Tobias is digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself. LOL In UK, you can be thrown in jail for criticizing the Royal family. It is life imprisonment if you merely utter a suggestion of abolishing the monarchy.
There is no such thing as "rules based order.". There's international law, and one country is famous for breaking it all the time. Hint, it is not China.
Hint China has been illegally occupying Aksai Chin since 1962 & has more than 100k soldiers deployed on the Indian border when they tried to transgress across the LAC. China has been continuously transgressing into Arunachal Pradesh. China has built island(s) in the middle of the South China Sea. China has border disputes with every single one of its neighbours. You are either stupid or unaware. I hope it’s the latter. Don’t try countering this with whataboutery as well.
Every country has its own set of international laws, and can change them whenever it likes. "International law" doesn't mean "laws that apply to all countries", it simply refers to the sections of a country's laws that govern the way it interacts with other countries, as decided by its legislature. Laws are just the rules decided upon by the people with the power to do so. Those people can always change what those rules are, you shouldn't elevate them above what they are.
@@annoloki International law that is mentioned in a global setting refers to laws set and agreed by all countries and originates from global institutions that all countries are part of such as the United Nations. It has no reference to each countries' interpretation of International laws. An example is that International law does not allow for unilateral sanctions against another country but the US does it anyways because of their rules based order.
This type of MP is the main reason I moved overseas. He is totally ignorant of the subject he is Chair of and has obviously made no attempt whatsoever to educate himself on the matter. Everything he accuses China of, is done by the UK Gov., to a greater degree. Well done, as always, Cyrus.
I can assure you that he was not made a Minister because of his knowledge and so he has never found the need to continuously develop his knowledge on any subject. That goes for all of them. He is a minister only because he knows the "right people" or he is from the "right blood line"
Apparently that Tobias fellow only read Western Mainstream Media and believed wholesale what they churned out, hook, line and sinker. He is there just to be their echo-chamber. Unbelievable bigotry.
He is working not for the interests of UK but for the governmwnt across the pond. Like you have said, every ill he claimed of China are being carried by the UK and US governments, so it is kettle calling the pots black.
I really want to laugh out loud when the westerners mention international rules based order. Rules which are made to ensure the continued dominance of western power rather than fair competition!
I'd have to watch again to be sure but it sounded like he might have slipped up at one point and said international law instead of rules based order. International law does exist and is written down, but the international rules based order just refers to the US making things up as it goes and ordering everyone around.
I'm glad Cyrus pointed out that Chinese citizens are required to use their ID on the internet, and that there is less anonymity. It is basically exactly what that MP wanted, but it seems like that MP had no idea. These are the kinds of people who make decisions in the West about China.
That MP says that Chinese companies are required by law to abide to the Chinese government's requests, completely unaware that the US and UK and other allied nations have the exact same law.
"These are the kinds of people who make decisions in the West about China." What... British MP's do not run Britain, they follow orders from Washington like the rest of Europe's pretend Govts. They even have people confused into thinking the USA and Europe are the same thing and we call it "The West" so people cant tell the difference.
Having the ability to publish what could be controversial opinions anonymously was used by the founders of America. Certainly the argument that linking an ID to an account eliminates nefarious activities but it more importantly can be used by the government to censor speech. I seriously doubt you folks here would be so emboldened with your posting if RUclips decided to verify your accounts with an ID.
@@TomNook. Yeah. I wonder whether MP and the general public in UK or US know squat about their own laws that require submission of data to their government. 😂. When they find out that their privacy is being invaded by their own government, they blame China for it 😂.
Sounds like Most RUclipsrs I've seen. If they cover any Topic that even slightly... remotely related to Asians or China, they will loud capitalized on the Word "Evil Communist Chinese Party".
@@austinjt4264you actually might like RBN. One of their citizen journalists has never been to China, but brings on people to inform his viewers. He’s actually positive about Chinese accomplishments.
@@calvyncraven1141 You know them for their evils. Good discernment on your part. Excellent. If there's more people like you this world would be a much better place.
Yeah. They're propagandists, including their viewers. They act like their own domestic government and companies aren't messing with their data or tracking them at all. I mean wasn't it British protesters that were protesting their new "king" and got arrested? Or how about that one person who wore a religious shirt and got arrested? These guys need to stop acting like western countries are a beacon of freedom and fairness.
@@chester1234ification For sure, for example, I was never banned on Chinese social media for venting but I was banned on Twitter for supporting Trump until Musk took over Twitter and I appealed, then I got unbanned.
I lived jn a former british protectorate. Our history is basically the brits trying to "civilized" us and how we are lazy lots because our people don't want to be work under them lmao
Rules based order = US national laws eg. the latest Taiwan Policy Act of 2022 Act.😔😔😔. Rules base order should be based on UN Charter which is agreed upon by all member countries in the world.
...only trouble is: US are not held by any rules - & they will change the rules made by them according to "expediency." For example - whose rules of democracy are they following when they bombed Iraq, and killed civilians in Syria, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Bikini Islands, etc.?
Tobias Ellwood, thanks for your words, I can now reconstruct how people like you talked to Africans and Indians and Chinese. When you use your full of contempt and intense talk, one can get scared indeed of the same superiority which was used in your old good colonial times. Your inflated ego and cheap sale of corrupted reality which you insinuate is democracy seem really pitiful and grotesque.
elwood is what being a sore loser looks and sounds like. that cant take that china has eclipsed his western empire so they resort to baseless bsing and name calling. these ignorant politicians are the same as there ancestors which participated in 2 world wars already. how civilized are they really?
I love that my students in China, all who come from fairly well-to-do families, are not allowed to use phones in school. They do not carry smartphones with them, and I have never seen a student with one. It makes a massive difference to how they are as people. There is a connectedness, respectfulness, immediacy and goodness to them that I have retrospectively found to have eroded in Korea, where I taught for twenty years. This is not to say that the students I taught in Korea were rude or anything of that nature. They were not; they were good people. But there is something tangible that the absence of social media access brings to a classroom and a school. I would summarize by saying the absence of smartphones results in a greater sense of togetherness, and an ability to hold someone's gaze and listen to them directly. In a word: presence. Finally, I don't use my own phone that much either after being tech-starved for a week last year on Kiritimati in the middle of the Pacific. But I do deflect occasionally from making stuff and doing research on my laptop to watch a RUclips video or two and give a rare comment or two, as here.
I shake my head each time some one from the US, UK or Canada mentions the need for rule based international order. They don’t even blink when telling a lie straight in your face.
@@tedtoews9889 Same everywhere. The only rules they work on, is how to make a dysfunctional world. With digital slaves, and a very small selfappointed elite, above the law. As always.
I was laughing into tears for how they're so confident about their stupidity and ignorance. The Western media definitely makes a great contribution to shaping their stupidity, bigotry, ignorance, and prejudice. 😂😂😂
Western governments have gone crazy. Bankers and stock traders have taken control of the levers of power. They are parasites eating up the wealth of the societies they govern. They ship good paying jobs overseas with no regard for the workers or the fabric of communities or society as whole. They let infrastructure crumble and defund schools. They turned prisons into a giant industrial complex that makes it's money incarcerating the poor and powerless that they created through their greed. They have no patriotism or love of country. These are the people who start wars in their bid for world dominance so they can steal and plunder the riches of all countries and civilizations. Thank God China, India, and Russia have grown rich and strong enough to offer some kind of alternative future to the one these sociopaths would like to curse us with.
My advice is that don’t point out their ignorance and let them be stupider and stupider so that we can continue to have this unending real life ‘comedies’ for years to come.
Only yesterday I was telling Alex from Reporterfy Media that you guys were becoming the most trusted source for geopolitical analysis on China. Point proven. 👏
Cyrus barely said anything other than CPC restricting to 45mins under 18! Basically he was agreeing with the hawk that China is that horrible authoritarian regime that ban and arrest people at will!!!
The irony of Elwood saying the state should not impose itself and control the message amd destroy criticism and arrest people who say things against the state, when we have just done the exact same thing over people rightfully peacefully dissenting over Israel and our complicity with that regime. At least China does what they do for the good of the country, we do what we do for the good of another country entirely. Israel, Ukraine, everyone is favoured except for our own! Edit: also China is not a Totalitarian state.
Mike Pompeo wants to be the next president. Holding up his right hand on the bible, ' we lied, we stole we cheated, we murdered. That should go down well.
NO, IT IS NOT. They also murder their own people Hell, they even assassinate their own president, one who was unbelievably popular because he would not go along with forever wars so the MIC could keep the blood money flowing to the Political class. @@hengchen6688
@@hengchen6688OMG - that's all the West does is lie steal & exploit, cheat, break any signed treaties & agreements they negotiated with who thought in good faith, whenever they want!! Wake up buddy😮 🙏✌️
We've reached a sorry state in the UK when people like Ellwood can blatantly misrepresent facts. This isn't an exhaustive list from what I've gathered from this clip but here goes: i. The UK found NO security threats in Huawei [see Vince Cable's admission] - it was only after BoJo went to Australia as Foreign Minister that he changed his tune after being leaned on by the Baldie [Aussie Defence Minister?] on behalf of the US. ii. What Rules Based Order is TE referring to? Is there a published (& universally accepted) set? The Rules which should be observed are those voted in by the UN or other authorities like the WTO. Looks like TE hasn't learnt from his drubbing by George Galloway in their recent Oxford debate. The bottom line is China can do without the UK - the question is why are we so intent on digging a deeper hole for ourselves by siding with a fading bully instead of taking the morally & ethically correct course of steering a middle course that is right for Britain?
