I appreciate you bringing up Arthritie spcifically. I was born with Arthritis and was never able to "grow out" of it. So including that in your review means quite a lot to me thanknyou!
Thanks for the review. No one else has compared them to coloursoft and that was enlightening as they seem like Derwent have used coloursoft pencils with a slightly different formula.
1,89 per pencil? Thank you so much for mentioning this. See, the reason I was so desperately waiting for these to finally come to my country was because I wanted a good but inexpensive pencil for mixed media stuff. I thought that the Chromaflow would be considerably cheaper than artist grade pencils. But 1,89, that's only 20 cents cheaper than what I pay for a Colorsoft. So glad that I know this now, now I can stop worrying about these to come here and just stick with my Colorsofts and other brands that are easily available to me. And Colorsofts do happen to be one of my very favorite pencils.Their black kind of sucks, so I normally use a Faber Castell black instead, but otherwise I really love them. And ironically, one thing that I love about the Colorsofts is that they are actually not very soft. 😂
Thanks for all you do, I respect your opinions and love your videos. I personally only have the 6 set of skin tone colorsoft but do not like them, I find them scratchy and dusty. I have a 12 set of chromaflow and am impatiently waiting for the price to drop a bit. I wish they had gone to a full range of colors like their artist line has but I look forward to at least the 72 colors for now. I had 1 pencil break while sharpening my 12 set and wish they were thicker like the others but the smoothness and vibrant colors are just amazing.
That's odd. I find the coloursoft to be soft and smooth but I bought my sets years ago. I have had a few people remark that the coursofts are crumbly and I never experience that. I need to ask if they recently changed their formula. I used some at the trace show last month while I was teaching for Derwent and they seemed fine too. I wonder if there was a bad run of pencils.
Here in Spain the Prismas are usually double, sometimes almost triple the price than in the U.S... on amazon they are 116 dollars for the 48 set!! 😭 Imagine the open stock price 🤣 So the Chromaflow or Colorsoft are more valid options here because they are cheaper.
@@wanderingstar5673 Yes, and almost all the artists on youtube I watch always recomend the prismas and I'm like ooo I want to try them! But derwent lightfast or even the caran d'ache are more cheap and easier to find open stock than those 😭
Yes! Just checked the bummed up the price of single prisma's to €2,34 at every color.. which is insane. And probably the reason Prisma colors are precious for me and I hardly ever use them.
I was able to snag the 150 set of Prismacolors for $48 a few years ago on Amazon when they were trying to reissue them with better quality control. I've heard a couple people say they paid $300 for that set a long time ago. 😬
I am still waiting for mine to come in the mail! Said they will be to me by May 4th! I got mine for $116 Thanks again Lindsay for another amazing review! You truly are inspiring! I would love to color and chat with you one day. I seriously could listen to you talk all day!
I love my Coloursofts I have the full set. I originally bought the 12 tin then bought the rest, overtime, individually. I have just ordered a 24 tin of Chromaflow (got them at a great price here in the UK £24.99 cheapest I've seen) so am looking forward to trying them out. I had put myself on a new pencil ban but these have been calling me for weeks. Great review 🙂
I have arthritis and I do find the chromaflow slightly less comfortable to hold due to the thinness of the barrel, but the colour range in the full set is sooooo lovely I’m very tempted, even though I LOVE my lightfast set!
I bought some double-ended pencil extenders that I can use even on full-length pencils and it makes a big difference for my arthritic hands. The extenders have one end for thinner pencils and a larger end to fit thicker pencils. Since they are double-ended, the openings allow even a full-length pencils to fit and slide the extender as close or far away from the pencil point as desired.
I had gotten the colorsoft thinking it was similar to the chromaflow because I needed some more purple options and I really love the chromaflows. The coloursoft are not as soft (kinda don't like them tbh). Glad chromaflows have more colors now, but I'll wait until the prices match up.
Hullo Lindsay! Sometimes you just crack me up! You often say well I think this “X” but you might find a different result! I like how you allow your viewers to enjoy your videos and opinions but do not discount theirs if it is different from your own! I have a cousin that has always disagreed with me about quality art supplies. She creates very beautiful artworks from the cheapest supplies, lovely crayon drawings with Crayola pencils. Now I believe that the Artist can use ANYTHING to create art, but how long it lasts is determined by the quality of your supplies! She has many faded or worn pictures that simply look not good, now she can scan newer artworks and print them out on good paper with ultrachrome inks and they are museum quality! The prints will outlast the original! I have even scanned a few of her older art and “revitalized” them and printed newer versions that look better than the original. Opinion is mine of course. Longevity is always a concern with artists if they care about their own artworks lasting more than their own lives. Maybe computers and scanning is one solution. What happens if files get corrupted? Operating Systems no longer access older files? I recently had a lady bring me CD’s she could no longer open! They were older Macintosh formatted disks and the program she saved the files in was ClarisWorks! Well if I had not had an older machine that still worked she would have been in a LOT of trouble. I let her come over and move everything to a new external hard drive with generic file types, If she would have had to pay for it? I believe I looked it up 4 or 5 years ago and Data recovery started at $300 an hour! Just goes to show you better know how to create and save your artwork no matter how you create it! Sorry I ran on and on again. I do hope that your family is safe and doing well.
