Also some people seem to forget that, in 2003, Yu Suzuki (the creator of the VF series) became the sixth person to be inducted into the Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences' Hall of Fame. IGN listed him at #9 in their Top 100 Game Creators of All Time list. In 2011, he received the Pioneer Award at the Game Developers Choice Awards. So with that said, VF holds a very important spot in the fighting game genre.
virtua fighters combat is "very simple" lol I'm a tekken fan mostly but even I have to laugh at that. Virtua fighter more complex as complex as tekken is.
i played every virtua fighter and the gameplay is way better than the tekken gameplay. Tekken has nice charakters and storys, you can play it to see the ending! ^^
This was way too biased against Viruta Fighter, coming from a nearly lifelong Tekken fan. I like both, and for different reasons. Virtua Fighter has some very complex and difficult combat, with a ton of depth to every character. VF is still very satisfying to play to this day, whereas I feel that with the rage meter and some of the other gimmicks that Tekken has added, it seems like they're reaching more for ways to dress up their combat.
@@sridrawings4510 so hard means better? Lol. I hate the bs in Tekken 7. Especially during the story mode. Akuma vs Heihachi for instance. You do a combo at Heihachi, and he has this electric bs so none of Akuma's hits damages him. The whole thing is stupid. Even the law parry, rage arts etc. sadly the rage thing-Netherrealm took that idea and implemented in their game.
This is the reason why Watchmojo sucks , they always go with what's more popular rather than whats better and deeper, they must love Ubisoft games and COD.
Wow, lot of hate/dislike for VF here, lol. I guess I can understand, with VF not being very "casual friendly", even at the entry level (not saying Tekken is super casual friendly, but my 7 year old nephew can feel like he's doing something by mashing buttons with some characters). It's not a hard game to learn, it's just different from other fighters. Once you understand the mechanics, it becomes a lot of fun since the mind games go really far up. Once I learned/understood how the game mechanics were meant to be used (after a couple months of playing VF5 vanilla) VF became my favorite fighter. Any other fighting game having cutting edge graphics, good cinematic story mode, xray moves, supers and 20 hit combos can't change my mind on that. I think a lot of people who truly enjoy fighting games, just sat down and really gave an effort to learning VF, they would end up giving the game a nod. I didn't like VF very much till I did just that.
Exactly man. Virtua Fighter has always been better than Tekken. Been playing both since they came out. The gameplay is so much more fluid, intuitive,deeper, and dynamic. It just "feels" better to play. Virtua Fighter is an amazing series, most of these people have never really given the series a chance, which is a shame because they are missing out on a great fighter. Tekken is just more popular because its much more casual friendly, has an over the top storyline, and equally over the top characters. Virtua Fighter will always be superior in my book.
Nice words my dearest. Finally I found smart persons. VF is a masterpiece of the video game world. Even its graphics always were over Tekken or Street Fighter. I've got only 1 complaint - I wanna see a better story line in VF.
irina1296 Exactly, if they gave Virtua Fighter a really great story i think it would be perfect. Thats really all its missing. It has one but you have to read through the game manuals to get it. They need to start giving the characters actual endings in game.
referral madness , Mmm. I'd have to disagree, and agree (to a small extent). VF5:FS was promoted pretty well before it's release. Everyone involved in the FGC in any way, knew it was coming out, but still. A very small amount stuck with the game. Even after they dumbed down the game on this/the latest version and made combos longer to appeal to the masses, having a Sega Cup tournament, flew in players from Japan to compete. And whatever else that event was where they flew Fuudo and Chibita to have an exhibition match. After all that, I don't think promotion can be an excuse. I believe it has a lot to do with lack of understanding of the game, cause you can't just hop in, push buttons and make "cool" things happen. Once you learn the basics of VF, then one can start making some "cool" things happen. Learning any new fighting game can be daunting. For some, when you can't make "cool" stuff happen out the gate, rush or defend yourself with invincible moves, a string of moves or whatever, it can be discouraging to a lot of people. Tekken has a big move list for their characters. So it takes a good level of dedication to learn that game (I'd assume). I can understand peopoe who like/prefer games like MK or SF to not be too attracted to VF. To see people saying that VF is just not a good fighting game seems kinds wild, especially when one doesn't even know the basics of it. It seems more of a popularity contest between VF and other fighters rather than the substance the game provides. If one likes a game over the other, that's fine. Though to say VF is a bad fighting game is a lil much, lol. Sorry, kind of rambled there.
Well for a PvP analysis(how I see this): 1. In VF, low level play shows people moving like they have sandbags in their legs, being forced to learn how to block, while high level play shows almost natural fighting... In Tekken, low level play shows people doing flashy moves all the time, trying to win with that, while high level playing shows people blocking A LOT, taking no risks... 2. In Tekken it's easy to throw people to the other side of the ring with a flashy move, while in VF you can't, either you are hiting, blocking or dodging, the oponent is always close, miss a punch and you'll get hit... Now, just curiosity: Yu Suzuki(VF creator) is know for making every AM2 employee to study martial arts, he himself learned Bajiquan(Akira's HakkyokuKen) from Wu Lianzi.. There's a rumor that Harada(Tekken creator) had made(or helped making) Goh and Brad as a thanks for leting him use the VF3 uneven terran system in Tekken 4... By the way, Tekken 4 was an attempt to bring Tekken to a more realistic fighting game style, even in storyline, showing no monsters and making the Devil Gene shows more like a killing intent... the defense tools were more complex than it is in all other tekkens, but I guess most fans didn't like it...
@@ThrashMetalWolf666 He Created Brad and Goh for letting him use the "Ranking System". I Something felt off about tekken 4. i tried to play it like classic Tekkens and i failed.. when i revisted that game..I noticed its less juggle more punishing for correct reactions instead of fishing
@@grandy5950 There were even 1 more than T3... But if there were too many Anna and Jack players at the time... casuals too, either lost interest or started to learn more. Here in Brazil, lot of old players got let down when T5 was back to a less realistic style, we called it "PeTekken", as you often throw people in the air as a shuttlecock(peteca). But yeah, we learned to love it again over time...
Most of this video was fair, but you were wrong for simply saying that TK has better combat. TK is more technical with the combo system, but VF is much more tactical. In the 3D fighting game world; Virtua Fighter = Chess. Tekken = Checkers.
