Adoptive Parents kick out adoptive Child and are now forced to pay child support
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I’m sorry. This comment will probably be deleted but them two don’t deserve to have children. YOU decided to adopt these children which makes you responsible for their wellbeing, behaviour etc. If these children were born with issues due to the biological mother being addicted to drugs or alcohol & the children have behavioural, mental or physical issues due to that, that’s NOT THIER fault. But it is/was YOUR responsibility to raise these children, show them love, kindness teach them manners & respect but YOU failed & YOU discarded these children like they were trash because they didn’t live up to your expectations. You both should be ashamed of yourselves. Thank god for Ms Powers for taking these boys in & showing them love & kindness. Please don’t adopt anymore children & I hope no adoption service would ever let you adopt again
Why would you think it would be deleted. We don't do that here ...
@@courtarchives hey, I didn’t know that. I commented on another video and said what I thought and my message was deleted within minutes (not one of your videos). I thought all RUclips pages deleted comments if they weren’t “nice”.
Thank you for the work you do with these videos. It’s appreciated.
I think adoption helps no one except the State. Never take in someone else’s problem.
100% hun
@@Kayleigh169Yeah, I've had a lot of comments disappear as well. I think 99% of the time it's due to RUclips's automatic system rather than the page creator. It's ridiculous the level of censorship that's occuring, be it words you can't type or words creators can't speak.
"Am i supposed to tell my 16 year old to get a job"
Well, you Told your 16 year old to move out, so was that an easier conversations?
Excellent point
Of course because the one he kicked out was nothing more than an extra paycheck for them😭
What's wrong with their 16 year old getting a part time job?
16 he can take care of himself.
@@pippylongstockings8600 my youngest son is about to turn 16 this summer and I couldn’t imagine kicking him out to fend for himself!! A 16 yr old is a CHILD. Getting a part time job to help out is one thing, taking care of themselves out on their own is another
Came for the comments and they do not disappoint. These parents need to reevaluate their life choices, starting with parenting, business/financial practices, integrity, and displaced anger.
if your business can’t stay afloat then it’s time to end it and get a job that pays for your kids’s expenses. That’s how the world works.
Adopted children are often troubled. You have to put a lot of work into their mental health. Otherwise, they might act out. Not ALL of them, but many.
Who the hell let them adopt?!
So they had no problem taking $900 a month for him, for 13 years, but doesn't want to pay $700 a month for even TWO years. Im only 4 minutes in and I'm absolutely disgusted.
They should never been allowed to adopt the second and third child after kicking out the first.
16:12 “How do we buy school clothes for them? Do we just go tell our 16 year old [bio child] she has to get a job to but school clothes now?” What about your sixteen year old son who you kicked out?! Buying school clothes is not ANY of the children’s responsibility! How about you put their needs ahead of your dreams and get a job??
My thoughts at the halfway point: If the children needed more support than the parents could provide and the parents could not afford to care for the children’s basic needs without a stipend, they should have gone for PMC, not adoption, so they could continue on state insurance and have access to services for foster children. I truly don’t think adoption should be preferential to PMC, because it makes it so much harder on the kids when their adoptive parents turn out to not be up to the task (I’m being very generous in my wording here). It sounds like the guardian is doing all the work of a foster parent without any of the support or resources the boys would get if they were under a PMC or otherwise placed with the current guardian by the department, and that’s not fair to the child or guardian. Ugh, I hate this situation all around
These people seem to adopt for money. But when the children become "a problem" they throw them away
How in the world is the judge speaking to them so calmly? These children😢
If they adopted him at 3, everything his learned and how he's conducts business is THIER FAULT! Make them pay thats thier child.
She almost said Kadin is a grown man. Did you catch that?
Are you telling me they had this kid for 13 years? I was outraged when I thought this was just the I'm adopting the kid and then not wanting to be a parent. But this is even worse, that's the only life in home he's ever known and this is the second time they've done this crap? Subhuman
7:52 you were receiving $900 to take care of your child you adopted and legally are responsible for. Now, just like any parents who don’t have sole custody…you owe child support for that child you legally adopted.
Sounds like the business is taking off and doing better then they're saying. They must not n3ed the extra $900 anymore
When you adopt for “Virtue Signaling” and not for love.
Some people should never be parents....case in point.
Perhaps cps should prevent these two from fostering or adoption! Could always get a job!
Im adopted myself. I can assure you the the state nor the local authority does not prepare the adopted family or give any support to the child on how to properly adapt to the new family unit. Its hard both ways - the parents dont make a natural bond and the child is in distress because they do not recognise any familar (emotionally and physically) people around them. We bond with our mothers no matter how shit they are. Taking that away causes an immense amount of turmoil for the child. People are wildly unprepared for this. Something as simple as an open honest group therapy would work. In my experience taking on the child and expect them to behave as if they're biologically their's isn't working. Same can be said when people adopted as babies, all the turmoil comes out as teenagers because the trauma of being removed from the mother is internalized due to not being able to vocalise the trauma. Wish we could do more. This could have been avoided at a relatively low cost and a bit of compassion.
Unreal.
No if your child isnt there you. Dont. Get. Support
The judge is so level headed & understanding through all this.
But for me, it is a red flag when they say, its the 2nd kid they kicked out. On top of the fact that they had this child in question was with them since 3 yrs old, and have been with them for atleast a decade.