@@thefrugalcrafter I guess it all comes down to buyer beware and I was always taught that Gouache was NOT permanent! but in today's market it has the same pigments that most other paints have and are many just as permanent as any other light-fast paint! I lost count of how many pictures my supervisor just tossed in the trash after they were photographed! Times change and as popular as markers are most are NOT a permanent art medium. Dye's VS Pigments same in many inkjet printers!
Thank you Lindsay. I have the Coloursoft and my husband offered to add to my already too many FSS pencils for my birthday and I thought of Chromaflow but now I’ll keep to my Coloursoft. Great review.👏🙏🌹
I like Chromaflows also, but I can wait for the price to come down. I’m very blessed to have Artist, Coloursoft, Procolour and Lightfast, so I’m good for waiting awhile. P.S. I love my Derwent pencils! 😍 Thanks for educating me about curating my collections. I have 89 Artist and 88 Lightfast. Loving it, all the colors I want and no FSS🤣
Exactly! I have the 24 Chromaflow and the full set of Coloursoft. I haven’t used my Coloursoft as much, since I bought the Chromaflow. I had been utilizing the portability of the 24 set, but I have started using them at home more. I had planned to put my 24 Chromaflow in the same case as my Coloursoft pencils thinking they would likely work well together. I have been having problems with hand pain, and was thinking about getting a full set of the Chromaflow, but I too think they were a little overpriced. Thankfully, I watched this review and realized I doing need them. I will likely buy a set for my teenagers, when the price goes down a bit, since they seem to like the Chromaflow pencils too.
What’s the difference between chromaflow colourtsoft and procolour ? I use prismas and love them haven’t bought new set thinking luminance or chromaflow depending on how much I want to spend. Also does chromaflow have French grays?
Amazon just announced a 5% surcharge to sellers . That will most likely be passed on to their customers as many small businesses operate on a small profit margin. Also announced by Amazon - increases in their prices to cover increased fuel cost and higher inflation. It’s a coin toss as to whether prices on the Chromaflow and other items will go down. Thank you for the review. This looks like a wonderful set . Seems like the Chromaflow are a fabulous replacement for Prismacolor Premier. I have always had a love/hate relationship with my Prismacolor. Love the buttery soft cores and the wonderful color options. Definitely could live without the split barrels, shattered cores, etc. purchasing when on sale for about $70 for 150 set did make the problems more tolerable.
I love the formula of the chromaflow but wish they had the same body type as the rest of the derwent range, I'll stick with building out my lightfast collection since I can't see the chromaflow faring well openstock all the way to Australia 😭
I saw that this was going to be released and I'm hoping it's still available when I'm no longer as broke later this year. :-( I'm looking forward to buying a set!!!! Thanks for the review.
I just got a 24 pack for $35. They're coming tomorrow. The only Derwent pencils I've ever used are the Inktense. Counting on the Chromaflow to blow Prismas away as far as overall build quality.
I'm all done getting excited about colored pencils. I have over 70 sets and I've lost my excitement for buying them over the years. They sit on my shelves and collect dust. I was all in on the coloring craze and I've since moved on to mixed media. You don't need to be so precise and perfect with mixed media. There's much more artistic freedom.
thank you i have so many pencils ,i dont draw alot i paint more but im teaching my self faces and my 12 set of chromaflow do help me with eyes and lips .much easier than watercoloring with a brush,i put the 12 set of polychromos in my cart i have to say videos do intice my buying at times ,
Thank you. I have the colorsoft and was considering the chromoflow, so you saved me some money. I really like derwent pencils but they have so many different ones, it's confusing. Thank you
Today was my lucky, lucky day. Driving cross country to see my dad and stopped by the Blick mothership in Galesburg, IL. I found a set of 72 for $40. 😁 The tin has a little scratch but I’m ok with that for 55.5 cents/pencil!
Question- You've stated the 24 set blends well for a useful color range. If you were to 'round out' that set with a few open stock, which colors would you recommend as most versatile? Thanks for the review, Lindsay.
I find Coloursoft to feel a bit chalky, if that makes sense. While I love the colors, I quit using them because of that feel. Maybe I need to try them again on their own. I used to use them with Prismacolor in the same work. I'd love to try the Chromoflow, but am waiting for a price drop.
@@thefrugalcrafter I bought mine maybe four or five years ago. I wouldn't say they were scratchy at all, which is why I wasn't sure about using chalky. I just played with one again. Does powdery but still soft make more sense? They feel softer than Prismacolor, but somehow not as fragile.
@@traciesawrey9084 It may be because I used mine beside Prismacolor Premier, which are very creamy. I'm going to give them another shot soon. Do you Premiers also?
I bought these on your recommendatiom and can't wait to play with them. The set of 72 arrived today and while the pencils themselves look fine, tips are all intact and no cracks, the tin was dented very badly. Do you think if they have internal cracking I can try the same tips used for Prismacolor Premier pencils, like using a heating pad, laying in a sunny window, and most drastically microwaving? Or do you think I shouldn't take the risk and just return them? I've noticed, like you, that Amazon has been battering my pencils they ship to me. They're not even putting mine in bubble mailers, just those think plastic bags. I've ordered 3 full sets of different Derwent product lines in the past 2 months and each one arrived banged up. I've returned and somehow their replacements arrived safely even though still in the terrible packaging. Thank you for everything you do for us!
That's up to you. I'd try them and see how they are. If the dented tin bothers you you could contact Derwent with a photo and they will advise what to do. They my want to exchange it just ship a new tin. I'm sure they would like to know the state their pencils arrive in. Mine came via boat from Derwent PR for work and the pencils for shifted in the package but we're fine. Derwent stands behind their products so if they don't sharpen well they will replace them.