VF was most impressive for just how bad it was at executing its own idea... Anytime I've ever played VF all I can think is "Wow i cant believe they managed to make fighting boring in a fighting game."
Noob Sandwich Fighting in Virtua Fighter is anything but boring man. Just because its not over the top and flashy like tekken doesnt make it boring. High level virtua fighter matches are a thing of beauty to behold. Its almost like watching real life martial artists fight.
I'm not attracted to tekken because it's flashy. I'm attracted to it because it's fun. I could never have fun playing VF and so as a game I find its a bad product.
VF is more of a fighting simulation. That makes it less appealing due to its difficulty and (other than the leaps from across the screen) more realistic physics. The learning curve is through the roof and to "master" VF is a far greater feat than that of any fighting game. Also, the game teaches you the basics of combat THEN you have to learn your characters fighting style or martial arts. The game is seriously dense which is a turn off when you consider fighting games to be more of a arcade pick up and play. Overall, I agree with the video but Combat should go to VF.
Wow, this video is what happens when somebody that know absolutely nothing about fighting games makes a video about them, saying that Virtua Fighter is "simple" is just proof of how little you guys know about the franchise, VF is just the game everyone who really knows about fighting games respect, the only "negative" thing about VF is that is not as "flashy" as other FG's, but the game itself is amazing, please search for somebody who knows what they are talking about next time.
@@Scientists_dont_lie Not so son, Tekken has more unique characters, more fighting moves, chain grabs, just frames ect....one character on tekken can have move than 100 different attacks or throws. Tekken has one of the most difficult moves to pull off in any fighting game...the Mishima electric uppercut. VF doesn't have a move this deadly or difficult to pull off. It's a reason why tekken is still around and VF is dead.
Combat should've went to Sega. Sega introduced Tooo much new shit in fighters that everybody stole from to update their respective games. .. This Shouldn't have been that much of a blowout with Biased categories. Both games are Great..
So they talk about the improvement of combos and attacks in the Tekken franchise and didn't even mention the now very complex attacking techniques in VF, they just mentioned the first VF but with Tekken went all the way to the current generation. BIASED BULLSHIT.
I like and still play both. I thought VF 1 was cool but VF 2 blew my mind and I have loved the series ever since. I didn't really get into Tekken until TK 3. Been a fan ever since. Love Tekken 5. I think one reason VF isn't more popular because it takes itself more seriously then Tekken. No Dinosaurs or raptors or Michael Bay action type story line. Just straight up fighting. I like them both for what they offer.
VF 4 Evo is probably my favorite fighting game. The ranking system (that Tekken later copied) and the character customization (again, that Tekken later copied) made progression feel awesome. And that Arcade tournament quest made the game feel so complete, w/o the need for ridiculous storied content.
I've tried to get into Tekken but I just can't play it. It's not bad or anything but Soul Calibur and Virtua Fighter are really the only 3D fighters for me.
"Virtua Fighter's combat is fairly simple.." ........ Paused video. Went to watch something else. I don't know why I watch these "lists" expecting actual knowledge of the subject. One of the main reasons VF never gained the kind of popularity Tekken did over here, besides the fact that the characters were rather bland in comparison to most other fighting games, was how /prohibitively difficult/ the game was at any level past intermediate. To most American gamers, VF4 onward seemed nearly impenetrable beyond the most intermediate level of gameplay. Whatever your taste, that is not my issue. Like what you want to like. But, dammit all, be /factual/ for shab's sake. Fairly simple, my eye. *Edited for odd spelling errors*
Indeed, I did mention how VF's cast was "rather bland in comparison". Of that, there is no question. But, with the same brutal honesty, to say VF's combat was "fairly simple" while even positing that Tekken's combat is more complex is /criminally/ negligent.
as soon as they used more buttons as an equivalent of more depth I knew they had know idea what fighting games are really about virtua fighter has much more emphasis on yomi and plays out more like an educated battle between masters rather than a street brawl between rookies. (btw if you don't know what yomi is you probably think tekken is a deeper fighter than vf)
That's too late for that now, they've compared these 2 franchises because they came out 1 year apart from each other (Virtua Fighter in 1993 & Tekken in 1994), DOA didn't come out until 1996, 1 year after Soul Edge/Blade which became the Soul Calibur series in 1995. Edit: That's right, "Taki" is the very first 3-D Big Boob Ninja Girl in 3-D Fighting Games, sorry "Kasumi" and "Ayane."
the reason for all these tekken fanboys is simply that not as many people played virtua fighter games coz ps outsould the saturn like 234234 to 1. but VF2 was better than any fighting game on playstation
@@queencard97 depends wut rank he is. And he could mean easy as in he looked in the command list and he did a few of them and said fuck it I've seen it all, VF is harder and better.
Jazza what tekken 7 got right eventually. Virtual Fighter 2 got right, .back then. haha debate with me as much as you like. BUt virtual fighter, is one bad ass fighter. Its terms of how it plays. And the variety of martial arts and real fighting mechanics. Tekken is fine. But i felt it was too commercial. Sony Psx had its glory days. But Virtual Fighter man... That set the bench mark.
I'm a big fan of both, but I prefer fighting games with powers included. My only problem with MK's is that it's infinite, you can just spam special moves all ya want.
I played and kinda liked Tekken 2 (PS) and Tekken 3 on Dreamcast via Bleemcast BUT i f*#!ing LOVE the high learning curve and depht of the Virtua Fighter games! VF is the much better choice for serious tournament players but Tekken is without any doubt the better choice for casual players. That's the reason why 80% of gamers prefer the Tekken series...
Tekken has better fighting mechanics than Virtua Fighter? You gotta be kidding me... And i would argue about lasting appeal: Tekken is smth similar to popcorn, whereas VF is lasagne. It is not so one-sided as it looks in your video, although I appreciate your opinion.
If you only remember Virtua fighter for what it was and not what it is today then youre missing out. Virtua Fighter 5R is absolutely astonishing. The fighting engine in Virtua Fighter 5R is the most deep, seemless, and fast paced traditional 3D fighting to date. Tekken is a wonderful fighting series, but more buttons does not always mean more depth and the fact that you would so haphazardly make that decision shows your lack of understanding of the genre imo. Eitherway, I love both series greatly, just wish Virtua Fighter got more love lol.
