What are Realistic Profit Targets for a Successful Trader? 🤑
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How much money can I make trading? What's a good percentage target to aim for as a trader? What are some realistic profit targets for a successful trader? What is considered a good ROI percentage? What's the average percentage a trader makes monthly? Should you stick to the 1% or 2% risk rule? I understand that are extremes out there; there are people who have turned very small pots of money into much bigger sums and there are also people with big capital who aren't really making much from it. Trading is using capital as a tool; I'm not a biggest fan of looking at things in percentage returns. If you're actively trading you want to be compensated well for what you're doing. OK.
Let's assume you have a GBP100,000 account. We are risking 2% (GBP2,000) and if successful we're going to make GBP6,000 (3:1, Risk:Reward)
Let's also assume we have a 50% chance of success.
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Trader Nick: "yeah...so like 0.0000002% per month is like great, you should be proud of that."
I trade for a firm and we aim to hit 6% a month risking 0.10- 0.30% of the account per trade.
I got told off for wanting to risk more then 1% on a trade.
Love that! I've tripled my account for 5 months with 42% percent win rate using 3:1 RRR as a minimum for every trade. Thanks for your videos and the brilliant example!
While 100% Returns per trade are unrealistic, 100% return per year a f.e. are Pretty common. There are Traders who started in beginning of the year with 5000$ and ended the year with 15k wich is even more than 100%. Don't let yourself get fooled by percentages guys! I agree that those numbers are not the average or easy but it's not impossible.
If you can grow your trading account safely and steady with 10% per year you can feel already skilled and for most traders it's better to go for the lower numbers. Stay safe ya'll
I trade for a prop firm and I only aim for 2% a month.
10 percent a month is very reasonable if you are a skilled day trader, or even a swing trader. Otherwise, how would they make a living at it? It might be hard for someone say, doing it as a hobby. Or hard for those individuals that are long term investing.
Number of trades, risk%, win rate, Risk/Reward. All come in to play for calculating yearly return.
Go fr less than 1% if u want to make it in this game. Once u master risk mngmnt keep losses minimal u will start to make real money.
This does not seem very realistic, because your calculation only works if every "winner" reaches the original target, but if you apply trailing stops, there might also be winners that are stopped out with a profit long before the target is reached, hence the real reward/risk ratio may differ a lot from the intended ratio. On the other hand: if you don't apply stop loss trailing (which can be perfectly fine, depending on the strategy), I strongly doubt that the combination of a 3:1 reward/risk ratio AND a 50% winning percentage is anywhere close to realistic. You can have a high winning percentage or a high target, but not both. If the winning and losing probability are the same (=50% win rate in your example) 3:1 RRR is just another way of saying that the profit factor is 3.0. Such a system does not exists. It's not difficult to sometimes find real world profit factors >2 within lucky streaks over a period of less than 100 trades, but I'd like to see the strategy that achieves such results on average over several hundred trades. This seems far too optimistic; just my personal opinion. Thanks for the video!
yeah I think this is a myth ... you would only get that swing trading
I also think 3:1 is very hard to reach day trading. You need to be in a trending market with a volatile asset always. These days I am doing a little simulation, and have arrived to the conclusion that 1.2:1 target with 55% accuracy will make around 20% in 100 trades with 2x leverage.
I think 3% a month is realistic
I agree, my first thought when I saw this was that a 3:1 risk/reward consistently winning 50% of the time is not realistic. That said, he lays out the maths, people can just plug in their own numbers based on their trading performance to get their own profit expectation. Nice vid!
@@oswaldokatz2523 for 3% a month you shouldn't be spending time trading. Just put it in a guaranteed deposit plan or similar. My 2 cents.
I'm not going with ROI, I'm looking at my risk tolerance which is somewhere around 5% monthly and up to 8% if I on a winning streak and I always goes with minimum of risk to reward of 1:2-5.
Start with 30k and do 5% a month for 20.25 years while adding $500 per month. Set aside 15% of your profits annually for taxes for a clean billion at the end of the 20.25 years. Seems simple enough 😊
Average +30% on a regular basis each year is achievable for small accounts with proper technique. +100% / year requires an unsustainable level of risk IMHO.
