Be sure to use zipper way after every use if you want that zipper to last. Both nylon and metal waterproof zippers need wax even if they say they don't. From a scuba drysuit diver, the waterproof zippers work very well when waxed. Also leave it unzipped when not in use. This well make the plastic zippers last much longer.
If you go to a scuba shop, they have it.... But if it's just for a bag then regular parifin wax from the grocery store will be fine. Scuba divers pay a couple thousand dollars for a dry suit, so we want to take extra care because getting the zipper replaced is close to the price of a new Glock
I didn't mention this in the video (in hindsight I totally should have), but whether I have a gun with me in the water or not I will typically have a small pepper spray clipped to my swimsuit!
I carry a jframe .38 special while kayaking in a zip lock bag or non-lubricated condom inside a small fanny pack. If needed i can shoot through the plastic with a good grip and no cycling issues with the jframe.
Excellent video. I knew a guy who addressed the problem by carrying a stainless-steel NAA revolver in a small waterproof dive bag attached to his waistband IWB. He could open the bag and draw it out or shoot through the bag. At the time, it made sense....
Do something similar, I carried the North American arms 22 mag 5 shot revolver in a concealable little pouch in my swimming trunks that's normally reserved for house keys etc they're common in men's swimming trunks. Then at the end of the day after I was in the ocean, I would go back to the hotel room rinse the pistol under freshwater and then set it on a towel muzzle down to drain. This worked fantastic. When I got home there was a slight bit of surface rust underneath the grips which was easily removed with the little gun oil and steel wool.
I use a waterproof fanny pack. Like, meant for kayaking waterproof. Watershed is a great brand but $, remote designs is a much more budget & great brand! Thats the one I use. The owner is a youtuber & I've commented on his videos about using it for my gun, he liked the idea! Its nice knowing hes not anti gun if im recommending his products.
For me, the beach/swimming is definitely a place I don't carry. It's also not a place I worry to much about either, large outdoor spaces in broad daylight, with people in bathing suits on don't send my alarm bells off. But I'm also a 6+ foot tall man, if I were a woman I would almost certainly feel differently.
That was my general thought. There are just times when living life supersedes trying to take a gun everywhere, particularly when you're main - at least stated - concern is just general degenerates who are roughhousing or had too much to drink. With that said, I realize others may feel different.
If I may make a suggestion: place a first aid cross or "RESCUE INHALER - ASTHMA" on the front of the fanny pack. People carrying any sort of pack in the water is unusual, and such a sign may help alleviate suspicion. Great video. I used to work PSD, and a solution we came up with for a principal who frequented the beach was to use an industrial vacuum packer on a hammerless J-frame. To make it shootable without having to remove the plastic, we cut a small slit forward of the trigger and had a gunsmith fill in the cylinder fluting to reduce resistance on the cylinder's rotation. It made carrying on body in board shorts possible. The sights were useless, but the sights on a J-frame at the time didn't do much anyway. We never used it in anger, but we did practice drawing and shooting with the setup. Some of us may even be guilty of taking bets to see who could shoot the best from the hip with the gun underwater. Good times!
Thanks for this. I am a swim teacher in South Africa. I will definately give this a try. My previous pack I used that was supposed to be waterproof, always got water in and it was a bit bulky, so it got in the way, especially when holding babies for swimming lessons.
This is incredible! Thank you so much for sharing. I live in South Florida and have spent the last 10 years unsuccessfully trying to find a solution for this very problem.
For outright swimming this is probably the best I’ve seen. I attended an athletic event where I had to submerge myself in mud at one point and had a shocking level of success keeping my gun clean/dry by wearing arrowhead tactical shorts using an Uncle Mike’s soft holster. I also had an undershirt tucked inside and obviously a shirt on the outside for concealment. I found that how snug the cloth holster is after breaking it in paired with the moisture barrier it has were able to keep everything except the grip totally dry and clean. Obviously with extended submersion this would not be sufficient but if you’re not gonna carry a bag it’s an option.
water proof fanny pack is a good addition, as far as swim carry I have been doing it for many years, Minnesota is where all the lakes are, I use Ruger Lcp 380 in the water by putting it in zip lock bag and then in pocket, I don't dive or jump in water so gun stays in pocket even if swimming over my head, water proof fanny pack would be good for a bigger gun, no crowds where I swim but that is something certainly to think about getting, I am always looking for better options, I used water proof boxes before but that fanny pack you can wear, so a best option I can think of to especially with a bigger gun and some added capacity
Honestly this is super smart. I think having a gun on you while you swim is just over the top but honestly it is so well done I can't even be mad at it. Great video!
Yeah I didn't watch this for purposes of actually carrying while swimming, but to be armed to & from and keeping it secure while being in the water. Tessah's solution seems to be the most practical thing I've seen, but I think I'm more likely to stick with the knife and/or pepper spray options.
Shootings have happened before at beaches. Honestly would be one of the worst places to be unarmed. Trying to run in sand is more difficult for most people.