Uh, telling a 16 year old to get a job is not the end of the world, it's actually good for them in many ways to start their first job around then.
I was adopted when I was almost 3 years old and this was one of my biggest fears for my entire life; the fear of my parents getting tired of me and giving me up or just plain sending me back. I was also troubled and had emotional issues and just was terrified that they would reach the end of the rope and just give me up. Thankfully, I have the best parents in the world and they promised me over and over again that that would never happen, that I was theirs until the end of time. These people should be ashamed of themselves. Don't adopt a child if you are not in it for the long run.
It’s so disturbing that people who chose to take on the responsibility and privilege of raising a child could ever send them back or reject them in any way. It’s like ripping the floor out from under someone…a vulnerable child at that! It makes me ill! I’m so glad that you were finally able to settle and know that your family is forever! It breaks my heart that you lived with such a terrifying thought/fear. I once told my Mother that I wanted new parents and my mom said “ok” and walked out if my room.I was in the 1st grade and I remember for a week after every time school would end and the principal would announce the names of the kids whose parents were there to pick them up I would shake with fear thinking that she would announce my name and my “new parents “ would be waiting for me. I was a bus rider! That is a core memory and it was terrifying but it’s nothing compared to what you went through and not for just a week. I wish you the best! Take care.
What is disturbing is that you can't see both sides. @@catherinewilson9894
I'm so glad to hear that you have wonderful parents, what a hard thing to deal with as a child. you've come so far :) ❤
This is so sad, I would just agree to send something a certain amount for the child outside of having to go through the courts, sounds like they just got rid of him since he is troubled and this is crazy.....to adopt then kick the kid out or wash your hands if u wash your hands sned the check that's the least u can do...poor kids
I’m adopted too. It’s a tricky road but I too was lucky to get parents who are with me through thick and thin~ and I’m not always easy to deal with.
The "mother" is appalling. She had him since he was 3 years old, yet she talks about him as if the child is some kind of interloper, destroying her "real" family.
Good comment to see because it reinforces my estrangement from the mother that called me an intruder for needing help while i was sick. ✨️
That's what pisses me off. She talks about her adoptive kids as if they're different from her bio kids. And then wants to know why her adoptive kids feel alienated and acting out. If she couldn't handle special needs kids she shouldn't have adopted them. Just the fact that she talks about them like they're a problem instead of real human beings sickens me. And then she goes further and tries to blame Ms. Powers for taking them in. And I don't believe her when she says Kadin ran away. I think she freaked out and kicked him out. I hope they're never allowed to adopt again. They don't deserve those kids.
3??? Ma'am you raised that kid! There's way more nurture in there then nature at this point if he's rude its because he learned it from someone. I couldn't imagine who!
@@jessicaarmstrong5035Sorry not sorry. either or is those two parents could work outside of the home if their business is under water. Like I had a creepy job when I was younger so I worked a second job and when my daughter had medical bills I added a third Wah wah those parents are disgusting
Both parents!!! Not just Mom. BOTH just as shameful as each other
First thing that struck me was they speak of their biological children differently than their adoptive children. That speaks volumes.
After 13 FUCKING YEARS TOO
Bad parents that treated their adoptive kids as renters the moment they stopped being cute kids. Then they are surprised the kids that grew up essentially without parents have problems.
Simply disgusting adoptive kids are your kids. Don't adopt until you're ready for that. If the kid has troubles then get them help don't kick them out.
“Our family” and “our home”.
My step-dad speaks about me the same way. Trash parents. Also, how you gonna adopt a kid and not be able to do basic math?
1000%!! These poor kids were just a paycheck to them. So so horrible. Kids deserve a loving home and loving parents. Just horrific. 💔
It's weird that they had the child from the age of 3 and they still don't consider him as part of the family. Why didn't they seek help for the child?
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for real. this is so bizarre.
They just saw a pay check
All about the money ---imo 😢
If they adopted from the state; usually they state offers the help they need. They just have to ask for it.
This couple should be BLOCKED FROM EVER ADOPTING ANOTHER CHILD.
THEY ADOPTED HIM WHEN HE WAS 3? THEY RAISED HIM FOR 13 YEARS???? ITS THEIR FAULT FOR THE WAY THIS YOUNG MAN IS.
that gets into the nature versus nurture argument. I'm sure there is some connecting dna, his bio mothers prenatal treatment, his first three years treatment. No adoptive parent can be assured that the child they adopt will be normal. That being said, I question the adoptive parents motive and stability.
They way they speak about “their daughters” and “their family” makes me realise these boys were not treated as being part of that family. This is disgusting. They’re legally your kids.
I noticed that, too. What a Karen!
Exactly!!!
thanks for pointing it out, it's terribly disturbing.
those boys sound very aggressive and violent. That why people need to be very careful when adopting a child. I won't adopt because I don't know the child back ground and I be to scare that the child will turn on me and my family. I seen many family kick their own child out the house when their child become violent or very hard to control. I feel sorry for adopted family.
@@EricaEarththat child is still their responsibility though. If they didn’t do the proper research and learn how to be trauma informed and seek the appropriate help and services it’s not the child’s fault and they just wash their hands of them oh well not my kids anymore. Disgusting. When you adopt a child you are making a commitment to be their parent.
These two seem to be under the impression that adopted children are disposable.