"China can do without UK" - then de-couple. Britain future is best served within an alliance with like minded nations with whom we share common goals and values. On our own we are very much a small country that China will push around. We saw that in the Comments Xi made to Justin Trudeau. CCP talk down and insults a middle ranking western power - and the CCP rejoices!
@@Andy-P You've got it backwards - it's Britain that wants to de-couple. What is your main 'common goal & value'? Since when has China pushed the UK around?
Tiktok in US, the data servers are in Virginia, managed by Americans. Each country has their own cultures. Rules and laws. It ain't one size fits all approach. Each country should establish their own Tiktok version based on their rules and laws. The so called "threat" are based on hypertheorical narratives but no factual evidences present to back up the claim of threat.
Do you work for the Defense Of Department of the United States? What's your clearance level to sensitive information, or simple put where are you on the "NEED TO KNOW" totem pole?
@@804MRMAN he seems to have enough clearance to know that the balloon scare was a setup, the Ukrainians are being thrown under the bus to protect the US from fallout on the pipeline blowout and more. How deep in the hole are you?
A sincere round of applause to you Cyrus. The world needs more voice and clear minds like yours, it surely would benefit all of us if everybody, particularly in the west can see things clearly.Thank you.
Yeah! I really wish I had more time...I was the least experienced of the three, first time on a big TV show like this, next time I'll be a bit more aggressive
@@CyrusJanssen Yes, Cyrus you should be, next time. Plus, if you truly want to stand out and up in what you believe in, then be prepared to always drive home your point to them by subtly and even sometimes aggressively showing them a mirror image of the same things they accuse other powerful nations of doing in their own systems and policies. That's exactly the way Russell Brand handles these hypocrites. We can't have a sane, respectful and just world unless people like you with a strong voice speak the truth in the right way to these people. You didn't do badly, though. But I'm sure next time you'd better.
Cyrus, you presented facts in a classy manner -calm and firm and that poor chair of defence is still so convinced that Tiny Britain has a YUGE tool. I have to say that ignorance and arrogance is the worst combo.
As a Chinese, I would say we can't control what others are saying or their prejudice against China, we will still focus on our stuff, keep moving and try our best to make a better life for the public. we were bullied heavily before, so we know how important for the human to live peacefully and harmoniously, which is good for everyone and every country existing in the same planet. Please don't stay in your box to think and give opinions for others who you never have a conversation with.
Been to China THREE times, son teaches English, IT'S A HELL HOLE.. PERIOD.. Last time was really, really BAD, just before covid lockdown.. NO sewage systems, NO baths-just showers, STINK coming from shower drains EVERYWHERE, they sell air fresheners everywhere that you put in the shower drains because of the smells.. Leave the big cities and you enter America in 1860, except for a single electric wire into the house.. Well pumps in the kitchens, fields fertilized with human waste.. The smells are really bad.. This is HIS girlfriends parents house 20 miles outside a large city.. Communal bathroom for the town, EVERYBODY showers and uses the bathroom there TOGETHER.. Male and Female..LOL..LOL.. You take a dump and put the paper into a bin in the center of the bathroom, imagine the smell.. The food is dangerous.. First thing when you wake up is boil your daily water in a 3 gallon ceramic bowl and you use that to do anything that goes inside you or touches your lips.. EVERYBODY does this, RICH AND POOR.. Crazy prostitution houses on every block in the cities, THAT SURPRISED ME.. No signs for them, BUT, EVERYBODY knows where they are and what they are for...LOL..I guess the kickbacks are tremendous.. Small 3-wheeled diesel putt-putts are EVERYWHERE spewing black smoke.. The sky often becomes ORANGE because of the pollution.. Get sick, you get the 12 pills, FOR EVERYTHING.. Some kind of herbs or something.. Need REAL CARE, you have to go to the western hospital in Beijing.. OTHERWISE, you DIE.. Warlords rule in a lot of the country, especially the western areas.. They LOVE KARAOKE, they have entire buildings of 12 stories devoted to it, with different types of music on each floor..
Great opening liner Lvy. Actually most Asians have this mindset. Do what we can do, ignore what others have against us, usually unfounded and baseless allegations, but single-side perceptions or worse, hearsays. That’s no way gonna improve our lives. I’m from Singapore, and Singaporeans are living a peaceful life in a relatively crime free and beautiful environment. I’ve got comments from ignorant westerns saying Singapore is having harsh laws and fine it’s citizens freely. The problem is, westerners don’t seem to understand that we don’t like crimes, or tolerate that, hence we avoid getting into situations that will be on the wrong side of the law. How would anyone get punished one way or another, when we embrace the laws to make our country crime free? Then they came up with bs like Singaporeans can’t own guns or do drugs freely. God, why do we want firearms to seep into our social system, where one can live in fear, walk into the streets unbeknownst the person next to you may be a threat to your own life, and they the same thinking about you? Mistrust and stuffs, rather than protection. And drugs, a huge social ill, and they expect to want us to follow the west into the doldrums of zombieland? What for? The people will be an economic and social burden, stressing on the medical capacity of any country. So let’s just do as you’ve mentioned. Let them say all they like, we will just enjoy our peace and environment. Let them concoct their own impressions and dwell in their dark thoughts while we all will keep on progressing
I remember in 2018, I posted a suggestion thru Chinese gov website, to get it done, I had to fill in the real name and phone number as required. I thought it would probably get ignored, turned out a month ish later, I got a phone call which I thought it was a scam, instead, the guy identified himself as a gov employee who was to feedback what I suggested as the standard procedure. He expressed what I suggested was hard to achieve at the moment, explained some of the difficulties they were facing, confliction to the law, regulations, and the civil development requirements, which never crossed my mind to consider them in. There are always something you don’t know, which applies to an average citizen like me, not to mention a foreigner who never step a foot onto China’s soil.
its weird right when Big country like china being reported by Media so BS? My media in my country in SEA getting references from western media so it's sometimes difficult to get true and neutral international news.
Cause in a Western democracy setting, citizens have the power to change the leaders but they forgotten that you can hardly change the policies only empty and mostly outrageous election campaign promises. China's system is not just one dictator as West loves to portray but a rather a huge committee overseeing, discussing and evaluating options. Hard to explain to Americans who literally accepts the headlines as gospel truth without fact checking. And even lies after lies are in the open, they still adore those lying hypocrites in office!
Many westerners still failed to recognise the difference of the cultures. They put all kind of blames on the government but they did not bother to find out was that what the people wanted or the people actually the ones that pushed for it to happen.
@@KelvinLKY Western is an ego centric culture where everything revolves around Me, Me and Me which basically means I do want I want = freedom and human rights. However their equation is flawed and doesn't take into account the majority's wishes which is funny when at the same breath they talk about democracy which equates to majority wins. Yet they allow the minority (Woke LBGTQ) to enforce on the majority sex change on kids. West will even support known terrorists who fight against a common enemy yet at the same breath scream about terrorists and the need to invade Sovereign countries and change the government. The meaning of Hypocrisy has been totally eradicated from the English language and dictionary
Elwood is massively uninformed and paranoid about what is supposed to his field of expertise and Morgan seems to be equally clueless about every subject I've ever heard him speak about.
❤️ Cyrus - you are a wonderful spokesman for educating the world the TRUTH about China 🇨🇳 There is so much distrust right now, and I feel you truly helped. Well done 👍
In the West & the US, If they wanted to arrest anyone, they simply says that person is at risk to their national security. Edward Snowden from the US and Julian Assange from Australia are the classic example of that.
@@davethewanderer4520there is no society is transparent. all informations we get are filtered by the main social media and the government. we are seemed can give our own opinions when ever we can. but these opinions depend on those informations we got from those main social medias. by this way, they guide the population' s speech, and made our believe that we have the "Freedom of speech".
@@zhengwang5331 Sure every source of information are biased in one way, in a TRANSPARENT society, there are freedom to read from MANY different sources, one can then evaluate the facts, not just one FULLY CONTROLLED channel. Of course, if you think a single source of information is reliable, then you believe what you want to believe, or what they want you to believe, no other options. It is your choice, assuming you are real person who is genuine wanting to be better informed. In CCP China, no one knows what is happening for sure, there lies the lies.
Your kind of attitude is the reason Ireland is a leading economy in the EU with an extremely high standard of living , able to work with both sides. ☘️
As an American, I am in pain, how can you live in peace, we have to bring you war, because the world operates according to our rules, we are the god of the world, everyone must follow our rules, otherwise any disobedient Countries are our potential enemies, we must find a way to make them go to war
Spot on! As a person living in China I am amazed at the amount of paranoia the west is suddenly having towards China, they must focus on the decline, economically, socially etc...
Relax and enjoy the Western shows: let it be & let it go; they know the words but don’t understand the outside world; they know the technology but don’t understand the mechanism; they win their games but don’t win other people’s hearts
Man, Cyrus I gotta give you props for keeping a straight face while listening to this BS from Tobias. I am flipping out here when he dares to almost be in denial of China doing good by actually helping the youth and limiting their time on SM.
cyrus is so cool headed. i wish i had his cool temper ! i don’t mind if these western governments don’t want to learn from china for options to solve common problems. but i do have an issue with them when they try to prevent other countries from learning from china’s experience and force them to take their less effective solutions that haven’t worked for the past several decades.
