). You don't have to worry about sticky keys, improper voicing, cracked soundboards and broken strings. Digital pianos are much lighter than regular pianos and easier to move. They don't take up much space. You can get one with an attractive looking cabinet. You can also turn the volume down (for neighbors or family members who don't want to hear you practicing) and you can use headphones. And the price is right. Just make sure your digital has all 88 keys and attached pedals.
@@juanatayeb8236 I think it's an old portable digital grand piano. Maybe models from DGX or YPG Yamaha family. And I see he record the audio with a smal digital recorder, in the middle of the keyboard, in the top of the upright and inside the baby grand close of the strings.
If you stand in the room, you can actually feel the acoustics from the real piano. Sometimes you’ll get goosebumps from the harmonics opposed to digital.
I closest I've experienced a digital get to an acoustic would be a Nord Stage three using KRK Rokit 8 g4 studio monitors. The best sounding keyboard I've ever witnessed. Can't wait for the Stage 4! As for acoustic, I've also been around a Steinway and Sons 9 and a half foot long concert grand and that is still the best sounding piano I have ever heard. The Yamaha C7 being right up there with it. Never heard a Bosendorfer in person but I've heard they are far better than a Steinway and have better touch as well. I guess I'll get my own opinion when I get to be around one one day.
Dude honestly I want to learn piano so bad. The only thing is I don't know any Music Theorie. I mean I could learn it and I want to, but I dont know if my motivation is holding. I know many ppl say u can learn it without any music theory, but is this really true?
@@zdvrk9813, I just started my piano (keyboard) journey today. There are a bunch of awesome beginner videos on youtube just learn the notes as you go...baby steps. There are easy to understand music theory videos, that are great at explaining the notes and how to read them. Just learn both at once. You will suck at both at first but as I know from practicing my drums put in 1/2 hour per day and you WILL learn and improve every day. I've been learning drums for 6 weeks now and am only just getting into reading the music. Don't let not knowing how to read music hold you back, just go for it!!
@@charlottesmom Aww man, thanks for the great advise I really apperciate it. I honestly going to get a keyboard the next time. Noone can hold me back :D
RangedCreativity they have more distinct sounds with better pianists my dude. Its hella fuckin easy to tell the difference between a keyboard and a grand piano to a point where the music is significantly better quality. When a good pianist uses a piano, they are able to bring all of its features under the light, while keyboard lack literally everything unique about manipulating the sound from a piano with crescendos, accents, and especially 100 and 10% the pedals, since you can't recreate their function on a 70$ keyboard
Ayush Kumar and if you're gonna be cheap with music then there's really no backbone to your music in the first place, and your music will just be cheap in the end as well.
Sure, nothing digital will beat an actual piano. But those that have a digital piano and samples sound libraries use the sounds for other purposes and not striving for the pure piano sounds. I have a multitude of sampled piano sounds and use them in my music tracks. As some others say, they never go out of tune, they are portable, and usually throw various effects on top of the raw sampled sounds. Not planning to be a concert pianist, but do it for the fun of creating music for myself.
If your digital piano sound can't beat real piano, that means : -> you've bought the wrong digital piano -> you've set it up the wrong way. -> you've never use high quality VST. -> you've never put headphones/set the speaker properly. [ digital keyboard + Good VST + headphone/speaker ] already surpass real med-high end piano.
Well the thing is, if you just play beginner or medium difficulty pieces, you will hardly hear any difference. But with pieces that really go heavy on pedal and everything, a cheap piano will just fail to make it sound good. Just look up animenz's Unravel
The most you really need to spend on a key board is 800$ a d you'll get the exact same sound as a piano plus since it's a keyboard it has alot of other setting and sounds you can mess with.
The surprise is how darned good the electric pianos sound. They have come such a long way since the 1980's. In the first acoustic upright you played, there is a whisper-slight "detuned" effect that adds so much warmth and personality. I spent years as a professional pianist, and really, I got to where I just preferred to use a digital piano on a live gig... so there'd never be any "surprises" regarding the tuning! On your baby grand, there is also that whisper-slight detuning,-- a certain "variety" between the keys-- but it has a lovely bell-like "singing" quality that the electrics do not have. You also reveal how pianissimi are much more compelling and delicate on this piano than the others. At Nordstrom I used to play a full concert 9-foot grand... and yes, that is the "Maserati" of pianos... The bass keys have monstrous, thumping power and enveloping tone, and I admit, I loved that. The keys on a piano like this have different actions, as we know... the bass keys being almost like firm levers that unleash the thunder, while the treble keys sing with a light touch. I think some digital pianos have sought to simulate that varied action across the 88 keys... Again, for 90% of your performance purposes, a modern digital piano simply cannot be beat. Bonus points if your digital has a MIDI OUT that you can connect to your computer for synth sequencing... Magic!
@@leoscareer It's when you play an electronic keyboard, and it sends note information out to your computer using MIDI technology; a special software records the note information, just as you played it.
Biggest clear difference IMO is that you can *hear* the digital ones are coming out of speakers. Acoustic pianos play with the room's resonance and reverb.
and the speakers need to be placed relative to the keys ... woofer at the left wit the lower pitched keys, the mid-range speaker in the middle with the medium pitched keys and tweeter at the right with the higher pitched keys ... and the more speakers you use, the better you can have the notes positioned.
@@CraigScottFrost prenom nom Speakers have a beaming disperison characteristic. 30 degrees off axis and you will have a loss of high frequencies and on 60 degrees at least -10db treble loss and even midrange loss. So the ceiling gets everything and the walls much less. A mechanical piano will excite the room resounances very differently. Also keep in mind the speakers in a cheap digital piano will not do much beyond 100hz and 10khz and the plastic case will add resonances. So... can a digital piano (with hi-fi speakers) and a mechanical piano sound the same in an anechoic camber? Maybe. But in a normal room? Never.
It's called separation. Different source gives different behaviour. Digital is from speaker then interact with air where acoustic is straight from string with construction design
its about how the keys feel too. Regular wood made piano keys are bouncy, that bounciness makes it easier to play. Keyboards usually don’t have bouncy keys
That is to give perspective on comparable value for people who don't live in the USA. Such as Eastern Europe, middle East, Africa, south America. Etc. Keep in mind the INTERNATIONAL AUDIENCE who may not know what a us dollar can buy. 😐
Well some of us don't know dollars and pay for everything in wheels. So this comparison was very helpful to us. I bet you three wheels you're feeling guilty about your post now.
I’m not a pianist, though I’m looking to get into it. However, I hear that the upright acoustic pianos produce more of a velvety sound and are much more smooth when between changing keys. The notes also overlap and linger longer when pressed-producing beautiful blends of notes that make up the piece. Overall acoustic uprights offer the listener a more pleasurable experience than digital pianos, in my humble opinion.
You are not a pianist and you have summed up the whole matter. It could not be more accurate. No digital piano is capable of reproducing these effects that you describe. If one day you start the piano, promise me to do it on an acoustic piano. From a modest pianist
@@Bobbylim323 Love the username. But yeah, I can play songs on an actual piano that just don't work on a digital. I would have to practice differently to play on digital.
The only instrument he didn't play was a digital grand piano (Yamaha Clavinova, Roland GP's, etc.). They are amazing - multiple speakers arranged literally in 3 dimensions, acoustically modeled sympathetic string vibration, the ability to change timbre depending on the acoustics of the room that they're played in, etc.
Hey, any cheap keyboard under 100$? I'm a broke college student who always wanted to get one but struggled financially, so for now I just want to learn .
Thanks for the posting and discussion. What is forgotten in all this is that you are listening to an electronic piano through speakers or headphones compared to a real piano also heard through speakers or headphones. Tough to tell the difference sometimes and depending on the microphone arrangements, the sound of a digital piano will often outshine the sound of the acoustic piano . A true comparison though, is to be in a room listening to the acoustic sound of a real piano and comparing that to the sound of an amplified or digital piano. However good the digitised piano or the loudspeaker system, most people would easily tell the difference. I know which I would prefer to listen to.
I think it's more a case of a uniform comparison set being better to understand than a disparate comparison set. (EG: "Virtual is wheel, Digital is orange and grand is Rubik's? What's the connection?")
Ashish Ji It’s called gesturing and body language.. Like “Now pay attention, now something is coming”. Interpreting non-verbal language is getting difficult for the newer generations.. Must be because they are only on their phones all day.
Give me the world's most expensive piano and I can make it sound like the cheapest thrash . Give Vinhetro a cheap instrument and he makes it sound wonderful.
For me that digital piano sound trash, you should see latest digital pianos that cost $1.5k. Those $1.5k digital pianos sound like famous grand pianos (I am waiting for my Kawai CN39, I don't want to spend like $80k, but I can play it because famous Kawai's is sound sampled on high end Kawai's).