They are the money safety net
They just see a check for the child, they’re professional losers who don’t work and want to make money without any effort, aka adopting children and getting a check from the gov
really perhaps trying living with someone who assaults you and your family on a continuous basis before saying disposable, biological or adopted no famiily should put up with assaults.
Why not?
They tried to give a home to a child that somebody else could want..,it didn't work. Let's all take a moment to think about the Republicans Banning abortion across the United States...hmmm what other plans for all those 1.2 million children forced to be born but nobody wanted
@@LHLK-q2vthen get him into therapy. You signed paperwork and made him your child, people aren't disposable.
The IRS needs to audit immediately. They have been defrauding the government by padding their expenses for years. The rules for expenses with a home office are very strict.
"The rules for expenses with a home office are very strict."
Said no accountant ever.
@@_PatrickOincorrect. used to be , actually a big audit trigger. Following the pandemic and the mass movement to working from home they have lightened up considerably on scrutiny.
@@jkd1975 exactly. I was audited once and he told me I was one of the only people he has audited that didn’t end up owing money with interest. I never once had an audit for a brick and mortar business in all of my years, but within 3 years of a home office was flagged and audited. He was actually a really nice, very intelligent person. Not at all what I expected from an IRS audit lol. He said he was thrilled because I kept meticulous records and didn’t just hand him a shoebox full of wadded up old receipts lol.
They were falsely claiming their wages to get SSI for the kid. They could owe more.
@@annabrahamson4320there is nothing in this video to even suggest that.
My parents adopted me at 6 months of age back in 1960. They then adopted my brother and went on to have two biological babies. Unfortunately I was a pretty rotten teenager because of trust issues. I caused them quite a bit of grief. But they never would have thought of giving me up or given me back to the adoption agency. Never! I’m thoroughly disgusted with this couple.
I hope you hug and tell them you love and appreciate them, I was treated like my parent adopted me but I was actually birthed by her no hugs or I love yous I I now know I would start arguments to get attention, you're blessed so glad you know this
All teens adopted or not are trouble. Don't feel bad just give your parents a big hug next time you see them and say thank you for loving me though it all. I'm so thankful your my parents.
Shame on you! I hope you're still not selfish. They didn't have to adopt you and you obviously didn't deserve them.
@@meggo329that's a lie and he absolutely should feel bad.
Did you physically threaten your mom or younger siblings?
The adoptive mom raised him for 13 years and he is out of control but yet the guardian has no issues. This is the second kid they have
taken in from this family.
Exactly. And the child is drug free in her home vs not being drug free in the adoptive home?? Suspicious.
This is pretty common actually, it's even more common for foster parents. They see children as a paycheck not as people.
So 3 adopted boys. 900 for each. That's 2,700 a month. 32,400 a year plus a hugh tax break. They were getting more money from the government than their business earned à year.
Adopting is their true Business
Their business earned money, there’s a reason they didn’t turn in their actual income tax and he made profit/loss statements. Not only that, he added his personal expenses into his business expenses to make it seem they aren’t making that much from the business. If they are selling over $350,000 a year, they have to have a higher profit margin that that! Even 20% profit would be significant! I’m sure they are making 30% profit or more!
They did not get 900 for each child, they got 900 for 1- for a time, that stopped.
@@newhorizon1355There was a second adopted child so they would have gotten support for that child who they no longer have as well. The woman said she had 3 adopted children so logically at some point they received adoption support for all 3.
Sounds like adoption for profit😢
Notice how the adoptive parents draw a distinction between the adopted kids and "our children"?
Yes sickening really
She never formed a bond she saw them as items that presented income. The adopted children lived with her for years and even then she holds no love for them
It is shocking how they repeat it like it’s not even a slip of the tongue. They obviously speak like this in front of them.
So, one of the adopted boys were adopted when he was 3 yrs old. Scary that none of the adopting parents seems to have any bond and love for him. Just hate and bitterness.
It's sadly very common.
Adoptive parents will fight the birth parents for custody, paint themselves as saviors and then treat the adoptive kids as different from their own. The minute they experience any kind of hardship they will whine about how their "real kids" are suffering.
Do not like adoptive mother. Pretty clear how she feels about the kid.
What im hearing is, the business is not successful, but they both refuse to get paying jobs...
financial responsibilities don't end because your business fails - the parents are just clueless
They seem to be bringing in a lot of money, but have a lot of expenses, too. They're not keeping good track of what are purely business expenses, and what are normal living expenses.
based on reviews i can see why it isnt... Justen Homer at Kigi Nursery
They increased their profit during Covid, so that is not really demonstrated. And they delayed the figures on the pretext of “taxes”. They are income-splitting. He can claim her as dependent for tax purposes. I guarantee she is not an official employee of the business. They are making enough to need to cheat on their taxes.
Omg I just looked up his Linkin he describes himself as a "passionate family man" @@annaro3702
You want to know who has PTSD? A child that was given up on twice… when you adopt a child they are your legal responsibility until the age of majority (18). I’m adopted and I cannot fathom what this young man and his brother are going through.
YES EXACTLY.
THIS!!!!! They just added to his issues, this is cruelty.
I can understand. I was adopted and this was always the underlying threat. They had a biological daughter and for as long as I can remember when we would have little kid spats she would be allowed to say I should be returned to the orphanage. When I learned at school one day what it meant to be a foster child, I ran home in tears and asked my mom if I was finished when I was 18. I’ll never forget age said, “No, we’re stuck with you for good.” To this day, when I sign my name, I feel like I’m an imposter, or I’m stealing their identity, and I’m 60 years old.