I admired Cyrus's calmness during this exchange. The chinese government's position during western attacks: Stay calm. I suggest all pro china people should do the same. Ignore the noise and stay calm. If China avoid conflict, time is on the side of China's rise.
The other two think that they know China very well, actually they DONT. It may be a good thing that let them think that they are more superior in doing their things and keep living in a box they made for themselves.
Usually when people say or claim they know China, it is always the opposite. How can really one know other cultures/social behavior if they never been to China or live long enough there....
Please don't misunderstand them. They don't care to know China, they're talking to a domestic audience to prepare that audience for hostility towards China.
Cyrus, you are a great bridge between US and China. You have been trying to build understanding, peace and respect between these two countries. We all love you!
Congratulations Cyrus, on being invited to the show! Your presence helps in spreading the truth. You did a good job and I hope you get to be invited to more shows. 👏
think Cyrus was invited to be put down ... but he didn't back down ... tho, all had fallen onto deaf ears ... tobias was constantly shaking his head ... pre-conceived gestures, from pre-notions ... a chair of defense committee :-/
supposedly a journalist who has already mentioned the rules-based order twice is not a journalist, he is a propagandist. By the way, where can I download and print this "rule based order"?
When the UK guy refers to international rules and order, anyone with half a brain knows it's the UK and USA rules and order. The U.S. will change the rule anytime it doesn't fit it's interest and make up new ones at will. Just saying...
the idiot uk guy is english ! and westminster gov. take ORDERS from corrupt washington gov ! when will it become the 51st. state ? from the colony of scotland ! ALABA GU BRATH
That Tobias guy is as solid as rock in his belief. No arguments/inputs anything positive about China will be absorbed by his brain. In his way of thinking, the Chinese can do nothing good. If Tiktok was an American company, I am sure he will agree. I love how calm Cyrus here.
No not at all, China is not a security threat to UK or US nor is TikTok a security threat to anyone. TikTok is just a public media to serve the public.Tobias and the host Morgan are obviously very highly biased and prejudiced westerners who have already made up their mind that China or Russia are evil and untrustworthy.And therefore have to be put down at all costs. It's very sad indeed both of them have not shed their fear of the "yellow peril" and " defend the British Empire" at all cost. Such mentality are very dangerous and insiduos for forging mutual understanding.
Tik tok is no body’s threat, only the west and India wants to ban it coz tik tok has gained its popularity so much that they can’t come up with substitute having same public rating. They would ban only on paper- like india~ millions of India youth loves tik tok even if it was banned.
I am a Filipino many Filipinos are divided between China, but one thing that I personally learn about. Never believe on western news especially most of them exaggerated the story to support on their political idea. As a Filipino I've constantly encountered many harsh news against our nations in general. Especially during the past couple of years when we have a very controversial leader I've say this, many people in South America even in the US itself has drug related incident. Murder, shooting all of it or most of it are link with Drugs. The problem of South American countries especially in criminality is very common past years before President Duterte became the leader. Now we don't have same problem when it comes to drugs and criminality. The crime went down but the Western media only talks about the lives of drug suspects but they ignore the impact of the war against Drugs positively to the community. Add to that before in the Philippines Streets especially during night is dangerous now no one is saying that streets are dangerous in our country. The thing I learned is western media exaggerate stories and never told the whole story in general. Even if China and the Philippines my country has territorial dispute I never generally say that they are just pure evil.. I'm not retarded to believe what I heard in the news. I have a tendency that actually search what I heard to the news to another sources that has complet story of the news to avoid the brainwashed.
Well said. If you want to know China better, go to China at least one in your lifetime, it will open up your eye and mind, we Chinese are not afraid to be criticized, but the words have to be fair.
Pres. Duterte was also the reason why I eventually had to see the bigger picture of geopolitics and stop hating China so incessantly. The fact that Barack Obama and the US government sanctioned us, our so-called "closest ally" proves that they have no real intention of helping us out on improving our country's situation since it collides with the interests of the privileged view both here and the US.
1:40 China brought up more than 0.333 of its people to middle class, while in America and Britain middle class people are vanishing. I let you choose any word synonymous with buzz off. as long as it's HARSH
As a South African, I do too. Whenever the US does anything here, we end up in deebt. When China comes, we have new factories, roads and hospitals, and not as much money is owed to them.
These 2 clowns, left and center, don’t even realize that they live in inverted totalitarianism. “Inverted totalitarianism, unlike classical totalitarianism, does not revolve around a demagogue or charismatic leader. It finds expression in the anonymity of the Corporate State. It purports to cherish democracy, patriotism, and the Constitution while manipulating internal levers.” ― Chris Hedges , Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle
And the UK and Canada too. They are lapdogs of the US and repeat everything that their master says. Not only that, but they insist that the so-called rule-based order which has American interest first is the only order for other countries to follow. How arrogant and foolish!
When Cyrus said Chinese people could give feedback to gov on social media, Ellwood's first reaction is like a shaking head doll. He shake his head pretending he knows everything very well about China. It made him look very very very stupid.
Funny thing is the UK government certainly do not listen from feedback from the people. How Ellwood is in power and how this country is letting him send weapons to Ukraine is fucking mindblowing
Then try to provide some feedback disagree with CCP's policy on Chinese social media, and check if your account is locked, assuming you could registet an account and write some Chinese😂
im a chinese, I had same reaction when Cyrus said that. it is true that we can comment on the government, we just need to make sure our feedbacks are very positive😅, negative comments will be removed very efficiently.
Good to see that you are getting some air time with the British mainstream media. Piers Morgan is considered a moderate and is usually quite rational during his interviews. The misinformation about China is very widespread and pervasive in the West so it is not hard to imagine why he said what he said in closing.
and morgan almost had to backtrack all the way out of the studio just goes to show you how much freedom of speech they really have in the media. imagine the nerve to say anything positive about the evil commies.
It's so ironic that both the US and UK always talked about rule based international order but vague about what those rules are. And they had been the most notorious rule breakers when they did not like the rules. They consider themselves above all the rules.
Don't forget all the government buildings they build In Africa with full of hidden microphones and cameras in the desk and walls. and china also builded up their servers for them... somehow the data of all the employees were being uploaded every night to Shanghai. How strange, it must be a "lie" or “im racist” , you know if Apple does fraud and you blame Apple, it means ur racist
When the western mainstream media talks about "The International Rule Based Order" they are referring to "The US Based International Order" ! Rules are not laws and the only international based laws is from the collective agreements of the United Nations of which the US is not signatory member of ! The word "International" in capital is not the same as the word "international" in lower case !
The rule is whatever the rule the US or UK happen to decide to set at the time without consultation to its own ppl(all country vote) or to the world, and yet they say 'their' rule base is good, the rest are all BAD
prrd was doing a balacing act between us and china b4 rental income is made on clark and subic bases now it became 10 areas did the rental increase 5x or its free of charge some officials in the north squandered hundred of millions of pesos. was it the rental bribe income from vfa us bases and now small fisherman is under threat to be arrested by simply fishing this the delicate balancing act PRRD has to do to protect the livelihood of our fishermen in wps. and not exhange for brave empty words. nothing is easy the problem is china is not afraid of the USA any longer and phil become the fontline canon ball for the usa china is challenging everyone japan korea vietnam india taiwan if we are attack the us soldiers will not help until US congress give its okay to assist maybe in 1 year time Its in the interest of the USA to throw us in dragons mouth than taiwan since the chip tech interest of the west is in taiwan and they cannot afford while they regard as monkeys that can be sacrifice 3:363:36
So true!!! You hit the nail on the head!!! @0.50-1:23: I was laughing when Piece Morgan said, Tik Tok was controlled by China state. If it were so what? Look at Utube, Twitter, Facebook are not controlled by US state? CIA isn't involved in controlling the narratives? Comments they don't like are shadow banned. It's happened to me and others I know so many times. This is the level of hypocrisy and ignorance they have in the west!!
@@Cedfer69 because they push propaganda to gullible people like maybe yourself? Want proof - 2016 trump used facebook to win voter confidence. 2020 biden used twitter to do the same. Whats ur evidence for tictok? None!
Why didn't you ask him " why are you so worried about Tik Tok , but turn a blind eye to Facebook that actually works in conjunction with police forces around the world ? " Facebook also sells your private information ! And we won't even mention RUclips 🤣
USA just passed a law to arrest any person who against Isreal😂😂😂 But since USA use a democratic way to elect their president, therefore this is legitimated. The same logic of Western media seems to be if Netanyahu is elected democratically and with the support of his citizen, then he can do whatever he wants in Gaza.
By listening to this Tobias, I feel he has no Idea of any technology, only brainlessly copy what the US political government nonsense losers said. I’m ashamed to be American citizen due to this super stupid, uneducated and messy US government clowns driving the country to the hell in every way!
I grew up in a BRITISH COLONY ANC AT THE AGE OF 80 I am learning by reading independent version of colonialism and ethnic cleansing. Just in TIME TO EDUCATE MY GRAND GRAND FAMILY HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO EXCERCISE YOUR RIGHT OF VOTE ❤❤❤
Dear Cyrus. I'm glad you remained composed, polite and logical while sharing your insights and experience regarding China when talking to such ignorant and narrow-minded people in the show, who always expectedly spew their western propaganda narratives about China. It is worst than taking to a wall.