I don't doubt that they happen and normally I don't factor the likelihood of shootings or being attacked at places I would go into whether or not I'm carrying. If I did, I'd avoid places with a high likelihood if at all possible. But as for the beach or other places I'd go swimming, it comes down to the practicality of concealed carry. Minimal clothing, inability to securely leave a firearm on the beach while in the water, not to mention sand, sunscreen, etc. It's similar to the calculus that comes with going somewhere that guns are prohibited (with physical enforcement).
Having used a variety of "waterproof" products and enclosures, and seen many fail, I would note the the FTC has long prohibited the use of that word. No reputable manufacturer will use it. The correct legal term is water RESISTANT, to a spcified depth and time. So you'll see ratings like "IP 68 water resistant" meaning it can be submerged, when new and clean, for something like 3 feet for 30 minutes. Even a "waterproof" divers watch is only rated for 1 year after servicing and gasket replacement. So a pouch with a water tight zipper....don't bet your life on it. Flushing a wet gun with fresh water, followed by alcohol (to evaporate the water) and then a thin protective cleaning oil "should" keep it fresh overnight, but I'd still strip and clean it once the watersports were over. And of course, replace the ammo. Even milspec ammo can resent a good bath. Might want to poll some SEALS on their protocol. I suspect a lot of cleaning is involved.
You might want to look at the Salt knife series made by Spyderco. Their are knives that are made with a high nitrogen tool steel that makes them almost impervious to corrosion. Having a knife you can draw from a pocket might be faster than trying to open a bag
I deep carried my S&W 43C in an enigma with boardshorts and a rash guard on a hike where we spent over an hour swimming in the river. Did this hike three separate times in fact. Still haven't cleaned it for a year and shoots like a charm. Wouldn't do this in the ocean though...
That's a great solution. I've been using waterproof bags with J-frame inside of a regular fanny pack. Also, I need you to quit being twice as smart as me at half my age.
Smart and very reasonable compromise. It doesn't stand out enough to call attention by screaming "Gun in here" and can easily be passed off as kids meds I carry at all times which no one would even blink at. Good choice of firearm not because of brand per say but that design even if wet will function reliably. If you are worried you can water proof the ammo with nail polish. Look up any number of videos on how this is done, and even test the rounds out for reliability. With that, the gun can be completely submerged mag and all....picked up out of water and will still fire al the rounds. Great video!
Yeah, you're totally right. Someone might guess that theirs a gun shaped object in there. I actually have a second plastic insert that I made for the bag, but I compleeeetely forgot to put it in before making the video. Typically I have it in there, and that breaks up the shape nicely :) This bag is multipurpose for me, so sometimes I remove the plastic inserts in order to carry SSD's and other important electronics. It's super handy and versatile, but I need to remember BOTH plastic inserts haha.
Years ago while canoeing I always carried a Glock 27 in an Uncle Mikes fanny pack holster. Neoprene insert and virtually waterproof set up all around. A few years ago I carried on the beach and in the water in a neoprene holster a Kahr P380 inside swim trunks. Gun got saltwater wet and some sand but cleaned in the aribnb afterwards.
I kinda lucked out and just use my parents pool. They have a safe in the basement they let me use for it. It's inaccessable, but it's private property in the backyard in a very safe neighborhood, so it's not the worst scenario to he without a firearm.
Interesting, that's the first time I've seen a waterproof/dry-bag fanny pack. Have you tested submerging it for longer periods to see how much seepage you get? Also, is it available in any kind of multicolored/patterned print? It looks like the Glock is printing a bit through the front face, and some visual breakup would probably help that. The last time I went kayaking, I ended up throwing my phone, keys, wallet and regular gun-toting fanny pack into a dry-bag and carabinering it to the kayak (which was a good thing, since I capsized at least once on that trip). I figured the need for a super-fast draw would be minimal on the water itself, and I was prioritizing keeping my stuff dry and not at the bottom of the lake. It wouldn't work well at all for, say, a trip to a pool or other swimming excursion.
I haven't submerged it for longer periods of time. I've worn in it rushing river water, and submerged it with zero seepage, but not longer periods. I'm not one to stay in fresh water for long periods of time, it's too cold for me haha. Typically if I'm at a pool I will forgo the gun altogether.
Ha! I was just trying to figure out another way to carry at the pool when we’re on vacation next month. Only option, really, is the ol fanny pack. I hadn’t ever thought about a water proof fanny pack, though….i strap my fanny pack high chest and have my piece inside of a water proof bag lol.
When not able to carry on or off body, but still have a gun reasonably close, I’m curious if you’ve heard of Console Vault. I have one in my center console and it’s basically a steel box with a combination lock on it. When I go somewhere “non-permissive” I can safely leave my gun in my vehicle and feel confident it won’t be stolen. I also have an alarm system that makes my truck unable to be started without turning the alarm off (for those who might comment “What if your truck gets stolen?”) The reason I brought this up is the way you talked about this subject, it doesn’t sound like you have a solution for leaving a gun in your vehicle. I could be wrong of course. Great content!
I do have a safe that I could use in my vehicle, but my lifestyle is such that I quite literally never use it. I used it quite a bit in my first year of carrying, but after a while I learned that I could plan my non-gun errands all in one go and just leave my gun at home. If I'm going somewhere that I know I either can't have a gun or I don't want to have a gun, then my gun stays at home. I realize not everyone can do it that way, but I'm able to, so I do. I don't think I have used my safe inside my vehicle since 2021, it's something I intentionally avoid. For reasons that @jstud99 gives a perfect example of.