Yes!!!
They’re playing the victims Disgusting so called parents! She should get a job! And so should he!
As an adopted child, and now the mother of an adopted child, maybe I can answer their question.
You have to support your child because he is your child. Not your foster child, not some kid who lived with you. You adopted a child. When you did that, the judge told you, "It will be as if he was born to you." He. Is. Your. Child. You're responsible for him.
They need to pay child support. They adopted the child. Its their responsibility
Makes me wonder if they adopted to get the $900 from the state each month. If their business is that bad, they should go get JOBS!!!!!
They adopted the child at age 3 and had them for 13 years! Absolutely disgusting that they talk about this child like he's not even their child, much less their responsibility. I could understand this sentiment if you were taking a 17 year old foster child in and they were having behavioral issues, but this is crazy. My niece is adopted from the foster system and she moved in with them at age 3. She is my niece and my brother's child now, full stop. She had a very rough first three years, her biological dad was in prison for killing a cop, and her mom was/is a drug addict. No doubt she took significantly more parenting work than some other children, but she's a teenager who's doing wonderfully now because my brother and sister tried to give her everything she needed. They treated this child as an inconvenient paycheck. Disgusting.
Facts!
@@jackdanson2Her words about the “torment and torture” tells us all we need to know. 😞
Once you adopt the child you don't get that additional income from the state. My husband and I adopted a child at the age 11 and once the adoption is finalized the money stops. All we got for her was medical assistance.
They adopted him when he was 3? That’s literally your son, his behavior is a reflection of a decade of being in your care. They aren’t even upset about losing him and didn’t even ask how he’s doing…
Sadly that’s not true. Children can be and often are, harmed in the womb. Then add three years of neglect/abuse and you’ve potentially got a very disturbed child.
Either way, they adopted him, so they accepted responsibility of him
@@dragonmummy1 If the child was that messed up at the beginning it would have shown and they would have got out then. Ten years is a long time to decide that and it does look like it was nurture over nature.
If the child has FAS even birthparents can't handle the extreme cases. Was he even tested for this or a drug baby?
After seeing the reviews for their Buisness its clear something is off....
Justen Homer at Kigi Nursery
You don't adopt children and then just kick them out because you think they're disrespectful. This is the second one? They should be in jail.
People do- I see it often in my job…Always super sad for the kiddo.
What in the world were they thinking!? You cant just have kids and then get rid of them whenever you feel like it. 😧
Didn't she say he was physically and emotionally abusing the family?
@@em55527yes
@@em55527 so do biological kids some times but it’s harder to surrender your rights with them .
The adoptive mother said that the adopted boys would "escape." What were they trying to escape from is the question?
That’s such an odd word to use in this context lol. How do your children “escape” 😂…. Run away? Ok. Sneak out? Ok. Home past curfew? Ok. Escape ???? Escape from what
A lot of assumptions there.
It sounds as though the lady who took them in, guessed life was tough for them
"Escape" is a weird word choice
Slave labor at the family business
What is their reason for not even packing up the child's personal belongings and just providing those? Twice?
They said he ran away
@@rockulikeahurricanethey can bring his possessions to this woman’s house, but they’re petty and spiteful and 100% kicked him out.
@@rockulikeahurricaneThe lady taking them in said she had text to prove they were actually kicked out. I was hoping to read those so we could actually see what the truth was. I doubt she'd bring it up if they didn't really exist.
These parents definitely seem very untrustworthy and probably did kick them out but are claiming they ran away.
@@rockulikeahurricane So? You can pack his stuff and drop it at CPS or have it picked up
The mother is nuts. He is your son and has been for 13 years. Grow up and take responsibility
The guardian is similar. She said it wasn't a choice to take him in within one sentence, then calls it a choice based on her not wanting the kid in a group home in the very next sentence. I think she is trying to profit on taking kids in too. These people seem very similar.
Except that's not her son.
@@pearlsswine they adopted the child that makes him her child
@@pearlsswineyes it is they adopted him at 3 years old
@@_PatrickO I believe she meant, it wasn't her choice to take him in but it was her choice to keep him with her vs him going into a group home. Makes total sense.
"i cant handle this for my family"... Lady... You adopted him. He IS your family. You made the choice! This is ADOPTION not fostering.
This was about 900 per month.
@@brendapatt7712 BINGO! It was the gravy train until it wasn't convenient anymore.
Why does the state give money for adopted children? Of you can't afford the children.. you shouldn't adopt! They'd probably never adopted these children if it weren't for the money!
@@iloveschicken6527 agreed. But change the focus of that sentence... The kids would probably never be adopted if it weren't for the money.
It's not an ideal system, but families that want to help kids but may need financial support are more likely to help kids who need a home if the edges of the financial side of it are smoothed out. There are a lot of kids in homes because of these stimulus packages.
This is just a shit version of how that plays out.
@michaelcritter7933 I understand to an extent but.. These folks owned their own business and had a good income! If they wanted to adopt to save 2 children... You move into a smaller home, cut unnecessary expenses.. whatever! When you adopt, you take 100 percent accountability and responsibility for that child as if you gave birth to them! I need more info on this story. Did they adopt them to save them or were they looking to add more joy to their family? There's a difference! Did they know these boys? Doesn't sound like it. Sounds like they sought to adopt. If you seek to adopt, make sure you can financially and mentally take on that responsibility! If you are adopting to save a child that you know is in trouble is a whole other ball game! It's very obvious that when you adopt or foster in cases like this, there's probably going to be some trama issues with these kids! That's why they are in the system to begin with. They didn't adopt these boys from birth. But I see what you are saying as well.
