Shucking a 14TB WD Easystore: Red Label or White Label?
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- Опубликовано: 24 дек 2019
- In this video, I shuck a 14 TB Western Digital (WD) Easystore from its enclosure with the purpose of finding out whether the internal disk is a red label or a white label disk. The actual step-by-step shucking instructions are detailed in another video, so here I give a quick review of the procedure. After removing the disk, I examine the model number and the label, mention the missing center mount, and discuss the possibility of requiring the 3.3V pin fix.
Some viewers have reported that some of the cards are not visible (these are the little "i" icons that appear during the video in the upper-right-hand corner of the screen). Thanks to those who reported it. If you aren't able to see them, here they are:
How to Remove / Shuck the Hard Drive from Western Digital Easystore 8TB Drive
► • How to Remove / Shuck ...
Before You Shuck, Find Out What's Inside Your External Hard Drive
► • Before You Shuck, Find...
How to Fix the 3.3V Pin Issue in White Label Disks Shucked from Western Digital 8TB Easystore Drives
► • How to Fix the 3.3V Pi...
A million thanks to u/placebo-syndrome in the datahoarder subreddit (see link below) for the discovery that this is a rebranded HGST Helium disk. If you notice the R/N number, aka "Regulatory Number," at the 2:20 mark, it is listed as R/N US7SAP140.
Link:
► / bestbuy_wd_easystore_1...
According to u/placebo-syndrome, "'US7SAP140' corresponds to the WD Ultrastar DC HC520 7200-RPM SATA interface drive, HGST model numbers WUH721414ALE6L4 and WUH721414ALE6L1. In other words:
"How to Read Model Numbers: WUH721414ALE6L4 - 14TB SATA 6Gb/s 512e Base (SE) with Legacy Pin 3 config:
W = Western Digital
U = Ultrastar
H = Helium
72 = 7200 RPM
14 = Max capacity (14TB)
14 = Capacity this model (14TB)
A = Generation code
L = 26.1mm z-height
E6 = Interface (512e SATA 6Gb/s)
(52 = 512e SAS 12Gb/s)
** 512e models can be converted to 4Kn format and vice versa
y = Power Disable Pin 3 status(0 = Power Disable Pin 3 support
L = Legacy Pin 3 config - No Power Disable Support)
z = Data Security Mode
1 = SED* : Self-Encryption Drive TCG-Enterprise and Sanitize Crypto Scramble / Erase
4 = Base (SE)* : No Encryption, Sanitize Overwrite only
5 = SED-FIPS: SED w/ certification (SAS only)
"What's interesting about this is that it looks like a 7200-RPM data center drive that's been slowed down to 5400-RPM for stuffing into the Best Buy packaging."
Thanks to jitter skater:
"The 'F' in WD140EMFZ actually reveals that it has 512MB cache, like all WD 14 TB drives have. The smaller models like 12TB or 10TB only have 256MB cache ('A').
"WD140EMFZ = Easystore / Elements 14TB drive
WD140EDFZ = My Book 14TB drive
"The only difference is that the My Book support encryption on the hardware level ("D"= enterprise drive) and has a three years warranty, instead of two years.
These are all basically Western Digital Ultrastar HC530 drives, slowed down to 5400RPM and hence absolutely comparable to WD Red 14TB drives."
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This video is perfectly done. I appreciate the clear information, great audio, great footage, great editing. Couldn’t ask for better!
Many thanks for the positive feedback 👍🙏
Yep no dicking sround. Didn't break anything cut out all the fluff
The "F" in WD140EMFZ actually reveals that it has 512MB cache, like all WD 14 TB drives have. The smaller models like 12TB or 10TB only have 256MB cache ("A").
WD140EMFZ = Easystore / Elements 14TB drive
WD140EDFZ = My Book 14TB drive
The only difference is that the My Book support encryption on the hardware level ("D"= enterprise drive) and has a three years warranty, instead of two years.
These are all basically Western Digital Ultrastar HC530 drives, slowed down to 5400RPM and hence absolutely comparable to WD Red 14TB drives.
Thank you 👍 I think that would be very informative for others. Would you mind if I add your comment to the description, with credit to you?
@@accessrandom No, I don't mind at all. Feel free to.
@@jitterskater Done! Thank you.