I agree with other posters. Virtua Fighter is the genesis of 3D fighters, but by now has effectively merged with Dead or Alive which was also spawned from it back in Saturn days. Dead or Alive vs Tekken would have been a far closer match up, and one which shows the true progression of Virtua Fighter to date in my opinion.
I actually prefer the combat system in Virtua Fighter, feels more smooth and natural, and the graphics in VF 5 totally beat Tekken, but Tekken does have more aesthetic appeal
Sorry guys, i will always prefer Virtua Fighter. And believe me, I put 100s of hours into tekken 3, but when i played VF3, then VF4, i fell in love with the simple yet complex combat mechanics. Plus all the fighting styles were different, but realistic. I'll always love tekken, but VF has the #1 for me. Oh, plus Akira Yuki crushes all similar characters. Baddest mofo ever.
I mean... That makes sense. If you really think about it VF is more simple than Tekken, personally i see that as one of its strengths (Yu Suzuki wanted VF to be simple and easy to understand) Afterall VF is mostly glorified Rock, Paper, Scissors with reactions.
I wish Tekken had those dynamic wall attacks from Virtua Fighter, and also they should add the Yakuza charakters to the Virtua Fighter roster if they ever make Virtua Fighter 6 it'll be cool to see Kiryu, Ryuji, Majima, Saejama, Akiyama, Tanimura, Shinada, etc.
Tekken's combos are stupid though, it's like one good parry and then pure memorization and then you have like a 70% combo down. Virtua Fighter has a decent counter system, is more grounded and more technical most say. Tag Tourney 2's Tag system is kind of overly convoluted compared to DoA5's too, the swaps take a second or two, you have to make sure you do the right kind of switch too (a full switch or just step-in) and it has to be on appropriate moves kind of. DoA5 is like: press a button, other character instantly swaps in, do the moves you intend to. Tekken and SF have better interface, extra content and energy to draw you in, but I think KoF, DoA and VF are superior when it comes down to gameplay.
True. on VF the combat is hard and seems to be a real life fighting game unlike Tekken. Tekken has pretty easy combos unlike VF. VF is more realistic when It comes to combat
VF is a lot more versatile in its fighting mechanics compared to Tekken. Tekken is all about chain combos whereas as VF is more about frame combo's (or whatever you call it). Thats why Tekken can me considered 'stiff' compared to VF. VF is more technical in it's fighting mechanics and opens up more combo possibilities and allows you to be more creative (like in Street Fighter) whereas in Tekken the combo's are pretty much pre-determined (not that it's a bad thing, it's the way the game is designed).
I actually like DOA's combat more for its faster-pace & aggression, only thing that turns me off about the series is the sex appeal focus. The female characters outshine the males, simply cuz of that.
TechnAmateur I like it too but when you have one button for punching, one for kicking and one for throwing it really shows how much more complex Tekken's mechanics are, at least to my opinion. I just see DOA as a game where it's just having fun and being stupid lol
J. Han I actually love DOA (even though Tekken is my favorite favorite) and I'm totally fine with the sex appeal. why does so many people complain when you can tone down the sexy parts with the costumes and no boobs juggle and I'd have to say DOA is pretty complex and I think it's harder to play than Tekken with its combination of holds, grabs, and attacks. I think it's a really good game in its own right. People just don't give it a try (plus I mostly use girls so of course it's my shit.)
The difference? Tekken - Asia's #1 most popular fighter more times than not. One of the best worldwide. Millions of players, old and new. Great, deep mechanics. Virtua Fighter - Life support provided by Asia,one of the best, great deep mechanics, like 12 players. 13 on a good day.
@June VF is litterally better in almost every single objective way. The only thing Tekken has is more characters. but even then most of them are useless at a high level.
I grew up with Tekken, and I had no doubt that its traits would surpass those of Virtua Fighter. Now I better run before Segata knocks me out cold. Props to those who get that reference. :D
I like Virtua Fighter but the one player game was severely limited next to Tekken due to no character endings which was and is standard in most other fighting games which gives motivation to learn your favourite character and play through the Arcade mode and improve your skills
Virtua fighter is beast of a game. You can’t simply sit down for a quick play. 30 minutes of solid warming up followed by gradually getting into the zone with your chosen character. Once you learn the moves and timings you cannot un-learn then. And once you get to the that level where you are able to beat a few people online. It’s an amazing rewarding experience. VF is actually responsible for making me lose interest in more simple games like DOA and Soul Calibur.
Tekken is better because it managed to find the perfect balance between deepness and accessibility. It's complex and it's fun. This makes it a more complex mix than VF, because it takes into consideration EVERYTHING to create the PERFECT formula: outfits, sounds, stages, music, game modes, endings, robots, animals, demons... AND deepness. This means a shitload of gameplay related elements that are enough to humilliate the competition.
SonicFCLegends this is a casual channel with most viewers being casuals. I'm not even surprised if tekken wins here. I bet I a fight of mk vs sf would also win here. That's just like average casual target audience works. And I bet most people here have iphones too
What a joke... Virtua Fighter 5 is one of the most well-crafted fighting games ever. It's a damn shame that it never held a solid audience in the US. Japan knows what's up, though... VF is a God among fighting games there.
I'm not really trying to argue VF is better, only that this video is being particularly harsh and biased. They even admit they don't play much VF, so how can they really judge these fairly if the amount of play time is so disparate between the two? VF5 is an amazing fighting game and deserves better than to be bashed into obscurity. It's like the only reason they made this video was to hate on VF.
Can you please explain to me how Virtua fighter 5 is a more well crafted game ever? I need to know. Because studies and polls have been shown numerous times that Tekken is a more well versatile game than Virtua Fighter and even street fighter. Please Elaborate on your opinion.
Tekken is one of my all time favourite game series. But c'mon, people in the comments... Virtua Fighter pioneered the genre and then evolved to be one of the best, most balanced and subtly nuanced fighting games out there. I still think Tekken is the superior series overall, and it's the one I enjoy more. But people dismissing VF out of hand are really missing out.
If I want story I would watch an actual Anime, or read a comic book, or play an RPG. Fighting games turn to crap once you try to weave a sensible storyline with all the different characters.