@tessabooth @jstud999 I’m mid-50’s and have never had a vehicle burgled. I’ve lived in a large city of 3.5 million people for 4 of those years but most of my life has been living in a city of 100K+. I’m sure auto burglaries have plenty of contributing factors, but I carry daily and always have another gun and spare mag in my center console. I also have a rifle and other kit in another vault in the back of my SUV. This has been my “normal” for the last 7+ years. Never a problem. Just lucky I guess.
@@BitcoinNBullets Yeah, personally for my use case, I'm much more likely to have my gun taken from my vehicle than I am to 1) need to use it and 2) need to use it AND be able to retrieve it from my vehicle without having the opportunity to also drive away. Everyone's use case looks different, but guns are taken from vehicles every single day, so I try to avoid leaving my gun in my car, even if it's in a safe.
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Such a great video! Thank you so much for making it! I’ve faced the same dilemma for years and I’ve never found a solution until this video. Thanks again!
I was thinking along these lines over the weekend... the one water resistant fanny pack I have access to ATM though is translucent and a roll-top with three zippers... will look for something along these lines. Thanks!
I have a POM pepper spray keychain safety-pinned to my swim trunks. I'm afraid the pocket clip is too loose in water (though the sprays do float!). The Apple River stabbing case gave me the idea of taking a pocket knife, so may consider that. Appreciate this video!
Clear nail polish on case mouths(very thin layer to that won't cause feeding problems) & over the primer will waterproof the ammo. Most modern autos can take a full dunking with no problem so just field strip, wipe down & oil as usual when I get home. Wouldn't work for swimming but does fine in my usual holster for kayaking or canoeing.
This is excellent, the solution I was thinking of before this (at a public pool) is to keep a swim bag near by with the goods, and use a kensington lock to lock it to the lanes diving block, but obviously youd have to be nearby and the draw would be awfully long. Didnt know these waterproof swim packs existed, may have to look into it!
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Dial-down the retention on the holster and put the gun in a zip-lock bag. This allows the gun to come out of the holster quicker and in a rapid deployment situation your first rounds can be fired through the bag, then tear the bag off the weapon.
@tessahbooth The bag of course is sealed after it goes over the gun prior to holstering. Then, If you must draw that weapon, fire it and then strip remains of the bag from the gun, where to put that bag afterward is relatively trivial. Back in the bag, next to the holster is recommended.
@@XrayMike17plus1depending on the size of the bag, it seems like it would be difficult if not impossible to actually pull the trigger because one would not be able to get their finger in the trigger guard due to the plastic. And not all plastic baggies are that easy to tear through, especially in a high stress situation where fine motor skills are basically non existent. It may seem like a good idea in theory, like telling women to carry car keys between their fingers for self defense, but practically it isn't. And, like a coat of any sort with fasteners like buttons or a zipper on a child in a carseat, it has the potential to cause the gun to come out of the holster when it is not intended.
First I've seen your channel and this topic intrigued me. This is one context where there isn't really applicability for a desire to open carry unless someone makes a waterproof gun somehow lol. So that said, the solution you presented looks pretty solid! One thing I noticed when you removed the backing card is that I could see what appeared to be the bag-side of one of the velcro anchoring patches on the back of the card that should have stayed adhered inside the bag, but stuck to the card velcro instead. If I'm correct, you might consider sewing the bag-side velcro halves in place in the bag, either only on an inner liner if possible, or if you'd have to sew through to the outside of the bag, use Shoe Goo on the outside to seal up the stitched area. If you haven't heard of Shoe Goo, it's more meant for shoes of course, but it's an excellent gooey pliable glue that is also waterproof. I think it may last longer versus trying to apply silicone. In the end it still may become a maintenance item. The only point of course would be ensuring that the backing card and holster never come out with your gun or flex too much when drawing as you use this more and the structure you've set up ages and wears over time.
Great solution! Finally took my wife and four kids to the beach in California (I live in Phoenix too) I carried in a fanny pack, with the gun in a zip lock bag! Not ideal! I'll have to check out that bag.
I carry a G43 in a ziploc in my cargo pocket on my trunks every time I swim. I also have my CHL in there, too. Where I live, I've gotta have it on me if I'm packin'.
Yeah, you're totally right. Someone might guess that theirs a gun shaped object in there. I actually have a second plastic insert that I made for the bag, but I compleeeetely forgot to put it in before making the video. Typically I have it in there, and that breaks up the shape nicely :) This bag is multipurpose for me, so sometimes I remove the plastic inserts in order to carry SSD's and other important electronics. It's super handy and versatile, but I need to remember BOTH plastic inserts haha.
You can just use normal Fanny pack and let your Glock submerge. I’ve got a vid showing a 43x soaked for 9 hours then shooting straight out of the water at the range. Just strip and dry it when you get home takes 5 minutes
You make want to consider Ghost Inc's Turbo Maritime Cups. For $9 you can allow the Glock 48 to fire both from the water and under water, allowing for defense against hostile swimmers and aquatic wildlife.
