Haven't watched the whole video yet, but your joke at the beginning made me guffaw so loud my wife got startled and demanded to know what made me do that. I showed her and she guffawed too. Brilliant man.
Good stuff... Important to keep in mind what it takes to make a capacitor: 2 wires and a space between them. I've seen designs where points on a board would heat up and short (or open) often because of poor consideration of this issue. On a 2+ sided PCB, every other layer should have lines printed primarily 90 degrees away from the previous layer to reduce capacitance between layers. BTW, the hole that the component is soldered to is called a feedthrough. Also, in the microchip world, the connection between a "wire" and a component is called a "contact", and a connection point between layers is called a via. So in the microchip world, you have your layer of components built into the silicon wafer, then the contact layer, followed by a sandwich of metal and via layers that serve as the interconnects between the components until you reach the layer that connects to the outside world.
Hey Joe, can I give you some advice? You are really doing it the hard way, I think. Do the ground polygons in the end. This way you can see, what you are doing. Also, when you are routing a signal, you just need to change layers and you automatically get a via at the mouse cursor. You just place it, then you continue routing on the other layer. I have assigned layer 1 to the F11 key and layer 16 to the F12 key. This way, changing layers is much quicker. I would also recommend getting a second monitor. This way, you can have the schematic on one and the layout on the other monitor. And maybe you want to change the long pads to normal round ones in your library. Long pads just take more board area, that you could use for routing. And also they look like hobby electronics. I am an engineer for 25 years and I never used long pads and I never regret not using them :-)
I love how you emphasize the real creative process, as opposed to the youtube explainer hyperspeed. "It takes 5 days, but I'll do it in 50 minutes". Good to emphasize that. Thanks for the amazing video.
Small critique, you should always have decoupling capacitors as physically close as possible to your VCC pins on the MCU, chips, etc. routing the VCC pin to the positive pin of the capacitor and then (if you are so inclined) to the 5V plane. I was taught to only use ground planes on two-sided PCBs (to prevent shorting).
And about the routing. You should choose a main direction for each side of the pcb, let‘s say, vertical on the top and horizontal on the bottom. And when you have an L shaped route, you go vertical on top, change layers, place a via and go horizontal on bottom. When it is the first signal you route, it looks strange, but the more signals, it makes sense, because you only use area, but don’t block anything. So, when I route a board, I have a lot of mainly horizontal and vertical traces and in a second pass after the signals are routed, I optimize them and make more use of the diagonal directions. That will make the traces shorter and also use less space. You can already do that, when you are running out of space for routing, before you have finishes all signals. I do not use the polygons for automatically connect the power and gnd. I route them and I use wider traces,,, when you let the polygon let do it, you have less control. The copper might pass through a narrow space maybe leaving a 0.25 mm trace, but you rather want at least 0.5mm and you didn‘t notice it. Then it might even burn at this spot. And about the placement... use the schematic for placing groups of components, then look at the air wires and rotate the parts, then move the groups together snd maybe optimize the position of the parts. Maybe it helps you to understand better, what I was talking about, when you have a look at my github repository: github.com/svenpetersen1965/Pi1541-HAT/tree/master/Pi1541/Pi1541-HAT/Rev.%201/Eagle The actual routing of this board took maybe 90 minutes.
Myself being a PCB Designer though highly appreciate your effort to design your PCB layout of your own however, that's some really bad design, little bit of basics would do the work for simple circuits like this at the same time I have seen all your videos and you must be using some high frequency signals which require many aspects of RF design to keep in mind while designing the board. Let me know if you have something in future, will design it free for you.
Hey joey, I have watched your whole series, and this video is my favorite among all, but there is one thing. I am a complete beginner and I don't know where to start. So if you could share the video lectures or books you referred to learn all this cool stuff, that would be very helpful.
Do you see any kind of practical use for the rocket as an end goal, or is this completely for educational, recreational and entertainment purposes? Great videos btw
Hey Joe, I recently watched your “Offline Modeling Update” video and was wondering if you might be able to go more in-depth with how you go about simulating and tuning your PID controller. Thanks!
Hey Joe, awesome video! Audio quality is key in the perception of professionalism on RUclips, please consider upgrading your mic setup, I really want to see more people watching your stuff. Nonetheless, I enjoy the hell out of your uploads!
Jo, i use an old version of eagle. I can automatically create VIA between the top layer and bottom layer by using the middle mouse button (since you have a mac, if you switch between layers while doing a trace, it will automatically make the VIA for you.)