Adoption is A PRIVILEGE...A PRIVILEGE THAT THESE 2 NO LONGER SHOULD GET !!!!
Not really. Adoption is a favor that you're doing for the child.
100 % is a privilege. Being a parent to any child is a privilege.
They have their own bio kids so no need to adopt.
@@pearlsswine there are thousands of perspective parents waiting for newborns. There is a “ infant shortage” adoptive parents will go lengths to obtain a child. They love to gain the biological’s mothers trust and then completely close the adoption.
@@pearlsswineyeah people that think that definitely shouldn't adopt. Kids don't deserve that. It's better to grow up in a facility than to have awful parents
Wow. Moms the victim here? What a cry baby. Shouldn’t be a parent.
She’s disgusting!!
Perfect example of people who adopt for the wrong reason. Using the monthly adoption stipend as personal income is why many people choose to adopt/foster. Using foster kids as a business is sick and disgusting! They should be forced at the very least to hand over this kids clothes and belongings. What were they spending the $900+ they were receiving every month from the state?
@@GrampiesCorner which they should have been to afford before the kids you f🎉king goofball. 😂
Some states give this stipend to allow a wider range of income people to be able to adequately support children they adopt. In an ideal world more families with their own adequate resources would step up to adopt the thousands of kids in foster care and they wouldn't need to include the stipend. Sadly, the vast majority of people who aren't willing to adopt (because the children do come with baggage) are very willing to talk about those that do.
Google "Cash for Kids." There are numerous reports about this situation. California was found to be the worst abuser for foster families when fostering became a thing.
@@GrampiesCornerand! What about those necessities? They have to live in that home as well right? They chose adoption and not foster care. This is the new “welfare “ system and you all are ok with that because you think these people really care about these kids they take on. But my bad, they don’t fit your narrative of what a “welfare queen “ looks like.
The government is jus as bad and set the standards. It's sick that DSHS, CPS, daycare centers, and school districts have been involved in child trafficking.
The Mom that opened her home for this teen is just gold!
no she is not. She stated she wants money end of story.
sarcasm? (Please be sarcasm)
@@BlueSkyPortalI mean she needs help. She’s obviously not made of money.
Amy Powers, not an easy job but I’m so glad you’re not letting these adoptive parents get away with this.
Thank you.
I have an adopted child. Yes she's put me through hell, smashed up the house, verbal and physical abuse for years. But she is my daughter and we've made it through. I have 2 biological children who love their sister. Relationships have been difficult at times, but I am so proud of all of them. My daughter, like every adopted child has early years trauma that comes back with a vengence during teenage years and my daughter was no exception. But she is now turning 21 and we are incredibly close. Adoption is definitely not for the faint hearted!
You are an incredible person. ❤❤❤
Yes adoption is traumatic even in best case scenarios. I’m glad that you took the role of parent seriously and supported and loved your daughter through her childhood.
God bless you. I was adopted and abused by the wife. Bad enough to cause permanent disability. May God give you and your family the peace that passes understanding and happiness beyond imagination.
@@emilyk6510 ❤️
@@br4524 ❤️
383,000 in expenses???? 34,000 profit!?🤔 Yeah you are living the good life and use tax codes to say you live off profit? But how is 383,000 spent??? Why didn't the judge ask this???? We all can see you live in a nice home,and play the victim!!!! Greed and Karma is coming for you.
He called it "living expenses" and specified house payments, etc.
COGS
Duh
Trump taxes
@@BaebaeW Biden is the president genius. Biden is in the fourth year of his presidency now. You have serious TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome). Get help.
You can tell the mother loves to play the victim. She is definitely unbalanced and needs psychological help
I thought the mom was the teenage son at first 😂
😂😂😂
Me too! 😁
Same
Same 😂
Me too
If you work year after year at a business and you don't make money, it is a hobby. There is no reason the state needs to support their hobby dreams. Parents are obligated to support their children.
Honestly, these “parents” are garbage and should probably be investigated further for fraud tbh
Absolutely. It's also a baffling position to stand behind 'i am too poor to pay for this kid.' Then, I guess we need new jobs and a better attitude
These people are scammers. Fluffing numbers to look broke. She's crying while the state pays her and the kid isn't even living with them? Our world is so effed up.
They're not getting paid for the child because he's not in the house...
The fact that they didn`t provide their complete tax-filings and returns from previous years, but rather some self-made sheets is sus....
@@Youre-Welcome I thought I heard they were receiving $900 a month from the state?
@@theacguy9546they were for 13 years then it stopped for the last 6 months or less from the adoption agency or state. Now TANF is paying the lady and her husband who has the child and the adopted parents don’t want to pay anything.
@theacguy9546 they stopped receiving it after the child left the home.
Respect for the lady who took the boys in after their "parents" decided it was too hard
When they behave like parents, and treat this child as their own, then they would deserve respect not before!
I have put my own parents through the ringer with my own drug addiction and autism and other issues. They'd NEVER have given me up for it. Never. It was hard, but they stuck through it. And we're closer than ever. I was not adopted, but that child who was adopted by this couple were still the PARENTS. full fledged parents. And rhey still gave up on him.