Sir, you have mastered the art of debate, calmness, poise and respect! You are the only one who spoke the honest truth here. May peace be always with you. Thank you for your contribution to humanity in speaking the truth
Yep. He pointed out the problem China is trying to solve. National security guy is basically trying to paint a picture of everything is about security, when in the reality the main reason they do X, Y, and Z is to fix everyday problems. Once you see the problem they try to fix, your solution might not be all that different.
This is my 2nd comment ever posted on RUclips. I just want to say that your presentation of evidence and calm demeanor when counter-arguing Western propaganda is Top notch! I just hope more of Western society can keep an open mind and engage with the facts before they echo western criticism of China. Well done and keep up the good work with informing those who seek a balanced point of view!
@@petersinclair3997 The ROC constitution states that Taiwan is part of China. There are no if and and buts about Taiwan being part of China. Only a handful of small countries who depend on the largesse from Taiwan recognize Taiwan as the government of all of China. Note that even those countries do not dispute the one china principle. Even the Americans have recognized that fact and agreed with the Shanghai Communiques.
@@petersinclair3997 Mainland China is clearly being benign, it's the US House of Representative speaker's visit to the island that's increasing cross-strait tensions. If you go and read Taiwan's own constitution, it states that the island is part of China.
@@yaoliang1580that is the US might set they want everyone to speak English, have democracy, consume Hollywood, enjoy American and American culture believe in the American dream and trust that America and American is superior to their own and thus emulate and obey America by doing so it destroys local culture and tries to bring them under the American umbrella
People in the west are too poor to travel the world. That's why they stuck in that little puddle. People who travels the world, are the only who can see the different. A quick visit don't even change much either.
I love objective honest fair people and processes. Im not even Chinese, I am Southern African, Namibian to be exact but you sir have just won yourself a subscriber to your channel. Stay true to humanity.
Can we trust the Chinese blah blah. And the part where he keeps mentioning International Based Rules when they are flagrantly break them and show the middle finger to judicial bodies such as the ICC and ICJ is laughable.
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That filth propagandist knows exactly what going on! He’s part of the US HYPOCRISY!!
Tobias is digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself. LOL
In UK, you can be thrown in jail for criticizing the Royal family. It is life imprisonment if you merely utter a suggestion of abolishing the monarchy.
You could have pushed back more on the level of hypocrisy being displayed by the British MP.
Elwood is a impotent savage!!
Not a good idea to argue with the pinhead. If you don't refute each and every point of their nonsense, it looks like you agree with them.
There is no such thing as "rules based order.". There's international law, and one country is famous for breaking it all the time. Hint, it is not China.
Hint China has been illegally occupying Aksai Chin since 1962 & has more than 100k soldiers deployed on the Indian border when they tried to transgress across the LAC.
China has been continuously transgressing into Arunachal Pradesh.
China has built island(s) in the middle of the South China Sea.
China has border disputes with every single one of its neighbours. You are either stupid or unaware. I hope it’s the latter. Don’t try countering this with whataboutery as well.
Which country is it? Let me guess, it’s not that difficult to guess, it starts with U?
Every country has its own set of international laws, and can change them whenever it likes. "International law" doesn't mean "laws that apply to all countries", it simply refers to the sections of a country's laws that govern the way it interacts with other countries, as decided by its legislature. Laws are just the rules decided upon by the people with the power to do so. Those people can always change what those rules are, you shouldn't elevate them above what they are.
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@@annoloki International law that is mentioned in a global setting refers to laws set and agreed by all countries and originates from global institutions that all countries are part of such as the United Nations. It has no reference to each countries' interpretation of International laws. An example is that International law does not allow for unilateral sanctions against another country but the US does it anyways because of their rules based order.
This type of MP is the main reason I moved overseas. He is totally ignorant of the subject he is Chair of and has obviously made no attempt whatsoever to educate himself on the matter. Everything he accuses China of, is done by the UK Gov., to a greater degree.
Well done, as always, Cyrus.
He was funded by Soros so what's the difference between the Chair of whatever.
I can assure you that he was not made a Minister because of his knowledge and so he has never found the need to continuously develop his knowledge on any subject. That goes for all of them.
He is a minister only because he knows the "right people" or he is from the "right blood line"
Apparently that Tobias fellow only read Western Mainstream Media and believed wholesale what they churned out, hook, line and sinker. He is there just to be their echo-chamber. Unbelievable bigotry.
@@geraldgeaf1292 He knows how to kiss arse.
He is working not for the interests of UK but for the governmwnt across the pond. Like you have said, every ill he claimed of China are being carried by the UK and US governments, so it is kettle calling the pots black.
I really want to laugh out loud when the westerners mention international rules based order. Rules which are made to ensure the continued dominance of western power rather than fair competition!
If you ask them what are the rules, they will give you a blank face, because there isn't anything written down or agreed upon.
there is a reason why 5G concerns are held by britain, canada, u.s., australia and new zealand..."R"
I'd have to watch again to be sure but it sounded like he might have slipped up at one point and said international law instead of rules based order. International law does exist and is written down, but the international rules based order just refers to the US making things up as it goes and ordering everyone around.
Me, too..what is international rules based order? LOLS..
He meant that the American Law = International Law, lol
So USA is afraid china doing exactly what USA does. Hypocrisy as usual
I wouldn't trust the two clowns on the left, period.
Meaning both
@Deljohn V. Lumongsod Do you have a problem understanding where's your left?
I was thinking same thing.
Yep me neither!!
CHINA is a criminal state. Even though i hate WEST equally and more. China is run by globalist bankers. WUHAN lab is still running. case closed.
I'm glad Cyrus pointed out that Chinese citizens are required to use their ID on the internet, and that there is less anonymity. It is basically exactly what that MP wanted, but it seems like that MP had no idea. These are the kinds of people who make decisions in the West about China.
That MP says that Chinese companies are required by law to abide to the Chinese government's requests, completely unaware that the US and UK and other allied nations have the exact same law.
"These are the kinds of people who make decisions in the West about China."
What... British MP's do not run Britain, they follow orders from Washington like the rest of Europe's pretend Govts. They even have people confused into thinking the USA and Europe are the same thing and we call it "The West" so people cant tell the difference.
more such guys making wrong policies, the better, isn't it?
Having the ability to publish what could be controversial opinions anonymously was used by the founders of America. Certainly the argument that linking an ID to an account eliminates nefarious activities but it more importantly can be used by the government to censor speech. I seriously doubt you folks here would be so emboldened with your posting if RUclips decided to verify your accounts with an ID.
@@TomNook. Yeah. I wonder whether MP and the general public in UK or US know squat about their own laws that require submission of data to their government. 😂. When they find out that their privacy is being invaded by their own government, they blame China for it 😂.
The levels of hypocrisy and ignorance from Elwood are thru the roof.
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i rather trust Chine first
International rules based order is a veiled way of saying neo-colonialism
If the US wanted to track anyone they can via twitter, facebook, google, iOS...so the sheer hypocrisy is just unthinkable!
yes this Elwood guy show how ignorance he is to the world
it always amazed me how a bunch of experts have never been to China, yet refuse to acknowledge they are misinformed and biased
Sounds like Most RUclipsrs I've seen.
If they cover any Topic that even slightly... remotely related to Asians or China, they will loud capitalized on the Word "Evil Communist Chinese Party".
@@austinjt4264you actually might like RBN. One of their citizen journalists has never been to China, but brings on people to inform his viewers. He’s actually positive about Chinese accomplishments.
you will never wake up someone who is pretending to sleep. that's their job.
Not misinformed. It is a China hater because China is going to overtake America's economy.
Does my two weeks in China make me an expert?
It's sad how ignorant these Westerners are about what is actually going on in China or Russia. Amazing.
adult little boys with fear as their drive
Yes.
Not ignorant but malicious. They KNOW the truth but choose to spread LIES.
Yep, Chinese citizens welded themsleves into their own homes during every Covid flare up. Stfu.
@@calvyncraven1141 You know them for their evils. Good discernment on your part. Excellent. If there's more people like you this world would be a much better place.
The other guy, is like a total CIA bot. Everything is a threat and we need to DEAL with it.
"Yea, but he is OUR BOT." - western plutocrats.
MI6 Bot. But yeah.
Yep, classic Anglo imperialist psycho.
Yeah. They're propagandists, including their viewers. They act like their own domestic government and companies aren't messing with their data or tracking them at all. I mean wasn't it British protesters that were protesting their new "king" and got arrested? Or how about that one person who wore a religious shirt and got arrested? These guys need to stop acting like western countries are a beacon of freedom and fairness.
He’s a government employee what do u expect.
As if the US Government isn’t accessing data of the people planetwide. 😂
They don't use that data to threaten people who don't like the president lmao
I well trust Chinese Government before any other government on the planet.
Well it's OK when we do it b/c we're the good guys 🤡😉
They make the rules so it's okay if they spy on people because they write the "rule based order" and they are exempt from following it.
@@topherno yes the good cloud.......!!!!!!
300 people were arrested for soc media posts in Russia last year.
1400 in the UK.
😂 r u serious? Noooooooo way😂
@@chester1234ification For sure, for example, I was never banned on Chinese social media for venting but I was banned on Twitter for supporting Trump until Musk took over Twitter and I appealed, then I got unbanned.
Even on Instagram. Your comment can get you banned too.
