I'm wondering if they considered letting prism tanks boost the towers and give them the shattering shot. Seeing how powerful prism towers are when they can do that, that would explain why they didn't.
You should test whether prism towers increase or decrease dps when they are connected. For instance, placing two towers together and attacking something VS placing two tower far apart and attacking something.
@@001010011100101110 I thought the same thing at first, but his suggestion has a point. Example of what he meant was: 2 prism towers together with combined single damage/DPS does 325 damage while 2 prism towers separate but has a same target does a total DPS of 335. It means, it is more practical to have 2 prism towers that are apart because of the higher DPS. What I want to know is, what's the maximum number of prism towers in order to reach the max damage combined? Likewise with the tesla tower + troopers combo.
@@johncrusade1270 Based on what I remember from RA2, 2 connected prism towers always killed what they hit, no matter how many HP it had. I once tested it on a pentagon part in the 6th mission, and the building was gone in an instant. In Yuri's Revenge, the instakill was not a thing against buildings anymore, but I think still against units (long time ago, I can't be sure). I was always annoyed by the targeting logic, the first tank coming in died immediately, but after that for some reason the prism towers decided to not link their second shot (and the second tank didn't die). Third shot was linked again, 4th wasn't, etc. In The Mental Omega mod, each tower linking with another increases the shot damage by 25%, so 1 tower linking with another one has 125%, while 2 towers separately do 200%. Overall, 8 towers can link with each other, and in the mod the linking logic has been improved. Additionally, linked towers have +1 range. The main point of the link mechanic is that you can defend multiple entrances with the same group of towers. A set of towers through the entire base will fire at tanks attacking from the left side, or the right side (for example). I know I got this wrong quite often, building 3 towers on the left side, and 3 on the right side, instead of making a link of 4 in total through my base.
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The best part of these apocalypse tank videos is the miku hatsune guy who tells everyone who says the word "apocalypse" to stop crying. My favorite part of reading the comments tbh
This is interesting, but I will add that, unlike some comparisons, this one has very little practical application. This is because you have to defend your base from all angles, whereas they can attack from any angle and thus take your towers on piecemeal. So, in reality, you would actually need far more prism towers than incoming tanks. The Apocalypse Tank is an absolute beast, and my favorite unit of Red Alert 2 by far. Even though I haven't played in many years, I find your videos interesting.
With the current war in Europe it makes me think about how some poor schmocks are sitting in their tanks 1000kms from here and await their death. All for the glory of their psychopathic kgb generals.
i will make a video with Elite Prism Towers, but 1vs1 not 100 v100 cause it's not possible to promote them in editing, map editor, etc... only on battlefield
@@GreenElf then how did you make theese 100 "elite" towers basicaly take last part of this video and redo it with Elite Apocs with crates.. or maybe I misunderstood
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The instrument of Doo 3:41 XD
lol
Holy crap. I bet they tried the prism scatter in development and realized it was too strong.
In Mental Omega, elite Prism Towers have Prism Scatter passive ability.
@@primisimperator2189 shit looking mod tbh fam
I'm wondering if they considered letting prism tanks boost the towers and give them the shattering shot. Seeing how powerful prism towers are when they can do that, that would explain why they didn't.
they pay the price by standing still
It's so intimidating when I face Prism towers because of their effects like the sound effects and the way the lasers goes up and then bang! Dead. Lol!
You should test whether prism towers increase or decrease dps when they are connected. For instance, placing two towers together and attacking something VS placing two tower far apart and attacking something.
Of course they do, this is the basic mechanics of prism towers.
@@001010011100101110 I thought the same thing at first, but his suggestion has a point. Example of what he meant was: 2 prism towers together with combined single damage/DPS does 325 damage while 2 prism towers separate but has a same target does a total DPS of 335. It means, it is more practical to have 2 prism towers that are apart because of the higher DPS. What I want to know is, what's the maximum number of prism towers in order to reach the max damage combined? Likewise with the tesla tower + troopers combo.
@@johncrusade1270 Based on what I remember from RA2, 2 connected prism towers always killed what they hit, no matter how many HP it had. I once tested it on a pentagon part in the 6th mission, and the building was gone in an instant. In Yuri's Revenge, the instakill was not a thing against buildings anymore, but I think still against units (long time ago, I can't be sure). I was always annoyed by the targeting logic, the first tank coming in died immediately, but after that for some reason the prism towers decided to not link their second shot (and the second tank didn't die). Third shot was linked again, 4th wasn't, etc.