They adopted to recieve a monthly check. They tried to get rid of their payday and ended up having to pay him. Poetic Justice.
Exactly he was never their son just a pay check. They had to have known what they were getting themselves into. Clearly they never got him the help he needed from the start
The reason any State is willing to make child support payments for ADOPTED hard to place special needs kids is because they know the potential burdens adoptive parent(s) will take on. Guess what else is available? In home behavioral health support plans and help. Once I heard they had this kid since 3, I almost flipped a lid. "Mom" demonstrated she is a victim in a very narcissistic/Karen sense. Zero empathy for Kadin. Even if Kadin was a handful- all they had to do was ask the State for help through the years- even for therapeutic placement when needed. And, as adults get into therapy themselves. And, as for their own daughters- sorry: 16 is a very normal time to get a job for extra things, or to put gas in your beater car. Extremely normal in fact.
I agree with everything you said completely, I got my first job at 15 years old as a freshman in high school.
and your degree is from what university and what experience have you had
Apparently the 16 year old iis special needs so perhaps he can't work.
When having a business you both should be working full time jobs to support your household n your business. Maybe your business should be a side hustle.
"them kids", "those boys", "our kids", wow! they really didn't understand what adoption means. you can do something meaning well and being utterly ill prepared can make it go downhill fast.
Yes, but they did it 3 times and profited from IT until Mom got fed up and told Dad get rid of this one and let's get another one to fill in the financial gap. AND kept the kids clothes, toys/gadgets/sports equipment for each kid Jennifer took in? THEY used THESE kids for the money.
There needs to be a registry for abusive adoptive parents who failed their duty as adoptive parents!
Totally agree!
There should be mechanisms to hand back uncontrollable, impossible adopted children.
Notice how she said "My own children " the adoptive children are also her own children. I can't stand these people. All people who don't want their adoptive kids anymore should have to pay child support.
Yup she is a liberal for sure
She never looked at him as a son just a $900 a month pay check
Sounds like they only adopted to get an income from the state. Doesn't sound like they even tried to show any kind of love or compassion to the adopted children. My brother and his wife adopted 2 boys (both brothers) who are special needs at the ages of 10 and 7 and they are now 43 and 41....there were challenges over the first few years but they were never kicked out because of it we just worked through them. One of them is crazy about Legos, audiobooks, collecting pennies. playing video games and writing random information down in his many notebooks. The other one loves reading any book he can get his hands on, anything Star Wars or shark related, telling jokes (some good some not but we laugh anyway) and playing video games. They are awesome human beings because they got the love and support they needed to have a fair chance in this world they live in. My nephews are wonderful men today and can not imagine our family without them in it.
The judge was way too nice for those awful parents.
ABSOLUTELY. that Jude needs to find another area in law. Really judge why didn’t you show any emotion?
@@DiEppley-bu1jpbecause they are a judge …. The irony in you thinking the judge is doing their job poorly because they aren’t leading with emotion. SMH.
He has to make decisions based on the law and fact not emotion. Is it weird for you to see someone not being led by their emotions? If so maybe that points to a bigger issue.
@@DiEppley-bu1jpA judge should absolutely not use emotion in making rulings. This is how unjust and even incorrect punishments happen. His job to take his feelings out of it and focus on what the law says. These people are absolutely vile, but he is behaving as a judge should.
I do believe the couple was using adoption to make money. However, the judge absolutely was knowledgeable and fair. His rationale was sound. The state attorney was clueless about how this income works.
The audacity for the adoptive “mother” to tell Jennifer she chose to take him in as if they didn’t make the choose to ADOPT him 🙄😒
Lmao ikr she literally signed up to be responsible for this human until their adult life
Wow….they adopted this boy at age 3, now he’s 16 and because he isn’t perfect, they don’t want him anymore?? WTH? She talks about “Her children, her girls”…..he’s one of her children too!!!! DISGUSTING!!!!!!
They had him for so long it’s safe to assume they messed him up. He didn’t get this was on his own
@@doxoxo779Agreed. And even if the kid had some mental illness or was neurodivrrgent whatever- it's still THEIR responsibility to deal with behaviors and get the kid the help he needs. My brother is severely autistic/ profoundly handicapped and was pretty destructive in his teens. But my family stepped up and got him all the help, therapy & meds he needed. He'll never live alone, but today he is a big sweet teddy bear that everyone loves. He is living his best life and it wasn't easy to get him there. It took WORK. You don't just walk away from your kids when it gets hard- reguardless of the reason.
Honestly my phone had to stay on the bed so I could walk away.
I know right, they had a woman take in TWO of the children they adopted and seem to only care about their girls. People like this make me sick.
i was sure at first that this was a case of adopting an older child and changing their mind, not that that is ok but how they can have a kid from age 3 to 16 and not feel like he is "theirs" my heart is broken for Kadin.
These people are being less than forthcoming with their financials. They filed tax returns for 2020 and 2021 but did not provide them as requested. “Dad” seems to be pulling P&L figured out of his a$$. There should be no “commingling” of business and personal expenses. He doesn’t have an even preliminary accounting of his expenses for 2022? He’s running an online business w/o even the most basic software? What BS.
"She can't get a job because she's voluntarily spending all her time on something that doesn't make us any money."
Says it all, doesn’t it?