I've got my set but haven't had a chance to use them yet. I wonder what the tendency to wax bloom will be, if it'll be as acute as it was with Coloursoft. As for the benefit, there's colours in the Chromaflow set that are new to Derwent.
thanks for a great review! for the casual artist who has a full set of the prismaclors, do you think these are necessary? I don't want to buy another set that just kinda sits on my shelf!
Excellent review, as always, Lindsay :) I have a few Coloursoft pencils, and I love their more unusual colors, but the only thing that keeps me from buying more is that mine break very easily. I'm curious to see how the Chromaflows turn out in that regard. I had an idea. Can clutch pencils / lead holders be used to hold the broken tips of colored pencils? My Prismacolor 3.0mm and Brutfuner 3.3mm break very frequently, so I got the idea to not waste the broken bits by using a clutch pencil to grip them. Potential probelm and solution: Would leaving a piece of graphite lead inside the clutch pencil prevent the waxy colored pencil from slipping inside the clutch pencil? After some research, I'm focuing on the Faber-Castell TK9400. I've read that the 4B-6B range comes in a 3.15mm size, which might fit. What do you think?
@@thefrugalcrafter Thanks. Hmm...what happens when you get to the part where you glued it? I assume it won't color correctly at that point. Do you just cut off the glue?
You sure kept that secret well. I knew you knew and I couldn’t get you to let it out of the bag. Lol. I purchased both the pro color and color soft this past year and paid $109 for each and that was waiting for the price to go down (just a little). I think I’m going to wait on these. It sure is hard to find any lightfast on any product on their site. I still can’t find any.
I hope my lightfast chart I printed is accurate! I downloaded it on my phone when I first saw it and when I went to find it on my computers I couldn't! So I printed the save file on my phone. Odd huh?
I bought a set of the 24 set and immediately didn’t like them. I don’t even know whether I liked the performance I couldn’t get past how small they were. If felt like they’d cheaped out, made a child’s coloring pencil and were testing the waters to see if we’d buy it. Looks like we did since they’ve come out with the 72. Like when you go to buy a half gallon of milk only to find they’ve upped the price and are now selling it in 3/4 gallon containers. It’s being done to us to much, every time I go grocery shopping I’m seeing it. Then when I saw these pencils I was so disgusted I threw them in my closet and never looked much at them again. I did try them on paper a little. But I felt ripped off.
I'd give them another chance. They are great over marker in a limited supply art bag. I think they are expensive now for what they are but will drop once the demand dies down. I too wish they were thicker to support the soft core.
Hi thanks for your videos. Always so informative! Question: how would you describe the overall palette of the 72 set of Chromaflows? I already have the 72 set of Coloursofts and I consider them to be a bit muted especially compared to Prismacolor. If the Chromaflow is supposed to be like the Prismacolor, is the Chromaflow palette brighter than the Coloursoft palette? Thanks, Henrietta
Question: Were your original ones the same exact barrel colors and numbers as the full set? Mine were not. My original set purchased just after they hit the US have no double zeros and the the metallic band is slightly darker on the original. Also five of my new pencils were not the same colors. My blue 13 was two shades lighter than my blue 1300, and four others were a shade off. I suppose they could have updated for the full release, it just caught me by surprise. They color exactly the same. Pretty sure my art store did not sell me knock offs. I was wondering if anyone else compared their old colors swatched next to their new. Still, very nice pencils, but a bit pricey.
I think they added the 00 because they needed more numbers. When they first came out they had no plans to expand beyond the 24 but they had tons of requests for a larger line. Im not sure if they have changed the numbers over from the smaller set. The quality is the same from my experience.
Great video as always 👍 I have coloursoft and find them quite dry compared to Prismas. If chromaflow and coloursoft sets were combined would you get a better colour range or are the colour pallets very close?
You could add more layers by combining sets as the chromaflow are softer and will stick on top but I don't think the color ranges are different enough to warrant getting a full set of both unless you want them. You could purchase colors you want to augment your Coloursoft set with tho.
@@thefrugalcrafter Thanks for this you have saved me some money😉 It's just prismacolor are so frustrating with the breakages, and they aren't cheap pencils. I am heavy handed and not a layering colourists so alternatives are few and far between. Your reviews are so informative and helpful thanks again. Waving 🇦🇺
I have a small set of these (12 pencil set). Two pencils had broken leads. Other than that I think these are very nice. Today I saw on Blick that open stock chromaflow pencils are $0.83. I think that’s a decent price. EDIT 01/02/2024 is the date I saw the price.
@shadowguard3578 I just checked Blick's and the Chromaflows are going for $2.08/pencil now! That is quite a jump in price! It looks like if you buy at least 12 of them, the price lowers to $1.63/pencil. I had to "run" to Blick's website when I saw you said the pencils were $0.83! :)
I have a time lapse of it on my channel. Since it was a paid class only registered students got a recording. I did a pair if peaches in Critique club using similar techniques tho.
I think that's why. They did 12 wide boxes for 12-36 and 24 wide or the others I think to ease the transition from prismacolor customers. I prefer the 36 wide tins because it's fewer trays to have out at once.