Thank you for this. With an acoustic it seemed to me the music was more layered, maybe because the physical strings interact with each other when played together, even across a range of notes.
Regardless of what piano type instrument to buy for yourself or children to learn how to play, learning the correct way to play it as intended, getting the timing and speed all together, you will be forever glad you did. We had a Steinway grand piano that I learned on and the music store had an upright, there are major differences in the sound quality and in the touch of the keyboards, both were beautiful instruments. I bought several keyboards over the years since then and enjoyed all of them, so, parents, do yourself a big favor when thinking about your kids, ASK them what they would prefer to play, though I enjoyed the piano, I told my mom well in my 40s that I really wanted to play guitar.
My son has a touch sensitive keyboard for his small apartment and playing for bands. Now he has a very nice house with lots of room for his very nice used 6 foot Grand Piano. Sounds so nice and fills house beautiful sound. Great for my Grandkids. What ever floats your Boat and needs. Thanks
@@sebastianmfb7233 If you find the right bar and develop the right shtick, you can get lots of tips and if the place has a kitchen they might feed you too.
A really nice demonstration. Although the software piano pales in comparison to the real thing, they've been steadily getting better over the years, and they have the nice feature that they don't go out of tune. Someday, there probably will be electronic pianos used in concerts. It will be as shocking as fine wine in a bottle with no cork, just a twist-off cap.
Ohhh my god!!! U replied to my comment!! This can be the best day of my life!! Sir i also play keyboard and you are an inspiration for me you are an idol for me and it means a lot to me that you replied to my comment
Yes, It's obvious that the digital one has a very synthetic and stiff sound while the accoustic one has a soft, and clear sound with a deeper vibration
Wow! The baby grand and the upright still sound good BUT , the digital had a really nice lower end tone too . Very suprised and impressed ! I’ll still always love the upright
there is obviously a difference between the pianos (perhaps to a non-musician there may be little to no difference)... and in person or a studio recording, there is even more of a difference... but a digital piano is fine for 99% of the people out there. unless you are a professional (or just have a ton of disposable income), there is no need to spend 1000's or 10,000's on a piano when you are just playing for fun or learning. I see so many spend a small fortune and it ends up sitting there unused a few years later. unless you plan on playing for a living or at a very high level, buy a digital piano or a cheaper acoustic... a better piano wont make you an expert player... but an expert can make a great piano sound even better.
Justin I would disagree there I think that investing ina decent piano 3-6k(aud) is defiantly worth it unless you want the features of a digital piano or you don’t want everyone here you play or practice
BulletProof Tomato Spending 3-6k on something is a lot of money, and an acoustic piano probably won't make you better than that you would playing on a digital one. I would probably always start buying a digital one first, simply for practice and getting into playing it. If I would find myself enjoying it a lot and playing like everyday, I would only then probably start considering getting a more expensive acoustic one
Justin I've been playing the piano for 18 years, and over that time I've literally played thousands of pianos, keyboards, stage and digital pianos, and I'll say this, I have a 250 watt ibanez bass amp($345) and a Yamaha ypt 300 that I regularly gig with that I would put up against ANY professional quality arranger as far as piano sound goes, you don't need a high-end or even mid-range keyboard for authentic, deep and Rich piano sound quality, all you need is the right type of amplification, like I said before, Ibanez is what I regularly use, but a David Eden preamp with a hartke cabinet will REALLY make a cheap keyboard shine, hell, it'll even make a Casio 61 key keyboard sound like a tolerable Yamaha Keyboard, but that eden/hartke combo is out of my price range, but Ibanez definitely gets the job done
The .45 Caliber Wizard exactly, you can make a keyboard sound just as good if not better than your average acoustic piano. Plus you get the added benefit of portability. Try getting a full sized piano into the top floor of an apartment with no elevator.. you’ll never want to work an acoustic piano ever again lol
Over youtube the differences are not too big I must say. But if you stand right next to the real pianos, this is a completely different feeling. And they are absolutely amazing things, so much detail, so much craftsmanship. They are works of art. But I love my synths ^^
I wasn't being serious about size matters--I actually threw out the larger speakers I had because they had not the quality of sound of these Bose. I've misplaced my good headphones.
Wow, what a difference! I love the depth of the grand piano and the crisp sounds without the echo of the cheaper models. Those sounded, depending on the model, like music out of a can. Very nice comparison, I love it!
Yeah the digital one sounds so harsh; I couldn't listen long to it. I'm not very fond of my very linear sounding high-end speakers, but on this channel I notice that good piano music is their absolute strength.
Gralyn Stiehl I dont understand clearly what preset select on digital - for piano or for grand piano? How i can compare scene by headphones and you tube:)?
101picofarad um. He probably went with a grand preset and possibly had some sort of mixverb effect added. Possibly his keyboard gives him that option. Or its a super good digital. It had a roomy sound that was nice
Actually, you can get a nice, used upright or honky-tonk for free on Craigs List. You just have to be willing to move that two-ton behemoth and then have it tuned.
You made me decide to follow my dream and become a pianist, its something I always wanted to do since I was a kid but never had the chance to until now. Thank you.
There are lots of musicians who happen to be car enthusiasts. I'm a prime example of one. I play guitar and piano and I bought my first car which was a 53 belair 215 straight six three on tree for 1700 U.S. dollars.
Random Stuff it’s not as easy as it sounds. Starting playing seems a bit easier but if you want to play a song you will need to practice it and learn the correct fingerings.
Acoustic pianos (even the cheap one) have something I would describe as resonance that no digital piano have I ever heard recreate. The notes feel like they have more substance as the vibrations of each individual note alter all the others while being altered by them.
It's just a matter of using professional samples. I use a masterkeyboard with weighted wooden keys $1.2k and 50GB worth of samples (4 different pianos) with authoring software about $2k. And zero latency sound card $250. Also important are professional JBL monitor speakers tuned to the piano frequency $500 for just the pair of speakers without any amp. Most people expect a digital piano to perform like a real piano. In reality most if not all digital pianos will be fitted with the cheapest possible mono speakers worth $10.... The second most important are the samples.... even Professional Senheiser Headphones won't sound good if the samples are quantized, flat and output to a 16k mono signal. I would always recommend to avoid buying the "complete package" when trying to go for the digital experience. Always choose a masterkeyboard without any samples and buy the samples/modules separately. It will 100% sound better but most people prefer the complete package for practicality and manufacturers know that. The gap between even the top tier digital e-pianos and what you can do with professional sample packages on a computer is very very very big.
@@picketf Which sounds to me only worth doing if you need such professionally either for portability or because you are creating music in the computer and what you describe is easier than building your own sound proof studio with an acoustic piano in it.
@@darthhodges My point was: E-piano's will always sound worse because the cheaper you build them the more profitable the business. So it's always a race to put out the smallest increment of upgrades on decades old framework. People choose to spend 10k on high end e-pianos rather than research a good sample creator that uses an array of directional microphones in the worlds best sounding concert halls and grand piano's for their library. If you buy instrument and samples separately you will always get the better deal. I would recommend a pro masterkeyboard (like Kawai VPC1)/samples/computer gear package over a real piano to everyone unless you are talking about a second hand instrument.
I noticed that too, even listening to it through crappy computer speakers. Another factor is that your digital piano has some square inches of sound producing surface in the speakers at each end. An upright acoustic piano has square feet of soundboard, with some of the sound coming through the front of the instrument and the rest coming off the back and bouncing off the wall. Through a big P.A. of course, the digital piano would come a lot closer to matching what the acoustic one does.
Try kawaii digital pianos. They have the resonance that only an acoustic piano has... I m sure other digital pianos have the same thing but i ve heard it only from kawaii
the acoustic sounds better, but if you compare the price, its not worth to spent like 400 more to upgrade the sound from 8 to 10. Because in modern time, we have things can make any instruments sounds better. to be honest, the music is for listening, if you feel it's good, nothing else matter. But if you have lot of money and want to spend it, just go ahead
To be fair, that last 2 points increase can be worth it if you perform live, since you can tell the difference much better live, I've had a cheap 100€ digital piano when starting to learn years ago and now I have a used 400€ acoustic one at home, not the greatest in the world, I must admit, but it sounds and feels much better than the old one, but compared to the grand piano that is at my sister's school, a new yamaha c3x... Yeah, you really can tell there's a difference, trust me.
It's not only on the fingers: I went to a piano concert last year and they had two Grand Baby there, I was sat at the end of a not very large crowd and i could feel the whole room shaking when the two pianists hit those notes. They were playing Dance Macabre. Op. 40 for two pianos - of course - and it's very different to listen to it on my computer and listen to it live.