Also some people seem to forget that, in 2003, Yu Suzuki (the creator of the VF series) became the sixth person to be inducted into the Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences' Hall of Fame. IGN listed him at #9 in their Top 100 Game Creators of All Time list. In 2011, he received the Pioneer Award at the Game Developers Choice Awards. So with that said, VF holds a very important spot in the fighting game genre.
virtua fighters combat is "very simple" lol I'm a tekken fan mostly but even I have to laugh at that. Virtua fighter more complex as complex as tekken is.
Yes its right
Virtua fighter gave tekken a start and now nobody can take place of kazuya ,jin and heachi
@The Businessman Lmao It's Virtua not Virtual this ain't no VR game
@@jerrehdaffeh7308 lmao
@@aryanshyam8933 kazuya only bro,
I wonder if half the people in the comments have ever even played Virtua fighter..
TBH i'm shure most of them never heard the name "Virtua Fighter"... :(
I played VF 4 and 5. One for arcades, and one for the Xbox 360.
axelx666 Well VF fans are calling Tekken a button masher, so I'm sure NONE of them have played Tekken...
i played every virtua fighter and the gameplay is way better than the tekken gameplay. Tekken has nice charakters and storys, you can play it to see the ending! ^^
@@Msf1011 there you go
This was way too biased against Viruta Fighter, coming from a nearly lifelong Tekken fan. I like both, and for different reasons. Virtua Fighter has some very complex and difficult combat, with a ton of depth to every character. VF is still very satisfying to play to this day, whereas I feel that with the rage meter and some of the other gimmicks that Tekken has added, it seems like they're reaching more for ways to dress up their combat.
In my opinion virtua fighter ones is easy to learn while tekken is very hard
@@sridrawings4510 so hard means better? Lol. I hate the bs in Tekken 7. Especially during the story mode. Akuma vs Heihachi for instance. You do a combo at Heihachi, and he has this electric bs so none of Akuma's hits damages him. The whole thing is stupid. Even the law parry, rage arts etc. sadly the rage thing-Netherrealm took that idea and implemented in their game.
As for characters. Don't really care for the characters in T7.
VF story was way better for me and more simple when I played Tekken 7 I did not know what the hell was happening
@@sridrawings4510you never played virtua fighter tho
This is the reason why Watchmojo sucks , they always go with what's more popular rather than whats better and deeper, they must love Ubisoft games and COD.
What else would you expect? they are biased as fuck.
ring is bad idea ? Soul series from namco has ring outs, and guard on button , but its great series . I think mojo is dumb's in fightings genre.
Ring out is a bad idea, it cheapens the fight.
@@syminite1 If you are dumb enough to get knocked off that is.
Wow, lot of hate/dislike for VF here, lol. I guess I can understand, with VF not being very "casual friendly", even at the entry level (not saying Tekken is super casual friendly, but my 7 year old nephew can feel like he's doing something by mashing buttons with some characters).
It's not a hard game to learn, it's just different from other fighters. Once you understand the mechanics, it becomes a lot of fun since the mind games go really far up. Once I learned/understood how the game mechanics were meant to be used (after a couple months of playing VF5 vanilla) VF became my favorite fighter. Any other fighting game having cutting edge graphics, good cinematic story mode, xray moves, supers and 20 hit combos can't change my mind on that. I think a lot of people who truly enjoy fighting games, just sat down and really gave an effort to learning VF, they would end up giving the game a nod. I didn't like VF very much till I did just that.
Exactly man. Virtua Fighter has always been better than Tekken. Been playing both since they came out. The gameplay is so much more fluid, intuitive,deeper, and dynamic. It just "feels" better to play. Virtua Fighter is an amazing series, most of these people have never really given the series a chance, which is a shame because they are missing out on a great fighter. Tekken is just more popular because its much more casual friendly, has an over the top storyline, and equally over the top characters. Virtua Fighter will always be superior in my book.
Nice words my dearest. Finally I found smart persons. VF is a masterpiece of the video game world. Even its graphics always were over Tekken or Street Fighter. I've got only 1 complaint - I wanna see a better story line in VF.
irina1296 Exactly, if they gave Virtua Fighter a really great story i think it would be perfect. Thats really all its missing. It has one but you have to read through the game manuals to get it. They need to start giving the characters actual endings in game.
referral madness , Mmm. I'd have to disagree, and agree (to a small extent). VF5:FS was promoted pretty well before it's release. Everyone involved in the FGC in any way, knew it was coming out, but still. A very small amount stuck with the game. Even after they dumbed down the game on this/the latest version and made combos longer to appeal to the masses, having a Sega Cup tournament, flew in players from Japan to compete. And whatever else that event was where they flew Fuudo and Chibita to have an exhibition match. After all that, I don't think promotion can be an excuse.
I believe it has a lot to do with lack of understanding of the game, cause you can't just hop in, push buttons and make "cool" things happen. Once you learn the basics of VF, then one can start making some "cool" things happen. Learning any new fighting game can be daunting. For some, when you can't make "cool" stuff happen out the gate, rush or defend yourself with invincible moves, a string of moves or whatever, it can be discouraging to a lot of people.
Tekken has a big move list for their characters. So it takes a good level of dedication to learn that game (I'd assume). I can understand peopoe who like/prefer games like MK or SF to not be too attracted to VF. To see people saying that VF is just not a good fighting game seems kinds wild, especially when one doesn't even know the basics of it. It seems more of a popularity contest between VF and other fighters rather than the substance the game provides. If one likes a game over the other, that's fine. Though to say VF is a bad fighting game is a lil much, lol.
Sorry, kind of rambled there.
I think VF has a pretty good story. Well I am talking about the anime which I'm not sure if it's canon or not.
Well for a PvP analysis(how I see this):
1. In VF, low level play shows people moving like they have sandbags in their legs, being forced to learn how to block, while high level play shows almost natural fighting...
In Tekken, low level play shows people doing flashy moves all the time, trying to win with that, while high level playing shows people blocking A LOT, taking no risks...
2. In Tekken it's easy to throw people to the other side of the ring with a flashy move, while in VF you can't, either you are hiting, blocking or dodging, the oponent is always close, miss a punch and you'll get hit...
Now, just curiosity: Yu Suzuki(VF creator) is know for making every AM2 employee to study martial arts, he himself learned Bajiquan(Akira's HakkyokuKen) from Wu Lianzi..