I guess I just have a bad batch of color soft but mine has little pigment and is almost transparent on black paper while my chromaflow is highly opaque. Because I hear so many raves about the Colorsoft and I've been doing art for over 30 years. 🤷♀️
Hi.. thanks for the review! I have a full set of colour soft. I feel that they blend well but the pencil doesn’t hold a point at all. I don’t want a firm dry pencil either and really want to try prismacolor. I am just worried about the breakage issues that everyone keeps talking about. Do you think that derwent colorsoft would be better than prismacolor? Or they are both similar to coloursoft so I shouldn’t bother. In my country’s price range I can either get the 72 colorsoft, the 72 lightfast (a bit more expensive) or the 150 prismacolor (the most expensive).
Honestly I wuld stick to the coloursoft as they are almost as soft as prismcolor but more sturdy and highter quality. The Chromaflow are more sililar to Prismacolor as they are softer but the lead wears down fat like a coloursoft. If you can afford it I'd go for the Derwenrt Lightfast. The are a bit firmer but not hard or dry and they are wonderful!
@@thefrugalcrafter thanks a lot for your reply. I think I will save for the lightfast. They are actually less expensive than prismacolor in India and a little more than the chromaflow.
Hi Lindsay. I recently got an email from Amazon suggesting the Derwent Artist Colored Pencils 72 set - just wondering if you have/use them and where they rate in the Derwent collections? Are they similar to Chromoflow or ProColor or more of a student set?
They are the largest range of colors Derwent offers at 120 pencils. I have a set but I have not gotton around to reviewing them yet. They are harder than chromaflow or coloursoft. They are a professional set.
like i just bought the 24 pack and couldnt find a bigger pack and then they GET HERE AND EVERYONE HAS A BIGGER PACK. i cant affooooord edit: god youre an amazing artist
I tried ordering these pencils from Derwent, because it’s a better price than Amazon. Derwent won’t accept the United States as my country. What should I do?
Huh, that's odd. I think the ship to 🇺🇸 I'd contact customer service and see if they are restricting the product. I know they released it to UK first and I couldn't post about them until today.
Lindsay, this is a related question to this topic. I ordered the Jarlink electric pencil sharpener from Amazon you reviewed & I'm very pleased it says you can use the automatic sharpen feature OR you can sharpen for less time. But I'm a little concerned bc it says not to sharpen wax pencils. Most of the wax pencils are the self sharpening type anyway but there is no contact info to ask if soft color pencils sre ok. Do you have any idea? Ive heard it suggested to sharpen graphite pencils occasionally to help clear out the color pencil from the blade.
Well, they are not only difficult to sharpen to a nice point,but they break A LOT, poor quality wood, it’s not just me saying this, they break much more than Prismacolor, they don’t layer as well and they COST DOUBLE. ALSO they are not available open stock, I watched other reviews and checked for open stock on their website and Dick Blick, not available. Maybe in the UK where Prismacolor is more expensive,these would be a better choice,but the quality is definitely not as good all around.
They are open stock on the Derwent site and the price will be in line with prismacolor once they have been out a bit. If you are getting breakage I recommend contacting Derwent customer service for replacements.
@@thefrugalcrafter Available open stock in UK but not in US. And as I said I talked to other professional artists, they have excessive breakage issues. The price being just about double of Prismacolor,how can it get in line with them?
Tangle…. Is the verb… “Zentangle” is a copyrighted label for the process established by Zentangle, Inc. and is NOT a verb… Important to respect this difference.
That's just part of how our language evolves. Most of say Xerox instead of photocopier, Crock Pot instead of slow cooker, Band-Aid, Jacuzzi, Q-Tips, Tupperware, Chapstick, etc. You can't control how others use it.
I appreciate you bringing up Arthritie spcifically. I was born with Arthritis and was never able to "grow out" of it. So including that in your review means quite a lot to me thanknyou!
Thanks for the review. No one else has compared them to coloursoft and that was enlightening as they seem like Derwent have used coloursoft pencils with a slightly different formula.
1,89 per pencil? Thank you so much for mentioning this. See, the reason I was so desperately waiting for these to finally come to my country was because I wanted a good but inexpensive pencil for mixed media stuff. I thought that the Chromaflow would be considerably cheaper than artist grade pencils. But 1,89, that's only 20 cents cheaper than what I pay for a Colorsoft. So glad that I know this now, now I can stop worrying about these to come here and just stick with my Colorsofts and other brands that are easily available to me. And Colorsofts do happen to be one of my very favorite pencils.Their black kind of sucks, so I normally use a Faber Castell black instead, but otherwise I really love them. And ironically, one thing that I love about the Colorsofts is that they are actually not very soft. 😂
Just bought the 72 set. I have severe arthritis in my dominant hand and find these pencils to not tire my hand or cause after pain.
Thanks for all you do, I respect your opinions and love your videos.
I personally only have the 6 set of skin tone colorsoft but do not like them, I find them scratchy and dusty. I have a 12 set of chromaflow and am impatiently waiting for the price to drop a bit. I wish they had gone to a full range of colors like their artist line has but I look forward to at least the 72 colors for now. I had 1 pencil break while sharpening my 12 set and wish they were thicker like the others but the smoothness and vibrant colors are just amazing.
That's odd. I find the coloursoft to be soft and smooth but I bought my sets years ago. I have had a few people remark that the coursofts are crumbly and I never experience that. I need to ask if they recently changed their formula. I used some at the trace show last month while I was teaching for Derwent and they seemed fine too. I wonder if there was a bad run of pencils.