It depends if u want to play professionally or go into competion or not. If u want to play professionally or go into competitions i suggest u to have a upright or grand piano cause it feels different from electric piano.
The most important thing you get with an acoustic piano is the feel. I had the pleasure to play a bit on a new model of yamaha grand piano (it was 3 months ago or so just for the time reference so you can prolly find the model if you want) and oh man. That piano was a drug to me!!! I wanted to be on it for HOURS just playing it and listening to it. I own an electric piano at home which has a pretty good feel for electric pianos but its nothing like an actual piano.
Digital pianos really sound very good because they're mostly recordings of actual pianos, by hearing this video I think the most difference stands from the fact the real piano is just being captured in its purest form by the mic, while the digital ones are being reproduced by cheap built-in speakers.
Puriest? Any sound depends on the space and settings. Let alone the recording technologies. And how diiferent brains receive it. Nothing is pure, all mediated.
@@verycd Yes, Purest! I didn't say it was perfect, I said it was the purest. That means it doesn't get much better than that! Thanks for the lecture though!
A premium digital will sound very good, but mid-range and lower can sound less than stellar. Some of the most expensive and advanced digitals now use entirely modelled sounds that are capable of producing detail that a sampled piano can't, but some people still prefer sampled.
@@verycd Apparently they sound more authentic to a lot of people. And according to certain experts, that could be the case because a sample picks up certain imperfections that exist on pianos, whereas a lot of modelled piano sounds are purer; as though you're listening to a polished recording rather than a live piano. But opinion is still pretty split. I'm quite happy to buy a modelled piano. The Roland LX series has a lot going for it!
That's because you're also paying for the cost of making it. Also the difference is likely more noticeable in person than it is threw the video both in sound and feel🎹🎶
The Baby Grand was the absolute winner. It was so obvious. Sensitive to the touch. The impulse response in the peaks and dips, attack and decay. The ultra-smooth sustain and decay, the way a note rolls off. So much flavour in the nuances according to your touch. Superbly cultured!
@@picitnew You'd be surprised. Most were the heavy cheap ones, like one would expect. Then there's the Steinway baby grand that ended up in a friend's living room.
@@lmzl9666 It was just a case of being at the right place at the right time. This person didn't play and they just wanted it gone (very nice house). It was so unplayed that it didn't sound that good at first. So my friend spent at least a year playing the thing to death until it really started to resonate and chime. That one was a keeper. So he did. Some of the other really old uprights though, surprised us all with how complex the tones were. Most were just hernias in the making.
I can definitely tell the difference. It really just depends on what type of music you like to play and the sound you are wanting in an instrument. I love playing classical, and my grand piano fits that tone. I also have a digital keyboard that I mess around on playing pop and jazz.
I could be wrong but it seemed to me that the 70 dollars paid for a computer program? Although to my ears the 70 dollar piano sounded better than the 479 dollar piano. Anyway, I was under the impression that he was using the program hooked up to the keyboard, not the keyboard itself.
@@Night-Sight speakers give you two sources of them (four if you include treble/tweeters). In contrast, each piano string is a source of sound. that's a minimum of 88. also, a piano has a soundboard, which again passes on sound.
@@Ciaran55 Also, real pianos can be tuned harmonically, although the math says no. The digital piano invariably uses even tempered tuning, which is discernable to anyone with perfect pitch.
The real piano also feels way better to play than a digital because you can feel the actaual feedback you get when you press the keys if you know what im trying to say
More than sound it's the vibrations a real piano gives that makes the real difference. In electronic pianos no vibrations like the hammer actually hitting the string to produce the note.
Santhosh Stephen Christudas but the speaker vibrates to replicate the vibrations of the string. You wouldn’t recognize it’s a piano with your eyes closed if it were a plain sound
Blah blah blah vibrations my ass . I have a Yamaha PSR 630 keyboard wich i bought back in 1997 and it makes better sound then " THE GRAND PIAONO " . Ofcourse there is some difference in sound but the price difference is just too much!!! Not worth it
This is not actually necessarily true. Some virtual pianos simulate the sounds of hammer, the materials the sound travels through, sympathetic resonance, etc.
But if youve got at least some good pair of speakers capable of neutral sound making, you can hear most of the differences. To me, the digital piano sounds kinda flat, with no depth at all.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq if you are using a cheap digital piano from Walmart, yes. But an expensive one, with high-end Sound Processing chips, will sound pretty much the same or even better.
Guys, I can hear the difference with my iPhone. it’s pretty noticeable how much depth the acoustic uprights have over the keyboards, and then how much larger and “grand” the baby grand sounds
I've only seen a grand piano once and it was from a high-end mall I went to years ago. I believe it was a steinways&sons grand piano and an expensive-looking man was playing it with a violinist. Not only the piano itself was beautiful but the sound of it was so heavenly that I stopped whatever I was doing just so I could listen to it. I could tell that the sound of it was way, way different than the digital piano we have at home. I promised myself that I will work hard and buy myself that kind of grand piano one day. But for now, I'm stuck with my Yamaha digital piano lmao.
Some piano dealers will have plans to allow you to buy a piano on loan. Coupled with some savings, and a reasonable piano size (baby grand which is about 5'6" or something), you could afford to fulfill your dreams. Good luck, and keep aiming for your dreams.
@@michealscott2971 19k is not much if you plan to spend on a toy that will last several decades.... even a car nowadays is much less affordable than a piano (if you buy new)
0:02 I'm not so worried about recognizing the difference between the two. What concerns me more, is where that finger is going to end up if I fail to do so!!
Mic it up , do your best , rent expensive microphones then compare it the very best sample libraries on the market. You'll be shocked. We listen to most music as it was recorded not as it is vibrating in room. For capturing good recordings the average room is subpar, the average piano is not up to it.
I can hear the room. Anytime you add an ambient space to an otherwise dry digital sample, it will immediately seem more real. Also, the real instruments tend to make sympathetic strings (that might not even have been played) ring. The result is a more 'glued together' sound.
Close your eyes. It's very difficult to tell if you are playing a high end digital piano to the real thing. A couple of points though. For digital piano, you need good quality high fidelity speakers, specifically tuned for the piano range in order to faithfully recreate the sound. The real pianos, you can tell very subtle harmonics.. especially in the transition between minor and major keys. Environment emperature and humidity will also play it's part in varying the sound. Interesting experiment. I'd have to hear it live though to really pick them out. RUclips compresses the sound a bit.
This is the key thing. Over my speakers, they sound relatively similar, but I can clearly hear the difference when I personally play my digital keyboard and my upright - there's no question about it. My digital keyboard isn't cheap either, but I mainly use it for digital composing. For regular piano playing I would always choose acoustic. There's just something irreplaceable about the way its sound vibrates around the room that a digital piano simply can't imitate.
Flawed test. Speakers/headphones can't replicate the sound of IRL piano strings. On top of this, RUclips compresses the sound into an MP3. If the vid was encoded with MP3, then it's going to be even worse, since it's being compressed twice.
It could have been excellent to include a physical modeling piano too - digital but built using a virtual model of the sound generation of a real piano.
Considering the astounding price difference, I hate to say this. Yes, I do hear the difference. The richness and texture of acoustic still sounds better than its digital counterpart.
The accoustic sounds better, but I wonder if thats just because of how he recorded it. An electric piano that uses samples from a real instrument should be almost identical. There are too many variables for me to really decide.
Yes, it sounds better but is the quality of the sound really worth $19,000??? Maybe a few grand at best if you count aesthetics but to me the value is absolute bs.
no because mostly the digital samples are A. transposed and B. do not interact with the structure of the piano in the same way - each note is recorded independently - so there's no organic 'flowing together' of the notes the way there are with a 'proper' piano ...and most of the harmonics or sounds created by the actual BOX are transposed with the digital versions ...
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Vinheteiro: *compares cheap vs expensive pianos*
Me with my $10 earbuds: *yep, definetly there's a difference*
Why is it that a lot of young people have troubles typing basic sentences, these days?
It's quite weird.
Puro Why does someone who “isn’t” a little kid care about someone forming the perfect sentence?
Puro technically everything you just wrote was improperly written so if i were you i wouldn’t be talking.
Could anyone of you explain what are the terrible mistakes you found in these sentences? To be honest with you I find that some of the words could be different and make the sentences more appealing to read, but none of them seem to have dramatic errors in grammar or include any inappropriate words. Even if they did, why would it be so important? Not all people have English as their native language
Puro as a twelve year old I can tell you it’s because of kids being overtested and overloaded with busy work. It demotivates people my age and forces them to associate learning with 3 solid months of standardized testing, which isn’t good.