I was on a white water trip once and had my Ruger LCR in my cargo shorts pocket. It worked, but got really wet. This would have been a much better option.
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They certainly are! I don't like a lot of the messaging surrounding fanny packs as a mode of carry as I see many advertising them as an "easy alternative". IMO off body carry is not an easy alternative as it requires just as much, if not more knowledge and attention than on body carry. In this case, it seems like the submersible fanny pack is my best bet!
If you're no longer a resident of your home state of Oregon, how do you legally conceal carry when you go back? I don't think Oregon has reciprocity with any other states and only allows neighbor state residents to obtain non resident CCW permits.
From my experience only rolltop drybags are submersible. I use a 5 or 10 liter roll top dry bag with a shoulder strap . It floats around when I swim .that Fanny pack u have looks water proof but probably not submerged . I would test it with nothing in it in the bathtub first
Very cool, from the thumbnail I would've guessed some kind of pocket rocket in a plastic bag inside the pack. In my experience waterproof zipper is an oxymoron, but let us know how well it works!
You're missing the obvious: Heckler & Koch P11 underwater pistol with an APS underwater rifle in case you need more firepower. Isn't living in the South during the summer basically swimming with a gun on? Just as important as having a stainless steel pistol that can handle infrequent immersion is having fully sealed ammo. Most quality defensive ammo should be sealed around the neck and primer to prevent moisture ingress.
Look up the Ukoala Bag. Get a small firearm with a small version. G43, p365, 43x etc. Glocks will operate underwater or with water in there. They're also saltwater resistant. They're also one of the easiest guns to break down in the world.
The Ukoala bag isn't really designed for this use case. Although it seems to be an option that provides fairly quick access off body, I have always felt that the Ukoala bag was very "telling" for anyone who has experience carrying a gun.
Interesting video. I think you definitely need to put some padding inside the fanypack, as your gun is clearly printing. You're leaving no doubt as to what you have in there .... anyone can see it.
It looks more like the old fashioned hair dryers or some sort of battery powered hand toy than a gun. People think printing is a lot more obvious than it is when they are aware of what it is themselves. Most people do not carry and will not look twice.
Never seen an aquatic edc vid before. Good on you!
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Be sure to use zipper way after every use if you want that zipper to last. Both nylon and metal waterproof zippers need wax even if they say they don't. From a scuba drysuit diver, the waterproof zippers work very well when waxed. Also leave it unzipped when not in use. This well make the plastic zippers last much longer.
Awesome tips! Thank you!
I was just coming to say the same thing..... Wax the zipper
What kind of wax?
If you go to a scuba shop, they have it.... But if it's just for a bag then regular parifin wax from the grocery store will be fine. Scuba divers pay a couple thousand dollars for a dry suit, so we want to take extra care because getting the zipper replaced is close to the price of a new Glock
@@PapaSmurf41697 thank you.
I used to carry fiberglass straight blade dagger at the beach, it's not as good as a gun but I could go in the ocean and still be semi armed.
I didn't mention this in the video (in hindsight I totally should have), but whether I have a gun with me in the water or not I will typically have a small pepper spray clipped to my swimsuit!
Cold steel makes small fiberglass push daggers. Easy to conceal and a small stabbing weapon might be a good back up .
The spyderco salt line of knives is also an option. Mine has been in fresh and salt water. I haven’t seen any signs of rust since I’ve bought it.
Sooo you’re poor and can’t afford a beater “banger”?
$5 gas station pocket knifes also work just fine lol
I carry a jframe .38 special while kayaking in a zip lock bag or non-lubricated condom inside a small fanny pack. If needed i can shoot through the plastic with a good grip and no cycling issues with the jframe.
Excellent video. I knew a guy who addressed the problem by carrying a stainless-steel NAA revolver in a small waterproof dive bag attached to his waistband IWB. He could open the bag and draw it out or shoot through the bag. At the time, it made sense....
Do something similar, I carried the North American arms 22 mag 5 shot revolver in a concealable little pouch in my swimming trunks that's normally reserved for house keys etc they're common in men's swimming trunks. Then at the end of the day after I was in the ocean, I would go back to the hotel room rinse the pistol under freshwater and then set it on a towel muzzle down to drain. This worked fantastic. When I got home there was a slight bit of surface rust underneath the grips which was easily removed with the little gun oil and steel wool.
Great way to carry when kayaking and boating .Enjoyed your RUclips
It's so easy to lose stuff in a boating accident it's not even funny. The fanny pack is a solid recommendation though. Should give it a try
I use a waterproof fanny pack. Like, meant for kayaking waterproof. Watershed is a great brand but $, remote designs is a much more budget & great brand! Thats the one I use. The owner is a youtuber & I've commented on his videos about using it for my gun, he liked the idea! Its nice knowing hes not anti gun if im recommending his products.
This is super helpful, thx!
@@killingfield no worries, enjoy!
This would work for running in the rain also. Kayaking, love this!
It is nice to see women who think of protecting themselves and their family.
Almost as obvious as open carry but still legally concealed.
Very useful video.
Why would you consider this open carry?
@@tessahbooth Because everyone who cares knows you have a gun in there.
But it's legally concealed.