Here in Spain the Prismas are usually double, sometimes almost triple the price than in the U.S... on amazon they are 116 dollars for the 48 set!! 😭 Imagine the open stock price 🤣 So the Chromaflow or Colorsoft are more valid options here because they are cheaper.
I’m amazed at the difference geography makes in prices.
@@wanderingstar5673 Yes, and almost all the artists on youtube I watch always recomend the prismas and I'm like ooo I want to try them! But derwent lightfast or even the caran d'ache are more cheap and easier to find open stock than those 😭
Lightfast are my favorite (I am precious about them)
Yes! Just checked the bummed up the price of single prisma's to €2,34 at every color.. which is insane. And probably the reason Prisma colors are precious for me and I hardly ever use them.
I was able to snag the 150 set of Prismacolors for $48 a few years ago on Amazon when they were trying to reissue them with better quality control. I've heard a couple people say they paid $300 for that set a long time ago. 😬
I am still waiting for mine to come in the mail! Said they will be to me by May 4th! I got mine for $116 Thanks again Lindsay for another amazing review! You truly are inspiring! I would love to color and chat with you one day. I seriously could listen to you talk all day!
I'm working on a real time pencil less for RUclips now so you will soon get your wish 😆
I'm looking forward to it! I can't wait! 😄
Thank you for the excellent review and for the comparison with Coloursoft. It is always great fun to try new pencils!
I love my Coloursofts I have the full set. I originally bought the 12 tin then bought the rest, overtime, individually. I have just ordered a 24 tin of Chromaflow (got them at a great price here in the UK £24.99 cheapest I've seen) so am looking forward to trying them out. I had put myself on a new pencil ban but these have been calling me for weeks. Great review 🙂
The 24 set is a great limited palette!
I have arthritis and I do find the chromaflow slightly less comfortable to hold due to the thinness of the barrel, but the colour range in the full set is sooooo lovely I’m very tempted, even though I LOVE my lightfast set!
That's a good point. I hope someday they use a thicker barrel.
I bought some double-ended pencil extenders that I can use even on full-length pencils and it makes a big difference for my arthritic hands. The extenders have one end for thinner pencils and a larger end to fit thicker pencils. Since they are double-ended, the openings allow even a full-length pencils to fit and slide the extender as close or far away from the pencil point as desired.
I had gotten the colorsoft thinking it was similar to the chromaflow because I needed some more purple options and I really love the chromaflows. The coloursoft are not as soft (kinda don't like them tbh).
Glad chromaflows have more colors now, but I'll wait until the prices match up.
I am hearing that a lot. My coloursoft are older. I need to find out if they changed formulations.
Hullo Lindsay! Sometimes you just crack me up! You often say well I think this “X” but you might find a different result! I like how you allow your viewers to enjoy your videos and opinions but do not discount theirs if it is different from your own!
I have a cousin that has always disagreed with me about quality art supplies. She creates very beautiful artworks from the cheapest supplies, lovely crayon drawings with Crayola pencils. Now I believe that the Artist can use ANYTHING to create art, but how long it lasts is determined by the quality of your supplies! She has many faded or worn pictures that simply look not good, now she can scan newer artworks and print them out on good paper with ultrachrome inks and they are museum quality! The prints will outlast the original! I have even scanned a few of her older art and “revitalized” them and printed newer versions that look better than the original. Opinion is mine of course. Longevity is always a concern with artists if they care about their own artworks lasting more than their own lives. Maybe computers and scanning is one solution. What happens if files get corrupted? Operating Systems no longer access older files? I recently had a lady bring me CD’s she could no longer open! They were older Macintosh formatted disks and the program she saved the files in was ClarisWorks! Well if I had not had an older machine that still worked she would have been in a LOT of trouble. I let her come over and move everything to a new external hard drive with generic file types, If she would have had to pay for it? I believe I looked it up 4 or 5 years ago and Data recovery started at $300 an hour! Just goes to show you better know how to create and save your artwork no matter how you create it! Sorry I ran on and on again. I do hope that your family is safe and doing well.
Some high quality expensive supplies fade too like Copic markers.
@@thefrugalcrafter I guess it all comes down to buyer beware and I was always taught that Gouache was NOT permanent! but in today's market it has the same pigments that most other paints have and are many just as permanent as any other light-fast paint! I lost count of how many pictures my supervisor just tossed in the trash after they were photographed! Times change and as popular as markers are most are NOT a permanent art medium. Dye's VS Pigments same in many inkjet printers!
The price came down Christmas 2022: $70.45 for 72 set
Thank you Lindsay. I have the Coloursoft and my husband offered to add to my already too many FSS pencils for my birthday and I thought of Chromaflow but now I’ll keep to my Coloursoft. Great review.👏🙏🌹
I got this set for $94.19 on Amazon!!! Since then the price has gone up again but I’m so glad I got the set for less money!! ☺️
I like Chromaflows also, but I can wait for the price to come down. I’m very blessed to have Artist, Coloursoft, Procolour and Lightfast, so I’m good for waiting awhile. P.S. I love my Derwent pencils! 😍 Thanks for educating me about curating my collections. I have 89 Artist and 88 Lightfast. Loving it, all the colors I want and no FSS🤣
I live the derwent drawing pencils. Only 24colours but beautiful.
Love! Autocomplete hates me.