First! FIRST!!!!
Vinheteiro crap I though it was me x(
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Vinheteiro ha ha!
You were actually second XD
No. I filmed, I edited and did the thumbnail. So I am First.
I love how he does the finger every time and looks at the camera hahhaa
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Right? Idk why I like that so much too.
Thats style make him look special rather than just played the pianos without eye contact with audience... actually he is very good to play that instruments
He must be an Avengers' fan, especially Dr. Strange
It's actually an editing trick. It lets him get to the next time he played the song.
As a violinist (unfortunately for me, ex) I am trained to hear so many nuances of the same note. So yes, I do hear difference. Not just out of tune, but richness in harmonics and timbre.
i hear a difference too.. but for me, its not a 20k difference.. with a digital piano you are 97% there in my opinion. depending on the speakers you hook up.
@@boohoo5419 That's because it's a $18,930 difference not a 20k difference
Plus the less deeply sampled pianos won’t have the sympathetic resonance of the other piano strings.
I agree.. I too hear the difference. The workmanship put into instruments are very worth it. Basically we should buy what we can afford. Digital can never replace the sound of a well made piano but if that is your budget it works until you can afford better.
For a car channel, this guy plays piano quite well.
Edit: stop liking this comment. It's not even funny.
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Repulse 101 if you watch the cards that put the price in perspective, you’ll get it
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Having piano is better than having no piano
No. It’s not if it’s a shitty old out of tune one with pedals that don’t work properly!
@@tronlady1 yes it is! Having something is btter than nothing
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Yes water is wet.
I like how he measures money in cars
"How much is the bread?"
"About 2 wires from an 2008 Honda"
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Yeah People might spend money wisely if paper money doesn't exist and we use gold silver n commodity as money
You know what's the song's names ?
@• Zarathustra • thank you my friend
Ruan Souza Chopin waltz and beethoven pathetique sonata 2nd movement
As others have said, digital pianos have improved greatly over the last years. The sound from a digital piano depends on the speakers. Often they have little tiny speakers built in, but if hooked up to better speakers sound so much better. Nothing compares to the sensitivity of a quality acoustic piano. Digitals have their place but if you can afford a good piano and keep it tuned, it is much superior.
I play mine with good headphones...........oh boy. Roland 600
It’s not just the speakers, it’s also in the action. It’s highly inaccurate
Some times it's the poor quality of the sound sample especially on older and cheaper digital pianos🎹🎶
@@theadventureinsider
The video and resulting discussion was only about the sound. Very expensive digitals have very-close up to nearly-identical piano actions, though.
@@theadventureinsider Have you tried a digital piano with a progressive hammer action keyboard? They can be very realistic. Midi controllers and synths don't usually have this feature because they're not trying to imitate the feel of a piano.
The nice thing about a digital piano is you never have to tune it (nothing sounds worse than an out-of-tune instrument). You don't have to worry about sticky keys, improper voicing, cracked soundboards and broken strings. Digital pianos are much lighter than regular pianos and easier to move. They don't take up much space. You can get one with an attractive looking cabinet. You can also turn the volume down (for neighbors or family members who don't want to hear you practicing) and you can use headphones. And the price is right. Just make sure your digital has all 88 keys and attached pedals.
Can you tell me which type he played in this video??
@@juanatayeb8236 Yes.
@@juanatayeb8236 I think it's an old portable digital grand piano. Maybe models from DGX or YPG Yamaha family. And I see he record the audio with a smal digital recorder, in the middle of the keyboard, in the top of the upright and inside the baby grand close of the strings.
@@juanatayeb8236 I believe it’s a Yamaha dgx 660
@@cathcartmagic probably something older than that🎹🎶
If you stand in the room, you can actually feel the acoustics from the real piano. Sometimes you’ll get goosebumps from the harmonics opposed to digital.
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I closest I've experienced a digital get to an acoustic would be a Nord Stage three using KRK Rokit 8 g4 studio monitors. The best sounding keyboard I've ever witnessed. Can't wait for the Stage 4! As for acoustic, I've also been around a Steinway and Sons 9 and a half foot long concert grand and that is still the best sounding piano I have ever heard. The Yamaha C7 being right up there with it. Never heard a Bosendorfer in person but I've heard they are far better than a Steinway and have better touch as well. I guess I'll get my own opinion when I get to be around one one day.
This isn’t something noticeable via headphones
3:14 vs 0:03
For clear difference
Still not $10k difference.
Thank you very much, i was looking for this.
Jurgully Purf! I’m pretty sure a digital paino doesn’t cost 9,000 dollars
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Thank you!
i would gladly sell my car to buy a piano, if i had a car and could play the piano...
Dude honestly I want to learn piano so bad. The only thing is I don't know any Music Theorie. I mean I could learn it and I want to, but I dont know if my motivation is holding.
I know many ppl say u can learn it without any music theory, but is this really true?
@@zdvrk9813, I just started my piano (keyboard) journey today. There are a bunch of awesome beginner videos on youtube just learn the notes as you go...baby steps. There are easy to understand music theory videos, that are great at explaining the notes and how to read them. Just learn both at once. You will suck at both at first but as I know from practicing my drums put in 1/2 hour per day and you WILL learn and improve every day. I've been learning drums for 6 weeks now and am only just getting into reading the music.
Don't let not knowing how to read music hold you back, just go for it!!
@@charlottesmom Aww man, thanks for the great advise I really apperciate it. I honestly going to get a keyboard the next time. Noone can hold me back :D
Facts
@@zdvrk9813 , Excellent!! Get that fire in your belly and don't let anyone stop you from what you want to accomplish. I'll be cheering for you!! 👍🏻
I feel personally attacked every time he points his finger towards me
Аитор Хара every time he does that he is assuming your gender
It's his trigger finger
Microaggressions!!
What did "I" do wrong?!
I feel like he's saying "i'm doing this for you" it makes me happy!
The difference in the sound is the sound of an empty wallet and full wallet.
Agree!
RangedCreativity they have more distinct sounds with better pianists my dude. Its hella fuckin easy to tell the difference between a keyboard and a grand piano to a point where the music is significantly better quality. When a good pianist uses a piano, they are able to bring all of its features under the light, while keyboard lack literally everything unique about manipulating the sound from a piano with crescendos, accents, and especially 100 and 10% the pedals, since you can't recreate their function on a 70$ keyboard
Ayush Kumar and if you're gonna be cheap with music then there's really no backbone to your music in the first place, and your music will just be cheap in the end as well.
Oasis I disagree. limitations breed creativity.
Tyler Isabell after rereading today i can see how i approached this so poorly. Disregard what I said, and thanks for your input as well
Alternate title: 4 minutes 20 seconds of flexing full house of pianos
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I think he is the overnight janitor in a music store and makes these videos during his lunch break
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Wow Chopin sir, are you here?!?!?
Sure, nothing digital will beat an actual piano. But those that have a digital piano and samples sound libraries use the sounds for other purposes and not striving for the pure piano sounds. I have a multitude of sampled piano sounds and use them in my music tracks. As some others say, they never go out of tune, they are portable, and usually throw various effects on top of the raw sampled sounds. Not planning to be a concert pianist, but do it for the fun of creating music for myself.
You clearly know nothing about advanced digital pianos. To say a digital cannot beat any acoustic must mean you need to examine your sentence.
If your digital piano sound can't beat real piano, that means :
-> you've bought the wrong digital piano
-> you've set it up the wrong way.
-> you've never use high quality VST.
-> you've never put headphones/set the speaker properly.
[ digital keyboard + Good VST + headphone/speaker ] already surpass real med-high end piano.
@@01_zenyobi that's subjectiv🎹🎶
@@01_zenyobi what is then in your opinion a good digital piano and a VST to achieve a realistic acoustic sound?
what quality acoustic piano are you comparing against. Is the acoustic in tune?
My cheap earphone with only the left one working: Hmmmm i think it's different.
Feared Beard haha 😂 me
Stop attacking me personally
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Hmmm my left one is working unlike the right one, dude we complete each other
Digital piano has come a long way
Try again dude 👋
You......again....how you can be everywhere?
Not even 100 likes...lol
Ray Mak I Found You Again , You Are Everywhere
U must watch every piano guy that’s why I’m seeing u here
I can hear a difference but it’s definitely not a $16,000 difference.
It is because is a $18,930 difference
Well the thing is, if you just play beginner or medium difficulty pieces, you will hardly hear any difference. But with pieces that really go heavy on pedal and everything, a cheap piano will just fail to make it sound good.
Just look up animenz's Unravel
If you can hear it over youtube, un real life it will probable be a lot more difference
Please come back to halo, walshy :(
The most you really need to spend on a key board is 800$ a d you'll get the exact same sound as a piano plus since it's a keyboard it has alot of other setting and sounds you can mess with.