You should use a dc-dc buck converter like lm2596 rather than a linear regulator like 7805. Coz these linear regulators heats up a lot which wastes the battery power.
Giving a like if only for the fact that you corrected yourself for using "less" rather than "fewer". :) But also, good stuff. I, for one, would have preferred to see the original process rather than a simplified "I already know how it's going to come out" version. It's a lot more useful to learn from somebody's real process (including mistakes) rather than a simplified recreation. But that also would have been a PITA to edit, so I appreciate the video either way.
Well made video. But as a person who does PCB desinging nearly daily as a profession my work persona noticed some things that I would have liked to do differently. Like if you plan to have a battery connected to the board, there doesn't seem to be any fuses. And why aren't any SMD-components used? Honestly they are really easy to use and save a lot of PCB-space.
Interesting to see the routing. But that really looks like a task that a computer should do. Are the autorouters that much worse here, given that they can do millions of iterations?
@@fullflowaerospace Error Checking and using the Design Rules Check from the PCB manufacturer (I just use OSH Parks design rules no matter who I send it to)
what? how to wire? thats one of the easiest parts. he explains it in the video. if you need to know how he made the design, watch the schematic design.. if you found out already, sorry, im just trying to be helpful! :D
I saw your videos and made a similar PCB design but using Arduino Nano, couldn't get Teensy :( I'd be happy to provide my files if anyone needs. The first version PCB has some issues so if anyone can help that'd be great too.
0:14 I doubt that this truly came from Alexa, but if it had been from her, then it would have served you right. You might want to stick to landing model rockets. 36:54 I do believe it happened that way because you paused the recording, did the work, and resumed the recording again. *sigh*
Haven't watched the whole video yet, but your joke at the beginning made me guffaw so loud my wife got startled and demanded to know what made me do that. I showed her and she guffawed too. Brilliant man.
Busted American hahaha
ruclips.net/video/upaVO_SMAQM/видео.html👍🏽👍🏽
1 like = 1 BPS file that Alexa gives to Jeff Bezos
Hey You look a lot like Elon Musk
Jeff who?
And half of it to his ex?
How do you ground something that isn’t touching the ground?
BPS.space well rip all your designs. haha
This series has taught me more than I would ever learn in 6 weeks of school in a few hours. Thank you!
yes
I agree
Good stuff...
Important to keep in mind what it takes to make a capacitor: 2 wires and a space between them.
I've seen designs where points on a board would heat up and short (or open) often because of poor consideration of this issue. On a 2+ sided PCB, every other layer should have lines printed primarily 90 degrees away from the previous layer to reduce capacitance between layers.
BTW, the hole that the component is soldered to is called a feedthrough.
Also, in the microchip world, the connection between a "wire" and a component is called a "contact", and a connection point between layers is called a via. So in the microchip world, you have your layer of components built into the silicon wafer, then the contact layer, followed by a sandwich of metal and via layers that serve as the interconnects between the components until you reach the layer that connects to the outside world.
+1, my thoughts exactly while watching the vid. Watch out for coupled lines. You can even simulate/test these things using software like PSPICE.
Hey Joe, can I give you some advice? You are really doing it the hard way, I think. Do the ground polygons in the end. This way you can see, what you are doing. Also, when you are routing a signal, you just need to change layers and you automatically get a via at the mouse cursor. You just place it, then you continue routing on the other layer. I have assigned layer 1 to the F11 key and layer 16 to the F12 key. This way, changing layers is much quicker. I would also recommend getting a second monitor. This way, you can have the schematic on one and the layout on the other monitor. And maybe you want to change the long pads to normal round ones in your library. Long pads just take more board area, that you could use for routing. And also they look like hobby electronics. I am an engineer for 25 years and I never used long pads and I never regret not using them :-)
you've just saved me 5 minutes of writing the same Things ;-)
Althogh he did a great Job explaining most Things Pretty good!
Dööörk I like, that he has so much fun with it.
I love how you emphasize the real creative process, as opposed to the youtube explainer hyperspeed. "It takes 5 days, but I'll do it in 50 minutes". Good to emphasize that. Thanks for the amazing video.
I just watched somebody design a PCB for 50 minutes. And it was worth every second :D
Small critique, you should always have decoupling capacitors as physically close as possible to your VCC pins on the MCU, chips, etc. routing the VCC pin to the positive pin of the capacitor and then (if you are so inclined) to the 5V plane. I was taught to only use ground planes on two-sided PCBs (to prevent shorting).
what is this stuff called. Designing circuit boards?
peace out ? PCB means printed circuit boards
I really like how you set timeline expectations up front. Thanks for the great video!