@@themeowzers93 I heard that you have first amendment for that ?🤔
@@chester1234ificationhe is totally true. And the number keep rising. The UK is becoming a woke distopia.
Now look at Canada!
Can we trust the Americans? Whose rules are the rules based international order refer to? Definitely the US rules.
I lived jn a former british protectorate. Our history is basically the brits trying to "civilized" us and how we are lazy lots because our people don't want to be work under them lmao
Rules based order = US national laws eg. the latest Taiwan Policy Act of 2022 Act.😔😔😔. Rules base order should be based on UN Charter which is agreed upon by all member countries in the world.
...only trouble is: US are not held by any rules - & they will change the rules made by them according to "expediency." For example - whose rules of democracy are they following when they bombed Iraq, and killed civilians in Syria, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Bikini Islands, etc.?
@@thomaschan8205 rule based order USA crap
No, Ed Snowden made that absolutely clear
Tobias Ellwood, thanks for your words, I can now reconstruct how people like you talked to Africans and Indians and Chinese. When you use your full of contempt and intense talk, one can get scared indeed of the same superiority which was used in your old good colonial times. Your inflated ego and cheap sale of corrupted reality which you insinuate is democracy seem really pitiful and grotesque.
You in the West can do what you like but don't dictate what China can or cannot do. Shut up...
Good example of why we can not trust any politicians.
Yes. For example, the Hong Kong people don't trust Chinese politicians.
elwood is what being a sore loser looks and sounds like. that cant take that china has eclipsed his western empire so they resort to baseless bsing and name calling. these ignorant politicians are the same as there ancestors which participated in 2 world wars already. how civilized are they really?
When a Yankee politician speaks. just laugh at the fool thrash .
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I love that my students in China, all who come from fairly well-to-do families, are not allowed to use phones in school. They do not carry smartphones with them, and I have never seen a student with one. It makes a massive difference to how they are as people. There is a connectedness, respectfulness, immediacy and goodness to them that I have retrospectively found to have eroded in Korea, where I taught for twenty years. This is not to say that the students I taught in Korea were rude or anything of that nature. They were not; they were good people. But there is something tangible that the absence of social media access brings to a classroom and a school. I would summarize by saying the absence of smartphones results in a greater sense of togetherness, and an ability to hold someone's gaze and listen to them directly. In a word: presence. Finally, I don't use my own phone that much either after being tech-starved for a week last year on Kiritimati in the middle of the Pacific. But I do deflect occasionally from making stuff and doing research on my laptop to watch a RUclips video or two and give a rare comment or two, as here.
I shake my head each time some one from the US, UK or Canada mentions the need for rule based international order. They don’t even blink when telling a lie straight in your face.
And notice that it isn't international law they are talking about
I'm in Canada and the only rules based order we know is that US rules give Canadian government the orders.
@@tedtoews9889 Same everywhere.
The only rules they work on, is how to make a dysfunctional world. With digital slaves, and a very small selfappointed elite, above the law.
As always.
Agree, you are telling the truth. 👍👍👍
Exactly, what are those rules or order? Whose rules or order?
I was laughing into tears for how they're so confident about their stupidity and ignorance. The Western media definitely makes a great contribution to shaping their stupidity, bigotry, ignorance, and prejudice. 😂😂😂
Western governments have gone crazy. Bankers and stock traders have taken control of the levers of power. They are parasites eating up the wealth of the societies they govern. They ship good paying jobs overseas with no regard for the workers or the fabric of communities or society as whole. They let infrastructure crumble and defund schools. They turned prisons into a giant industrial complex that makes it's money incarcerating the poor and powerless that they created through their greed. They have no patriotism or love of country. These are the people who start wars in their bid for world dominance so they can steal and plunder the riches of all countries and civilizations. Thank God China, India, and Russia have grown rich and strong enough to offer some kind of alternative future to the one these sociopaths would like to curse us with.
My advice is that don’t point out their ignorance and let them be stupider and stupider so that we can continue to have this unending real life ‘comedies’ for years to come.
@@sootoongkok9813 sadly this comedy is also going to directly send us to hell…so we gotta be on guard😅😅
They have been "brainwashed" without even knowing it😢
Agree completely
Only yesterday I was telling Alex from Reporterfy Media that you guys were becoming the most trusted source for geopolitical analysis on China.
Point proven. 👏
That's because of Cyrus' objectivity. He is not afraid to point out the good and the bad for China. No country is perfect.
Cyrus barely said anything other than CPC restricting to 45mins under 18!
Basically he was agreeing with the hawk that China is that horrible authoritarian regime that ban and arrest people at will!!!
Falun Gong media is still the most "trusted"
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Appreciate that mate!
The irony of Elwood saying the state should not impose itself and control the message amd destroy criticism and arrest people who say things against the state, when we have just done the exact same thing over people rightfully peacefully dissenting over Israel and our complicity with that regime. At least China does what they do for the good of the country, we do what we do for the good of another country entirely. Israel, Ukraine, everyone is favoured except for our own!
Edit: also China is not a Totalitarian state.
We lie
We stole
We cheat
- Former CIA director, Mike Pompeo
Mike Pompeo wants to be the next president. Holding up his right hand on the bible, ' we lied, we stole we cheated, we murdered. That should go down well.
Taken out of context
No doubt that United State do lie,do stole and do cheat.
NO, IT IS NOT. They also murder their own people Hell, they even assassinate their own president, one who was unbelievably popular because he would not go along with forever wars so the MIC could keep the blood money flowing to the Political class. @@hengchen6688
@@hengchen6688OMG - that's all the West does is lie steal & exploit, cheat, break any signed treaties & agreements they negotiated with who thought in good faith, whenever they want!!
Wake up buddy😮
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We've reached a sorry state in the UK when people like Ellwood can blatantly misrepresent facts. This isn't an exhaustive list from what I've gathered from this clip but here goes:
i. The UK found NO security threats in Huawei [see Vince Cable's admission] - it was only after BoJo went to Australia as Foreign Minister that he changed his tune after being leaned on by the Baldie [Aussie Defence Minister?] on behalf of the US.
ii. What Rules Based Order is TE referring to? Is there a published (& universally accepted) set? The Rules which should be observed are those voted in by the UN or other authorities like the WTO.
Looks like TE hasn't learnt from his drubbing by George Galloway in their recent Oxford debate.
The bottom line is China can do without the UK - the question is why are we so intent on digging a deeper hole for ourselves by siding with a fading bully instead of taking the morally & ethically correct course of steering a middle course that is right for Britain?
Well said
Excellent couldn’t have said it any better 👍🏼
"China can do without UK" - then de-couple. Britain future is best served within an alliance with like minded nations with whom we share common goals and values. On our own we are very much a small country that China will push around. We saw that in the Comments Xi made to Justin Trudeau. CCP talk down and insults a middle ranking western power - and the CCP rejoices!
Excellent response.
@@Andy-P You've got it backwards - it's Britain that wants to de-couple. What is your main 'common goal & value'?
Since when has China pushed the UK around?
2:20 when a western "analyst" says international rules based order, it means what the west would like to impose on the rest of the world based order.
The international rules-based order that they can overrule.
International rules based order really needs more memes.
It aged well.
Thanks!
Thank you for the support
If TikTok was American then everyone would be lauding it as a huge success.
Yup, the double standards is palpable.
Absolutely true. The fact is that it's not American company, isn't that the reason why all these politicians are trying to ban it?
US government is trying to force Tiktok to sell the company to US companies. What does this tell the world?
Yep and who cAres that they would work for CIA like Twitter and Facebook🤣
Too true comrade Nook
Tiktok in US, the data servers are in Virginia, managed by Americans.
Each country has their own cultures. Rules and laws. It ain't one size fits all approach. Each country should establish their own Tiktok version based on their rules and laws. The so called "threat" are based on hypertheorical narratives but no factual evidences present to back up the claim of threat.
Nope the TikTok in USA under US laws are complete cancer
Do you work for the Defense Of Department of the United States? What's your clearance level to sensitive information, or simple put where are you on the "NEED TO KNOW" totem pole?
ok now America is defending their culture??? but promoting same sex marriage to other countries is ok???
@@804MRMAN he seems to have enough clearance to know that the balloon scare was a setup, the Ukrainians are being thrown under the bus to protect the US from fallout on the pipeline blowout and more.
How deep in the hole are you?
I admire your calm demeanor and patience. The media narrative is unbearable. Meanwhile China is taking the high road.
And they will continue to succeed, while leaving their haters behind. Even Piers Morgan was full of it
The same thing that we accuse tik tok of doing Facebook does it much better!!!
A sincere round of applause to you Cyrus. The world needs more voice and clear minds like yours, it surely would benefit all of us if everybody, particularly in the west can see things clearly.Thank you.
Appreciate the support
They only gave you like 10% of the time to get your point across, and you STILL nailed it. Great job!
China has won the world. USA and UK need to humble themselves
Yeah! I really wish I had more time...I was the least experienced of the three, first time on a big TV show like this, next time I'll be a bit more aggressive
@@CyrusJanssen unfortunately people who watches TV want drama and entertainment not logic and common sence, keep the calm status you doing great
@@CyrusJanssen --- Been living in China too long? You gave up being aggressive....
@@CyrusJanssen Yes, Cyrus you should be, next time.