There's a rumor that Harada(Tekken creator) had made(or helped making) Goh and Brad as a thanks for leting him use the VF3 uneven terran system in Tekken 4...
By the way, Tekken 4 was an attempt to bring Tekken to a more realistic fighting game style, even in storyline, showing no monsters and making the Devil Gene shows more like a killing intent... the defense tools were more complex than it is in all other tekkens, but I guess most fans didn't like it...
Which could explain the similar level layout in Tekken 4 and Virtua Fighter 3.
@@ThrashMetalWolf666 He Created Brad and Goh for letting him use the "Ranking System". I Something felt off about tekken 4. i tried to play it like classic Tekkens and i failed.. when i revisted that game..I noticed its less juggle more punishing for correct reactions instead of fishing
SDS Overfiend that’s why i loved tekken 4 lol
I guess the reason people hate t4 is that short roster!
@@grandy5950 There were even 1 more than T3... But if there were too many Anna and Jack players at the time... casuals too, either lost interest or started to learn more. Here in Brazil, lot of old players got let down when T5 was back to a less realistic style, we called it "PeTekken", as you often throw people in the air as a shuttlecock(peteca). But yeah, we learned to love it again over time...
Most of this video was fair, but you were wrong for simply saying that TK has better combat. TK is more technical with the combo system, but VF is much more tactical. In the 3D fighting game world; Virtua Fighter = Chess. Tekken = Checkers.
Exactly man. Virtua Fighter is amazing gameplay wise. Tekken doesnt touch it.
VF was most impressive for just how bad it was at executing its own idea... Anytime I've ever played VF all I can think is "Wow i cant believe they managed to make fighting boring in a fighting game."
Noob Sandwich Fighting in Virtua Fighter is anything but boring man. Just because its not over the top and flashy like tekken doesnt make it boring. High level virtua fighter matches are a thing of beauty to behold. Its almost like watching real life martial artists fight.
I'm not attracted to tekken because it's flashy. I'm attracted to it because it's fun. I could never have fun playing VF and so as a game I find its a bad product.
To each their own. But Virtua Fighter has never been boring to me and I find it much more fun than Tekken. Its not even close for me
So Tekken destroys Virtua Fighter? Sounds Accurate.
I Love both but Tekken is my favorite
we face together :))))
oh hell yeah
oh hell yeah
They should put someone who actually knows how to play fighting games to compare the 2.
Virtua fighter is boring
VF is more of a fighting simulation. That makes it less appealing due to its difficulty and (other than the leaps from across the screen) more realistic physics. The learning curve is through the roof and to "master" VF is a far greater feat than that of any fighting game. Also, the game teaches you the basics of combat THEN you have to learn your characters fighting style or martial arts. The game is seriously dense which is a turn off when you consider fighting games to be more of a arcade pick up and play. Overall, I agree with the video but Combat should go to VF.
This isn't even a debate
The Mishima blood runs supreme
yup
Tekken always wins.
+Steam Machine doryaa means Kazuya not the mishimas
seiichi ishii created both virtua fighter and tekken
Go to hell, you button-mashing weeß.
Wow, this video is what happens when somebody that know absolutely nothing about fighting games makes a video about them, saying that Virtua Fighter is "simple" is just proof of how little you guys know about the franchise, VF is just the game everyone who really knows about fighting games respect, the only "negative" thing about VF is that is not as "flashy" as other FG's, but the game itself is amazing, please search for somebody who knows what they are talking about next time.
Erik Agreed.
It's is "simple" it doesn't have nearly the depth that Tekken has.
@@syminite1 disagree.. VF is more Complex. Tekken is just about juggling a dropped fighter.
@@Scientists_dont_lie Not so son, Tekken has more unique characters, more fighting moves, chain grabs, just frames ect....one character on tekken can have move than 100 different attacks or throws.
Tekken has one of the most difficult moves to pull off in any fighting game...the Mishima electric uppercut.
VF doesn't have a move this deadly or difficult to pull off.
It's a reason why tekken is still around and VF is dead.
Was thinking the same thing when I watched
Combat should've went to Sega. Sega introduced Tooo much new shit in fighters that everybody stole from to update their respective games. .. This Shouldn't have been that much of a blowout with Biased categories. Both games are Great..
Seriously tekken. The king of beat em up for more than a decade. Tekken 3 is a masterpiece that left competition way behind.
King of "3D Fighting Games"
Beat Em' Up are an entire different genre of videogame...like River City Ransom or TMNT:Turtles in Time
T3 is a masterpiece ! Agreee 100% !
johno doh Tekken 3.... the greatest masterpiece created for the fighting game genre
Mister Emperor Lol omg no.
Michael Perez My opinion bitch
Back in 1995,VF2 killed Tekken 2
VF2 even beat Tekken 3.
The amount of hate for virtua fighter is insane.
It's kinda sad tbh
So they talk about the improvement of combos and attacks in the Tekken franchise and didn't even mention the now very complex attacking techniques in VF, they just mentioned the first VF but with Tekken went all the way to the current generation. BIASED BULLSHIT.
It's abvious they are scrubs who know nothing about fighting games
Yes, what you said is correct, they don't know shit. It's just a video for fanservice. XD
virtual fighter
what there a vr fighting game?
finally i cant wait to play
I wonder if the person who wrote this text has ever played Virtua Fighter
Right?
It's clear that he doesn't know what he is talking about.
I own both series, and I've got to say VF is the one I go back to. It just plays better.
I like and still play both. I thought VF 1 was cool but VF 2 blew my mind and I have loved the series ever since. I didn't really get into Tekken until TK 3. Been a fan ever since. Love Tekken 5.
I think one reason VF isn't more popular because it takes itself more seriously then Tekken. No Dinosaurs or raptors or Michael Bay action type story line. Just straight up fighting. I like them both for what they offer.
VF2 was best VF, I felt. VF3 had a lot more outlandish and ridiculous moves that betrayed the more realistic feel of the earlier games.
It is an honor to be on one of your videos :)!! #Tekken
I love you Alisa 💜
VF 4 Evo is probably my favorite fighting game. The ranking system (that Tekken later copied) and the character customization (again, that Tekken later copied) made progression feel awesome. And that Arcade tournament quest made the game feel so complete, w/o the need for ridiculous storied content.