The surprise is how darned good the electric pianos sound. They have come such a long way since the 1980's. In the first acoustic upright you played, there is a whisper-slight "detuned" effect that adds so much warmth and personality. I spent years as a professional pianist, and really, I got to where I just preferred to use a digital piano on a live gig... so there'd never be any "surprises" regarding the tuning! On your baby grand, there is also that whisper-slight detuning,-- a certain "variety" between the keys-- but it has a lovely bell-like "singing" quality that the electrics do not have. You also reveal how pianissimi are much more compelling and delicate on this piano than the others. At Nordstrom I used to play a full concert 9-foot grand... and yes, that is the "Maserati" of pianos... The bass keys have monstrous, thumping power and enveloping tone, and I admit, I loved that. The keys on a piano like this have different actions, as we know... the bass keys being almost like firm levers that unleash the thunder, while the treble keys sing with a light touch. I think some digital pianos have sought to simulate that varied action across the 88 keys... Again, for 90% of your performance purposes, a modern digital piano simply cannot be beat. Bonus points if your digital has a MIDI OUT that you can connect to your computer for synth sequencing... Magic!
I hear the digital piano in this video is a Yamaha DGX640. I bet it would sound beter if it was a DGX670🎹🎶
What is synth sequencing?
@@leoscareer It's when you play an electronic keyboard, and it sends note information out to your computer using MIDI technology; a special software records the note information, just as you played it.
Most people don't even know to connect their keyboard to laptop and use some VST to make their keyboard sound decent.
@@01_zenyobi What's VST?
*First piece:* _Chopin - Grande Valse Brillante Op.18_
*Second piece:* _Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 8, Op. 13 "Pathétique" II. Adagio cantabile_
*Third piece:* _Erik Satie - Gymnopédie No.1_
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Biggest clear difference IMO is that you can *hear* the digital ones are coming out of speakers. Acoustic pianos play with the room's resonance and reverb.
and the speakers need to be placed relative to the keys ... woofer at the left wit the lower pitched keys, the mid-range speaker in the middle with the medium pitched keys and tweeter at the right with the higher pitched keys ... and the more speakers you use, the better you can have the notes positioned.
Johnny Topside the speakers play with the room resonance too 😉
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Speakers have a beaming disperison characteristic. 30 degrees off axis and you will have a loss of high frequencies and on 60 degrees at least -10db treble loss and even midrange loss. So the ceiling gets everything and the walls much less. A mechanical piano will excite the room resounances very differently. Also keep in mind the speakers in a cheap digital piano will not do much beyond 100hz and 10khz and the plastic case will add resonances.
So... can a digital piano (with hi-fi speakers) and a mechanical piano sound the same in an anechoic camber? Maybe. But in a normal room? Never.
It's called separation. Different source gives different behaviour. Digital is from speaker then interact with air where acoustic is straight from string with construction design
its about how the keys feel too. Regular wood made piano keys are bouncy, that bounciness makes it easier to play. Keyboards usually don’t have bouncy keys
I couln't ever have a rough ideea about how much it costs without the chineese wheel comparasion. Thanks.
Yeah. The randomness of this comparisons were the reason i kept watching xD
Tire not wheel stupid
@@ancientaliensarecoming7201 calm the fuck down
That is to give perspective on comparable value for people who don't live in the USA. Such as Eastern Europe, middle East, Africa, south America. Etc. Keep in mind the INTERNATIONAL AUDIENCE who may not know what a us dollar can buy. 😐
Well some of us don't know dollars and pay for everything in wheels. So this comparison was very helpful to us. I bet you three wheels you're feeling guilty about your post now.
I’m not a pianist, though I’m looking to get into it. However, I hear that the upright acoustic pianos produce more of a velvety sound and are much more smooth when between changing keys. The notes also overlap and linger longer when pressed-producing beautiful blends of notes that make up the piece. Overall acoustic uprights offer the listener a more pleasurable experience than digital pianos, in my humble opinion.
Try playing a good grand. The sound will blow you away🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 That would be awesome!
You are not a pianist and you have summed up the whole matter. It could not be more accurate. No digital piano is capable of reproducing these effects that you describe. If one day you start the piano, promise me to do it on an acoustic piano. From a modest pianist
Title: “Can you hear the difference between a Digital and an Acoustic piano”
Me: I can only hear the money...
I mean it's not really about the sound, it feels very different playing on a keyboard vs an actual piano
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@@Bobbylim323 Love the username. But yeah, I can play songs on an actual piano that just don't work on a digital. I would have to practice differently to play on digital.
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0:04 1:39 2:27 3:15 for easier comparison
Claire Aspenson grand vals brillante from chopin
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Thank you so much! That made all the difference.
God bless you!
Nicole Angelo Rome no problem 👍
Kyle Drewry of course 👌
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Its the way your fingers hit the ivory vs plastic and the sustain from the vibrations of the hammers hitting the wires. Unmistakable.
One upright piano is equivalent to the price of 1555 copies of shrek on DVD
Palm Frekal r/theydidthemath
Ahah, can you convert that into Celine Dion CDs?
choose wisely
That’s a difficult decision...
Oh where has our culture fallen?
Best piano youtuber... Cause you don't clickbait :)
I will never clickbait you!
Nao cliquebeita nois memo, tmj!
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Vinheteiro, himself, is clickbait. ;)
he does it always
The only instrument he didn't play was a digital grand piano (Yamaha Clavinova, Roland GP's, etc.). They are amazing - multiple speakers arranged literally in 3 dimensions, acoustically modeled sympathetic string vibration, the ability to change timbre depending on the acoustics of the room that they're played in, etc.
Hey, any cheap keyboard under 100$? I'm a broke college student who always wanted to get one but struggled financially, so for now I just want to learn .
@@reno8494 hey. You might want to look for used pianos/ keyboards on the internet. With some patience you can find really nice ones out there :)
@@reno8494 casio has some cheaper keyboards (not under $100 though), the CT-S200 is only about $120
well well, sales man i pretume you are
@@vericvoidal the cts 100 is 99$
Thanks for the posting and discussion. What is forgotten in all this is that you are listening to an electronic piano through speakers or headphones compared to a real piano also heard through speakers or headphones. Tough to tell the difference sometimes and depending on the microphone arrangements, the sound of a digital piano will often outshine the sound of the acoustic piano . A true comparison though, is to be in a room listening to the acoustic sound of a real piano and comparing that to the sound of an amplified or digital piano. However good the digitised piano or the loudspeaker system, most people would easily tell the difference. I know which I would prefer to listen to.
Is this guy secretly a car guy?!?
Definitelyy lol
lol
I think it's more a case of a uniform comparison set being better to understand than a disparate comparison set. (EG: "Virtual is wheel, Digital is orange and grand is Rubik's? What's the connection?")
SkyCharger001 but he could’ve chosen another subject or multiple subjects
A. Multiple subjects is a disparate set.
B. How do we know he knows another universal enough subject good enough?
His weird look and funny action of raising finger before he starts playing 😂😂
Ashish Ji It is a sorta positive weirdness, though. Every artist got some on them, you know? 😂
Ashish Ji It’s called gesturing and body language.. Like “Now pay attention, now something is coming”. Interpreting non-verbal language is getting difficult for the newer generations.. Must be because they are only on their phones all day.
It reminds me of a raccoon that has been discovered behind the bins.
Ashish Ji yeah what's up with that
I know this comment is old, but he does it to help with the video editing and syncing the audio to it
I can make half a million piano sound like 50 buck crap. Easy.
Alexis Lysenko 😂😂😂
All million dollars piano sounds like 70$ ))))
@@N1TRus1 I hope you're joking
@@ShivvyCPiano we are all already have heard those pianos!
@@N1TRus1 what do you mean
Vinheteiro, siempre dije que eras un genio. Te mando un fuerte abrazo desde Buenos Aires - ARGENTINA
Finally, a video when you are not staring into my soul.😂😂
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Soon I will look at you again!
Vinheteiro haha
Hey, dude, record a video playing your tuba someday
Vinheteiro No, thanks!
"Chinese Tire" was my band's name in college.
what was the context of the band name tho
that's so cool
HAHAHAHA MADE MY DAY!
Is it because you all thought the band would break apart after a few months?
@@timhinchcliffe5372 lmao
Give me the world's most expensive piano and I can make it sound like the cheapest thrash . Give Vinhetro a cheap instrument and he makes it sound wonderful.
For me that digital piano sound trash, you should see latest digital pianos that cost $1.5k. Those $1.5k digital pianos sound like famous grand pianos (I am waiting for my Kawai CN39, I don't want to spend like $80k, but I can play it because famous Kawai's is sound sampled on high end Kawai's).