Plus, if you truly want to stand out and up in what you believe in, then be prepared to always drive home your point to them by subtly and even sometimes aggressively showing them a mirror image of the same things they accuse other powerful nations of doing in their own systems and policies.
That's exactly the way Russell Brand handles these hypocrites.
We can't have a sane, respectful and just world unless people like you with a strong voice speak the truth in the right way to these people.
You didn't do badly, though. But I'm sure next time you'd better.
Cyrus, you presented facts in a classy manner -calm and firm and that poor chair of defence is still so convinced that Tiny Britain has a YUGE tool. I have to say that ignorance and arrogance is the worst combo.
Terrible combo for sure!
@@CyrusJanssen It's their human rights to insist on being stubborn and stupid.
对美国有利时--“必须遵守规则！”
对美国不利时--创造一条新规则来取代原规则！
As a Chinese, I would say we can't control what others are saying or their prejudice against China, we will still focus on our stuff, keep moving and try our best to make a better life for the public. we were bullied heavily before, so we know how important for the human to live peacefully and harmoniously, which is good for everyone and every country existing in the same planet. Please don't stay in your box to think and give opinions for others who you never have a conversation with.
Been to China THREE times, son teaches English, IT'S A HELL HOLE.. PERIOD.. Last time was really, really BAD, just before covid lockdown.. NO sewage systems, NO baths-just showers, STINK coming from shower drains EVERYWHERE, they sell air fresheners everywhere that you put in the shower drains because of the smells.. Leave the big cities and you enter America in 1860, except for a single electric wire into the house.. Well pumps in the kitchens, fields fertilized with human waste.. The smells are really bad.. This is HIS girlfriends parents house 20 miles outside a large city.. Communal bathroom for the town, EVERYBODY showers and uses the bathroom there TOGETHER.. Male and Female..LOL..LOL.. You take a dump and put the paper into a bin in the center of the bathroom, imagine the smell.. The food is dangerous.. First thing when you wake up is boil your daily water in a 3 gallon ceramic bowl and you use that to do anything that goes inside you or touches your lips.. EVERYBODY does this, RICH AND POOR.. Crazy prostitution houses on every block in the cities, THAT SURPRISED ME.. No signs for them, BUT, EVERYBODY knows where they are and what they are for...LOL..I guess the kickbacks are tremendous.. Small 3-wheeled diesel putt-putts are EVERYWHERE spewing black smoke.. The sky often becomes ORANGE because of the pollution.. Get sick, you get the 12 pills, FOR EVERYTHING.. Some kind of herbs or something.. Need REAL CARE, you have to go to the western hospital in Beijing.. OTHERWISE, you DIE.. Warlords rule in a lot of the country, especially the western areas.. They LOVE KARAOKE, they have entire buildings of 12 stories devoted to it, with different types of music on each floor..
You are so right Ivy Liu, we need to stand tall, no more bullying. Greetings from New Zealand.
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@ Liu Ivy 😂😂😂, too bad you are not in a Zhao family
Great opening liner Lvy. Actually most Asians have this mindset. Do what we can do, ignore what others have against us, usually unfounded and baseless allegations, but single-side perceptions or worse, hearsays. That’s no way gonna improve our lives.
I’m from Singapore, and Singaporeans are living a peaceful life in a relatively crime free and beautiful environment. I’ve got comments from ignorant westerns saying Singapore is having harsh laws and fine it’s citizens freely. The problem is, westerners don’t seem to understand that we don’t like crimes, or tolerate that, hence we avoid getting into situations that will be on the wrong side of the law. How would anyone get punished one way or another, when we embrace the laws to make our country crime free? Then they came up with bs like Singaporeans can’t own guns or do drugs freely. God, why do we want firearms to seep into our social system, where one can live in fear, walk into the streets unbeknownst the person next to you may be a threat to your own life, and they the same thinking about you? Mistrust and stuffs, rather than protection. And drugs, a huge social ill, and they expect to want us to follow the west into the doldrums of zombieland? What for? The people will be an economic and social burden, stressing on the medical capacity of any country.
So let’s just do as you’ve mentioned. Let them say all they like, we will just enjoy our peace and environment. Let them concoct their own impressions and dwell in their dark thoughts while we all will keep on progressing
I remember in 2018, I posted a suggestion thru Chinese gov website, to get it done, I had to fill in the real name and phone number as required. I thought it would probably get ignored, turned out a month ish later, I got a phone call which I thought it was a scam, instead, the guy identified himself as a gov employee who was to feedback what I suggested as the standard procedure. He expressed what I suggested was hard to achieve at the moment, explained some of the difficulties they were facing, confliction to the law, regulations, and the civil development requirements, which never crossed my mind to consider them in. There are always something you don’t know, which applies to an average citizen like me, not to mention a foreigner who never step a foot onto China’s soil.
its weird right when Big country like china being reported by Media so BS?
My media in my country in SEA getting references from western media so it's sometimes difficult to get true and neutral international news.
Cause in a Western democracy setting, citizens have the power to change the leaders but they forgotten that you can hardly change the policies only empty and mostly outrageous election campaign promises. China's system is not just one dictator as West loves to portray but a rather a huge committee overseeing, discussing and evaluating options. Hard to explain to Americans who literally accepts the headlines as gospel truth without fact checking. And even lies after lies are in the open, they still adore those lying hypocrites in office!
Many westerners still failed to recognise the difference of the cultures. They put all kind of blames on the government but they did not bother to find out was that what the people wanted or the people actually the ones that pushed for it to happen.
@@KelvinLKY Western is an ego centric culture where everything revolves around Me, Me and Me which basically means I do want I want = freedom and human rights. However their equation is flawed and doesn't take into account the majority's wishes which is funny when at the same breath they talk about democracy which equates to majority wins. Yet they allow the minority (Woke LBGTQ) to enforce on the majority sex change on kids. West will even support known terrorists who fight against a common enemy yet at the same breath scream about terrorists and the need to invade Sovereign countries and change the government. The meaning of Hypocrisy has been totally eradicated from the English language and dictionary
@@zelenskythegaynazi8680I agree, apart from the 'enforcing sex change on kids'' assertion. That is just more Trumpian/Maga nonsense.
Elwood is massively uninformed and paranoid about what is supposed to his field of expertise and Morgan seems to be equally clueless about every subject I've ever heard him speak about.
❤️ Cyrus - you are a wonderful spokesman for educating the world the TRUTH about China 🇨🇳 There is so much distrust right now, and I feel you truly helped. Well done 👍
will keep working hard
I agree.
This racist ignorant bias nincompoop just gapping n spewing his silly views😂😂😂😂
American propaganda is so good, that Americans themselves are the first ones to believe it all 😂...
At least in the old communist world the population knew they were being propagandised. In the West most are too naive to even see it 🙄
In America, or the West, there are a diversity of opinions and ideas...in China there is one
exactly
In the West & the US, If they wanted to arrest anyone, they simply says that person is at risk to their national security. Edward Snowden from the US and Julian Assange from Australia are the classic example of that.
And Scott Ritter when he spoke out about Iraq
In China you are disappeared for passing by a "white paper protest" as they track your phone and watch every move on cam.
@@richardsharpe4884 Only a handful !! At least in a transparent society, you know that.
@@davethewanderer4520there is no society is transparent. all informations we get are filtered by the main social media and the government. we are seemed can give our own opinions when ever we can. but these opinions depend on those informations we got from those main social medias. by this way, they guide the population' s speech, and made our believe that we have the "Freedom of speech".
@@zhengwang5331 Sure every source of information are biased in one way, in a TRANSPARENT society, there are freedom to read from MANY different sources, one can then evaluate the facts, not just one FULLY CONTROLLED channel.
Of course, if you think a single source of information is reliable, then you believe what you want to believe, or what they want you to believe, no other options.
It is your choice, assuming you are real person who is genuine wanting to be better informed.
In CCP China, no one knows what is happening for sure, there lies the lies.
@2:14 is he joking! Which order is he talking about - one that facilitates a whole scale genocide in full media glare?
I. Am Irish I worked with Chinese people for 20 years they changed my life best
People ❤. I know
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That’s why Irish move on!
U cannot work with China and not love them. The insane profit margins d west created is not their style. No Chinese CEO is on $200million a year
Your kind of attitude is the reason Ireland is a leading economy in the EU with an extremely high standard of living , able to work with both sides. ☘️
@@michaelorourke2898 Chinese people are great. But not the government.
@@dropby1913 their govt did not attack other countries , never cause to topple another country govt ?
The interviewer was sooo afraid to be politically incorrect 🤣
This is western freedom of speech😂
Good point lol.
When was he trying to be politically correct
didn't see that, and if I'm correct Pierce Morgan is famous for not adhering to those
As an American, I am in pain, how can you live in peace, we have to bring you war, because the world operates according to our rules, we are the god of the world, everyone must follow our rules, otherwise any disobedient Countries are our potential enemies, we must find a way to make them go to war
@@joannesmith1175 to be political correct these days is not only to defend black lives matter and lgbt but also to unrelenting demonize china
I certainly trust more someone who actually lived in China then what non-friends of China are saying.
Spot on! As a person living in China I am amazed at the amount of paranoia the west is suddenly having towards China, they must focus on the decline, economically, socially etc...
why dont you move to hyena ? what are you waiting on ?
Relax and enjoy the Western shows: let it be & let it go; they know the words but don’t understand the outside world; they know the technology but don’t understand the mechanism; they win their games but don’t win other people’s hearts
@miroceperkovic6201, I love you.