That couple = manure.
I wish the courts would hire a forensic accountant so the court can see what they actually make
These people are disgusting. When you adopt a child, that’s your child. Period. Would they discard a bio child? I guarantee they didn’t let these kids forget for one second that they were adopted. Shame on these ppl.
Probably told them they should be grateful too
If their biological child was acting out and/ or had psychological problems, would these parents abandon that child? What these people don’t seem to fathom is that they made a choice to adopt and by doing so, became legally responsible. Teen years can be so difficult, especially when a child has mental health issues. But washing your hands of that child is only going to make things worse! If these boys are functioning in their new home, doesn’t that say something?
That couple is giving off huge, "We're looking for a 6 bedroom with an inground pool, a studio, and a separate garage. Our budget is $36,000." vibes.
😂 😂
when did they provide therapy for THEIR child? He was a cash cow, nothing more
"i don't know what I make a year" What a great business owner. Some people are not cut out for self employment
Yet they filed taxes and didn't turn in those papers. 🤔
He does...just didnt want to say
They are lying!
So both parents work full time at this business but the business only makes a profit of 20k to 34k a year? That’s a 10k to $17k income per parent per year. Someone working full time making minimum wage makes $28k per year. If your business is leaving you with an income of less than half what a minimum wage worker makes working full time, you should probably leave your business and get a job because things obviously aren’t working out. These parents are either lying about their income, living off the money they get for the adopted boys or both. Either way these parents are scammers and the mother’s manipulative crying temper tantrum and storming off was just embarrassing.
Every time she says anything, she looks worse.
First it was that they cant afford to pay support for their child because shes working 60 hours a week at a home business that profits the family 45k or something.
Then, its that they are unable to discipline their adopted child that they've been raising since he was 3 and is now 16.
National min wage is $7.25 an hour.
Less then $16,000 a year
@@stephaniehowe0973 it also only applies if it's higher than a states minimum wage. Do you know what state they're from? Assuming you honestly wanted to provide some real food for thought.
@@skachor
Maine's min wage is $14.15.
I did that math on fed min. Which is $7.25
Yes 40 hrs a week 52 weeks a year is $29,000 here not everywhere
@stephaniehowe0973 yeah, that's why it came across as disingenuous
People who adopt children for $ must pay $ when they abandon the cash cow….uh, I mean child.
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I'm sorry 😅 the teenage daughter needs to get a job to buy school clothes, because they will be so poor....but the mom can't get a job??
Grifter
@@BelleFleurs1 Damn I didn't even catch that at first. Crazy!!!
Who hiring?
Sponging off kids, creeps.
EXACTLY!!! I’m like what?
That smug look on the “mother’s” face pisses me off to no end. YOU adopted HIM. He didn’t ask to be born or adopted. Also she’s so quick to anger
I think she's under the influence of something. I've never seen anything so low key psycho before. This case is unbelievable.
Well technically he swam like hell to get to the egg faster than all the others and when he was in the womb he was replicating all his cells to grow himself. The woman’s body doesn’t create the baby the baby creates itself.
The way she keeps shaking her head is infuriating. She's shaking her head over the kid coming to foster home with no clothes school supplies. They don't even say you are wrong we did deliver him with supplies. She doesn't have the emotional control to support her own children, let alone adoptive.
She’s narcissistic as fuck.
@@MrAzkushright like why not at least give him his clothes and things he needs for school
I bet these people are claiming their mortgage and living expenses as business expenses. Make the wife get a job!
I like that they said their daughter would have to get a job to afford school clothes but the wife can't possibly work
She doesn't want a job u can tell she runs the house and he has no say in it.
Your adopted kids are YOUR kids. I don’t know the day-to-day issues of this family with regard to their son, but if they refer to their biological children as “their own children” I assume they probably didn’t make the son who ran away feel like “their own.” He probably felt unwanted and that is why he acted out. …he is a special needs child, who became a special needs teen. What did the parents do assist with his special needs? I feel like living with these parents was too overwhelming for the sons who ran away.
This is why I am anti adoption and pro-choice. Now you have an unwanted child with special needs.
Crazy thing is this boy wasn't the first adopted child to leave. They are awful people.
Geez! Give the child his clothes and belongings!
Sounds like vindictive to me.
Top tier petty
Yeah very petty
THIS 👏👏👏
If you are looking to cut ties, give him his clothes and school supplies. That’s wild to me.
He probably does not have much. They sound like abusive people.
"Muh trauma" really lady????? How about the kids trauma that caused them to be so angry? Maybe you should have used the $ you got monthly, $2700, to get them help. 😒
I haven’t seen anyone mention this but what a Freudian slip by the “adoptive” mother saying that these kids escaped. Yes they did escape when you’re not being a good parent but you also are not allowing them to come back or do anything. To also say it’s bad that Ms powers welcomed them to their home, THANK GOD those children knew they had a safe space.
Good call I noticed that too. Crazy!
Did a double take when she said that.
20:34 the slip.
I don't think it was a Freudian slip but I get what you mean. She absolutely considers her power over them as a jailer would. Like a purchase, "it's" mine to do what I want with. I'm sure they lie/pad their expenses as well
chills 😮 especially in the aftermath of the Ruby Franke horror and the kid escaping there
Adopted mom and dad make me absolutely sick as a child of adoption.
Me toooooo!!!!