I've tried to get into Tekken but I just can't play it. It's not bad or anything but Soul Calibur and Virtua Fighter are really the only 3D fighters for me.
Never liked Tekken, too cheap and casual for me, all the real hardcore went with Virtua Fighter from what I always saw.
Teen Titans vs Young Justice
I'd say Young Justice myself but that is just my opinion. lol
Young Justice is far above Teen Titans, the only sad part is CN cancelled it too early due to toy sales.
Young Justice all the way. More characters and better animation too. I love the old Teen Titans though, but really waiting for the new YJ season.
"Virtua Fighter's combat is fairly simple.."
........
Paused video. Went to watch something else. I don't know why I watch these "lists" expecting actual knowledge of the subject.
One of the main reasons VF never gained the kind of popularity Tekken did over here, besides the fact that the characters were rather bland in comparison to most other fighting games, was how /prohibitively difficult/ the game was at any level past intermediate. To most American gamers, VF4 onward seemed nearly impenetrable beyond the most intermediate level of gameplay.
Whatever your taste, that is not my issue. Like what you want to like. But, dammit all, be /factual/ for shab's sake.
Fairly simple, my eye.
*Edited for odd spelling errors*
To be brutally honest, Tekken's cast of characters are more fleshed out and have much more personality compared to Virtua Fighter.
Indeed, I did mention how VF's cast was "rather bland in comparison". Of that, there is no question.
But, with the same brutal honesty, to say VF's combat was "fairly simple" while even positing that Tekken's combat is more complex is /criminally/ negligent.
ShinJudo Not to mention, Tekken is also more well known compared to Virtua Fighter.
Fuck watchmojo for this.
well their buttons are simple one punch, one kick and one guard thats it a 3 button fighter
the Virtua Fighter Anime is better than every tekken movie ever at the very least
Ok? That's a pretty low bar to set that at. Lol
pai chan annoying as fuck
Like my childhood was Tekken, no fighting game will ever replace it
as soon as they used more buttons as an equivalent of more depth I knew they had know idea what fighting games are really about virtua fighter has much more emphasis on yomi and plays out more like an educated battle between masters rather than a street brawl between rookies. (btw if you don't know what yomi is you probably think tekken is a deeper fighter than vf)
No, it just means your a weeb.
@@Nutt_lemmings salt
Should be virtua fighter vs dead or alive , two games that are more similar
DOA is way more aggressive tho
That's too late for that now, they've compared these 2 franchises because they came out 1 year apart from each other (Virtua Fighter in 1993 & Tekken in 1994), DOA didn't come out until 1996, 1 year after Soul Edge/Blade which became the Soul Calibur series in 1995.
Edit: That's right, "Taki" is the very first 3-D Big Boob Ninja Girl in 3-D Fighting Games, sorry "Kasumi" and "Ayane."
Right
@NoLaKazi they're very similar
the reason for all these tekken fanboys is simply that not as many people played virtua fighter games coz ps outsould the saturn like 234234 to 1. but VF2 was better than any fighting game on playstation
D core
Be honest though, VF2 was better than any ps FG. It’s not even close.
I love the cast of tekken but the gameplay of VF is better.
Biased casuals that know nothing about Virtua Fighter and will blindly choose Tekken.
John Kinney an old head would choose tekken.
Tekken is superior to Virtual fighter in every way, virtual fighter design got left in the 90s, while Tekken kept growing.
Vittua fighter is the worst and shittiest
@Berserker you not playin tekken right then.
@@queencard97 depends wut rank he is. And he could mean easy as in he looked in the command list and he did a few of them and said fuck it I've seen it all, VF is harder and better.
For me its Virtual FIghter. Just the music alone in Virtual Fighter 2 beats anything put out on any Tekken Game.
tekken 7 ost is pretty good
Jazza what tekken 7 got right eventually. Virtual Fighter 2 got right, .back then.
haha debate with me as much as you like. BUt virtual fighter, is one bad ass fighter. Its terms of how it plays. And the variety of martial arts and real fighting mechanics. Tekken is fine. But i felt it was too commercial. Sony Psx had its glory days.
But Virtual Fighter man... That set the bench mark.
Hold on now. The Tekken 2 soundtrack has some pretty epic music too.
Tekken tag Tournament has a snoop dogg level with an snoop dogg song i mean
its the weed king so tekken has better music
***** Thanks bro. Ill have a listen to that. Tekken is an awesome series that only gets better :)
Tekken the best fighting game ever made 😁
asura's wrath is laughing at this comment
how is asura bad? its superior in every way
oh i see. well it seemed like a fighter, you know with the segments through the game when you fill the gauge before you start the burst.
Clearly you've never played Mortal Kombat
IKR? I still play Tag Tournament 2.
Tekken has Lili so Tekken wins.
Agreed mate
Yup. Lili best waifu4laifu
Lili ? Fock dat ! You got a Mexican luchador that speaks only in Jaguar roars ! What's cooler than that :D ?
lmao true
Eww, Lili is cancer.
Tekken won the "Combat"? Are You Kidding Me?
DevilChry Gaming of course everytime
@Jeremy Dixon
VF combat is better, and it's not even close.
Tekken wins at everything
"Without Virtua Fighter there be no tekken" nuff said
sgarcia103 same here, tekken wouldn't be where it is today if it was not for virtua fighter
that doesn't necessarily mean Virtua Fighter is better, just that if Virtua Fighter hadn't existed, Tekken most likely wouldn't have existed either
sgarcia103 complete bollocks
Virtual Fighter has a complete fighting style to Tekken.
The Planet's Guardian Bollocks!!!
Really?!?! Tekken random button smash gameplay is better than the VF?
True actually I love Tekken. I thank vf for making Tekken.
Agreed! Tekken is trash.
Tekken over Mortal Kombat any day
Umk3 >>>>> any tekken
I'm a big fan of both, but I prefer fighting games with powers included.
My only problem with MK's is that it's infinite, you can just spam special moves all ya want.
I played and kinda liked Tekken 2 (PS) and Tekken 3 on Dreamcast via Bleemcast BUT i f*#!ing LOVE the high learning curve and depht of the Virtua Fighter games!
VF is the much better choice for serious tournament players but Tekken is without any doubt the better choice for casual players. That's the reason why 80% of gamers prefer the Tekken series...