Exactly! I have the 24 Chromaflow and the full set of Coloursoft. I haven’t used my Coloursoft as much, since I bought the Chromaflow. I had been utilizing the portability of the 24 set, but I have started using them at home more. I had planned to put my 24 Chromaflow in the same case as my Coloursoft pencils thinking they would likely work well together. I have been having problems with hand pain, and was thinking about getting a full set of the Chromaflow, but I too think they were a little overpriced. Thankfully, I watched this review and realized I doing need them. I will likely buy a set for my teenagers, when the price goes down a bit, since they seem to like the Chromaflow pencils too.
What’s the difference between chromaflow colourtsoft and procolour ? I use prismas and love them haven’t bought new set thinking luminance or chromaflow depending on how much I want to spend. Also does chromaflow have French grays?
Amazon just announced a 5% surcharge to sellers . That will most likely be passed on to their customers as many small businesses operate on a small profit margin. Also announced by Amazon - increases in their prices to cover increased fuel cost and higher inflation. It’s a coin toss as to whether prices on the Chromaflow and other items will go down. Thank you for the review. This looks like a wonderful set . Seems like the Chromaflow are a fabulous replacement for Prismacolor Premier. I have always had a love/hate relationship with my Prismacolor. Love the buttery soft cores and the wonderful color options. Definitely could live without the split barrels, shattered cores, etc. purchasing when on sale for about $70 for 150 set did make the problems more tolerable.
Yes, they are popular because of the price. We can overlook some things when they are under .50 a pencil.
Oh the Want Monster is creeping up behind me....🦖
Same here. But mine is small and furry and wants a treat.
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I love the formula of the chromaflow but wish they had the same body type as the rest of the derwent range, I'll stick with building out my lightfast collection since I can't see the chromaflow faring well openstock all the way to Australia 😭
Thanks Lindsay. Love your reviews.💜
I saw that this was going to be released and I'm hoping it's still available when I'm no longer as broke later this year. :-( I'm looking forward to buying a set!!!! Thanks for the review.
It's wise to wait as I think the price will drop. I think it's kinda high now because so many people want them.
I just got a 24 pack for $35. They're coming tomorrow. The only Derwent pencils I've ever used are the Inktense. Counting on the Chromaflow to blow Prismas away as far as overall build quality.
I'm all done getting excited about colored pencils. I have over 70 sets and I've lost my excitement for buying them over the years. They sit on my shelves and collect dust. I was all in on the coloring craze and I've since moved on to mixed media. You don't need to be so precise and perfect with mixed media. There's much more artistic freedom.
Wow, I guess you are all set:)
thank you i have so many pencils ,i dont draw alot i paint more but im teaching my self faces and my 12 set of chromaflow do help me with eyes and lips .much easier than watercoloring with a brush,i put the 12 set of polychromos in my cart i have to say videos do intice my buying at times ,
Thank you. I have the colorsoft and was considering the chromoflow, so you saved me some money. I really like derwent pencils but they have so many different ones, it's confusing. Thank you
Glad I could help!
What an amazing artist you are!
Thank you:)
Today was my lucky, lucky day. Driving cross country to see my dad and stopped by the Blick mothership in Galesburg, IL. I found a set of 72 for $40. 😁 The tin has a little scratch but I’m ok with that for 55.5 cents/pencil!
Good deal!
Thank you so much for sharing my next impulse buy 🙋🏽♀️🥰😘 Lindsay ‼️
I think you made me fall in love with a colored pencil. Must have! Thanks for the great review, you enabler, you. lol
They go on sale on Amazon regularly, got my set half price during the Black Friday sales. I like them when I don't feel using the expensive ones lol
Beautiful pencils. I always appreciate your reviews.
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Question- You've stated the 24 set blends well for a useful color range. If you were to 'round out' that set with a few open stock, which colors would you recommend as most versatile? Thanks for the review, Lindsay.
A mid and dark grey, a deep dark red. Maybe some pastels.
Great update, thanks Lindsay!
Thank you for sharing the pencils.
I find Coloursoft to feel a bit chalky, if that makes sense. While I love the colors, I quit using them because of that feel. Maybe I need to try them again on their own. I used to use them with Prismacolor in the same work. I'd love to try the Chromoflow, but am waiting for a price drop.
I wonder if they tweaked the formula of coloursoft since I bought mine a few years ago. Mine are smooth and opaque. Not scratchy or chalky at all.
@@thefrugalcrafter I bought mine maybe four or five years ago. I wouldn't say they were scratchy at all, which is why I wasn't sure about using chalky. I just played with one again. Does powdery but still soft make more sense? They feel softer than Prismacolor, but somehow not as fragile.
@@thefrugalcrafter how many years is 'a few?' I am wondering if mine are as old as yours.
I find my set chalky as well, not fun to use at all. 😖
@@traciesawrey9084 It may be because I used mine beside Prismacolor Premier, which are very creamy. I'm going to give them another shot soon.
Do you Premiers also?
love the cat in these colored pencils!MEOW!!
I bought these on your recommendatiom and can't wait to play with them. The set of 72 arrived today and while the pencils themselves look fine, tips are all intact and no cracks, the tin was dented very badly. Do you think if they have internal cracking I can try the same tips used for Prismacolor Premier pencils, like using a heating pad, laying in a sunny window, and most drastically microwaving? Or do you think I shouldn't take the risk and just return them?
I've noticed, like you, that Amazon has been battering my pencils they ship to me. They're not even putting mine in bubble mailers, just those think plastic bags. I've ordered 3 full sets of different Derwent product lines in the past 2 months and each one arrived banged up. I've returned and somehow their replacements arrived safely even though still in the terrible packaging. Thank you for everything you do for us!