For me, the beach/swimming is definitely a place I don't carry. It's also not a place I worry to much about either, large outdoor spaces in broad daylight, with people in bathing suits on don't send my alarm bells off. But I'm also a 6+ foot tall man, if I were a woman I would almost certainly feel differently.
That was my general thought. There are just times when living life supersedes trying to take a gun everywhere, particularly when you're main - at least stated - concern is just general degenerates who are roughhousing or had too much to drink. With that said, I realize others may feel different.
Yeah, very few options I can come up with. Well done for using the spirit of MacGyver.
But his character had always been anti- gun.
@@ke3552 Ha, MacGyver would strongly disapprove, but being defenseless is a horrible idea in real life.
@@ke3552 Yes, and it makes me warm and fuzzy inside knowing he wouldn't like it, but, it's still being done.
I didn’t know I needed this product until just now. And for some reason I now need one by this weekend. 😬
Thank you Tessah!
Underrated comment 👍
If I may make a suggestion: place a first aid cross or "RESCUE INHALER - ASTHMA" on the front of the fanny pack. People carrying any sort of pack in the water is unusual, and such a sign may help alleviate suspicion. Great video.
I used to work PSD, and a solution we came up with for a principal who frequented the beach was to use an industrial vacuum packer on a hammerless J-frame. To make it shootable without having to remove the plastic, we cut a small slit forward of the trigger and had a gunsmith fill in the cylinder fluting to reduce resistance on the cylinder's rotation. It made carrying on body in board shorts possible. The sights were useless, but the sights on a J-frame at the time didn't do much anyway.
We never used it in anger, but we did practice drawing and shooting with the setup. Some of us may even be guilty of taking bets to see who could shoot the best from the hip with the gun underwater. Good times!
Thanks for this. I am a swim teacher in South Africa. I will definately give this a try. My previous pack I used that was supposed to be waterproof, always got water in and it was a bit bulky, so it got in the way, especially when holding babies for swimming lessons.
I used to have a Glock 19 and they make maritime springs for them for the purpose of water submersion.
This is brilliant. Thanks for sharing 👍
This is incredible! Thank you so much for sharing. I live in South Florida and have spent the last 10 years unsuccessfully trying to find a solution for this very problem.
For outright swimming this is probably the best I’ve seen. I attended an athletic event where I had to submerge myself in mud at one point and had a shocking level of success keeping my gun clean/dry by wearing arrowhead tactical shorts using an Uncle Mike’s soft holster. I also had an undershirt tucked inside and obviously a shirt on the outside for concealment. I found that how snug the cloth holster is after breaking it in paired with the moisture barrier it has were able to keep everything except the grip totally dry and clean. Obviously with extended submersion this would not be sufficient but if you’re not gonna carry a bag it’s an option.
Last time I went to the beach I just had a fixed blade on me that was concealed. I will have to try the fanny pack out next time.
Solid. I don’t care if gun is wet, it works underwater. But water resistant pouch is handy. I’d do as you do.👍
Well done. I will now be doing this for my fishing/kayaking!
water proof fanny pack is a good addition, as far as swim carry I have been doing it for many years, Minnesota is where all the lakes are, I use Ruger Lcp 380 in the water by putting it in zip lock bag and then in pocket, I don't dive or jump in water so gun stays in pocket even if swimming over my head, water proof fanny pack would be good for a bigger gun, no crowds where I swim but that is something certainly to think about getting, I am always looking for better options, I used water proof boxes before but that fanny pack you can wear, so a best option I can think of to especially with a bigger gun and some added capacity
Honestly this is super smart. I think having a gun on you while you swim is just over the top but honestly it is so well done I can't even be mad at it. Great video!
Yeah I didn't watch this for purposes of actually carrying while swimming, but to be armed to & from and keeping it secure while being in the water. Tessah's solution seems to be the most practical thing I've seen, but I think I'm more likely to stick with the knife and/or pepper spray options.
Shootings have happened before at beaches. Honestly would be one of the worst places to be unarmed. Trying to run in sand is more difficult for most people.
Don't forget all the sun tan lotion too. Can you imagine trying to run on sand while covered in oil.
I don't doubt that they happen and normally I don't factor the likelihood of shootings or being attacked at places I would go into whether or not I'm carrying. If I did, I'd avoid places with a high likelihood if at all possible. But as for the beach or other places I'd go swimming, it comes down to the practicality of concealed carry. Minimal clothing, inability to securely leave a firearm on the beach while in the water, not to mention sand, sunscreen, etc. It's similar to the calculus that comes with going somewhere that guns are prohibited (with physical enforcement).
Having used a variety of "waterproof" products and enclosures, and seen many fail, I would note the the FTC has long prohibited the use of that word. No reputable manufacturer will use it.
The correct legal term is water RESISTANT, to a spcified depth and time. So you'll see ratings like "IP 68 water resistant" meaning it can be submerged, when new and clean, for something like 3 feet for 30 minutes.
Even a "waterproof" divers watch is only rated for 1 year after servicing and gasket replacement. So a pouch with a water tight zipper....don't bet your life on it.
Flushing a wet gun with fresh water, followed by alcohol (to evaporate the water) and then a thin protective cleaning oil "should" keep it fresh overnight, but I'd still strip and clean it once the watersports were over.