I'm from Hong Kong and I will never forget what the Chinese gov't did to us
Thank you Cyrus for your fair and honest comments. 👍👍👏
Man, Cyrus I gotta give you props for keeping a straight face while listening to this BS from Tobias.
I am flipping out here when he dares to almost be in denial of China doing good by actually helping the youth and limiting their time on SM.
It was hard...especially that opening dialogue from Tobias, made me want to roll my eyes backward
cyrus is so cool headed. i wish i had his cool temper !
i don’t mind if these western governments don’t want to learn from china for options to solve common problems. but i do have an issue with them when they try to prevent other countries from learning from china’s experience and force them to take their less effective solutions that haven’t worked for the past several decades.
@Cyrus Janssen Tobias sounds like someone from the US republican party.
@Cyrus Janssen he was one of Boris Johnson ,s biggest supporters which explains a lot
I admired Cyrus's calmness during this exchange. The chinese government's position during western attacks: Stay calm. I suggest all pro china people should do the same. Ignore the noise and stay calm. If China avoid conflict, time is on the side of China's rise.
The other two think that they know China very well, actually they DONT. It may be a good thing that let them think that they are more superior in doing their things and keep living in a box they made for themselves.
Usually when people say or claim they know China, it is always the opposite. How can really one know other cultures/social behavior if they never been to China or live long enough there....
They think they come there as tourists and know it all after making a 30 minute movie😂
@@hardshell9236 exactly, that’s what they always did
Please don't misunderstand them. They don't care to know China, they're talking to a domestic audience to prepare that audience for hostility towards China.
you shouldve brought up the FBIs manipulation of twitter
The assumption that only China’s government is not trustful and ill intended sounds like a compliment of uniqueness…
Congratulations, Cyrus, the interview is a result of your long time effort in keeping speech impartial, which is rare in nowadays.
Thank you!
Cyrus, you are a great bridge between US and China. You have been trying to build understanding, peace and respect between these two countries. We all love you!
Congratulations Cyrus, on being invited to the show! Your presence helps in spreading the truth. You did a good job and I hope you get to be invited to more shows. 👏
Appreciate it! It was a big honor
think Cyrus was invited to be put down ...
but he didn't back down ...
tho, all had fallen onto deaf ears ...
tobias was constantly shaking his head ... pre-conceived gestures,
from pre-notions ...
a chair of defense committee :-/
@@sang-suangam9772yes, it says a lot about the ignorance there sadly 😢
supposedly a journalist who has already mentioned the rules-based order twice is not a journalist, he is a propagandist. By the way, where can I download and print this "rule based order"?
When the UK guy refers to international rules and order, anyone with half a brain knows it's the UK and USA rules and order. The U.S. will change the rule anytime it doesn't fit it's interest and make up new ones at will. Just saying...
the idiot uk guy is english ! and westminster gov. take ORDERS from corrupt washington gov ! when will it become the 51st. state ? from the colony of scotland ! ALABA GU BRATH
That Tobias guy is as solid as rock in his belief. No arguments/inputs anything positive about China will be absorbed by his brain. In his way of thinking, the Chinese can do nothing good. If Tiktok was an American company, I am sure he will agree. I love how calm Cyrus here.
they need to be anti china to become USA official
He kept his answers brief and to the point and didn't bother engaging with the other guy because he knows the other guy won't listen to them anyway.
you ought to watch the recent debate between him and George Galloway. George totally trashed him. this Ellwoody guy is a total idiot.
Perhaps Tobias is not so much solid as a rock but rather, a block of dead WOOD.
@@vincentho3964 lol
Thanks again Cyrus. We need more people like you, who dare to speak the truth about China. 💪🇨🇳❤️
No not at all, China is not a security threat to UK or US nor is TikTok a security threat to anyone. TikTok is just a public media to serve the public.Tobias and the host Morgan are obviously very highly biased and prejudiced westerners who have already made up their mind that China or Russia are evil and untrustworthy.And therefore have to be put down at all costs. It's very sad indeed both of them have not shed their fear of the "yellow peril" and " defend the British Empire" at all cost. Such mentality are very dangerous and insiduos for forging mutual understanding.
Tik tok is no body’s threat, only the west and India wants to ban it coz tik tok has gained its popularity so much that they can’t come up with substitute having same public rating. They would ban only on paper- like india~ millions of India youth loves tik tok even if it was banned.
Cyrus is the one who really understand China
USA is monitoring internet also, and if you say something that they think is dangerous for USA country, they will jail you.
Not just jail. Disappeared.
I am a Filipino many Filipinos are divided between China, but one thing that I personally learn about. Never believe on western news especially most of them exaggerated the story to support on their political idea. As a Filipino I've constantly encountered many harsh news against our nations in general. Especially during the past couple of years when we have a very controversial leader I've say this, many people in South America even in the US itself has drug related incident. Murder, shooting all of it or most of it are link with Drugs. The problem of South American countries especially in criminality is very common past years before President Duterte became the leader. Now we don't have same problem when it comes to drugs and criminality. The crime went down but the Western media only talks about the lives of drug suspects but they ignore the impact of the war against Drugs positively to the community. Add to that before in the Philippines Streets especially during night is dangerous now no one is saying that streets are dangerous in our country. The thing I learned is western media exaggerate stories and never told the whole story in general. Even if China and the Philippines my country has territorial dispute I never generally say that they are just pure evil.. I'm not retarded to believe what I heard in the news. I have a tendency that actually search what I heard to the news to another sources that has complet story of the news to avoid the brainwashed.
Well said. If you want to know China better, go to China at least one in your lifetime, it will open up your eye and mind, we Chinese are not afraid to be criticized, but the words have to be fair.
Pres. Duterte was also the reason why I eventually had to see the bigger picture of geopolitics and stop hating China so incessantly. The fact that Barack Obama and the US government sanctioned us, our so-called "closest ally" proves that they have no real intention of helping us out on improving our country's situation since it collides with the interests of the privileged view both here and the US.
In fact, the territorial disputes between China and neighboring countries are all instigated by Western countries led by the United States.
Believe whatever you want to at your own peril.
Totally agreed with you. The USA just want to make and keep Phillipines like in the pre War and post War time as it it. Their Rich men playground. 😞
1:40 China brought up more than 0.333 of its people to middle class, while in America and Britain middle class people are vanishing.
I let you choose any word synonymous with buzz off. as long as it's HARSH
I am not gonna lie I hate American propaganda about China.
Join the club!!
As a South African, I do too. Whenever the US does anything here, we end up in deebt. When China comes, we have new factories, roads and hospitals, and not as much money is owed to them.
Same
These 2 clowns, left and center, don’t even realize that they live in inverted totalitarianism. “Inverted totalitarianism, unlike classical totalitarianism, does not revolve around a demagogue or charismatic leader. It finds expression in the anonymity of the Corporate State. It purports to cherish democracy, patriotism, and the Constitution while manipulating internal levers.”
― Chris Hedges , Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle
And the UK and Canada too. They are lapdogs of the US and repeat everything that their master says. Not only that, but they insist that the so-called rule-based order which has American interest first is the only order for other countries to follow. How arrogant and foolish!
When Cyrus said Chinese people could give feedback to gov on social media, Ellwood's first reaction is like a shaking head doll. He shake his head pretending he knows everything very well about China. It made him look very very very stupid.
Funny thing is the UK government certainly do not listen from feedback from the people. How Ellwood is in power and how this country is letting him send weapons to Ukraine is fucking mindblowing
Yeah, ellwood's really "hating" China on this talk. I wonder is media in US like "Hating" china everytime? Looks like US love to makes enemy.
Then try to provide some feedback disagree with CCP's policy on Chinese social media, and check if your account is locked, assuming you could registet an account and write some Chinese😂
im a chinese, I had same reaction when Cyrus said that. it is true that we can comment on the government, we just need to make sure our feedbacks are very positive😅, negative comments will be removed very efficiently.
Looks Don't Lie--HaHa!
Good to see that you are getting some air time with the British mainstream media. Piers Morgan is considered a moderate and is usually quite rational during his interviews. The misinformation about China is very widespread and pervasive in the West so it is not hard to imagine why he said what he said in closing.
if piers were anymore rational on china he would be cancelled as a china sympathisizer....
has there been debate like this years ago about facebook? The UK never had trouble having US company taking their data. why? what's different?
that ellwood guy almost had a heartattack when morgan merely suggested that maybe something the 'evil' ccp does is good and worth learning.
People like Ellwood have literally zero solutions to modern problems. They just like to blow hot air and blame a foreign boogie man.
hahah that was my fav part....what the clip again and see my massive smile
i thought he was going to cry! 😂
😂😂...
and morgan almost had to backtrack all the way out of the studio just goes to show you how much freedom of speech they really have in the media. imagine the nerve to say anything positive about the evil commies.
It's so ironic that both the US and UK always talked about rule based international order but vague about what those rules are. And they had been the most notorious rule breakers when they did not like the rules. They consider themselves above all the rules.
Want to know Chinese rules, check Russian
Don't forget all the government buildings they build In Africa with full of hidden microphones and cameras in the desk and walls.
and china also builded up their servers for them... somehow the data of all the employees were being uploaded every night to Shanghai.