As a 52 year old, a mother of 2 ,I am disgusted by these parents. and they make me sick as well.
The woman is a special kind of B...
He was just a $900 a month paycheck. They should've gotten him the help from the beginning not waited until he couldn't be "handled"
Kids don’t run away from happy homes.
Yes they do. If they're selfish, damaged and uncontrollable.
Yes they do if their into drugs.
Or they have emotional needs that aren't being met. She can't even keep herself composed for court. She wants to be a victim. She also doesn't want to answer about income so she played victim and walked away and had her husband deal with it. It shows who fun's that family. He actually put his head down a few times like almost in shame
@@mhegland3271 they do if they're brattish and won't accept rules.
Guess what "mom"...
It's time to get a JOB!
They own Kigi Nursery
And a new hair cut😂
@@annaro3702obviously it’s not enough.
@@annaro3702nursery!? Oh lord. I wouldn’t want them in charge of any living being.
I'll bet his "expenses" includes a big pile of wages to the mother.
If they got this child at age 3, they had a lot to do with how he turned out. I think they need to STOP adopting.
Horrible to watch this adoptive 'mother' attack the good woman who is taking care of the child. Really looks to me as if these people adopted children because they wanted the money, not the children. Poor kids.
Exactly!!!
Children. She is taking care of 2 of their children.
I came to the comments to say this. 100 percent agree. Raising kids is very difficult so don't do it if you don't have the capacity.
Yep, I think they knowingly committed adoption fraud
Bingo
Oh my gosh, are you saying I could have done this when my parents kicked me out? They kicked me out when I was 15. They adopted me when I was six! I’d been taken out of the home twice. Once I had to go to a shelter because of they beat me up, and cut my Lakota hair!!! They claimed I loved my hair more than them!! so they took it, after beating me!! it took me over two years to be able to go back home after they took their parenting class!! They still ended up kicking me out!!! I emancipated myself at 17! But those few years before I could have really some financial help! They wouldn’t even get me a bike so I could get around, and I lived in Charleston! If I had known this was an option, I would have done it. Some parents should not adopt. When it gets hard, you don’t get to throw the kid away! We are Still your responsibility as a parent!!
You can't claim your full mortgage, 100% of your utilities, etc. as a "business expense"
I thought you could if you ran your business through your home . Or atleast a portion of it
You can, but there are rules about how much of a percentage you can claim as a business expense... And 100% isn't it. These people should not only be charged with child abuse and have an investigation started on 'their kids' but they should also be investigated for tax fraud!
Only a percentage based upon exclusive use of home for business purposes. The irs requires people to be able to provide records of proof if they question it.
@@sandysmith71you also shouldn't run your business account out of your personal bank account looks like they are trying to hide it
@@danielleburke87 I don’t have a business
Was their defense seriously “we’re poor and traumatized”???? What kind of defense is that???
It’s called “The Karen”.
Those parents are awful especially the mother
@@carltonwalton9819it's called narcissistic personality disorder and she's being a victim like all narcissistic they are never the cause of the problem
I wish judge Boyd was on this. She would have been straight in with “You need to get a paying job, these are YOUR children and you need to pay”
The way she speaks of her adoptive boys as separate to her own kids is disgusting.
That's why this judge was better, imo. He understood that her working outside the home could greatly impact what the family business is earning, thus making the overall amount lower than what is was previously.
And still ordered them to start paying support.
“Alright.” “Here’s the thing…” Here’s what we’re gonna do.” Lol. Love Judge Boyd (and her ever-present designer handbags)!
awwww poor mom being traumatised by those adoptive boys, my heart bleeds for her...NOT! Those poor adoptive boys being thrown aside like trash!!! Jennifer Powers is a remarkable woman taking the boys in and loving them. The adoptive parents should not have any kids!
But how else is she going to earn and income and be able to stay at home? The state paying for their adopted kids is the family's bread and butter!
@@oliviatree yup lol, at least these 2 kids ended up in a good home instead of locked in a box.
Were these adopted kids drug babies? I didn't see 1st video.
A lot of people with teenage boys have suffered worse with their sons eventually growing into respectfull decent adults. I can't sanction what they have done.
Shady parents. I'm glad the boys are out of their house
Me too
Interesting how as soon as Jennifer Powers began to talk about her experience taking in the boy the adoptive mother came right back in form her cool down and was already shaking her head.
It’s horrible that after 13 years, they still refer to him as an adopted kid. And after that long, they haven’t been able to love him like a real parent.
It’s so obvious those two goons who claim to be parents are monsters
It’s a business to them, he’s a job
And they wonder why the kids are mad and acting out. If that’s how she talks about him to other imagine what she says when no one is looking
Literally they say they talk about “THEIR daughters” vs the adopted boy
Yes! I was thinking they adopted a teen but when I heard it was at age of 3! 😳 that’s a toddler!!
They only adopted those poor boys for the money. Adoptive parents with this history should be investigated.😮😮😮
They were in this for the money. Full stop.
EXACTLY!!!
Of course they were. Just like all the people they scammed through their business at KIGI nursery!
They said they got a $900.00 monthly adoption benefit from the state. Hardly enough to feed, cloth, transport or house a child but it probably helps.
@@k.e.M_
So you think they adopted the 3 year old to grow up to be their nursery worker but he kicked holes in their walls instead? 🤔
I have no words. Beyond disturbing
This judge was very easy on the parents. He was too nice in my opinion.