And of course, replace the ammo. Even milspec ammo can resent a good bath.
Might want to poll some SEALS on their protocol. I suspect a lot of cleaning is involved.
Tuf Glide Marine cloth
Sentry Solutions Marine Tuf Glide cloth and spray, works really well for freshwater and saltwater situations.
You might want to look at the Salt knife series made by Spyderco. Their are knives that are made with a high nitrogen tool steel that makes them almost impervious to corrosion. Having a knife you can draw from a pocket might be faster than trying to open a bag
I have an AMT stainless Backup .380 that I carry into water. I spray everything down with WD40 when I get home.
I deep carried my S&W 43C in an enigma with boardshorts and a rash guard on a hike where we spent over an hour swimming in the river. Did this hike three separate times in fact. Still haven't cleaned it for a year and shoots like a charm. Wouldn't do this in the ocean though...
Never even considered this, very cool
This is the first time I’ve seen something like this. I usually carry off body around water and this is an excellent option.
That's a great solution. I've been using waterproof bags with J-frame inside of a regular fanny pack. Also, I need you to quit being twice as smart as me at half my age.
Glock 42, a very nice choice!! Excellent product for carry a self protection tool and a phone o little things! Nice review!
Smart and very reasonable compromise. It doesn't stand out enough to call attention by screaming "Gun in here" and can easily be passed off as kids meds I carry at all times which no one would even blink at. Good choice of firearm not because of brand per say but that design even if wet will function reliably. If you are worried you can water proof the ammo with nail polish. Look up any number of videos on how this is done, and even test the rounds out for reliability. With that, the gun can be completely submerged mag and all....picked up out of water and will still fire al the rounds. Great video!
This is a genius idea! But you were printing pretty hard. Maybe try Velcro-ing another layer of plastic in the front to make it smooth?
Yeah, you're totally right. Someone might guess that theirs a gun shaped object in there. I actually have a second plastic insert that I made for the bag, but I compleeeetely forgot to put it in before making the video. Typically I have it in there, and that breaks up the shape nicely :)
This bag is multipurpose for me, so sometimes I remove the plastic inserts in order to carry SSD's and other important electronics. It's super handy and versatile, but I need to remember BOTH plastic inserts haha.
Years ago while canoeing I always carried a Glock 27 in an Uncle Mikes fanny pack holster. Neoprene insert and virtually waterproof set up all around. A few years ago I carried on the beach and in the water in a neoprene holster a Kahr P380 inside swim trunks. Gun got saltwater wet and some sand but cleaned in the aribnb afterwards.
Great idea. I always take one in the dry bag on floats but find it hard to keep on body when getting in the water. Thanks!
That’s a really good video. I like that set up. I’d prob have another strap around my leg to counter the upward pull
Sheild Arms has a great quick draw fanny pack called the junk sack. It's not water proof but it's a great product.
I kinda lucked out and just use my parents pool. They have a safe in the basement they let me use for it. It's inaccessable, but it's private property in the backyard in a very safe neighborhood, so it's not the worst scenario to he without a firearm.
A blinding flashlight, pepper spray or knife would be good, water-friendly defense options. It's no fun to swim with a giant chunk of steel and lead.
J frame in a ziplock pocket in swimming trucks zipped. Slow to draw but can shoot right through bag no slide to deal with.
Could be an option for people who wear large enough swim trunks!
Interesting, that's the first time I've seen a waterproof/dry-bag fanny pack. Have you tested submerging it for longer periods to see how much seepage you get? Also, is it available in any kind of multicolored/patterned print? It looks like the Glock is printing a bit through the front face, and some visual breakup would probably help that.
The last time I went kayaking, I ended up throwing my phone, keys, wallet and regular gun-toting fanny pack into a dry-bag and carabinering it to the kayak (which was a good thing, since I capsized at least once on that trip). I figured the need for a super-fast draw would be minimal on the water itself, and I was prioritizing keeping my stuff dry and not at the bottom of the lake. It wouldn't work well at all for, say, a trip to a pool or other swimming excursion.
I haven't submerged it for longer periods of time. I've worn in it rushing river water, and submerged it with zero seepage, but not longer periods.
I'm not one to stay in fresh water for long periods of time, it's too cold for me haha. Typically if I'm at a pool I will forgo the gun altogether.
Great idea. Thanks!
I never thought of bringing my gun with me to the water. I agree totally with your point of having it on you. The fanny pack is a great idea!
Ha! I was just trying to figure out another way to carry at the pool when we’re on vacation next month. Only option, really, is the ol fanny pack.
I hadn’t ever thought about a water proof fanny pack, though….i strap my fanny pack high chest and have my piece inside of a water proof bag lol.
This looks like a great setup, I might be adopting this.
When not able to carry on or off body, but still have a gun reasonably close, I’m curious if you’ve heard of Console Vault. I have one in my center console and it’s basically a steel box with a combination lock on it. When I go somewhere “non-permissive” I can safely leave my gun in my vehicle and feel confident it won’t be stolen. I also have an alarm system that makes my truck unable to be started without turning the alarm off (for those who might comment “What if your truck gets stolen?”) The reason I brought this up is the way you talked about this subject, it doesn’t sound like you have a solution for leaving a gun in your vehicle. I could be wrong of course. Great content!
