As someone that was once doing an arts degree but then dropped out after a semester by my own choice because I wasn’t happy there, I can understand why Pam still looks back on that as a failure. Even tho I made the choice to leave, and I know that it was the right thing to have done, I can still feel like I failed when I look back, and when I want to try something new I worry I will give it up again like I gave that up. I empathise with Pams insecurity and self doubt this episode quite a lot even if she’s assessing her past unfairly. Great Episode! I’ve watched the office so many times and now binging through your reviews for the first time and loving it!
You did a good job explaining the bigger meaning behind this episode and really made me reanalyze my position on it since I normally overlook this episode as filler
So two things: first technically you are right. Pam did not fail art school, she failed one class and she could easily retake it, even at this point. That said, she did fail at completing art school, not because she took the class but because she quit. This brings me to my second point. Pam does not succeed because she does not stick with anything long enough to see it through. The second it gets hard, she pulls out *(that's what she said)*. She was only in art school for three months and she was only a salesman for little over a year, (part of that time she was on maternity leave), you cannot expect to be good at sales when everyone else with the possible exception of Andy has been doing it for almost a decade or more. So you are definitely right about how this victory does not feel earned, especially since this is an easy victory she could have gotten since knowing what a landlord can and cannot do is a pretty easy google search.
The China debate is definitely more relevant than Inception. China is still rising to become the next superpower. The debate does not feel outdated at all.
Regarding the question of if Michael is an idiot or a secret genius: I think that so many things throughout the show point to him being neurodivergent. People can easily say that Dwight has some type of neurodivergence, but Michael does this for me too.
With Nate reading the address I thought he was reading the addresses on the opposite side of the street since he read an even number (10706) and the address they pull up to is (10735).
Michael just deciding he wins at the end is more annoying than funny but I just hate when any sitcom does that." Because reasons" only has so many uses. Solid enough episode though. More Hank is really fun. Love Andy and Dwight's subplot. Your explanation really adds some depth to things.
Pam really won this battle, before this even happened. Because Dwith gave up for his frienship with her, and that genuine friendship started years ago. Besides, why critize her because of failure? It is an important part of growing as a person. That is why Pam is a great developed character, in my opinion. Good analisys btw.
I think it's pretty clear it doesn't matter if Pam "failed" art school. She didn't pass on the first try (like most of her classmates probably did) and she chose not to finish. She attempted a degree/certification and doesn't hold that degree-- That, in her eyes, is a failure. Especially when you stack it with the emotions surrounding her lack of success as a saleswoman. It's much less about the facts and way more about the feelings. But that's just my take as a female artist who has attempted a degree she ultimately didn't get 😂
I kinda disagree with the whole current events dating an episode. I actually kinda enjoy it, the balloon boy mentions, the planking cold open. It reminds me of stuff that was happening when I was in high school
You always defend Pam and you're right most of the time, except for 2 occasions, her lashing out at Michael so bad when he dated her mom, and especially the second one making it so difficult for Jim when he was in Philly considering that they could've been perfectly happy and likely rich had he gone through with that
it was that he never told her initially and that he invested so much money from their savings without first consulting her. and when he was in Philly, she essentially had parent their two kids alone, which would naturally breed frustration, stress, and discontent. it's easy to say now that oh they could have been happy and rich but thats in hindsight. what if it fell though and they were left with thousands of dollars down the drain? theres a level of uncertainly that comes with such a major leap of faith especially in the moment
For me, it was the Philly arc that made me hate Pam. I had no problem wit her failures or anything else. If fact, I actually liked her especially in the 1st 4 seasons, but that Philly arc really wasn't executed very well. She acted like Jim wanting a better job was selfish lol. N that she was doing him a favor by "letting" him WORK...lol. u know, smt that NOBODY wants to do...
Mulverine considering Wuhan being exposed as well as the phentynal crises and possibly a future disaster for Taiwan. you have to admit that china is far away from the status of dated at least for this generation.
Pam has this weird loser/quitter attitude that only completely goes away at the very end of the show. She's not evil or horrible or anything just.. deeply flawed. Like all of us.
I don't dislike Pam, but she DID fail art school. Literally failure is defined as a lack of success. She did not succeed. She failed. But it's that so bad? People need to shift their understanding of failure and stop thinking of it as such a negative thing
I mean, the China topic will always remain relevant.
Actually....
--Oscar
The question of relevance in an age of googling-is-easy doesn't trap everything in amber, if people want to learn just enough to level up.
The present of the world, china is present and future, US was yesterday, Michael was right.
the way you said "why does china... the episode... exist in the first place" made me laugh so hard
But seriously, why DOES China exist? Why does ANY other country exist. It should all just be America. Fuck other countries!
That woman was flirting. Throughout the Office, women consistently find Dwight very desirable very quickly.
As someone that was once doing an arts degree but then dropped out after a semester by my own choice because I wasn’t happy there, I can understand why Pam still looks back on that as a failure. Even tho I made the choice to leave, and I know that it was the right thing to have done, I can still feel like I failed when I look back, and when I want to try something new I worry I will give it up again like I gave that up. I empathise with Pams insecurity and self doubt this episode quite a lot even if she’s assessing her past unfairly.
Great Episode! I’ve watched the office so many times and now binging through your reviews for the first time and loving it!
Ur content is rlly good and underrated. Anyway it was fun to see Oscar embarassed when hes usually the one embarassing people
Love your Videos man I have binged them for the last two months! Watchung elisodes and then your video! The best! Keep up the good work!