Tekken has better fighting mechanics than Virtua Fighter? You gotta be kidding me...
And i would argue about lasting appeal: Tekken is smth similar to popcorn, whereas VF is lasagne.
It is not so one-sided as it looks in your video, although I appreciate your opinion.
If you only remember Virtua fighter for what it was and not what it is today then youre missing out. Virtua Fighter 5R is absolutely astonishing.
The fighting engine in Virtua Fighter 5R is the most deep, seemless, and fast paced traditional 3D fighting to date. Tekken is a wonderful fighting series, but more buttons does not always mean more depth and the fact that you would so haphazardly make that decision shows your lack of understanding of the genre imo.
Eitherway, I love both series greatly, just wish Virtua Fighter got more love lol.
The way I see it is that both handle depth in entirely different ways. The two can never really be compared.
I agree with other posters. Virtua Fighter is the genesis of 3D fighters, but by now has effectively merged with Dead or Alive which was also spawned from it back in Saturn days. Dead or Alive vs Tekken would have been a far closer match up, and one which shows the true progression of Virtua Fighter to date in my opinion.
Combat is EASILY Virtua Fighter.
it make sense if it was Dead or Alive vs Tekken.
Dead or Alive is 99% all fan service trash whose demographics are perverted weabs.
Boob simulator with mashing one button and win vs. tekken? really?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
You're funny.
It makes even more sense to have VF vs DOA as both games have similar gameplay
+Pedro Erik Vasquez Dont talk shit
I like Tekken wayyyyyy more than Virtua Fighter.
I actually prefer the combat system in Virtua Fighter, feels more smooth and natural, and the graphics in VF 5 totally beat Tekken, but Tekken does have more aesthetic appeal
Lmao to be honest No VF moves slow and feels so unresponsive its just “ok” in my opinion Tekken is mire action packed and faster movement
@@lpgaming838 with lame ass low parry's and rage arts. Easy blocking highs med and lows.
@@sO_RoNerY yup vf is so complex than tekken tho
@@sO_RoNerY and also button mashing gets you nowhere on virtua fighter so vf all the way
I Agree, Tekken is the Better Game.
Mortal Kombat is better then Both
Franklin Clinton nope
BeastGaming TV yup
Nice pp
Good thing i have atleast Tekken 7 deluxe edition
At first, I thought Tekken was some sort of sequel or spin off of Virtua Fighter
tekken is my favorite fighting game of all time
HISTORY IS MADE!!! You guys have finally made a realistic Vs. video. Always having "tie-breakers" for things.
Sorry guys, i will always prefer Virtua Fighter. And believe me, I put 100s of hours into tekken 3, but when i played VF3, then VF4, i fell in love with the simple yet complex combat mechanics. Plus all the fighting styles were different, but realistic. I'll always love tekken, but VF has the #1 for me. Oh, plus Akira Yuki crushes all similar characters. Baddest mofo ever.
"Tekken has a button for each limb, so its combat is more advanced than Virtua Fighter's." Holy shit, that's rage-inducing.
I mean... That makes sense.
If you really think about it VF is more simple than Tekken, personally i see that as one of its strengths (Yu Suzuki wanted VF to be simple and easy to understand)
Afterall VF is mostly glorified Rock, Paper, Scissors with reactions.
Thesch 28 VF is nowhere near as simple as tekken, even the director of tekken admits that. Cmon man
I wish Tekken had those dynamic wall attacks from Virtua Fighter, and also they should add the Yakuza charakters to the Virtua Fighter roster if they ever make Virtua Fighter 6 it'll be cool to see Kiryu, Ryuji, Majima, Saejama, Akiyama, Tanimura, Shinada, etc.
Tekken's combos are stupid though, it's like one good parry and then pure memorization and then you have like a 70% combo down. Virtua Fighter has a decent counter system, is more grounded and more technical most say. Tag Tourney 2's Tag system is kind of overly convoluted compared to DoA5's too, the swaps take a second or two, you have to make sure you do the right kind of switch too (a full switch or just step-in) and it has to be on appropriate moves kind of. DoA5 is like: press a button, other character instantly swaps in, do the moves you intend to.
Tekken and SF have better interface, extra content and energy to draw you in, but I think KoF, DoA and VF are superior when it comes down to gameplay.
True. on VF the combat is hard and seems to be a real life fighting game unlike Tekken. Tekken has pretty easy combos unlike VF. VF is more realistic when It comes to combat
No VF there would be no tekken or DOA
Who cares as long as you don’t charge me up the ass prices for DLC I’m fine
i would love for virtua fighter to come out with another game tbh
I guess you must be happy with the newest release, then
Tekken will always be better!
Why, thank you....
🤓😂🌌
yea, and ur profile pic alone is more then enough to prove it)
He is right, VF is better
No, he said tekken was better.
Tekken is better
Virtua Fighter is better gameplay and balance wise. Tekken is just more popular.
VF is a lot more versatile in its fighting mechanics compared to Tekken. Tekken is all about chain combos whereas as VF is more about frame combo's (or whatever you call it). Thats why Tekken can me considered 'stiff' compared to VF. VF is more technical in it's fighting mechanics and opens up more combo possibilities and allows you to be more creative (like in Street Fighter) whereas in Tekken the combo's are pretty much pre-determined (not that it's a bad thing, it's the way the game is designed).
The Mishimas and Kazamas Family Reunion will be one big fight
Fun fact: the creator of Dead or Alive hates the Tekken franchise. But he's just butthurt cuz his franchise is successful only because of sex appeal
I actually like DOA's combat more for its faster-pace & aggression, only thing that turns me off about the series is the sex appeal focus. The female characters outshine the males, simply cuz of that.
TechnAmateur I like it too but when you have one button for punching, one for kicking and one for throwing it really shows how much more complex Tekken's mechanics are, at least to my opinion. I just see DOA as a game where it's just having fun and being stupid lol
J. Han I actually love DOA (even though Tekken is my favorite favorite) and I'm totally fine with the sex appeal. why does so many people complain when you can tone down the sexy parts with the costumes and no boobs juggle and I'd have to say DOA is pretty complex and I think it's harder to play than Tekken with its combination of holds, grabs, and attacks. I think it's a really good game in its own right. People just don't give it a try (plus I mostly use girls so of course it's my shit.)