I just had one of these ripped out of my truck. THANKFULLY it was empty and all they did was cost me some money replacing a passenger window.
@@jstud999 That sucks.
I do have a safe that I could use in my vehicle, but my lifestyle is such that I quite literally never use it. I used it quite a bit in my first year of carrying, but after a while I learned that I could plan my non-gun errands all in one go and just leave my gun at home.
If I'm going somewhere that I know I either can't have a gun or I don't want to have a gun, then my gun stays at home. I realize not everyone can do it that way, but I'm able to, so I do. I don't think I have used my safe inside my vehicle since 2021, it's something I intentionally avoid. For reasons that @jstud99 gives a perfect example of.
@tessabooth @jstud999 I’m mid-50’s and have never had a vehicle burgled. I’ve lived in a large city of 3.5 million people for 4 of those years but most of my life has been living in a city of 100K+. I’m sure auto burglaries have plenty of contributing factors, but I carry daily and always have another gun and spare mag in my center console. I also have a rifle and other kit in another vault in the back of my SUV. This has been my “normal” for the last 7+ years. Never a problem. Just lucky I guess.
@@BitcoinNBullets Yeah, personally for my use case, I'm much more likely to have my gun taken from my vehicle than I am to 1) need to use it and 2) need to use it AND be able to retrieve it from my vehicle without having the opportunity to also drive away.
Everyone's use case looks different, but guns are taken from vehicles every single day, so I try to avoid leaving my gun in my car, even if it's in a safe.
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Such a great video! Thank you so much for making it! I’ve faced the same dilemma for years and I’ve never found a solution until this video. Thanks again!
I was thinking along these lines over the weekend... the one water resistant fanny pack I have access to ATM though is translucent and a roll-top with three zippers...
will look for something along these lines.
Thanks!
You could just have your hubby sitting in the woods a 1/4 mile away with a 50 bmg watching your back.
I have a POM pepper spray keychain safety-pinned to my swim trunks. I'm afraid the pocket clip is too loose in water (though the sprays do float!). The Apple River stabbing case gave me the idea of taking a pocket knife, so may consider that. Appreciate this video!
Very unique video, also appreciate you explaining WHY one would consider carrying while swimming. As always, great content!
I vacuumed Pack an 11oz S&W 340PD and stuff it in my swim shorts pocket. Been doing it that way for years..
Clear nail polish on case mouths(very thin layer to that won't cause feeding problems) & over the primer will waterproof the ammo. Most modern autos can take a full dunking with no problem so just field strip, wipe down & oil as usual when I get home. Wouldn't work for swimming but does fine in my usual holster for kayaking or canoeing.
This is excellent, the solution I was thinking of before this (at a public pool) is to keep a swim bag near by with the goods, and use a kensington lock to lock it to the lanes diving block, but obviously youd have to be nearby and the draw would be awfully long. Didnt know these waterproof swim packs existed, may have to look into it!
I use a waterproof roll-top belt pack, designed for kayaking. My Sig P228 has always stayed dry.
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When I used to go rafting, I'd stuff a G26 into the front pocket of my swim trunks and keep it tethered to my belt with a pistol lanyard.
Dial-down the retention on the holster and put the gun in a zip-lock bag. This allows the gun to come out of the holster quicker and in a rapid deployment situation your first rounds can be fired through the bag, then tear the bag off the weapon.
Where would I put said zip lock bag?
@tessahbooth The bag of course is sealed after it goes over the gun prior to holstering. Then, If you must draw that weapon, fire it and then strip remains of the bag from the gun, where to put that bag afterward is relatively trivial. Back in the bag, next to the holster is recommended.
@@XrayMike17plus1depending on the size of the bag, it seems like it would be difficult if not impossible to actually pull the trigger because one would not be able to get their finger in the trigger guard due to the plastic. And not all plastic baggies are that easy to tear through, especially in a high stress situation where fine motor skills are basically non existent. It may seem like a good idea in theory, like telling women to carry car keys between their fingers for self defense, but practically it isn't. And, like a coat of any sort with fasteners like buttons or a zipper on a child in a carseat, it has the potential to cause the gun to come out of the holster when it is not intended.
First I've seen your channel and this topic intrigued me. This is one context where there isn't really applicability for a desire to open carry unless someone makes a waterproof gun somehow lol. So that said, the solution you presented looks pretty solid! One thing I noticed when you removed the backing card is that I could see what appeared to be the bag-side of one of the velcro anchoring patches on the back of the card that should have stayed adhered inside the bag, but stuck to the card velcro instead. If I'm correct, you might consider sewing the bag-side velcro halves in place in the bag, either only on an inner liner if possible, or if you'd have to sew through to the outside of the bag, use Shoe Goo on the outside to seal up the stitched area. If you haven't heard of Shoe Goo, it's more meant for shoes of course, but it's an excellent gooey pliable glue that is also waterproof. I think it may last longer versus trying to apply silicone. In the end it still may become a maintenance item. The only point of course would be ensuring that the backing card and holster never come out with your gun or flex too much when drawing as you use this more and the structure you've set up ages and wears over time.