I play with 1:10 risk reward .....1percent SL and 10 percent target on swing trades....what are your thoughts on this ?
Hello my friend thumbs up from India, really like your videos must say some values and ideological foundations about being a professional trader really helps.Your strategies have really cemented my belief and helps in making myself a better psychological trader.
Saw your videos on time frames for trade setup ( i use 1 min to 60 min for intra and daily till monthly for a full scale trend understanding)
The only difference is i use Renko bricks as my chart not candlesticks (because i get much cleaner price action )
do you have any observations when trading with renko bricks could if elaborate on it if you know ?
So my target of 10% per month is not easy but reasonable - nice.
If you're compounding, then your account will triple in size in one year.
Yes it is!!! That's my weekly goal!
I think in the video, the presenter thinks a lot about the question. All returns are different. But the point here is to know the minimum and maximum average values that can be expected in a year, for example. In the example he shares in the video, he mentions a starting capital of 100,000 USD and an annual profit margin of 120%. Well, let me tell everybody that with a yearly return of half, that is, 60%, anybody can reach a million dollars in just 4 years, of course, without touching the balance of the trading account for 4 years and meanwhile having an alternative income to live on. So the community needs a perspective on the potential of trading. Even if somebody starts with 500 USD and has a 60% annual return, they reach a million dollars in 13 years. If that person starts trading at 40, at 53, they are already a millionaire. Let's see, perspective is missing. I hope my comment helps the community. Greetings.
Is average consistent 3 R profit per month realistic?
The 3 R profit can be from any systems with positive expectancy
for example 50 % WR with 1:2 RR 6 trades per mo
or 66.66 percent WR 9 trades per mo .
Result net profit 3 R per mo
I'll be honest. There are plenty of trading related channels on RUclips and almost all of them are complete garbage. This is the only channel I've found so far which has actual good content. Subbed.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. Very much appreciated
Im at 400% ~ this year, shooting for 1000% by july
Guys making 1/2% a day isn't an unrealistic thing for an experienced trader. You just have to manage risk and have real capital to manage. If you have 1M AUM a good trader can 100% make 1/2m a year off that lol
also depends what markets you are trading
Hi Mark what about scalping? A lot of traders claim to make 3/5% a day
Yup.... that's my goal.
To regularly find trades giving R:R of greater than even 1.5 is hard. To expect a 100% return is fantasy for most traders. 20 - 30% is considered respectable. 2% stake means a run of losses will significantly damage your account and your psychology.
Yes, but I take about 20 trades per week on several forex pairs. Would the same formula apply on more trades? Seems like this would be more profitable.
Love most of Marks videos, but this one is a bit far out. Show me a trader’s results that makes 100% or even 50% per year. Most of the top funds make 20-30% per year max. 100% per year is possible with leverage and much higher risk.
My strategy 1:2 RR and 40% winrate
This is pretty rubbish lol... You're never going to hit a 3:1 RR ratio at a 50% rate lol.. Fallacy here is that 50% win rate sounds reasonable but that's only IF the RR is somewhere much closer 1:1.... This type of stuff destroys the credibility of your channel.. You'd be a multi multi millionaire from trading in very short order of you could get the results you're stating..
Det tar för lång tid innan han kommer till skott!
Hi Mark, thanks for the content. I have a question for you - what do you think is the most money a day trader can trade before having problems with liquidity / fills?
I’m just curious to know how far you think day trading capacity can go in those terms.
(Assuming they have a multi million/billion dollar account!)
Depends what you're trading. If forex pairs its mostly unlimited. With blue chip stocks you can buy millions without too much impact. With smaller caps and mid-caps your dealing will have an impact on the shorter-term movements. You just have to look at the average traded per day to see how liquid a stock is and how much of an impact your trading will likely have (in the shorter-term...).
@@ukspreadbetting thanks so much! I trade stocks. Mid - to large cap. I was told that $1000 risk is as high as you could go for day trading... So you’d say it would be more than that?