You did a good job explaining the bigger meaning behind this episode and really made me reanalyze my position on it since I normally overlook this episode as filler
So two things: first technically you are right. Pam did not fail art school, she failed one class and she could easily retake it, even at this point. That said, she did fail at completing art school, not because she took the class but because she quit.
This brings me to my second point. Pam does not succeed because she does not stick with anything long enough to see it through. The second it gets hard, she pulls out *(that's what she said)*. She was only in art school for three months and she was only a salesman for little over a year, (part of that time she was on maternity leave), you cannot expect to be good at sales when everyone else with the possible exception of Andy has been doing it for almost a decade or more. So you are definitely right about how this victory does not feel earned, especially since this is an easy victory she could have gotten since knowing what a landlord can and cannot do is a pretty easy google search.
Dude you and this series deserve so many more views.
The China debate is definitely more relevant than Inception. China is still rising to become the next superpower. The debate does not feel outdated at all.
Regarding the question of if Michael is an idiot or a secret genius: I think that so many things throughout the show point to him being neurodivergent. People can easily say that Dwight has some type of neurodivergence, but Michael does this for me too.
I agree
I agree, but funny enough this still doesn’t answer the question. Is he smart or not? I’d argue that neurodivergence doesn’t answer that.
With Nate reading the address I thought he was reading the addresses on the opposite side of the street since he read an even number (10706) and the address they pull up to is (10735).
14:17 opacity Michael on Tube City
I love the arguement at the end of the episode!
18:58 *Insert Kevin "Are you kidding me" clip*
the timing is wild...but relevant. nice upload
I was expecting a Trump China among all the Chinas at the beginning and was disappointed it never came
How? U know when Trump was a president of U.S. and when they were shooting that episode Man?
Mulverine, my friend, I am here to assure you that, as a brazilian fan in 2022, I have no idea what balloon boy is. That's all.
Me sitting at home in Fort Collins Colorado looking up balloon boy to find it happened in Fort Collins Colorado😂
The other Pam is a "meet cute".
What this episode is "actually" trying to convey 🤣🤣🤣
Michael just deciding he wins at the end is more annoying than funny but I just hate when any sitcom does that." Because reasons" only has so many uses. Solid enough episode though. More Hank is really fun. Love Andy and Dwight's subplot. Your explanation really adds some depth to things.
I think that it just kind of shows Michael never really changes honestly. He finds the positive nothing answers that will resonate.
Pam really won this battle, before this even happened. Because Dwith gave up for his frienship with her, and that genuine friendship started years ago. Besides, why critize her because of failure? It is an important part of growing as a person. That is why Pam is a great developed character, in my opinion.
Good analisys btw.
You gave it a good rating and a good Review to the episode overall
12:24 No way the youtube subtitles censored "spastic" lol
China is on my top 10 list. They're showboating with how three-dimensional Oscar is.
Ya... I've got no idea who balloon boy was...
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I absolutely love this channel and series. I should have really watched in order though
I think it's pretty clear it doesn't matter if Pam "failed" art school. She didn't pass on the first try (like most of her classmates probably did) and she chose not to finish. She attempted a degree/certification and doesn't hold that degree-- That, in her eyes, is a failure. Especially when you stack it with the emotions surrounding her lack of success as a saleswoman. It's much less about the facts and way more about the feelings.
But that's just my take as a female artist who has attempted a degree she ultimately didn't get 😂
Pam punching Michael is still so well Deserved
I kinda disagree with the whole current events dating an episode. I actually kinda enjoy it, the balloon boy mentions, the planking cold open. It reminds me of stuff that was happening when I was in high school
You always defend Pam and you're right most of the time, except for 2 occasions, her lashing out at Michael so bad when he dated her mom, and especially the second one making it so difficult for Jim when he was in Philly considering that they could've been perfectly happy and likely rich had he gone through with that
it was that he never told her initially and that he invested so much money from their savings without first consulting her. and when he was in Philly, she essentially had parent their two kids alone, which would naturally breed frustration, stress, and discontent. it's easy to say now that oh they could have been happy and rich but thats in hindsight. what if it fell though and they were left with thousands of dollars down the drain? theres a level of uncertainly that comes with such a major leap of faith especially in the moment
@@2wayalley743 things were already going good with the company when Jim went to Philly tho
Pam could have passed art school but she missed jim more 😢
Favorite channel!
I am a comment... I also hit like because real fans push the algorithm. Great video Chris!
For me, it was the Philly arc that made me hate Pam. I had no problem wit her failures or anything else. If fact, I actually liked her especially in the 1st 4 seasons, but that Philly arc really wasn't executed very well. She acted like Jim wanting a better job was selfish lol. N that she was doing him a favor by "letting" him WORK...lol. u know, smt that NOBODY wants to do...
pls you need to go back and add the season & episode to the titles! I'm trying to watch in order,.
Hey, they should all be in the Playlist for season 7!
Mulverine considering Wuhan being exposed as well as the phentynal crises and possibly a future disaster for Taiwan. you have to admit that china is far away from the status of dated at least for this generation.
Pam has this weird loser/quitter attitude that only completely goes away at the very end of the show. She's not evil or horrible or anything just.. deeply flawed. Like all of us.
I don't dislike Pam, but she DID fail art school. Literally failure is defined as a lack of success. She did not succeed. She failed. But it's that so bad? People need to shift their understanding of failure and stop thinking of it as such a negative thing
Your videos rock Mulverine! Look forward to the premiers!
da faq is baloon boy=?
Krav McGraw
You missed a chance to put a DJT China gif in this video 🤣🤣🤣
China.
楼下战忽上，请力捧米国，捧到它飘飘欲仙那种捧。
Michael at 14:17
I really do hate that most of Michael's growth happened in the last season.