That's up to you. I'd try them and see how they are. If the dented tin bothers you you could contact Derwent with a photo and they will advise what to do. They my want to exchange it just ship a new tin. I'm sure they would like to know the state their pencils arrive in. Mine came via boat from Derwent PR for work and the pencils for shifted in the package but we're fine. Derwent stands behind their products so if they don't sharpen well they will replace them.
@@thefrugalcrafter Thank you!
Another awesome review,thank you 👍💖
Thanks for the review!
I've got my set but haven't had a chance to use them yet. I wonder what the tendency to wax bloom will be, if it'll be as acute as it was with Coloursoft.
As for the benefit, there's colours in the Chromaflow set that are new to Derwent.
thanks for a great review! for the casual artist who has a full set of the prismaclors, do you think these are necessary? I don't want to buy another set that just kinda sits on my shelf!
Not unless you are having problems with your prismacolor. The cores are very similar.
I want a chromaflow 72 colors. 😻😻😻
Excellent review, as always, Lindsay :) I have a few Coloursoft pencils, and I love their more unusual colors, but the only thing that keeps me from buying more is that mine break very easily. I'm curious to see how the Chromaflows turn out in that regard.
I had an idea. Can clutch pencils / lead holders be used to hold the broken tips of colored pencils? My Prismacolor 3.0mm and Brutfuner 3.3mm break very frequently, so I got the idea to not waste the broken bits by using a clutch pencil to grip them.
Potential probelm and solution: Would leaving a piece of graphite lead inside the clutch pencil prevent the waxy colored pencil from slipping inside the clutch pencil?
After some research, I'm focuing on the Faber-Castell TK9400. I've read that the 4B-6B range comes in a 3.15mm size, which might fit. What do you think?
I recommend glueing the leads back in the pencil with super glue
@@thefrugalcrafter Thanks. Hmm...what happens when you get to the part where you glued it? I assume it won't color correctly at that point. Do you just cut off the glue?
You sure kept that secret well. I knew you knew and I couldn’t get you to let it out of the bag. Lol. I purchased both the pro color and color soft this past year and paid $109 for each and that was waiting for the price to go down (just a little). I think I’m going to wait on these. It sure is hard to find any lightfast on any product on their site. I still can’t find any.
I hope my lightfast chart I printed is accurate! I downloaded it on my phone when I first saw it and when I went to find it on my computers I couldn't! So I printed the save file on my phone. Odd huh?
I bought a set of the 24 set and immediately didn’t like them. I don’t even know whether I liked the performance I couldn’t get past how small they were. If felt like they’d cheaped out, made a child’s coloring pencil and were testing the waters to see if we’d buy it. Looks like we did since they’ve come out with the 72. Like when you go to buy a half gallon of milk only to find they’ve upped the price and are now selling it in 3/4 gallon containers. It’s being done to us to much, every time I go grocery shopping I’m seeing it. Then when I saw these pencils I was so disgusted I threw them in my closet and never looked much at them again. I did try them on paper a little. But I felt ripped off.
I'd give them another chance. They are great over marker in a limited supply art bag. I think they are expensive now for what they are but will drop once the demand dies down. I too wish they were thicker to support the soft core.
Hi thanks for your videos. Always so informative! Question: how would you describe the overall palette of the 72 set of Chromaflows? I already have the 72 set of Coloursofts and I consider them to be a bit muted especially compared to Prismacolor. If the Chromaflow is supposed to be like the Prismacolor, is the Chromaflow palette brighter than the Coloursoft palette? Thanks, Henrietta
I think they are very vibrant. I also think the coloursoft are too. I watched them out so you can see how the range looks.
Thanks Lindsay. It sounds like I will be okay with skipping this set because I already have the Coloursoft set, unless I notice some unique colors!
@@henriettajackson6404 they are open stock so you can buy any individual colors you want:)
Question: Were your original ones the same exact barrel colors and numbers as the full set? Mine were not. My original set purchased just after they hit the US have no double zeros and the the metallic band is slightly darker on the original. Also five of my new pencils were not the same colors. My blue 13 was two shades lighter than my blue 1300, and four others were a shade off. I suppose they could have updated for the full release, it just caught me by surprise. They color exactly the same. Pretty sure my art store did not sell me knock offs. I was wondering if anyone else compared their old colors swatched next to their new. Still, very nice pencils, but a bit pricey.
I think they added the 00 because they needed more numbers. When they first came out they had no plans to expand beyond the 24 but they had tons of requests for a larger line. Im not sure if they have changed the numbers over from the smaller set. The quality is the same from my experience.
Great video as always 👍
I have coloursoft and find them quite dry compared to Prismas.
If chromaflow and coloursoft sets were combined would you get a better colour range or are the colour pallets very close?
You could add more layers by combining sets as the chromaflow are softer and will stick on top but I don't think the color ranges are different enough to warrant getting a full set of both unless you want them. You could purchase colors you want to augment your Coloursoft set with tho.
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Thanks for this you have saved me some money😉
It's just prismacolor are so frustrating with the breakages, and they aren't cheap pencils. I am heavy handed and not a layering colourists so alternatives are few and far between.
Your reviews are so informative and helpful thanks again.
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I have a small set of these (12 pencil set). Two pencils had broken leads. Other than that I think these are very nice. Today I saw on Blick that open stock chromaflow pencils are $0.83. I think that’s a decent price. EDIT 01/02/2024 is the date I saw the price.