I think this might be an over optimistic extrapolation from the regulatory number. www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/edhzsv/bestbuy_wd_easystore_14tb_shucked/fbi5kcp
These are very good drives often available at a great price, but they don't perform quite as well as the RED or RED Pro drives.
These drives arent slowed down to 5400 rpm, they are running at 7200 rpm whatever the SMART Specs tell you...
Excellent video, no mumbo jumbo, you get straight to the point. Perfect.
Thank you 🙏.
Short, informative, and clear video!! This is good stuff
Many thanks 🙏
Nothing but thanks. Please keep uploading videos like this one, data recovery tricks and procedures.
My best regards.
You're welcome - thanks much. I definitely plan to keep going...
@@accessrandom Again, thanks... we all really are going to be waiting for it.
Excellent well paced video. Editing is great, presentation is so well done.
Big fan of concise vids like yours.
Many thanks - I appreciate it.
12 years ago, my company fileserver disk size was 1TB. How time flies.
Indeed - my first hard drive was 20 MB (megabytes)...
I think I spent $300 per 500GB MyBook in the early 2000s. They had the blue activity eye on the front. Being that I had a lack of knowledge I used them to power on boot with PC. They didn’t even make it to two years.
I’ve been in the Seagate camp up until last month. Their quality has been great for me, but their pricing is no longer competitive in this space.
The presence of SMART attribute 22 confirms that it is helium filled.
Great video. Well thought-out and well presented. I appreciate your efforts.
Thanks much 🙏.
Thank you.
Plug the drive into a host, query the SMART data. If it has a helium stat, it's a helium drive
Thanks much for the tip 👍
Thank you. On shucking a hdd with data on it, is the data kept? Or does it require formatting.
Yes, the data is kept if it's an Easystore drive. The controller doesn't have any hardware encryption so you should be able to read it directly as an internal disk.
hi my friend I appreciate the video, I am currenly using a rm850x and was wondering if I need to use a tape to cover 3.3v pin? also any suggestion on a good tape?
Sure thing. When I looked up the compendium, there was one user who had an RM850 and two White labels needed the fix while another two didn't, so unfortunately I can't say for certain (the compendium as well as the recommended Kapton tape is listed in the description of one of my other videos where I show how to apply the tape: ruclips.net/video/9W3-uOl4ruc/видео.html ).
@@accessrandom thanks a lot! keep up what you're doing my friend.
Do you have a video or an opinion on if there are any software tests one should do on the HDD before shucking, formatting and putting it in your NAS? Tests that could detect a HDD isn't healthy and should be returned?
I use HD Sentinel and do a read/write surface test, but many others in the datahoarder sub seem to prefer badblocks (after booting to linux).
I've got a WD140EDGZ, what does it mean?
Thank you so very much
You're welcome, and thank you 👍
Hi, thank you for the video :) what about the warranty ? Does it work, after shucking the disk ? Is it necessary to re mount the disk in the original case or does it work directly ? Thank you !
You're welcome. There are varying experiences on the datahoarder subreddit, but in general their experience has been that placing it back in its original case with no sign of damage results in successful RMAs (with a few exceptions). You may want to search for "easystore return" or "eastystore RMA" in their sub to read what others have done.
ByteMyBits sent just a bare WD drive to them, and they replaced it with no issues. Of course, YMMV.
@@jeffreyaspence Thank you, the difference between two cases management it's amazing...
I recently Purchased 6 of these drives for the purpose of putting into a desktop for a quick capacity upgrade, the non spin 3.3v pin issue did arrise and was able to resolve it same as yourself, but for some reason it only let 1 drive be seen, i was able to get around this issue by plugging the drives into a dedicated sata card, i was hoping you may have some insight into why this is the case
Was it the drive itself that was preventing anything else connected to the controller from being detected? I wonder if you connected it to the dedicated SATA card if the other drives connected to the same card wouldn't be detected? It doesn't seem that the power issue would cause something like this, as that should be completely independent of the data connections.
@@accessrandom yep, basically i tried having 2 14tb connected directly to the motherboard, and either one would show up or none, but when i plugged both into this wee two port sata card they both appeared, it is an older psu i am awaiting a new sata card to pop in and will try it out on a system with a different psu setup, see if i can figure out what it may
Is there a way to update the firmware to allow the drive to spin at 7200 RPM instead of the slower 5400 RPM?
Not that I know of. The consensus is that these are binned drives (i.e. designed to work at 7200 RPM but did not pass QC tests) so theoretically it should be possible (?)
