Did a reupload because instructions pics didn’t load 😬 thanks for pointing this out. If you have any other tips for assembling this team, comment below for other hobbyists!
Great tips. I just finished building mine and I did a little snipping and gluing to make another hot shot las pistol for the gunfighter. I modeled him with the arm holding the bolt pistol, but I cut off the barrel of the pistol and the magazine. I used one of the extra hot shot lasguns for the replacement parts, removing its barrel and hot shot power pack, which I glued in place to the gunfighters pistol. It is a simply conversion and looks great!
Thank you for this video, I just ordered the Hivestorm box but haven't decided if I will keep both Kill Teams included or just sell them off - either way, this video was very helpful!
i was wondering the same - having grabbed a box of 5. good to have it answered . ty. ( i had also considered putting a right hand sword/chain on and then lots of pistols options for the left emerge
@@almostpainted yeah. think I will also do the conversion for the Melta gunner since it seems like we only need 3 Troopers in the list and the box builds 4. good to know one of the poses is easy to covert, cheers :)
I ran into this, easy fix, took my clippers and used one of many arms with shoulder pads left over and took off the arm. Shoulder pad fit no problem and not noticeable!
Thanks for the comments! I now know which standard trooper i need to modify to be a specialist. On the note of the laspistol, i have seen people modifying the bolt pistol with las parts from a left over gun to make ot look like a laspistol.
I just cutted battery pack and round thingy from hotshot carabine and put it on the vet guard las pistol. As for gunner - A10 tropper could be used quite easily.
Honestly, I'd kind of rather put the bolt pistol on my sergeant anyway; when I ran Kasrkins in KT21 I rarely if ever had my sergeant in melee - and generally if I did I had already basically lost the game. So I feel like I'll get more use out of the bolt pistol than the power sword. As far as the gunner goes, I'm thinking I'm going to try to magnetize the melta and plasma carbines so I can swap the plasma gunner for the melta in Close Quarters maps. The sentry's weapons can be pressure-fit, so I can use the grenade launcher for elite teams or the volley gun (or maybe flamer in Close Quarters?) for hordes.
I end up doing the same 😅 when I will REALLY want to test the power sword I’ll just talk to my opponent and play more casual. As of weapons I want to play aggressively so I’m dropping the sniper
Quick workaround for people that also build he Deathcorps: Chances are, you have AT LEAST 1 Las-Pistol left over from that kill team, maybe even still in the sprue, just kitbash it by dislocating the Death Corps Las Pistol at the wrist and use it instead of the Relic Bolt Pistol (which you also just dislocate at the wrist). Very simple weapon swap :)
Typical GW. They have pulled the same scam all the way back to the Vet Guard figures in Octarius. That set used the same unique arm on at least 3 different operatives. IMO is a deliberate choice by GW to try and force you to buy a second box. 😠
joke's on them. i just got a bunch of 3d printed kriegers for every one of the gunners, then used the vet guard box to build the sergeant, confident w/boltgun, and every specialist. bonus points i also got the four ancillary troopers. especially since the ork box came with more than everything you'd need for their team, like heck off.
I fell into this pitfall literally instantly! Arrggg!! It all worked out though in the end. I took the pointing finger arm, chopped off the hand and replaced it with the bolt pistol. Put that onto the pistolier and voila! Dual wielding pistols. Don't care about WYSIWYG, Cause he can't hold the bolt pistol anyways lol.
Put the whole thing together before I realized double gunners was legal. Found this, used some glue to melt my guy's arms off and am now hoping an overnight cure will let the plasmagun stick. If not, then hopefully I can either glue it or superglue it enough to hold me over until someone starts selling single bits.
@@almostpainted that’d work too. I mean most likely I’ll find one in my bits box BUT if I didn’t have that blue stuff is very useful for this specific use case
It depends really - tempestor even with blade isn’t really great melee threat BUT higher dmg weapon gives better chance to kill attacker during retaliation and lethal 5+ give higher chance to block a crit, depending if you can kill attacker or want to block. He won’t stop Night Lord, but against say kroot 😅 bolt pistol is equally deadly, but you need to be in charge range to use it, and if opponent has good save (rubric marines with 2+ and ignoring piercing…) melee is your only chance 😬 So it boils down to how you want to use him. I went with bolt pistol because I locked myself from building options (hence the video) and it is very good loadout, but with 3APL he can shoot, charge and fight, so I feel the power weapon’s higher dmg would allow him to be more of a threat with my aggressive playstyle
Damn i just finished assembling mine without the gun fighter since the lasgun is already with the captain. 😢 Oh well, ended up with the cap'n with powersword, gunner, marksman, and the rest are troopers. 😅
Similar with the Cadian Shock Troops. All these mutually exclusive bits and assemblies that can only work one way often seem superfluous to the dynamic poses they have.