Of course it can be more than that - it is all relative!! $1000 is very little if you have a large account. You can definitely trade a whole lot more than that before hoping to move a market!
@@ukspreadbetting Thanks so much, that's fantastic news :)
Can't understand ...
Is it so unrealistic to make at least 1-2-3% a day? That basically means that your return is way more than 10% a month/year?
its not unreasonable to make 1% a day no, personally my goal is 0.5% a day. remember to calculate the compounding every week so the following weeks % goals take into account your new balance. if you do the math after 1 year of trading your account grows something crazy like 1000% due to the compounding
Thank you so much. By far the best explanation. It was very realistic and motivating. Just listened to another RUclips video before this and I actually felt depressed and confused. Haha. I subscribed by the way 😁 😁 👍👍👍
Thank you so much for this valuable content
How can you make a realistic return of 100% when daytrading ? The market doesn’t move more than 25 pips a day
Leverage
@@lesetsamatlala2682 can you give me an example trading options and a index
Depends on the market. GbpAud for example has an average of over 200 pips for the last 15 days
*5:37** ; **6:13*
If a beginner breaks even in their first year that's a major achievement in my book
Good straight talk on profits
i think that 5 to 8 percent a month is really great and reasonable
How do we get the initial 10% that you mentioned without trading?
Hi Mark what's the best website to check for when earnings are going to come out for ftse100 companies
Bloomberg is one good source I use - www.bloomberg.com/markets/earnings-calendar/uk
Could someone please answer this question for me? If you are trading and you make a withdrawal on your account to add to another account and your broker tells you that you have to pay thousands of dollars on an ROI before they can release your funds is that true or false.
Sounds like rogue behaviour to me! Who is the broker? Usually questionable unregulated brokers do that trick to stall or avoid payments.
@@ukspreadbetting fx-btrading on the site it says they are regalated
@@ukspreadbetting if they do that does it mean you're being scammed
@@ukspreadbetting so it is possible for them to ask that you pay thousands of dollars before they will release your profits
You are being scammed. They are located offshore - St. Vincent and the Grenadines - insist on the withdrawal and they shouldn't be charging hefty fees for the withdrawal. What is the amount?
Trading is no joke, try a new different thing in your trades and surely you will see a different result. Talking from experience.
What on earth are you talking about? 100% a year is a realistic target? Meanwhile traders go bust 90% of the time. What are you trying to sell here? If you're making 100% per year why the heck are you on youtube with markers and a whiteboard.
Very ambitious and inspiring.
5:37, 6:13. How can you expect people to make these returns when professional traders only get 1-10% ROI (Return On Investment) per month?
For me this was one of my most wanted videos, even when I find it tough to put a stop loss.
Mark what if u have multiple positions than i gather u cut ur position size to 0.5% otherwise ur gone
Jim Halpert?
So basically 100% of the capital used in the market for the year.
I'm happy with a $500 per month average
Thank you bro
Depends on lots of variables:
how often you trade
Type of trader
Market volatility
Risk to reward
Different strategies
Possible expectations per month:
Novice traders: 4%
Intermediate: 4-25%
Expert: 25%+
sounds about right
lol, novice trader = 4%?
So basically a novice trader would turn $10,000 to $1 million in 10 years?
And an intermediate can turn $10,000 to $6.5 billion in 5 years?
and expert can 'easily' turn $10,000 to $6.5 billion in 5 years?
I can tell you've never traded the market for more than a year
Sasha is too extreme, this is much better
Watching your video first time. And I have to say it was very 'airy'...lol😄jk
Fairy land lol
Should have started this video out with “real traders don’t think about how much they can make. They worry about how much they can loose and keeping that number as small as possible.”
I know I personally turn the balances off on my platform and just worry about place and managing each trade to the best of my ability.
Not your fault though. Headlines and videos like that won’t sell eyeballs.
And why do you lie to people..... 10% a month on avg.... Hahahahaha hahah
absolute bullshit, if you are a good experienced trader then on average you would make anywhere between 20-30% pa. Ofcourse you can have a very successful year and go much higher than that but its very unlikely and probably will only happen once in your lifetime.