Intertesting fact but I don't like DOA and Tekken. I'm more into Virtua Fighter, Mortal Kombat, KIller Instinct & SoulCalibur
Nah, he's just right. Tekken is a piece of trash.
The difference? Tekken - Asia's #1 most popular fighter more times than not. One of the best worldwide. Millions of players, old and new. Great, deep mechanics.
Virtua Fighter - Life support provided by Asia,one of the best, great deep mechanics, like 12 players. 13 on a good day.
I know the "Tekken" franchise was going to win by a God wind fist. lol
am I the only person who likes virtua fighter but doesn't like tekken?
Don't worry buddy, You're not alone.
I play VF since 1994 and never liked Tekken.
Namco ripped so much off.
You and this other dude, that's about it.
syminite1 well said mah friend, too bad vf fanatics can’t understand that tekken is a lot more interesting and fun game.
I like both
@June
VF is litterally better in almost every single objective way. The only thing Tekken has is more characters. but even then most of them are useless at a high level.
Wow I actually have to agree... And I like it when fighting games DO have memorable chars/stories
I always find these vs matches kinda predicable. Imagine the uproar if tekken lost!?
Maybe there should be a Tekken x Virtua Fighter game anyone else thinks so
I don't even have to watch this to know Tekken won
If you think Virtua Fighter is simple, I wonder if you've ever played it.. You got this entire video all wrong.
Thank you Virtua Fighter for making Tekken exist.
How about Tekken VS Mortal Kombat? Or Tekken VS Street Fighter? Since Tekken 8 and Mortal Kombat 1 are now competing between the two as of now.
King of Fighters vs Street Fighter
Samurai_Aldo They alread had Street Fighter vs Mortal Kombat .
We still have Dead or Alive
Alastor Lestat DOA can go against Killer Instinct
KI has nobody then
kof all the way because the future is now.
VF has Kage Maru and Sarah Bryant, thus rendering all arguments invalid. XD
Even good guys blow it!
I grew up with Tekken, and I had no doubt that its traits would surpass those of Virtua Fighter. Now I better run before Segata knocks me out cold. Props to those who get that reference. :D
Well done, sir. Well done. May the eternal hero rest in peace...and please not destroy me in an alley. I owned a Saturn. @_@
ShinJudo sanshiro is coming
/This/
Fun fact: Ed Boon is a huge fan of Tekken.
I like how you have the tekken 5 design of Jin Kazama on the thumbnail
Virtua Fighter V: FS is the best 3d Fighting game ever, coming from a long running fighting games player.
I like Virtua Fighter but the one player game was severely limited next to Tekken due to no character endings which was and is standard in most other fighting games which gives motivation to learn your favourite character and play through the Arcade mode and improve your skills
SO kinda....
Point for virtua fighter: They were first
Points for tekken: everything else
I don't care, for me Virtua Fighter is my first, and one of the most fav fighting game
Virtua fighter is beast of a game. You can’t simply sit down for a quick play. 30 minutes of solid warming up followed by gradually getting into the zone with your chosen character. Once you learn the moves and timings you cannot un-learn then.
And once you get to the that level where you are able to beat a few people online. It’s an amazing rewarding experience. VF is actually responsible for making me lose interest in more simple games like DOA and Soul Calibur.
Did anyone spot that at 8:35 where the tag says Tekken Tag Tournament 2 😂😂😂😭😹😹😂
Tekken is better because it managed to find the perfect balance between deepness and accessibility. It's complex and it's fun. This makes it a more complex mix than VF, because it takes into consideration EVERYTHING to create the PERFECT formula: outfits, sounds, stages, music, game modes, endings, robots, animals, demons... AND deepness. This means a shitload of gameplay related elements that are enough to humilliate the competition.
I'm a simple guy, whenever I see TEKKEN, I like.
Tekken was my childhood .. Can't wait for the final chapter
Tekken is of kids, VF is for professionals
'Even SF vs Tekken is good time'
nice one. wait, you didn't actually mean it, did you?
I am beginning to watch the video, I swear if Virtua Fighter wins this. I am gonna go all Devil Gene on their asses.
SonicFCLegends it won
Tekken won.
SonicFCLegends gene hahahaha
SonicFCLegends this is a casual channel with most viewers being casuals. I'm not even surprised if tekken wins here. I bet I a fight of mk vs sf would also win here. That's just like average casual target audience works. And I bet most people here have iphones too
SonicFCLegends hahaha well said!
I prefer DOA and they have some virtual fighters in Last Round.
what about Mortal Kombat
When I was younger, I always thought the game was called VIRTUAL Fighter.... I feel like my whole childhood has been a lie...
From Vitua Fighter 2 onwards the series is by a distance the best polygon/3D fighting games ever made!The 1st & still the best
What a joke... Virtua Fighter 5 is one of the most well-crafted fighting games ever. It's a damn shame that it never held a solid audience in the US. Japan knows what's up, though... VF is a God among fighting games there.
no
Do you know how big the audience for Tekken is in Korea and Japan?
I'm not really trying to argue VF is better, only that this video is being particularly harsh and biased. They even admit they don't play much VF, so how can they really judge these fairly if the amount of play time is so disparate between the two? VF5 is an amazing fighting game and deserves better than to be bashed into obscurity. It's like the only reason they made this video was to hate on VF.
+Richard Craig true.
Can you please explain to me how Virtua fighter 5 is a more well crafted game ever? I need to know. Because studies and polls have been shown numerous times that Tekken is a more well versatile game than Virtua Fighter and even street fighter. Please Elaborate on your opinion.
When Virtua Fighter had a TV series or film, it became popular.
Everytime Tekken makes a TV series or film, it sucks.
This video is about 10 years too late.
Tekken is one of my all time favourite game series. But c'mon, people in the comments... Virtua Fighter pioneered the genre and then evolved to be one of the best, most balanced and subtly nuanced fighting games out there.
I still think Tekken is the superior series overall, and it's the one I enjoy more. But people dismissing VF out of hand are really missing out.
I now want Virtua Fighter 6. Plus it should have been Virtua Fighter vs DOA that would have been more fair.
If I want story I would watch an actual Anime, or read a comic book, or play an RPG. Fighting games turn to crap once you try to weave a sensible storyline with all the different characters.