@@someguyfromarcticfreezer6854 who cares
@@thepunisher8649 Obvious YOU cares, at least you are not musician BUT you are interested about music itself.
@@someguyfromarcticfreezer6854 I don't want to show up but I play the piano
Someguyfrom Arcticfreezer can you but me a piano
Thank you for this. With an acoustic it seemed to me the music was more layered, maybe because the physical strings interact with each other when played together, even across a range of notes.
Why does this video have subtitles in 7 different languages? I‘ve never heard this guy say a single word
He speak portuguese from brazil
Same doubt
Porque não? Why not? いけばいか?Pourquoi pas? .... .... ....
And he barely speaks english
Translate the words like you can by by 70 dollars the wheels of chaina
Well, don't ask me. I can't even tell the difference between you and Samwell from the Game of Thrones.
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He looks just like Samwell and Euron.
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Anyone: How much does the piano behind you cost
Vinheteiro: about a motor tubular carbon piece in a Renault cuatro version 2004 with 50000 kilometers
Love it!
And he would say it by silently pointing and sub titles appearing below.
hhaha, best! :)))
Renault CUATRO? Eso es muy argento!
Rukazu de hecho soy colombiano
Regardless of what piano type instrument to buy for yourself or children to learn how to play, learning the correct way to play it as intended, getting the timing and speed all together, you will be forever glad you did. We had a Steinway grand piano that I learned on and the music store had an upright, there are major differences in the sound quality and in the touch of the keyboards, both were beautiful instruments. I bought several keyboards over the years since then and enjoyed all of them, so, parents, do yourself a big favor when thinking about your kids, ASK them what they would prefer to play, though I enjoyed the piano, I told my mom well in my 40s that I really wanted to play guitar.
My son has a touch sensitive keyboard for his small apartment and playing for bands. Now he has a very nice house with lots of room for his very nice used 6 foot Grand Piano. Sounds so nice and fills house beautiful sound. Great for my Grandkids. What ever floats your Boat and needs. Thanks
Thats great btw i am also a piano player currently in college
It's too bad they don't teach you how to make money at it there
Jason Stryker how do u make money playing piano? I figure street playing but what else
Sebastian MFB song covers on RUclips those videos get lots of views.
@@sebastianmfb7233 If you find the right bar and develop the right shtick, you can get lots of tips and if the place has a kitchen they might feed you too.
Even if I had a $70,000 piano I'd still make it sound like an instrument from The Exorcist
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It depends if you’re the audience or the man himself
Nice stolen joke my guy! Have a nice day.
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A really nice demonstration. Although the software piano pales in comparison to the real thing, they've been steadily getting better over the years, and they have the nice feature that they don't go out of tune. Someday, there probably will be electronic pianos used in concerts. It will be as shocking as fine wine in a bottle with no cork, just a twist-off cap.
Whichever piano or keyboard it is as soon as your hands fall on them beautiful music comes out
Thanks. But the Digital Piano can not capture some notes of the Bright Waltz.
Ohhh my god!!! U replied to my comment!! This can be the best day of my life!! Sir i also play keyboard and you are an inspiration for me you are an idol for me and it means a lot to me that you replied to my comment
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Yes, It's obvious that the digital one has a very synthetic and stiff sound while the accoustic one has a soft, and clear sound with a deeper vibration
Probably has something to do with the acoustics having an entire room to use as a resonating box, whereas the digitals only have tiny little speakers.
Ahh deeper vibration! That's the adjective I was trying to think of but could place my finger on!
Theres no vibration on a digital instrument. Because there are no hammers and no real resonance..
Я не услышал чтобы акустическое пианино было лучше чем электронное. Возможно что из-за не дорогих колонок за копмьтером
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 there are vibrations coming from the speakers ;)
But its equivalent to how many toyota corollas?
Real Life Lore fan?
@@thageo6026 arent we all?
@@ayushmanthapa_onion That's true! ;)
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Wow! The baby grand and the upright still sound good BUT , the digital had a really nice lower end tone too . Very suprised and impressed ! I’ll still always love the upright
there is obviously a difference between the pianos (perhaps to a non-musician there may be little to no difference)... and in person or a studio recording, there is even more of a difference... but a digital piano is fine for 99% of the people out there. unless you are a professional (or just have a ton of disposable income), there is no need to spend 1000's or 10,000's on a piano when you are just playing for fun or learning. I see so many spend a small fortune and it ends up sitting there unused a few years later. unless you plan on playing for a living or at a very high level, buy a digital piano or a cheaper acoustic... a better piano wont make you an expert player... but an expert can make a great piano sound even better.
Justin I would disagree there I think that investing ina decent piano 3-6k(aud) is defiantly worth it unless you want the features of a digital piano or you don’t want everyone here you play or practice
BulletProof Tomato Spending 3-6k on something is a lot of money, and an acoustic piano probably won't make you better than that you would playing on a digital one. I would probably always start buying a digital one first, simply for practice and getting into playing it. If I would find myself enjoying it a lot and playing like everyday, I would only then probably start considering getting a more expensive acoustic one
spook woop ohhh ok I misunderstood from before, I assumed the buyer was already enjoyed playing the piano, what you are saying makes perfect sense:)
Justin I've been playing the piano for 18 years, and over that time I've literally played thousands of pianos, keyboards, stage and digital pianos, and I'll say this, I have a 250 watt ibanez bass amp($345) and a Yamaha ypt 300 that I regularly gig with that I would put up against ANY professional quality arranger as far as piano sound goes, you don't need a high-end or even mid-range keyboard for authentic, deep and Rich piano sound quality, all you need is the right type of amplification, like I said before, Ibanez is what I regularly use, but a David Eden preamp with a hartke cabinet will REALLY make a cheap keyboard shine, hell, it'll even make a Casio 61 key keyboard sound like a tolerable Yamaha Keyboard, but that eden/hartke combo is out of my price range, but Ibanez definitely gets the job done
The .45 Caliber Wizard exactly, you can make a keyboard sound just as good if not better than your average acoustic piano. Plus you get the added benefit of portability. Try getting a full sized piano into the top floor of an apartment with no elevator.. you’ll never want to work an acoustic piano ever again lol
What I've learnt after this is: it's a man who produces nice piano sound. All pianos are the same quiet things without a man.
Go back to building bamboo huts
@@raphaelsmithwick4363 Yeah. Nice place to go to.
@@raphaelsmithwick4363 Way to be racist on an educational video
Or woman
@@raphaelsmithwick4363 what's your problem???
Over youtube the differences are not too big I must say. But if you stand right next to the real pianos, this is a completely different feeling. And they are absolutely amazing things, so much detail, so much craftsmanship. They are works of art. But I love my synths ^^
Yeah, I can clearly hear the difference, but I'm running a room sized stereo, with top-line speakers. Speaker size matters. 😆
This exactly. You don’t just hear the difference in person, you feel it.
wdym, I hear the difference so much, are you tone deaf(Not asking sardonically)?
@@wadepatton2433 Good Headphones are all you need to hear the difference.
I wasn't being serious about size matters--I actually threw out the larger speakers I had because they had not the quality of sound of these Bose. I've misplaced my good headphones.
Wow, what a difference! I love the depth of the grand piano and the crisp sounds without the echo of the cheaper models. Those sounded, depending on the model, like music out of a can.
Very nice comparison, I love it!
Yeah the digital one sounds so harsh; I couldn't listen long to it.
I'm not very fond of my very linear sounding high-end speakers, but on this channel I notice that good piano music is their absolute strength.
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What is the name of the music at 0:05 ?
Waltz no 1 E Flat Major OP 18 *Grande Valse Brillante* by Chopin
And what is the name of the music at 0:22
Nathan Syx Not sure.
Nathan Syx Beethoven’s Pathetique (2nd Movement) (:
The second digital was actually really good. #2 and and the baby were the best
Gralyn Stiehl I dont understand clearly what preset select on digital - for piano or for grand piano? How i can compare scene by headphones and you tube:)?
Gralyn Stiehl I agree.
101picofarad um. He probably went with a grand preset and possibly had some sort of mixverb effect added. Possibly his keyboard gives him that option. Or its a super good digital. It had a roomy sound that was nice
Gralyn Stiehl it’s Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor, 2nd movement
Gralyn Stiehl I can hear it but can't explain it
“Equivalent to a Chinese tire” the more you know
Not hammyy lol
Not hammyy and made with real Chinese.
Chris Bramblett made with real dog
_ Veliah _ Ugh! Remind me not to order bacon in China.