And about the routing. You should choose a main direction for each side of the pcb, let‘s say, vertical on the top and horizontal on the bottom. And when you have an L shaped route, you go vertical on top, change layers, place a via and go horizontal on bottom. When it is the first signal you route, it looks strange, but the more signals, it makes sense, because you only use area, but don’t block anything. So, when I route a board, I have a lot of mainly horizontal and vertical traces and in a second pass after the signals are routed, I optimize them and make more use of the diagonal directions. That will make the traces shorter and also use less space. You can already do that, when you are running out of space for routing, before you have finishes all signals.
I do not use the polygons for automatically connect the power and gnd. I route them and I use wider traces,,, when you let the polygon let do it, you have less control. The copper might pass through a narrow space maybe leaving a 0.25 mm trace, but you rather want at least 0.5mm and you didn‘t notice it. Then it might even burn at this spot.
And about the placement... use the schematic for placing groups of components, then look at the air wires and rotate the parts, then move the groups together snd maybe optimize the position of the parts. Maybe it helps you to understand better, what I was talking about, when you have a look at my github repository: github.com/svenpetersen1965/Pi1541-HAT/tree/master/Pi1541/Pi1541-HAT/Rev.%201/Eagle
The actual routing of this board took maybe 90 minutes.
Can't wait to see you land your first rocket. Good Luck!
this is gold content !
ruclips.net/video/upaVO_SMAQM/видео.html 👍🏽👍🏽
Joe is easily my favorite RUclipsr, he is #1.
Today I listened your music for a while... it’s great. And fun to see the other ‘you’😂
Greetings from Germany 🤷🏼♂️🍀
That intro is awesome
This was really interesting to watch! Liked how you explained things
The people that disliked are the people that can't comprehend the amount of FACTS this guy can state in each video
I watched this video so many times that I saw Joe's eyes twitch at 19:30
When will we get a BPS Alexa app that spews out space-related roasts?!?
"bigger than the Space Shuttle" and I'm 100% no snark serious when I say that.
Great work.
Myself being a PCB Designer though highly appreciate your effort to design your PCB layout of your own however, that's some really bad design, little bit of basics would do the work for simple circuits like this at the same time I have seen all your videos and you must be using some high frequency signals which require many aspects of RF design to keep in mind while designing the board. Let me know if you have something in future, will design it free for you.
this is an outdated board that is not good. he has a new board called AVA that works way better than this for rocketry.
This channel is super undervalued! 👍
THE LORD HAS POSTED A VIDEO
landing solid model rockets isn't "hard"
it's something we can barely do in KSP
but... but...
I just did that
@@hdliggett wow ahah bravo !!! you're incredible !!!! congratulations !!!! ahah no one cares !!!
perlimpimpim zinzinchien u were the one who started it though..
If it can't be done in KSP, it definintely can't be done IRL. If it can be done in KSP, it probably can't be done IRL.
I think it will be a great idea to make a video of your CAD designs
Haha damn Alexa! 50min episode... We're spoilt!
This guy spends more time in his new intro’s then his actual videos lmao
that Alexa bit... that was a damn good laugh!
Learned a ton! Thank you!
This is a awesome explanation 😉 From Brazil 🏖️🔝
Hey joey, I have watched your whole series, and this video is my favorite among all, but there is one thing. I am a complete beginner and I don't know where to start. So if you could share the video lectures or books you referred to learn all this cool stuff, that would be very helpful.
I just salute you man. You are excellent. The content is just Wow. I am speechless.
Completely agree with not using autorouter 👍🏾
Do you see any kind of practical use for the rocket as an end goal, or is this completely for educational, recreational and entertainment purposes? Great videos btw
Lol this video is just on time, I just finished the whole stuff from the last video today xD
Hey Joe,
I recently watched your “Offline Modeling Update” video and was wondering if you might be able to go more in-depth with how you go about simulating and tuning your PID controller.
Thanks!
Hey Joe, awesome video! Audio quality is key in the perception of professionalism on RUclips, please consider upgrading your mic setup, I really want to see more people watching your stuff. Nonetheless, I enjoy the hell out of your uploads!
Best channel
Jo, i use an old version of eagle. I can automatically create VIA between the top layer and bottom layer by using the middle mouse button (since you have a mac, if you switch between layers while doing a trace, it will automatically make the VIA for you.)
You should use a dc-dc buck converter like lm2596 rather than a linear regulator like 7805. Coz these linear regulators heats up a lot which wastes the battery power.
