The Greatest Go Tournament Run Possible: The #1 Player
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
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How do you like my new hoodie? It's my favorite Christmas gift this year, I thought it was funny 😄
New hoodie, new haircut. Looking good
Amazingly detailed commentary, and given with such humility.
Thank you for broadcasting your opinion when you don’t know for sure.
Take your time. I’d rather wait a month for a commentary this explicitly and expertly done.
its the great beauty of go that even with modern computer engines there are still things we can't easily explain
I was waiting for this review for 3 months, and it worth it ! by far :)
Thanks for all your good commentaries !
outstanding commentary, leaned a lot. Keep up the great work!
I like how much you seem to enjoy go.
I'm very new to Go, so breakdowns like this helps me learn its ins and outs. This channel is a gem and I'm glad I found it. You explain possible outcomes and articulate your insight for each so well that it provides excellent learning material and content at the same time. I appreciate the effort you put in your videos! Keep it up!💯
it's pretty rare that i watch an hour long video to the very last second, your analysis and commentary is fantastic! super awesome content as usual.
My favorite go channel with a new video!!!
Great walkthrough and analysis
Amazing analysis! Its insane that this is such a game of inches.
Great commentary! Thank you
Great commentary, great game, thanks!
Never lament playing the best player in the tournament. To win, you have to beat the best anyway, who cares whether you do it in the semis or the finals
Great commentary and game analysis: thank you. I look forward to all your videos. Through your analysis, do the different games you comment on feel different; if so how? Does the game-play of players like Shin Jin Seo feel unique to those players; if so how?
Absolutely. I actually am feeling different about these games over time as I analyze more of them as well. I feel like I am improving a lot at understanding pro players dreams and desires within the game. Different players have different dreams - I feel like I understand Nakamura Sumire better than other top players, and Park Junghwan is my favorite player (full stop, but also) to analyze when I want to refine my sense of what is worth going for.
With some experience of doing it, I actually prefer not to analyze Shin Jinseo. His judgement of what is good and bad is better than his peers but using that tends to lead his games down unexpected and irreplicable routes. His dreams are significantly more obscure than his peers. His style is significantly more flexible. The reason why I prefer not to study this is that I feel like I'm more in need of learning large scale victory techniques than a relentless onslaught of very hard-won little victories.
Thank you for your reply. It is generous of you to be open and sharing, and your ideas are thought-provoking. I am a 14kyu player and to improve I have focussed on techniques described in books. Now, however, I want to try reading and analysing games. Here's wishing you success in the New Year! @@telegraphgo
Nice game, nice review, thanks!
Thanks for the review, really well put together and very detailed. Thoroughly enjoyed it. And noticed the hoodie too, where can we buy them 😄
Eveer since Ryan stopped posting regularly Ive been looking for a new source of in depth Go content. And yeah, thanks bud, this hit the spot.
Great video! Out of curiosity, do you know where the katago eval flips?
I think that it changed depending on how many playouts, it would realize that shin jinseo was losing about 10 moves earlier on 1 million playouts compared to 10k iirc
@@telegraphgo thanks, very interesting! Impressive that you remember all these months later 😅
coming from a chess background, im so used to engines being the king of endgames, what with tablebases etc
Great game, great commentary. Can't the AI tell you the mistake that made SJ lose at the last stages of the game?
Not really, the winrate was about 50% and points difference was 0.0, not 0.5 in either player's favor. I could research endgames until the AI agreed on a decisive result with me.
regarding where SJS made a potential losing move...I've seen some Chinese commentary that suggests SJS should've played B6 to defend the left instead of N18 and that's when he started falling ever so slightly behind but... no one sounds that sure in any of the videos I've seen about this game lol.
I don't quite understand filling the ko at 223. If he still has ko threats, wouldn't it be better to trade those down until whites threats are smaller? E.g. playing 223 at K6 to prevent the potential white point at J6
black k6 is just 2 points (at j6 and h5) compared to white k6, best not to waste ko threats when white takes an equal size endgame.
Ya shin jinseo is a beast unlike anyone.
Surely w played b18 not because they wanted territory, but because they believed it was actually less fighting power to be not alive, even if they had an extra move jn the center.
Of course that's a consideration, but it's always wrong unless the territory is more important than the center moves. It's not like you're ever really afraid 2 free center moves (first one and the one in exchange for black taking the corner) will ultimately result in negative value for the center boundaries in practice.
@@telegraphgo you underestimate my ability to worry