In The Mental Omega mod, each tower linking with another increases the shot damage by 25%, so 1 tower linking with another one has 125%, while 2 towers separately do 200%. Overall, 8 towers can link with each other, and in the mod the linking logic has been improved. Additionally, linked towers have +1 range.
The main point of the link mechanic is that you can defend multiple entrances with the same group of towers. A set of towers through the entire base will fire at tanks attacking from the left side, or the right side (for example). I know I got this wrong quite often, building 3 towers on the left side, and 3 on the right side, instead of making a link of 4 in total through my base.
Tgsacred already tested that... Just go watch his vid
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have you included the cost of energy buildings required for the prism to work?
You should keep apocalypse moving forward while attacking, clearly the front row is blocking the rest.
Apocalypse is suck stop crying kid
Apocs need to stand still to attack though.
The scatter shot is splendid!
I love these fights. thanks for showing different intakes
I laughed when "The instruments of doo....".
So did i
3:42
Love you sir for making such awesome video's like this.big fan of u,because I have played this game in every way or formation.
The best part of these apocalypse tank videos is the miku hatsune guy who tells everyone who says the word "apocalypse" to stop crying. My favorite part of reading the comments tbh
1 year old kid stop crying
Apocalypse is suck
Nah that bot is literally everywhere on the more recent uploads. That's what bad parenting will do to you.
@@SoldierOfFate 1 year old kid stop crying
@@SoldierOfFate fatherless bot: 1 year old kid stop crying
This is interesting, but I will add that, unlike some comparisons, this one has very little practical application. This is because you have to defend your base from all angles, whereas they can attack from any angle and thus take your towers on piecemeal. So, in reality, you would actually need far more prism towers than incoming tanks. The Apocalypse Tank is an absolute beast, and my favorite unit of Red Alert 2 by far. Even though I haven't played in many years, I find your videos interesting.
Apocalypse is suck stop crying 1 year old kid
🔥 video! So satisfying
"The instrument of doo--!"
Charged Eiffle Tower vs Myan Pyramids.
1 year old kid stop crying kid
@@mikuhatsune8121 Do you need a hug?
Kilmori
1 year old kid stop crying
@@Kilmori 1 year old kid stop crying kid
Prism tank laughing at apocalypse watching this.
Apocalypse is suck
You gave the Prism Towers veteran status!
i will test with veteran towers and elite ones, i will give them the same dmg increase as units get
Who wins 100 Elite ultra powerful prism towera
Or 1 sneaky boi to the power plant
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I think it wouldn't be OP if like a faction had this special version of Prism tower but at the same cost and power consumption as a grand cannon.
3:15 what changed about the tanks?
Whats the name of program you test the tanks?
Prism Towers vs Apocalypse
Raytracing Prism Towers vs Apocalypse
3:19
not correct, prisms needs energy, so cost must be with powerplants.
nuclear reactor is cheap
Nuclear reactor is soviet, bub. Unrelated, but there should be a separate test where allies have 1 vet level and other side is green because spies.
Make same type of Videos for red alert 3 also
With the current war in Europe it makes me think about how some poor schmocks are sitting in their tanks 1000kms from here and await their death. All for the glory of their psychopathic kgb generals.
Can you make this one, but with "ELITE Prism towers" vs Elite Apocs with Firepower and Armour crates?
i will make a video with Elite Prism Towers, but 1vs1 not 100 v100 cause it's not possible to promote them in editing, map editor, etc... only on battlefield
@@GreenElf then how did you make theese 100 "elite" towers
basicaly take last part of this video and redo it with Elite Apocs with crates..
or maybe I misunderstood
@@GreenElf with Ares mod it's posible, but you need build every tower in game
Difference between T34, T34-85 and IS2
Apocalypse Tank: Soviet Power Supreme
Prism Towers: Intensifying light trajectory
1 year old kid stop crying kid
next video apocalypse vs tesla tower
vs psychic tower even better lol
1 year old kid stop crying kid
Same cost my ass, what about all the power plants needed to power them?🤣
Besides me who else was rooting for the Prism Towers? 😎
I though prism tower was the strongest base defense. I was wrong, tesla coil indeed the strongest base defense
1 year old kid stop crying kid
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elite prism tanks are way too strong. 3 elite prism tanks can destroy 100 normal prism tanks.
Prism towers should have the scattershot
To make a fair comparison you would need to add the costs of the power plants to power the Prism Towers. This was obviously not done for this video.
100 elite prism tanks are really stronger than this apocalypse is suck stop crying kids
1 year old kid stop crying
if instead, just 1 prism tanks is enough to win those prism towers the apocalypse is only good for the kids