How strange, it must be a "lie" or “im racist” , you know if Apple does fraud and you blame Apple, it means ur racist
When the western mainstream media talks about "The International Rule Based Order" they are referring to "The US Based International Order" ! Rules are not laws and the only international based laws is from the collective agreements of the United Nations of which the US is not signatory member of ! The word "International" in capital is not the same as the word "international" in lower case !
Agree
The rule is whatever the rule the US or UK happen to decide to set at the time without consultation to its own ppl(all country vote) or to the world, and yet they say 'their' rule base is good, the rest are all BAD
you were a great breath of fresh air amidst the warmongers.
prrd was doing a balacing act between us and china b4 rental income is made on clark and subic bases now it became 10 areas did the rental increase 5x or its free of charge some officials in the north squandered hundred of millions of pesos. was it the rental bribe income from vfa us bases and now small fisherman is under threat to be arrested by simply fishing this the delicate balancing act PRRD has to do to protect the livelihood of our fishermen in wps. and not exhange for brave empty words. nothing is easy the
problem is china is not afraid of the USA any longer and phil become the fontline canon ball for the usa china is challenging everyone japan korea vietnam india taiwan if we are attack the us soldiers will not help until US congress give its okay to assist maybe in 1 year time
Its in the interest of the USA to throw us in dragons mouth than taiwan since the chip tech interest of the west is in taiwan and they cannot afford while they regard as monkeys that can be sacrifice 3:36 3:36
2 british colonialists talking about trust. the irony. lmao.
Me toooooooooooooooo
And how “totalitarian” China is
2 british offsprings of opium trafficker. talking about the benefits of opium consumption
So true!!!
You hit the nail on the head!!!
@0.50-1:23: I was laughing when Piece Morgan said, Tik Tok was controlled by China state. If it were so what?
Look at Utube, Twitter, Facebook are not controlled by US state? CIA isn't involved in controlling the narratives?
Comments they don't like are shadow banned. It's happened to me and others I know so many times.
This is the level of hypocrisy and ignorance they have in the west!!
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I think RUclips censorship is more a security threat than Tik Tok !
Spot on
RUclips belongs to Google. Google quit from China in 2011 because it didn't want to follow China's rules.
100% agreed with you RUclips, Twitter and Facebook is more a danger to us.
@@jezreelinternational How do you guys figure out that one social media platform is more or less harmful than the other? Explain please.
@@Cedfer69 because they push propaganda to gullible people like maybe yourself?
Want proof - 2016 trump used facebook to win voter confidence.
2020 biden used twitter to do the same.
Whats ur evidence for tictok? None!
The fact that you were on the news shows how your voice and efforts are being heard.
dumb and dumber, both will be rewarded to lick Xi JinPing asshole soon.
Why didn't you ask him " why are you so worried about Tik Tok , but turn a blind eye to Facebook that actually works in conjunction with police forces around the world ? " Facebook also sells your private information ! And we won't even mention RUclips 🤣
Spot on
USA just passed a law to arrest any person who against Isreal😂😂😂 But since USA use a democratic way to elect their president, therefore this is legitimated.
The same logic of Western media seems to be if Netanyahu is elected democratically and with the support of his citizen, then he can do whatever he wants in Gaza.
I think Tobias would oppose anything that’s China related. I wonder if he holds the same view on all the furnitures he buys. LOL
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By listening to this Tobias, I feel he has no Idea of any technology, only brainlessly copy what the US political government nonsense losers said. I’m ashamed to be American citizen due to this super stupid, uneducated and messy US government clowns driving the country to the hell in every way!
It's shocking to see the west being scared of what they have been doing to others for centuries, amazing grace 😭😭
The hypocrisy is baffling to me
😂😂😂
Lol
🤣🤣🤣💗💗
To arrest people that say something against the state....ring ring Julian Assange is calling lmao
@WiseFool888👍👍👍👍👍👍Amen
8:22 'I don't believe the state should be imposing its rules'. Oh the irony, isn't that what the US is trying to do on TikTok? 😂
It is his belief not reality based on fact and empirical data 🤣
Not when it comes to national security.
@@TenTenJ why when China says that, it is wrong?
Guess who else ban Tiktok? CHINA
But isn't RUclips and Facebook banned in China? Isn't that state control?
Good job for keeping your calm when talking w these folks, keep up the good work!
For someone in the position as an MP, I felt embarrassed for his ignorance and sorry for the British people.
Yes most of the MPs are ignorant because they are scared of knowing that China’s government works. The West and US are all dysfunctional.
agreed. putting politics aside, must have failed in logics.
Same! I enjoy watching each time that ignorant guy shakes his head.
American congressmen are the same. I used to trust the West so much before I was 20. Now my trust in them is -10 on a scale of 1-10.
@Franklin Penguin I think the ignorant person might be you guys.
An English MP talking about China arresting people posting things on social media. Doesn’t he see the irony 😂😂😂😂
US banned Huawei … so it can have exclusive rights on monitoring your device and data 😂
The NSA heven tap Merkle and Lula, hahaha
Ain't that the TRUTH 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nobody ever articulates what rules constitute the "rules based order".
The "rules based order" is really: the US makes the rules, breaks every rule when it suits the US, and orders the world around.
Lavrov mentioned that. He said no one has ever seen a copy of these so-called rules.
AMERICAN DIKTAT...
“We make the rules, you stay in order”
@@Haibing22 what rules?
Mr. "Too Biased" seems to be a very accurate name.
I grew up in a BRITISH COLONY ANC AT THE AGE OF 80 I am learning by reading independent version of colonialism and ethnic cleansing. Just in TIME TO EDUCATE MY GRAND GRAND FAMILY HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO EXCERCISE YOUR RIGHT OF VOTE ❤❤❤
Thank you Cyrus for bearing with these ignorant people to lay down our side of the facts.
No use talking to these carrot heads😅
Ignorance is not that bad by itself, the bigger problem is arrogance.
Dear Cyrus. I'm glad you remained composed, polite and logical while sharing your insights and experience regarding China when talking to such ignorant and narrow-minded people in the show, who always expectedly spew their western propaganda narratives about China. It is worst than taking to a wall.
Can we trust Elwood
Sir, you have mastered the art of debate, calmness, poise and respect! You are the only one who spoke the honest truth here. May peace be always with you. Thank you for your contribution to humanity in speaking the truth
He is forwarding Chinese propaganda. IOW, he lies.
Yep. He pointed out the problem China is trying to solve. National security guy is basically trying to paint a picture of everything is about security, when in the reality the main reason they do X, Y, and Z is to fix everyday problems. Once you see the problem they try to fix, your solution might not be all that different.
@@henli-rw5dw The CCP is interested in only one thing -- keeping power. They care nothing about the population.
BRAVO TO CYRUS JANSSEN. CLEAR-MINDED N HONEST N COURAGEOUS!
The irony of this conversation from the past with what we see happening in the UK now...
This is my 2nd comment ever posted on RUclips. I just want to say that your presentation of evidence and calm demeanor when counter-arguing Western propaganda is Top notch! I just hope more of Western society can keep an open mind and engage with the facts before they echo western criticism of China.
Well done and keep up the good work with informing those who seek a balanced point of view!
If China was benign, Taiwan wouldn’t be in its sights. Even Mao held Taiwan to be an independent territory.
@@petersinclair3997 The ROC constitution states that Taiwan is part of China. There are no if and and buts about Taiwan being part of China. Only a handful of small countries who depend on the largesse from Taiwan recognize Taiwan as the government of all of China. Note that even those countries do not dispute the one china principle. Even the Americans have recognized that fact and agreed with the Shanghai Communiques.
@@petersinclair3997 Mainland China is clearly being benign, it's the US House of Representative speaker's visit to the island that's increasing cross-strait tensions. If you go and read Taiwan's own constitution, it states that the island is part of China.
Agree 👍
Sadly some "people" really disrespect culture from other countries and trying to change it with "their" way of style , Keep up the good work Cyrus
Enjoy your shallow interpretation of the US mindset n foreign policies. Learn more about geopolitics
@@yaoliang1580that is the US might set they want everyone to speak English, have democracy, consume Hollywood, enjoy American and American culture believe in the American dream and trust that America and American is superior to their own and thus emulate and obey America by doing so it destroys local culture and tries to bring them under the American umbrella
Much appreciated for your efforts! If only more people in the west are like you.
People in the west are too poor to travel the world. That's why they stuck in that little puddle.
People who travels the world, are the only who can see the different. A quick visit don't even change much either.
Right...I was laughing the moment the MP slapped his own face with that comment about "anonymity".
Cyrus’s expression as the Elwood was chanting slogans is priceless.
haha couldn't help myself!
chanting is the perfect word , yes! i love it!
I love objective honest fair people and processes. Im not even Chinese, I am Southern African, Namibian to be exact but you sir have just won yourself a subscriber to your channel. Stay true to humanity.
You're right Cyrus!You make strong points.
New subscriber from The Philippines. How I wish I could visit China.
Know the people, places, cultures, the food, herbs and spices. All of it!!
그 사람의 말에서 나는 서양의 오만함을 보았다
Saya sangat setuju sekali dengan anda.
You should’ve yelled out FREE ASSANGE at the end 😂✌🏾🤙🏾
Next time!
Cyrus, good education. The MP knows nothing about those
Can we trust the Chinese blah blah. And the part where he keeps mentioning International Based Rules when they are flagrantly break them and show the middle finger to judicial bodies such as the ICC and ICJ is laughable.