Great solution! Finally took my wife and four kids to the beach in California (I live in Phoenix too) I carried in a fanny pack, with the gun in a zip lock bag! Not ideal! I'll have to check out that bag.
I carry a G43 in a ziploc in my cargo pocket on my trunks every time I swim. I also have my CHL in there, too. Where I live, I've gotta have it on me if I'm packin'.
That close up at the end definitely shows the firearms shape.
Yeah, you're totally right. Someone might guess that theirs a gun shaped object in there. I actually have a second plastic insert that I made for the bag, but I compleeeetely forgot to put it in before making the video. Typically I have it in there, and that breaks up the shape nicely :)
This bag is multipurpose for me, so sometimes I remove the plastic inserts in order to carry SSD's and other important electronics. It's super handy and versatile, but I need to remember BOTH plastic inserts haha.
You can just use normal Fanny pack and let your Glock submerge. I’ve got a vid showing a 43x soaked for 9 hours then shooting straight out of the water at the range. Just strip and dry it when you get home takes 5 minutes
You make want to consider Ghost Inc's Turbo Maritime Cups. For $9 you can allow the Glock 48 to fire both from the water and under water, allowing for defense against hostile swimmers and aquatic wildlife.
Cool! - never heard of those before
Is the effective range underwater more than arm's length?
Good information
I was on a white water trip once and had my Ruger LCR in my cargo shorts pocket. It worked, but got really wet. This would have been a much better option.
Well I never thought about carrying my gun into the water but also agree with you I don’t like carrying off body either
Great Solution. Everything is a compromise! Tks
SHOWER GUN dilemma SOLVED!
Thanks!
I hope you’re patenting this set up & putting it on the market soon!
I don't swim but I found this interesting and informative. Thanks
Awesome content as always, but I had a metric tonne of questions on this specific topic.
THANK YOU -- yet again.
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Fanny packs are making a comeback. I know that Sig has one for their Rose pistol
They certainly are! I don't like a lot of the messaging surrounding fanny packs as a mode of carry as I see many advertising them as an "easy alternative".
IMO off body carry is not an easy alternative as it requires just as much, if not more knowledge and attention than on body carry.
In this case, it seems like the submersible fanny pack is my best bet!
great idea !!!!!! also knife will be very easy to carry and less problems with water
Never thought about having it on me in the water. But I do keep it on the boat in a dry box. Not the most ideal.
I've been wondering about this. Thanks.
Well said. Compromise? Yes, but I don't know of a better way to have it on you while swimming. Good analysis with the draw, too.
Well thought out. Not perfect; but a good compromise for a difficult situation. It helps to be a boy--I can hide a lot in a pair of baggy trunks.
if there hadn't been a fanny pack in the thumbnail, I would have really been concerned about this video.
That’s a really great idea! I’ll definitely consider one of those waterproof fanny packs!
Brilliant, Tessa, well done!
MARS from tight chutes would work really well for this.
If you're no longer a resident of your home state of Oregon, how do you legally conceal carry when you go back? I don't think Oregon has reciprocity with any other states and only allows neighbor state residents to obtain non resident CCW permits.
At the time of my visit I was still a legal resident (there are exceptions made for military families).
Unfortunately that is no longer the case.
From my experience only rolltop drybags are submersible. I use a 5 or 10 liter roll top dry bag with a shoulder strap . It floats around when I swim .that Fanny pack u have looks water proof but probably not submerged . I would test it with nothing in it in the bathtub first
I carried it into the river last summer and didn't have any issues with leaking. Check out the bag, it's specifically designed to be submersed.
Nothing wrong with that & excellent video production, subbed.
Very cool, from the thumbnail I would've guessed some kind of pocket rocket in a plastic bag inside the pack. In my experience waterproof zipper is an oxymoron, but let us know how well it works!
Ok this is brilliant, this can apply to men too for water fun. 🎉
You're missing the obvious: Heckler & Koch P11 underwater pistol with an APS underwater rifle in case you need more firepower. Isn't living in the South during the summer basically swimming with a gun on?
Just as important as having a stainless steel pistol that can handle infrequent immersion is having fully sealed ammo. Most quality defensive ammo should be sealed around the neck and primer to prevent moisture ingress.
Seems like a solid solution.
Look up the Ukoala Bag. Get a small firearm with a small version. G43, p365, 43x etc. Glocks will operate underwater or with water in there. They're also saltwater resistant. They're also one of the easiest guns to break down in the world.
The Ukoala bag isn't really designed for this use case. Although it seems to be an option that provides fairly quick access off body, I have always felt that the Ukoala bag was very "telling" for anyone who has experience carrying a gun.
Interesting video. I think you definitely need to put some padding inside the fanypack, as your gun is clearly printing. You're leaving no doubt as to what you have in there .... anyone can see it.
It looks more like the old fashioned hair dryers or some sort of battery powered hand toy than a gun. People think printing is a lot more obvious than it is when they are aware of what it is themselves. Most people do not carry and will not look twice.
Try wax on the zipper to smooth the action of the zip. Also helps keep water out.
Cool
Helpful considerations. Thanks.