Yeah, I miss the universality of the older designs, but must admit the new sculpts are sharp so it’s a tough trade off. My biggest problem here is really one missing pistol that would go a long way. Also the arms - it’s in CAD so it should be super easy to make sure two guys can have either a special weapon or lasgun. Luckily it’s still all easily doable, just something to keep in mind before assembling, hence the video 😁
Yeah, with holster and pointing arm on tempestor you can magnetize the sword arm and have all options :D just sad he and gunfighter can’t have both straight arms…
That’s the neat part! They don’t 😅 Any guard one will fit as the models have nice place on the hip guards, but yeah… pointing finger, no pistol, and magnetized sword arm will be quite popular I assume and perfectly legal if you don’t have any spare holster. Also I heard that SM scouts have spare holsters that should fit, but will check it after work
Yeah, at least the guns separately. Arms can be glued, but the gun itself often covers the breastplate and it has the trim etc. The rest is rather accessible, though those are quite small models with sharp detail, so prepare some fine brush 🌝
I just gave my pistol guy the bolt pistol, dont think anybody will complain... :þ I was thinking it be nice to have the powerweapon for those 9-10 wound teams
Your welcome :) with good planning you can make all specialists from single kit so I guess it’s still better than some (cough, imperial henchmen, cough)
I’m not even sure this is intentional from GW, this might just be them being incredibly stupid and forgetting or not noticing it, lmao. Don’t think that’s any better than them intentionally doing it to force you to buy more boxes though.
I’m afraid it’s the latter 😅 because you CAN build every operative, it’s just easy to lock yourself from the parts. I’ve seen guerilla miniature gaming have their tempestor without the pauldron, because there is only one, so there is higher chance you’ll miss on looks rather than wysywig of the team, and if they wanted to push multi-kit buying I’d guess they’d make the arms less compatible between operatives
no nie pierwszy raz jak cos takiego jest, u Veteranów tez brakuje jednej reki i trzeba ucinac zeby pasowało ;pp pomijam ze chyba czesto tak jest ze jak chcesz miec wszystkich specjalistow z jednego boxa to czegos brakuje, rąk albo ciał wlasnie
Did a reupload because instructions pics didn’t load 😬 thanks for pointing this out. If you have any other tips for assembling this team, comment below for other hobbyists!
If you have a veteran (Death Korps) guard kill team, part 67 is a right-hand Las pistol; It looks a little different to the hotshot one, but works
Thank you
lmao damn, just commented the same thing xD
WOAAAH!!! GENIAL!!! justo lo tengo!!
Great tips. I just finished building mine and I did a little snipping and gluing to make another hot shot las pistol for the gunfighter. I modeled him with the arm holding the bolt pistol, but I cut off the barrel of the pistol and the magazine. I used one of the extra hot shot lasguns for the replacement parts, removing its barrel and hot shot power pack, which I glued in place to the gunfighters pistol. It is a simply conversion and looks great!
Thank you for this video, I just ordered the Hivestorm box but haven't decided if I will keep both Kill Teams included or just sell them off - either way, this video was very helpful!
Thankfully, I have butt loads of scion pistols from my numorous tempestus scion kits.
Thanks for the warning!
They should do the trick :D
i was wondering the same - having grabbed a box of 5. good to have it answered . ty. ( i had also considered putting a right hand sword/chain on and then lots of pistols options for the left emerge
Are the scion pistol different from the laspistol from the Imperial Guard kits from around 2010?
I dont play in tourneys, I think ill just build the captain with power sword and bolt pistol and tell my opponent its a las-pistol
Yeah, I think it’ll be perfectly understandable 😁
@@almostpainted yeah. think I will also do the conversion for the Melta gunner since it seems like we only need 3 Troopers in the list and the box builds 4. good to know one of the poses is easy to covert, cheers :)
Do bolt pistol fit in the gun slinger?
Getting my box soon so I'm glad this video popped up in my feed. Thanks for the info.
Good thing the box is cheap.... right?...right?
Thanks for the heads-up
GW plastic is never cheap. Get a printer
I ran into this, easy fix, took my clippers and used one of many arms with shoulder pads left over and took off the arm.
Shoulder pad fit no problem and not noticeable!
Thanks for the comments!
I now know which standard trooper i need to modify to be a specialist.
On the note of the laspistol, i have seen people modifying the bolt pistol with las parts from a left over gun to make ot look like a laspistol.
Super helpful, would have been fuming if I hadn’t found this.
I just co plete it as my first model and it worked perfectly! Thanks man you saved my kill team! :D
I just cutted battery pack and round thingy from hotshot carabine and put it on the vet guard las pistol. As for gunner - A10 tropper could be used quite easily.
Good advise!
This worked for me as well.