U buy tire now? Or get out
Actually, you can get a nice, used upright or honky-tonk for free on Craigs List. You just have to be willing to move that two-ton behemoth and then have it tuned.
You made me decide to follow my dream and become a pianist, its something I always wanted to do since I was a kid but never had the chance to until now. Thank you.
I’m happy for you. I wish you the best
I so bored so can you tell me what has happened with you in the last year?
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A pianist, who happens to be a Car enthusiasts😄
There are lots of musicians who happen to be car enthusiasts. I'm a prime example of one. I play guitar and piano and I bought my first car which was a 53 belair 215 straight six three on tree for 1700 U.S. dollars.
I've met car mechanics who are piano enthusiasts
Random Stuff it’s not as easy as it sounds. Starting playing seems a bit easier but if you want to play a song you will need to practice it and learn the correct fingerings.
JEFF BECK
So is James May from Grand Tour
Acoustic pianos (even the cheap one) have something I would describe as resonance that no digital piano have I ever heard recreate. The notes feel like they have more substance as the vibrations of each individual note alter all the others while being altered by them.
It's just a matter of using professional samples. I use a masterkeyboard with weighted wooden keys $1.2k and 50GB worth of samples (4 different pianos) with authoring software about $2k. And zero latency sound card $250.
Also important are professional JBL monitor speakers tuned to the piano frequency $500 for just the pair of speakers without any amp.
Most people expect a digital piano to perform like a real piano. In reality most if not all digital pianos will be fitted with the cheapest possible mono speakers worth $10.... The second most important are the samples.... even Professional Senheiser Headphones won't sound good if the samples are quantized, flat and output to a 16k mono signal.
I would always recommend to avoid buying the "complete package" when trying to go for the digital experience. Always choose a masterkeyboard without any samples and buy the samples/modules separately. It will 100% sound better but most people prefer the complete package for practicality and manufacturers know that. The gap between even the top tier digital e-pianos and what you can do with professional sample packages on a computer is very very very big.
@@picketf Which sounds to me only worth doing if you need such professionally either for portability or because you are creating music in the computer and what you describe is easier than building your own sound proof studio with an acoustic piano in it.
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My point was: E-piano's will always sound worse because the cheaper you build them the more profitable the business. So it's always a race to put out the smallest increment of upgrades on decades old framework. People choose to spend 10k on high end e-pianos rather than research a good sample creator that uses an array of directional microphones in the worlds best sounding concert halls and grand piano's for their library. If you buy instrument and samples separately you will always get the better deal.
I would recommend a pro masterkeyboard (like Kawai VPC1)/samples/computer gear package over a real piano to everyone unless you are talking about a second hand instrument.
I noticed that too, even listening to it through crappy computer speakers. Another factor is that your digital piano has some square inches of sound producing surface in the speakers at each end. An upright acoustic piano has square feet of soundboard, with some of the sound coming through the front of the instrument and the rest coming off the back and bouncing off the wall. Through a big P.A. of course, the digital piano would come a lot closer to matching what the acoustic one does.
Try kawaii digital pianos. They have the resonance that only an acoustic piano has... I m sure other digital pianos have the same thing but i ve heard it only from kawaii
Another five years ha ve passed so it would be great to have an update with a current digital pianos!
the acoustic sounds better, but if you compare the price, its not worth to spent like 400 more to upgrade the sound from 8 to 10. Because in modern time, we have things can make any instruments sounds better. to be honest, the music is for listening, if you feel it's good, nothing else matter. But if you have lot of money and want to spend it, just go ahead
To be fair, that last 2 points increase can be worth it if you perform live, since you can tell the difference much better live, I've had a cheap 100€ digital piano when starting to learn years ago and now I have a used 400€ acoustic one at home, not the greatest in the world, I must admit, but it sounds and feels much better than the old one, but compared to the grand piano that is at my sister's school, a new yamaha c3x...
Yeah, you really can tell there's a difference, trust me.
It's not only on the fingers: I went to a piano concert last year and they had two Grand Baby there, I was sat at the end of a not very large crowd and i could feel the whole room shaking when the two pianists hit those notes. They were playing Dance Macabre. Op. 40 for two pianos - of course - and it's very different to listen to it on my computer and listen to it live.
It depends if u want to play professionally or go into competion or not. If u want to play professionally or go into competitions i suggest u to have a upright or grand piano cause it feels different from electric piano.
The most important thing you get with an acoustic piano is the feel. I had the pleasure to play a bit on a new model of yamaha grand piano (it was 3 months ago or so just for the time reference so you can prolly find the model if you want) and oh man. That piano was a drug to me!!! I wanted to be on it for HOURS just playing it and listening to it. I own an electric piano at home which has a pretty good feel for electric pianos but its nothing like an actual piano.
No it's certainly worth it. Sound is not everything to a piano.
with the keyboard it actually feels like something is pressing on my ears, while you can actually feel the resonating space inside the real piano.
Digital pianos really sound very good because they're mostly recordings of actual pianos, by hearing this video I think the most difference stands from the fact the real piano is just being captured in its purest form by the mic, while the digital ones are being reproduced by cheap built-in speakers.
Puriest? Any sound depends on the space and settings. Let alone the recording technologies. And how diiferent brains receive it. Nothing is pure, all mediated.
@@verycd Yes, Purest! I didn't say it was perfect, I said it was the purest. That means it doesn't get much better than that! Thanks for the lecture though!
A premium digital will sound very good, but mid-range and lower can sound less than stellar. Some of the most expensive and advanced digitals now use entirely modelled sounds that are capable of producing detail that a sampled piano can't, but some people still prefer sampled.
@@Biozene Why do people prefer sampled to modeled with more details?
@@verycd Apparently they sound more authentic to a lot of people. And according to certain experts, that could be the case because a sample picks up certain imperfections that exist on pianos, whereas a lot of modelled piano sounds are purer; as though you're listening to a polished recording rather than a live piano. But opinion is still pretty split.
I'm quite happy to buy a modelled piano. The Roland LX series has a lot going for it!
I can tell the difference but the difference is insignificant. But the cost us VERY significant.
That's because you're also paying for the cost of making it. Also the difference is likely more noticeable in person than it is threw the video both in sound and feel🎹🎶
The Baby Grand was the absolute winner. It was so obvious. Sensitive to the touch. The impulse response in the peaks and dips, attack and decay. The ultra-smooth sustain and decay, the way a note rolls off. So much flavour in the nuances according to your touch. Superbly cultured!
It probably is more responsive to the player, but it lacks brilliance.
@@joey_bonin It sounds correctly.
Most upright pianos I've come across were free...provided I moved them myself.
@PhyZeik Hey, free pianos is free pianos.
You wouldn't think that they can weigh as much as they do. I think they add rocks to them.
Then I guess you haven't come across some "real" pianos and perhaps only those cheap ones that costs 20-30 grand when new :)
@@picitnew You'd be surprised. Most were the heavy cheap ones, like one would expect. Then there's the Steinway baby grand that ended up in a friend's living room.
@@ravenslaves omg... How did you find a steinway baby grand for free...
@@lmzl9666 It was just a case of being at the right place at the right time. This person didn't play and they just wanted it gone (very nice house). It was so unplayed that it didn't sound that good at first. So my friend spent at least a year playing the thing to death until it really started to resonate and chime.
That one was a keeper. So he did.
Some of the other really old uprights though, surprised us all with how complex the tones were.
Most were just hernias in the making.
Honestly the only one i heard any difference on was the Honky Tonk
are you a pianist?
@@danielbostan1879 No.
Sounds like it's from an old timey saloon
A big difference is the touch sensitivity of the keys. Compare the virtual one with all the others.
Same
I can definitely tell the difference. It really just depends on what type of music you like to play and the sound you are wanting in an instrument. I love playing classical, and my grand piano fits that tone. I also have a digital keyboard that I mess around on playing pop and jazz.
Well I was wondering where the hell did you got a "88 key" digital piano for 70$...??? Usually they start at 200$...
I could be wrong but it seemed to me that the 70 dollars paid for a computer program? Although to my ears the 70 dollar piano sounded better than the 479 dollar piano. Anyway, I was under the impression that he was using the program hooked up to the keyboard, not the keyboard itself.
It's not a digital piano, it's a virtual piano. A program, and the 479 dollar DIGITAL piano (physical one) served as a midi keyboard.
For the keyboard, and it was hooked up to a computer which can have a GarageBand which is free and comes with a Mac or a paid application like it.
I bought one 7 yrs ago from Best Buy for $70. It was on sale.
VST instrument. Keyscape is £300 but supposed to be amazing.
maybe you won't hear a difference, but you will feel a difference when you're in a room with an actual piano (because of the sound waves)
Speakers also make sound waves. :/
@@Night-Sight speakers give you two sources of them (four if you include treble/tweeters). In contrast, each piano string is a source of sound. that's a minimum of 88. also, a piano has a soundboard, which again passes on sound.