Should also use 10K for pullup to save power and heat.
Yes, finally!
Giving a like if only for the fact that you corrected yourself for using "less" rather than "fewer". :) But also, good stuff. I, for one, would have preferred to see the original process rather than a simplified "I already know how it's going to come out" version. It's a lot more useful to learn from somebody's real process (including mistakes) rather than a simplified recreation. But that also would have been a PITA to edit, so I appreciate the video either way.
Well made video. But as a person who does PCB desinging nearly daily as a profession my work persona noticed some things that I would have liked to do differently. Like if you plan to have a battery connected to the board, there doesn't seem to be any fuses. And why aren't any SMD-components used? Honestly they are really easy to use and save a lot of PCB-space.
Honest question? Why would you need a fuse if you're using a ~5V battery?
@@mrsoundso4897 the battery is 12v.
And fuses don't protect from overvoltage but from too high current.
Its absolutely amazing video!
nice intro man!
Are blip & blop identical boards with SMD & THT ?
Hi Joe,
Can I use a universal pcb board instead of designing and manufacturing pcb.please reply back.
I move things randomly and hit autorouter until it works :P
Interesting to see the routing. But that really looks like a task that a computer should do. Are the autorouters that much worse here, given that they can do millions of iterations?
better to do it yourself
Yes!!! More rockets!
M O R E R O C K E T S ! ! ! ! 🚀
waiting for your methane engine design
This is really interesting 😍
Sir
From where did u learn all of this,
Could u please suggest some.
U r really an inspiration for me.
sorry for the Q but why don't you just stick a raspberry pi (or similar) with lots of output channels. Sounds excessive.
You have lots of another place under the SDcard board, MPU and microprocesor.
Great video!!
Can u give a prospective list of future videos? So that I can do my project accordingly.
Thanks!
Why not KiCAD?
is there a purpose why he's making everything with 45 deg turns? is it personal preference or does 90 deg do something we want to avoid?
hello great video..
was just wondering how to figure out where to place resistors and capacitors..
Ok perfect
20:59 RIP Enter Key
I'd watch a 504 hour video about designing a pcb
Same dude
Sir where did you get the circuit diagram of this PCB layout, and how did you make it??? Please tell me, if you don't mine🙏🙏🙏🙏
is there asuch a thing as a cylindrical ic board?
Second who is your favourite hockey team
Fritzing is a awesome software that can do the basic PCB connection routing.
I lerned to use eagle in the 3.2 version of cadsoft, now it's in the 8.7 of autodesk
Study point in roket Lancashire
wish i could do all of this
Ground Loops!
Which book did you use to learn all of this? 🤔
idk but its from experience and youtube tutorials!
yes!!!
IN WHAT SOFTWARE YOU DESIGNED IT
can i have the sd card holder symbol and footprint eagle file? I can't find it online...
at 34:38 i changed over to a PBS show 😂
Nice work. ERC and DRC???
?
@@fullflowaerospace Error Checking and using the Design Rules Check from the PCB manufacturer (I just use OSH Parks design rules no matter who I send it to)
Pls send me the pcb and software ,cause I do not have a credit card to pay
is this going to look like a zener flight computer or more of a signal buid?
Blip will look a bit like Zener, Blop will look a bit like Signal - we got options 🚀
can anyone give the micro sd card holder Eagle library here??......
Hi kya tum meri help kr sakte ho
I want the mug.
Hey there 🥵
When will you fly
noice
Where can I go to learn this
what? how to wire? thats one of the easiest parts. he explains it in the video. if you need to know how he made the design, watch the schematic design.. if you found out already, sorry, im just trying to be helpful! :D
You though you was Elon Musk in the thumbnail
19:00
I saw your videos and made a similar PCB design but using Arduino Nano, couldn't get Teensy :( I'd be happy to provide my files if anyone needs. The first version PCB has some issues so if anyone can help that'd be great too.
a nano isnt that good for rocketry but it works
hey could you send me your files please?
Can I get the link to your discord if you have one
The BPS Discord is available through Patreon! I'm just a tad bit biased here, but I recommend joining :)
BPS.space thx
Haha you look like Pete Davidson 😂😂
You look like young Elon Musk with hair
U look like elon musk😋
0:14 I doubt that this truly came from Alexa, but if it had been from her, then it would have served you right. You might want to stick to landing model rockets.
36:54 I do believe it happened that way because you paused the recording, did the work, and resumed the recording again. *sigh*
its a joke
Are you elon musk's brother
Or something?