You can convert the bolt pistol into a las pistol and give it the bended arm and have the pistoleer doing the classic doom slayer pose.
Honestly, I'd kind of rather put the bolt pistol on my sergeant anyway; when I ran Kasrkins in KT21 I rarely if ever had my sergeant in melee - and generally if I did I had already basically lost the game. So I feel like I'll get more use out of the bolt pistol than the power sword. As far as the gunner goes, I'm thinking I'm going to try to magnetize the melta and plasma carbines so I can swap the plasma gunner for the melta in Close Quarters maps. The sentry's weapons can be pressure-fit, so I can use the grenade launcher for elite teams or the volley gun (or maybe flamer in Close Quarters?) for hordes.
I end up doing the same 😅 when I will REALLY want to test the power sword I’ll just talk to my opponent and play more casual. As of weapons I want to play aggressively so I’m dropping the sniper
Quick workaround for people that also build he Deathcorps: Chances are, you have AT LEAST 1 Las-Pistol left over from that kill team, maybe even still in the sprue, just kitbash it by dislocating the Death Corps Las Pistol at the wrist and use it instead of the Relic Bolt Pistol (which you also just dislocate at the wrist).
Very simple weapon swap :)
I was able to use the finger pointing hand and make it like a sideways held gun.
Good video thx - very frustrating they couldn't just include an extra
Thanks for making this kind of content, super helpful!!!
Glad to help :D
Can you kit bash using the tempestus scions or not? Thanks for any info
Thanks for the heads up mate!
Nice one for this mate saved me a headache. What a guy.
I just built my gunfighter with a bolt pistol. Easy fix and looks cool
Yeah! Thought about it later too! (Unfortunately I’ve started building from gunfighter sooo… 🥲)
this is the same case for the death korps of kreig kit with the special weapons guys too.
Thanks for the heads up.
No problem :) with good planning the whole kill team is still great and can have all the options!
I wish I knew. I had to use the requiem pistol on the gunslinger
Typical GW. They have pulled the same scam all the way back to the Vet Guard figures in Octarius. That set used the same unique arm on at least 3 different operatives. IMO is a deliberate choice by GW to try and force you to buy a second box. 😠
joke's on them. i just got a bunch of 3d printed kriegers for every one of the gunners, then used the vet guard box to build the sergeant, confident w/boltgun, and every specialist. bonus points i also got the four ancillary troopers.
especially since the ork box came with more than everything you'd need for their team, like heck off.
Yeah, I assembled vet guard and noticed this. What I did was just kitbashed it. I had a great time doing it!
Talk with your wallet.
For the Gun slinger i just cut down a lasgun arm and made a las Smg. Plus i magnetized all the unique models arms
Is there a plasma pistol option?
only hot-shot laspistol or relic bolt pistol (which is 4attacks, hitting on 3+, damage 3/5, range 8” and lethal 5+)
GW classics
😅 well at least you *can* assemble all of them, you just need careful planing. So it’s better than some 🌝
I fell into this pitfall literally instantly! Arrggg!! It all worked out though in the end. I took the pointing finger arm, chopped off the hand and replaced it with the bolt pistol. Put that onto the pistolier and voila! Dual wielding pistols. Don't care about WYSIWYG, Cause he can't hold the bolt pistol anyways lol.
Yeah, that was also something I considered :D bolt pistol can be for „focused” profile and laspistol for salvo 😁
Thanks for the heads up!
Happy to help, enjoy your assembly! :D it’s a great kit otherwise!
Thaks for the info. I just wanted to assemble them bht then i saw that video.
I just ran into this. It sucks. I had to jerryrig the relic pistol into the Gunfighter.
I'm magnetizing my whole box
Put the whole thing together before I realized double gunners was legal. Found this, used some glue to melt my guy's arms off and am now hoping an overnight cure will let the plasmagun stick. If not, then hopefully I can either glue it or superglue it enough to hold me over until someone starts selling single bits.
Fingers crossed 🤞🏼
Wait, so what do the instructions tell you to do? Build only a single gunner and an extra trooper?
Wonderful video! Thank you for sharing!
With the Inquisitorial Agents set I got pretty good with Blue Stuff aka Oyumaru so I might be making an additional pistol
Or maybe just holster?
@@almostpainted that’d work too. I mean most likely I’ll find one in my bits box BUT if I didn’t have that blue stuff is very useful for this specific use case
Thanks! I will probably use the trick for the gunner
He really does look better than the default one ;) the default gunner is the most plain model in the team (next to sniper)
Yeah hes really cool! :D
Btw, isn’t bolt pistol better option on the tempestor than laspistol ?