Thanks for sharing!
@shadowguard3578 I just checked Blick's and the Chromaflows are going for $2.08/pencil now! That is quite a jump in price! It looks like if you buy at least 12 of them, the price lowers to $1.63/pencil. I had to "run" to Blick's website when I saw you said the pencils were $0.83! :)
@@margwong8416 wow, the price has more than doubled!
Great information as always. Is the plum Michael’s class available anywhere?
I have a time lapse of it on my channel. Since it was a paid class only registered students got a recording. I did a pair if peaches in Critique club using similar techniques tho.
@@thefrugalcrafter Oh perfect! I'll check out the peaches. Thanks!
why did Chromaflow package different with 72? so it looks just like Prismacolor packaging would be my answer
I think that's why. They did 12 wide boxes for 12-36 and 24 wide or the others I think to ease the transition from prismacolor customers. I prefer the 36 wide tins because it's fewer trays to have out at once.
@@thefrugalcrafter Nice to meet you. Long time fan here. First comment. So many people don't reply its a breath of fresh air you did. enjoy your day
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I guess I just have a bad batch of color soft but mine has little pigment and is almost transparent on black paper while my chromaflow is highly opaque. Because I hear so many raves about the Colorsoft and I've been doing art for over 30 years. 🤷♀️
That's odd. Where did you buy them?
At Michaels
Hi.. thanks for the review! I have a full set of colour soft. I feel that they blend well but the pencil doesn’t hold a point at all. I don’t want a firm dry pencil either and really want to try prismacolor. I am just worried about the breakage issues that everyone keeps talking about. Do you think that derwent colorsoft would be better than prismacolor? Or they are both similar to coloursoft so I shouldn’t bother. In my country’s price range I can either get the 72 colorsoft, the 72 lightfast (a bit more expensive) or the 150 prismacolor (the most expensive).
Honestly I wuld stick to the coloursoft as they are almost as soft as prismcolor but more sturdy and highter quality. The Chromaflow are more sililar to Prismacolor as they are softer but the lead wears down fat like a coloursoft. If you can afford it I'd go for the Derwenrt Lightfast. The are a bit firmer but not hard or dry and they are wonderful!
@@thefrugalcrafter thanks a lot for your reply. I think I will save for the lightfast. They are actually less expensive than prismacolor in India and a little more than the chromaflow.
@@ritanyasurenu432 you will be very happy with them!
Hi Lindsay. I recently got an email from Amazon suggesting the Derwent Artist Colored Pencils 72 set - just wondering if you have/use them and where they rate in the Derwent collections? Are they similar to Chromoflow or ProColor or more of a student set?
They are the largest range of colors Derwent offers at 120 pencils. I have a set but I have not gotton around to reviewing them yet. They are harder than chromaflow or coloursoft. They are a professional set.
@@thefrugalcrafter - Thank you
like i just bought the 24 pack and couldnt find a bigger pack and then they GET HERE AND EVERYONE HAS A BIGGER PACK. i cant affooooord
edit: god youre an amazing artist
Keep using the 24 set. It's a really well balanced set.
there seem to be very few greens - is that right?
There are 10 if you count pastel and muted greens.
I tried ordering these pencils from Derwent, because it’s a better price than Amazon. Derwent won’t accept the United States as my country. What should I do?
Huh, that's odd. I think the ship to 🇺🇸 I'd contact customer service and see if they are restricting the product. I know they released it to UK first and I couldn't post about them until today.
Is there any way you could share that sheet saying which color is in what set?
I'll ask my contact at Derwent if I van. They took it down so their might have been an error on it so I don't want to share it if inaccurate.
Lindsay, this is a related question to this topic. I ordered the Jarlink electric pencil sharpener from Amazon you reviewed & I'm very pleased it says you can use the automatic sharpen feature OR you can sharpen for less time.
But I'm a little concerned bc it says not to sharpen wax pencils. Most of the wax pencils are the self sharpening type anyway but there is no contact info to ask if soft color pencils sre ok. Do you have any idea?
Ive heard it suggested to sharpen graphite pencils occasionally to help clear out the color pencil from the blade.
I think they mean China markers when they say wax pencils. I have been using my Jarlink for all my colored pencils except pastel.
Oh no, now that darn ‘want monster’ is rearing its head again. 😂 Lol!
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Well, they are not only difficult to sharpen to a nice point,but they break A LOT, poor quality wood, it’s not just me saying this, they break much more than Prismacolor, they don’t layer as well and they COST DOUBLE. ALSO they are not available open stock, I watched other reviews and checked for open stock on their website and Dick Blick, not available. Maybe in the UK where Prismacolor is more expensive,these would be a better choice,but the quality is definitely not as good all around.
They are open stock on the Derwent site and the price will be in line with prismacolor once they have been out a bit. If you are getting breakage I recommend contacting Derwent customer service for replacements.
@@thefrugalcrafter Available open stock in UK but not in US. And as I said I talked to other professional artists, they have excessive breakage issues. The price being just about double of Prismacolor,how can it get in line with them?
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Tangle…. Is the verb… “Zentangle” is a copyrighted label for the process established by Zentangle, Inc. and is NOT a verb… Important to respect this difference.
That's just part of how our language evolves. Most of say Xerox instead of photocopier, Crock Pot instead of slow cooker, Band-Aid, Jacuzzi, Q-Tips, Tupperware, Chapstick, etc. You can't control how others use it.