@@Ciaran55 Also, real pianos can be tuned harmonically, although the math says no. The digital piano invariably uses even tempered tuning, which is discernable to anyone with perfect pitch.
and if you live close to his apartment.
The real piano also feels way better to play than a digital because you can feel the actaual feedback you get when you press the keys if you know what im trying to say
More than sound it's the vibrations a real piano gives that makes the real difference. In electronic pianos no vibrations like the hammer actually hitting the string to produce the note.
Santhosh Stephen Christudas but the speaker vibrates to replicate the vibrations of the string. You wouldn’t recognize it’s a piano with your eyes closed if it were a plain sound
Because sounds and vibrations are completely different things, remember that folks!
Blah blah blah vibrations my ass . I have a Yamaha PSR 630 keyboard wich i bought back in 1997 and it makes better sound then " THE GRAND PIAONO " . Ofcourse there is some difference in sound but the price difference is just too much!!! Not worth it
This is not actually necessarily true. Some virtual pianos simulate the sounds of hammer, the materials the sound travels through, sympathetic resonance, etc.
MinecraftEpicPlayer well said bbe fk these pesents
Orgulho de esse pianista ser do Brasil
He should be in horror movie..the way he points finger scared me😂
Since we are listening to this on RUclips, it is all in digital anyway..😂😂😂😂😂
But if youve got at least some good pair of speakers capable of neutral sound making, you can hear most of the differences. To me, the digital piano sounds kinda flat, with no depth at all.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq if you are using a cheap digital piano from Walmart, yes. But an expensive one, with high-end Sound Processing chips, will sound pretty much the same or even better.
Yes..indeed
But since we've all got analogue ears we're all listening to it in analogue, aren't we
Guys, I can hear the difference with my iPhone. it’s pretty noticeable how much depth the acoustic uprights have over the keyboards, and then how much larger and “grand” the baby grand sounds
I've only seen a grand piano once and it was from a high-end mall I went to years ago. I believe it was a steinways&sons grand piano and an expensive-looking man was playing it with a violinist. Not only the piano itself was beautiful but the sound of it was so heavenly that I stopped whatever I was doing just so I could listen to it. I could tell that the sound of it was way, way different than the digital piano we have at home. I promised myself that I will work hard and buy myself that kind of grand piano one day. But for now, I'm stuck with my Yamaha digital piano lmao.
Those pianos are very expensive I would buy one when I’m rich
Gee, I wonder what an expensive-looking man looks like. I wonder if I look like one of those!
Some piano dealers will have plans to allow you to buy a piano on loan. Coupled with some savings, and a reasonable piano size (baby grand which is about 5'6" or something), you could afford to fulfill your dreams.
Good luck, and keep aiming for your dreams.
@@michealscott2971 19k is not much if you plan to spend on a toy that will last several decades.... even a car nowadays is much less affordable than a piano (if you buy new)
Yamahas are great, a lot of other things may have contributed to that great sounding piano.
Weighted action and volume levels responsive to increased (or lack of) pressure is also critical for "authentic" digital piano sound.
"How much is the piano?"
"About a human kidney."
Edit:Wow,this blew up….
Actually more. Even more than a cheap car
Do you mean organ
@@greenland5206 ?
@@davidsegalle563 the instrument
@@greenland5206 break news! Im ficking stupid
A good musician would still make good music with any of them :P
A good cinematographer makes an Oscar film even with VHS 😂😂😂
Including a toy one😂. I have a toy one because my mother got a toy shop, and sounds pretty well to be only a toy
A good rapper would make a good song with cheese lyrics like "slob on my knob"
Excuse me, I don't think there is something wrong with the action of that piano...
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0:02 I'm not so worried about recognizing the difference between the two. What concerns me more, is where that finger is going to end up if I fail to do so!!
can't ignore how soothing the grand piano is
0:33 “This is Equivalent to the Value of a Chinese Tire” LOL!
When you are in the room, and those deep, baby grand chords strike and swallow you up. You’ll know exactly where your money went, and why.
Where and why
Facts.
Mic it up , do your best , rent expensive microphones then compare it the very best sample libraries on the market. You'll be shocked. We listen to most music as it was recorded not as it is vibrating in room. For capturing good recordings the average room is subpar, the average piano is not up to it.
Beethoven: Sonata "Pathetique" Op. 13 - II.
Gran Vals Brillante- Chopin
Yes. Billy Joel used the cantabile of Pathetique as the melody for the chorus of his 1984 song "This Night" from the album An Innocent Man.
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Thank you so much
I can hear the room. Anytime you add an ambient space to an otherwise dry digital sample, it will immediately seem more real. Also, the real instruments tend to make sympathetic strings (that might not even have been played) ring. The result is a more 'glued together' sound.
1:56 I like sound of upright piano.
"" ... the sound of the upright .. ""
Fixed it for you 👏
4:05 pls wath is the song :'(
@@truemonkey7w723 Gymnopédie No. 1
Yes! I thought it sounded better than the baby grand.
Cual es la canción de ese minuto??
The virtual piano had the best synthetic voice, the Honky Tonk had the best character, the Grand Piano had the best sound overall.
Even Beethoven could hear the difference and he didn’t have a digital piano
Uhh.. no. No, he couldn't. And it's not for the reason you might think...
Leonid Denisenko he’s deaf...
@@cocoapuff_x double r/woooosh
PotatoTomato T-T that’s the joke
1. Beethoven didn't have a digital Piano.
2. Beethoven went deaf.
3. ?
4. Loss.
I think the best price performance value for the non-rich might be a good used upright or a high quality digital piano in the $3-5k range.
Close your eyes.
It's very difficult to tell if you are playing a high end digital piano to the real thing. A couple of points though.
For digital piano, you need good quality high fidelity speakers, specifically tuned for the piano range in order to faithfully recreate the sound.
The real pianos, you can tell very subtle harmonics.. especially in the transition between minor and major keys. Environment emperature and humidity will also play it's part in varying the sound.
Interesting experiment. I'd have to hear it live though to really pick them out. RUclips compresses the sound a bit.
Actually, it’s pretty easy to tell, at the very least, difference between uprights and everything else.
This is the key thing. Over my speakers, they sound relatively similar, but I can clearly hear the difference when I personally play my digital keyboard and my upright - there's no question about it. My digital keyboard isn't cheap either, but I mainly use it for digital composing. For regular piano playing I would always choose acoustic. There's just something irreplaceable about the way its sound vibrates around the room that a digital piano simply can't imitate.
One of the biggest giveaways in most "real life" situations is that digital pianos are always in tune. Most real pianos are usually not.
Flawed test. Speakers/headphones can't replicate the sound of IRL piano strings.
On top of this, RUclips compresses the sound into an MP3.
If the vid was encoded with MP3, then it's going to be even worse, since it's being compressed twice.
It could have been excellent to include a physical modeling piano too - digital but built using a virtual model of the sound generation of a real piano.
I can hear one diference: I haven't got money to pay 5 different types of piano
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Considering the astounding price difference, I hate to say this. Yes, I do hear the difference. The richness and texture of acoustic still sounds better than its digital counterpart.
The accoustic sounds better, but I wonder if thats just because of how he recorded it. An electric piano that uses samples from a real instrument should be almost identical. There are too many variables for me to really decide.
Yes, it sounds better but is the quality of the sound really worth $19,000??? Maybe a few grand at best if you count aesthetics but to me the value is absolute bs.
no because mostly the digital samples are A. transposed and B. do not interact with the structure of the piano in the same way - each note is recorded independently - so there's no organic 'flowing together' of the notes the way there are with a 'proper' piano ...and most of the harmonics or sounds created by the actual BOX are transposed with the digital versions ...
so it's all about the combining of notes etc
Did you do a blind test or watch the footage?
I've heard some very good digitals, like a Yamaha 670 and done right sounds in-between the upright and the small grand
Yes. You can clearly hear a difference.
Odd Stories for Odd Children Can I? Oh, that's nice
And if you were there you would fell the difference.
Leonardo Alves fell it?
Jefe, the piano has some kind of vibes man
I know absolutely nothing about Pianos but the Grand Baby made every key stroke sound like it's worth the money
Distinct difference between them. Beautiful sounds from the baby grand
YOU HAD THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO TITLE THE VIDEO “KEY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ELECTRIC AND ACOUSTIC PIANO “ 😤😤🗿
Isnt digital also called electric
@@xFlPr0z he meant a pun, using multiple definitions of "key"
Damn it, you convinced me nothing can replace the sound of real grand piano!