@@accessrandom Thanks for the reply. 5400 RPM with multiple drives is still plenty fast :)
thank u 👍
Thank you, has anything changed recently on these sized drives that anyone is aware of?
Not that I know of - all of the shucked 14 TB Easystores reported on the datahoarder subreddit have been WD140EMFZ.
@@accessrandom Mine was a WD140EDFZ from an Easystore.
Great video except I can't see any of the video links. In the future it would be great if you would include them in the description.
Thank you for letting me know. I thought I placed cards during the video (the "i" icon that appears at the top of the screen) but I will double-check. Thanks again.
@@accessrandom still no link or am i overlooking..
@@OscarRacso It must be on the client side as I'm able to see it in RUclips Studio. Thanks for reporting this - I'll update the description to include the links.
I more interested in knowing the operating temperature of the drive with and without its original enclosure. I have the 10TB model and temperature reaches >50C in about an hour!
That's a good question. I hadn't measured the temperature while in the original enclosure, but in a QNAP my 14 TB runs between 35 - 37 C at idle to around 45 - 47 C during continuous access. This will be highly dependent on the airflow and the ambient temperature (mine is in the basement where it is fairly cool).
whats the difference between the color labels?
The WD Red label is marketed as a NAS drive, while the white label drives are not really sold outside of their externally enclosed drives. It's widely believed that they simply re-labeled them so the Reds couldn't be re-sold as NAS drives.
Why would they use Red in drive enclosures though rather than Blue or Black which are marketed as single use?
I just threw mine into my PC, and there's a slight click. Is this normal? It's a WD140EDFZ
Based on the datahoarder subreddit, it seems to be a common problem. I would try running a SMART test (or even a surface test) on the drive to make sure there's nothing wrong.
Perhaps you shouldn't have thrown it!
@@johnm2012 10\10
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Whats the noise level?
Just from a subjective point of view, I think it's quiet - just as quiet as my other 5 TB Seagates and 8 TB red/white label WDs.
What is of different on İron Wolf? Please help.
The IronWolf is a Seagate disk and would likely be in an Expansion drive. They are CMR disks, just like the larger capacity (>6TB) WDs.
@@accessrandom Which one do you think is better?
I have very important data. Very big size all
Which one would be better for a long time?
I will buy too much. That's why I'm asking.
@@HEKZS I think they are comparable. The most important thing is to have a good backup strategy, no matter which hard drive you decide on.
Just bought 4 of these lol to put in my very first nas. Anyone want to point me in the right direction on how to set up a nas?
Congrats on a great deal - you grabbed them at the right time. I have some videos on my channel about setting up certain things on the QNAP, but I'm afraid I don't have anything specifically on setting one up from scratch.
Lots of tutorials on youtube for FreeNas and Ubuntu Server. FreeNas is pretty darn easy!
I dubbed check on western digital website and turned out this module is CMR.
Thanks. Yeah, anything between 2 and 6 TB will be SMR, the rest being CMR.
Good to know. Thanks for the tip. 👍
Just shucked 8 14TB WD Element drives, all of them are WD140EDFZ.
Awesome 👍 thank you for the data point.
Were they different colour boxes? like blue and orange. I have 2 from Amazon and both have different colour boxes (one is blue and the other is orange).
@@batrarobin all the boxes were the same.
@TRIaXOR
I see that one difference is yours are 7200 rpm drives, but could you elaborate on any other pros/cons vs the WD140EMFZ. Thank you.
@@nutbag They report as 5400 rpm in crystaldisk info, as I understand it the differnce is these drives are Self Encrypting Drives (SED) as for the RPM, my bios is different than the one reported on Reddit, mine are 81.00A81 and not EN02 as stated on the reddit post, hope this helps :)
How do we open these drives 😩
At which point in the video are you having problems? You may want to visit my original video on the subject: ruclips.net/video/7XyUHcaJLLE/видео.html
@@accessrandom im referring to the actual drive not the enclosure......the drive was covered and soldered to the rim with a sheet of tin i was able to open it, sadly, and discovered the drive motor is siezed from a 4 foot drop.
Wait, I thought these were supposed to be 7200 RPM? Best Buy list it as 2 years parts and labor. Run from this.
Mac compatible? No thanks then!
thumbs down for saying vidio is shunting and not actually showing shunting.