It depends really - tempestor even with blade isn’t really great melee threat BUT higher dmg weapon gives better chance to kill attacker during retaliation and lethal 5+ give higher chance to block a crit, depending if you can kill attacker or want to block. He won’t stop Night Lord, but against say kroot 😅 bolt pistol is equally deadly, but you need to be in charge range to use it, and if opponent has good save (rubric marines with 2+ and ignoring piercing…) melee is your only chance 😬
So it boils down to how you want to use him. I went with bolt pistol because I locked myself from building options (hence the video) and it is very good loadout, but with 3APL he can shoot, charge and fight, so I feel the power weapon’s higher dmg would allow him to be more of a threat with my aggressive playstyle
Absolute hero, thanks for the information!
Needed to share because it’s otherwise great kit and with careful assembly you can get every operative :D
Damn i just finished assembling mine without the gun fighter since the lasgun is already with the captain. 😢 Oh well, ended up with the cap'n with powersword, gunner, marksman, and the rest are troopers. 😅
Similar with the Cadian Shock Troops. All these mutually exclusive bits and assemblies that can only work one way often seem superfluous to the dynamic poses they have.
Yeah, I miss the universality of the older designs, but must admit the new sculpts are sharp so it’s a tough trade off. My biggest problem here is really one missing pistol that would go a long way. Also the arms - it’s in CAD so it should be super easy to make sure two guys can have either a special weapon or lasgun. Luckily it’s still all easily doable, just something to keep in mind before assembling, hence the video 😁
@@almostpaintedThey even show all the pistols in every image of the team. It sucks that they didn’t account for that.
Pro tip: have a bunch of leftover pieces laying around from other Scions kits
Well I have them… somewhere 🙈
thanks for the video. Luckily I have lots of holsters from other kits
Yeah, with holster and pointing arm on tempestor you can magnetize the sword arm and have all options :D just sad he and gunfighter can’t have both straight arms…
Do any of the sprues have a holstered laspistol accesory?
That’s the neat part! They don’t 😅
Any guard one will fit as the models have nice place on the hip guards, but yeah… pointing finger, no pistol, and magnetized sword arm will be quite popular I assume and perfectly legal if you don’t have any spare holster. Also I heard that SM scouts have spare holsters that should fit, but will check it after work
@@almostpainted Shame, but thanks for the reply!
do you think for painting subassembly would be better
Yeah, at least the guns separately. Arms can be glued, but the gun itself often covers the breastplate and it has the trim etc. The rest is rather accessible, though those are quite small models with sharp detail, so prepare some fine brush 🌝
@@almostpainted thanks for the info!
Goonhammer also suggested maybe keeping the backpack separate. Potentially the heads too, but I don't have the box so can't confirm.
I just gave my pistol guy the bolt pistol, dont think anybody will complain... :þ I was thinking it be nice to have the powerweapon for those 9-10 wound teams
Sad my 2 favorite legal human in team ;[
Dammit I just saw this. I ended up giving my gun fighter the relic pistol
I think it’s also one of the better options
Thanks you rock ! 😊
Great vidéo Thanks !!!
Hope I didn’t rumble to much 😬 had to share my frustrations and some insight I wish I knew sooner
Yeah, SADLY I found this video TOO LATE and have already had to break down my gunslinger and sarg. KO🤦
So you’re saying you were ready to go back and pay the price for perfection..? Are you planning to buy emperors children by any chance? 😏
This video is what I needed thank! Games workshop scams are next level…
I’d argue less of a scam and more of a terrible mishap.
@@LordCrate-du8zm both are bad :D
@@DodgethisCZ Definitely.
Thanks
Your welcome :) with good planning you can make all specialists from single kit so I guess it’s still better than some (cough, imperial henchmen, cough)
it seems did on purpose...as with several other sprues. In this way they kinda push you to buy another box
Yeah, thankfully you CAN build every option you want, just not the way you might want. And you need to plan in advance 😬
Happened to me…
I’m not even sure this is intentional from GW, this might just be them being incredibly stupid and forgetting or not noticing it, lmao. Don’t think that’s any better than them intentionally doing it to force you to buy more boxes though.
I’m afraid it’s the latter 😅 because you CAN build every operative, it’s just easy to lock yourself from the parts. I’ve seen guerilla miniature gaming have their tempestor without the pauldron, because there is only one, so there is higher chance you’ll miss on looks rather than wysywig of the team, and if they wanted to push multi-kit buying I’d guess they’d make the arms less compatible between operatives
no nie pierwszy raz jak cos takiego jest, u Veteranów tez brakuje jednej reki i trzeba ucinac zeby pasowało ;pp pomijam ze chyba czesto tak jest ze jak chcesz miec wszystkich specjalistow z jednego boxa to czegos brakuje, rąk albo ciał wlasnie
Classic GW (tm) 😬
Typical GW
Youre wifes boyfriend must be so proud of your channel's success 😊